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May 25, 2022 7:02 AM
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Note: Before you write "anime has a lot of anti heroes already!!", I'm not talking about anti heroes, I'm talking about villain protagonist so don't start listing Lelouch or Guts

Death note is so successful, I expect more people to use this trope of making the villain the main character but death note is one of the very few shows that managed to play this trope straight. Other anime like Code geass never truly crossed the anti hero line with their protagonist. There are very few series that actually did cross the line, some others are maybe Eren, Yuno, Ainz but they aren't nearly as evil as Light. Other than that, anime is scared of making a protagonist like Light without riddling them with sympathetic qualities.
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May 25, 2022 7:17 AM
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there's alot of anti hero protags like light
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Thats what makes death note unique!
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Kasutoro-Kun said:
there's alot of anti hero protags like light

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Kasutoro-Kun said:
there's alot of anti hero protags like light


Anti hero protagonists but not enough villain protagonists. Light was only an anti hero at the start
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Ikarus101 said:
Kasutoro-Kun said:
there's alot of anti hero protags like light

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May 25, 2022 7:44 AM
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We do, AoT, Moriarty the Patriot, Thorfinn etc. Though the reason we don't see MORE of them is because Japan would rather churn out a schlocky romcom for a quick buck than to bother writing something with actual effort.
May 25, 2022 7:46 AM
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Lelouch and Eren are perfect examples of characters similar to Light.
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Sorry but don't compare Eren Jaeger to Light and Lelouch. Eren might be a well written character for many ppl which is understandable but he ain't a goated MC as the other two,they have a tier of their own.
May 25, 2022 7:54 AM
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If you are in search of an anti-hero, borderline villain protag you might want to read Tomodachi Game.Also if you want to watch anime is currently airing too.It has similar protag like Light.
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May 25, 2022 8:06 AM

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All anti heroes are the same,moriarty,eren,lelouch and everyone else.
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Spoonmaster12 said:
Death note is so successful, I expect more people to use this trope of making the villain the main character but death note is one of the very few shows that managed to play this trope straight. Other anime like Code geass never truly crossed the anti hero line with their protagonist. There are very few series that actually did cross the line, the 2nd closest one I can think of is maybe Yuno. Other than that, anime is scared of making a protagonist like Light without riddling them with sympathetic qualities.

Try Monster if you want to see something similar
May 25, 2022 8:23 AM
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We already have one Yuuichi Katagiri (via: Tomodachi game)

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Kasutoro-Kun said:
Ikarus101 said:

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Ah a man of culture i see
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May 25, 2022 8:34 AM

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I do agree, I would love to see more though I don't expect them to impress me. As for others, Eren exists and he's better.




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All the people here saying Lelouch clearly did not read the title properly. He said villain protagonists, Lelouch is an anti-hero.

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ah . . . assuming this is not bait
you gotta give a bit more info cuz as it is, anything i say will be counter with "that wasn't what i was talking about"

a couple of possible answers:
if you mean the "anti-hero" role then there are tons! code geass, AOT , HXH, claymore, berserk, fate, psyren , tower of god, martial peak and things like it, TBATE, tomodachi game (currently airing btw) and many more. and just to piss you off, fucking sasuke from naruto counts as an anti-hero

if you mean too smart for their own good: almost all romcoms have a "smart" character and you can eventually find the one you're looking for if you dig for long enough. oh and code geass too

if you mean a high school student then . . . i don't even have to give an example you've already thought of one if not one hundred. oh and code geass too

and if you mean a main character that is not a self insert (aka has a personality) then 80's ovas would like to be acquainted with you. oh and code geass too

all in all, light might be one of the best fictional characters of all time, but he isn't unique. oh and did i mention lelouch and light are practically the same character?

also, yuno who? im hoping you didn't mean yuno gasai cuz if thats the case . . . thats a bruh moment if i've ever seen one
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We won't get a lot of villain main characters because Japan isn't interested in villains in then same way the west is. Just look at what happened with MHA villain arc
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Sorry fans, but there's no one as determined as Light. Eren? Pff, yeah right. The fucker chickened out at the end. Lelouch was overrated af. He pulled moves outta his ass like the badass thing in the world or something. You call that "awesome", I call that "Deus-Ex Machina shit".

I don't we'll ever get someone like Light, a POV character who's antagonistic/anarchist to the core.

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kushakashi said:
ah . . . assuming this is not bait
you gotta give a bit more info cuz as it is, anything i say will be counter with "that wasn't what i was talking about"

a couple of possible answers:
if you mean the "anti-hero" role then there are tons! code geass, AOT , HXH, claymore, berserk, fate, psyren , tower of god, martial peak and things like it, tomodachi game (currently airing btw) and many more. and just to piss you off, fucking sasuke from naruto counts as an anti-hero

if you mean too smart for their own good: almost all romcoms have a "smart" character and you can eventually find the one you're looking for if you dig for long enough. oh and code geass too

if you mean a high school student then . . . i don't even have to give an example you've already thought of one if not one hundred

and if you mean a main character that is not a self insert then 80's ovas would like to be acquainted with you

all in all, light might be one of the best fictional characters of all time, but he isn't unique


https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VillainProtagonist

Smh why do you sound so aggressive. I'm not trying to start a fight and this comment sounds like you took my thread as a personal attack or something

No, Light is unique because he is a true villain. Anti heroes are darker and edgier heroes who may be grey but ultimately a hero. Light is unique because he does truly horrific things that crossed the moral horizon. Eren can be considered one too but not the rest you mentioned.
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kushakashi said:
ah . . . assuming this is not bait
you gotta give a bit more info cuz as it is, anything i say will be counter with "that wasn't what i was talking about"

a couple of possible answers:
if you mean the "anti-hero" role then there are tons! code geass, AOT , HXH, claymore, berserk, fate, psyren , tower of god, martial peak and things like it, TBATE, tomodachi game (currently airing btw) and many more. and just to piss you off, fucking sasuke from naruto counts as an anti-hero

if you mean too smart for their own good: almost all romcoms have a "smart" character and you can eventually find the one you're looking for if you dig for long enough. oh and code geass too

if you mean a high school student then . . . i don't even have to give an example you've already thought of one if not one hundred. oh and code geass too

and if you mean a main character that is not a self insert (aka has a personality) then 80's ovas would like to be acquainted with you. oh and code geass too

all in all, light might be one of the best fictional characters of all time, but he isn't unique. oh and did i mention lelouch and light are practically the same character?

also, yuno who? im hoping you didn't mean yuno gasai cuz if thats the case . . . thats a bruh moment if i've ever seen one

I think you like Code Geass 🙃
Lelouch and Light are very far off of sharing the same character/-arc. Light looses his humanity to become a god and Lelouch does it to create a better world, especially for his cared for sis,…

Fun fact: the german va of Lelouch is the same for Mihael Keel
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Spoonmaster12 said:
kushakashi said:
ah . . . assuming this is not bait
you gotta give a bit more info cuz as it is, anything i say will be counter with "that wasn't what i was talking about"

a couple of possible answers:
if you mean the "anti-hero" role then there are tons! code geass, AOT , HXH, claymore, berserk, fate, psyren , tower of god, martial peak and things like it, tomodachi game (currently airing btw) and many more. and just to piss you off, fucking sasuke from naruto counts as an anti-hero

if you mean too smart for their own good: almost all romcoms have a "smart" character and you can eventually find the one you're looking for if you dig for long enough. oh and code geass too

if you mean a high school student then . . . i don't even have to give an example you've already thought of one if not one hundred

and if you mean a main character that is not a self insert then 80's ovas would like to be acquainted with you

all in all, light might be one of the best fictional characters of all time, but he isn't unique


https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VillainProtagonist

No, Light is unique because he is a true villain. Anti heroes are darker and edgier heroes who may be grey but ultimately a hero. Light is unique because he does truly horrific things that crossed the moral horizon. Eren can be considered one but not the rest you mentioned.

right. this just comes down to who means what and uses what word to describe said what.
so before we both lose our sanity trying to decipher the other lets agree to disagree.
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kushakashi said:
Spoonmaster12 said:


https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VillainProtagonist

No, Light is unique because he is a true villain. Anti heroes are darker and edgier heroes who may be grey but ultimately a hero. Light is unique because he does truly horrific things that crossed the moral horizon. Eren can be considered one but not the rest you mentioned.

right. this just comes down to who means what and uses what word to describe said what.
so before we both lose our sanity trying to decipher the other lets agree to disagree.


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And why don't we get many villains like the guy in my signature? A villain that you can sympathize with, is likeable, smart but is also actually evil. That psycho killed an innocent girl without remorse and yet he has a fanbase. In many shows, either the villain is not evil enough, or he is just plain evil and has no likeable qualities.
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Spoonmaster12 said:
Death note is so successful, I expect more people to use this trope of making the villain the main character but death note is one of the very few shows that managed to play this trope straight. Other anime like Code geass never truly crossed the anti hero line with their protagonist. There are very few series that actually did cross the line, the 2nd closest one I can think of is maybe Yuno. Other than that, anime is scared of making a protagonist like Light without riddling them with sympathetic qualities.

There are probably a bunch of Anti Hero's just like Light my guess would be that none of them are able to reach that sweet spot of just good enough that you root for them because the stakes are never that high.Light is killing criminals from around the world for world peace and what not which is clearly a goal much bigger than himself.Your typical Anti Hero is probably trying to keep their village and or streets clean by any means necessary there really isn't any comparison here.
Well those are just my thoughts, also you should watch Talentless Nana I think you'll like it.
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Spoonmaster12 said:
Death note is so successful, I expect more people to use this trope of making the villain the main character but death note is one of the very few shows that managed to play this trope straight. Other anime like Code geass never truly crossed the anti hero line with their protagonist. There are very few series that actually did cross the line, the 2nd closest one I can think of is maybe Yuno. Other than that, anime is scared of making a protagonist like Light without riddling them with sympathetic qualities.

there's a few that are similar you'd might like
the saga of tanya the evil
overlord
tomodachi game
a certain scientific accelerator
classroom of the elite
Hellsing
death parade
Odd taxi
attack on titan
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tomodachi game (manga)

guessing you’re not enjoying the anime then aha
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Spoonmaster12 said:
Death note is so successful, I expect more people to use this trope of making the villain the main character but death note is one of the very few shows that managed to play this trope straight. Other anime like Code geass never truly crossed the anti hero line with their protagonist. There are very few series that actually did cross the line, the 2nd closest one I can think of is maybe Yuno. Other than that, anime is scared of making a protagonist like Light without riddling them with sympathetic qualities.

Try Monster if you want to see something similar

Tenma is a great character but he’s the furthest thing from a villain
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Eren exists

Imo, he is much better than Light and Lelouch in portraying the anti-hero role. He is really well-written and I enjoyed his character more than Yagami and Lelouch.
For me: Eren >>> Light >> Lelouch
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If you are in search of an anti-hero, borderline villain protag you might want to read Tomodachi Game.Also if you want to watch anime is currently airing too.It has similar protag like Light.

shuussshhhh bro it's kinda of spoiler 👀
(he's like a good main protagonist for most of the first half)
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watch code Geass or attack on titan
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Obscurissimus said:
If you are in search of an anti-hero, borderline villain protag you might want to read Tomodachi Game.Also if you want to watch anime is currently airing too.It has similar protag like Light.

yeah the mc gives Light vibes, and the anime is really interesting so far
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We already have one Yuuichi Katagiri (via: Tomodachi game)


Yuuichi is an anti hero, I've read up to the cruise ship arc of the manga so far he isn't really a villain
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We won't get a lot of villain main characters because Japan isn't interested in villains in then same way the west is. Just look at what happened with MHA villain arc


Tbh, I think anime has more villain protagonists than the west. Villain protagonists are rare in every medium
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Because he's not that good of a protagonist?
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Because he's not that good of a protagonist?


I respect your opinion but I disagree a lot
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i think Johann from Monster is similar to Light even if Johann goal is a little more ambigious and complicated
they're both hella smart and have goated personalities
anyway I recommend Monster for anyone who didnt watch it
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Because he's not that good of a protagonist?


I respect your opinion but I disagree a lot


Nah i was messing with my comment, i was waiting for someone angry but you handled it like a gentleman
Even if I do think he's kind of shallow, there are many more people who doesn't, and i respect that
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Spoonmaster12 said:
Death note is so successful, I expect more people to use this trope of making the villain the main character but death note is one of the very few shows that managed to play this trope straight. Other anime like Code geass never truly crossed the anti hero line with their protagonist. There are very few series that actually did cross the line, some others are maybe Eren, Yuno, Ainz but they aren't nearly as evil as Light. Other than that, anime is scared of making a protagonist like Light without riddling them with sympathetic qualities.

what do you mean by that we have lelouch eren anos and more
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because you can't just beat light, the whole series is it's own masterpiece on its own. it don't get any better than that.
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Attack on Titan?.

Not really… yes but it depends on the way you look at it. His cause had plenty of reasoning behind it, and at the end of the day one can argue that he was a hero. Light is completely different, and we don’t really have any other show that caries his trope in their main protag.
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You're wrongly assuming that the series was successful specifically because of Light when there were plenty of other factors that made it successful, such as it being a rather unique story especially for WSJ's standards, the overall plot being edgy and dark, and it having another popular character like L.

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Heaven’s Lost Property great anime

I think you mean to say shit anime but ok.

They meant what they said. Sit tf down lol.

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because its good writing and not everybody can do good writing

thats like asking: why doesn't all anime have godlike plots and plot twists like attack on titan? why can't every time travel story be a masterpiece like steins gate? why can't every shounen be top teir like HxH?

which are valid questions honestly, but people may be beginners to writing or maybe theyre just lazy (ahem fairy tail ahem demon slayer ahem ahem)
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There definitely are more protagonists like Light, you just have to look harder. Here's a few more morally ambiguous to outright evil protagonists:
• Rock - Black Lagoon
• Ichise - Texhnolyze
• Guts - Berserk
• Shinji - Evangelion
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