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Dec 1, 2021 6:14 PM

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i mean searph is also pretty main story important
otherwise lol we just never fight beast 3
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Dec 1, 2021 7:41 PM

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But Seraph is main interlude, right? I don't think Imaginary Scramble is tho. If they just make late Dec event main interlude afterwards there should be no problem
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Dec 1, 2021 7:44 PM

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imaginary scramble will prob be main lude after it gets a rerun kek
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Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Dec 1, 2021 8:23 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/r6l29n/even_if_im_strong_would_you_still_love_me/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
holmes may be betraying us
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Dec 1, 2021 8:42 PM

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Post makes a good point, wth is her 4th asc line lol. Tho ig it could all the same just be referring to the fact that Pt2 Guda is kinda depressed all around, as opposed to predicting the future. I mean, Castoria's lines sure as hell didn't help predict 99% of LB6 lmao.

We've worked together w/ Koyan a few times already, so doing so again would make sense ig. Holmes finally betraying us would be much appreciated lmao. We waited too long for this. More than anything, I just wanna know what his aim is.

Btw do we know who is writing 6.5?

>imaginary scramble will prob be main lude after it gets a rerun kek
Oh yh that's true
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Dec 1, 2021 8:48 PM

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noooo it should've been meuniere who betrayed chaldea and cucked guda
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
Dec 1, 2021 9:09 PM

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tfw remember the theories when ppl thought
konya was beast 5 and holmes is her counterpart cause theres 2 beast 5
kek
good shit
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
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Dec 2, 2021 1:54 AM

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It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Dec 2, 2021 6:25 AM

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Redrop is literally a god.

Omg




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Dec 2, 2021 6:56 AM

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Male Sakura isn't something I needed to see in my lifetime tbh

Cursed
Dec 2, 2021 8:57 AM

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Since when fgo became a otome game?
bruh
Dec 2, 2021 9:40 AM

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mira-pyon said:
Btw do we know who is writing 6.5?


Nope. They might disclose it on stream though.

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Also unrelated but jesus, are they really gonna cram both LB6.5 and the new Christmas event in 2 weeks at the end of the year
Dec 2, 2021 7:35 PM

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Not LB 6.5 tho, Tunguska is an event. If u count LB6.5 that would be 3 things, no?
I'm guessing Christmas next week or smthg and then Koyan event carrying on until New Years. LB6.5 sometime-
Weird tho, bc it very much has the themes of LB6.5, but it's an event w/o 6.5 in the title?

>Male Sakura isn't something I needed to see in my lifetime tbh

Imagine having shit taste.

Kama's interlude was

fucking great

It was shallow,
but the good type of shallow. 10/10 dating sim
Also I can't believe they actually addressed the fact that Kama was supposed to be a dude lmao. Interesting that her idea of relaxation is, returning back to male body and being coddled by girls. Sniffing towel was very Sakura
mira-pyonDec 2, 2021 7:39 PM
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Dec 2, 2021 7:47 PM

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its 100% 6.5
just like
imaginary scramble was 4.5
and ooku was 3.5
its just dw
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Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Dec 2, 2021 8:18 PM

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Yh that's what I mean,
like it's more of a Imaginary Scramble than a Heian-kyo,

which is weird. Cuz it has a dot, but I'm p sure e.g LB3 didn't have a dot after it
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Dec 2, 2021 8:30 PM

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:shrug:
nasu did say we have 2 6.5s so
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Dec 2, 2021 8:50 PM

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He did? Wait when. This feels vaguely familiar but I don't think I ever saw the source

But yh that would make sense
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Dec 2, 2021 8:59 PM

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from this years anni intervieew
was sorta implied but yea
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Dec 5, 2021 8:09 PM

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MnP898EJ5Jd0Mv4xu4F6HiuTvxlb7pLlEYdm2nWiNhk/edit#heading=h.u98miyl8ijx5

tfw 200 pages doc about why holmes is :sus:
fate fags are :kiritea:
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Dec 7, 2021 1:38 AM
Dec 7, 2021 1:39 AM

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does astro like

cause thats what youre getting
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Dec 7, 2021 1:53 AM

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>younger Martha, the same case as Alexander.

So she's Saint Martha Santa Lily? That explains the nerfed boobs.

Also, she's the only new Servant for the event so the gacha will be bait old Servants. Safe guess is Skadi and maybe Benienma too.
Dec 7, 2021 7:09 AM

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Thank you, someone finally mentioned it


like damn that CE
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Dec 14, 2021 4:45 AM

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Imagine wanting Tiamat as playable but she's only in Arcade.

Dec 14, 2021 5:33 AM

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They got tiamat larva...

We need altera larva
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Dec 14, 2021 8:40 AM

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>Tialoli

Bruh wtf

I'm guessing this is gonna be a lolinci situation. So, teased in Dec, released for Anni. Hmm I really wanted Tiamama but I kinda wanna see this larva ver too. I hope we get a multiple-age asc then
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Dec 14, 2021 8:46 AM

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Tialoli is pretty retarded lol.
What if we took an Mother Goddess and made her into a loli. Haha, funny, right? I generally don't like child version of Servants, but this one is the worst. But I'll reserve judgement until we see ascensions in case it's a Kamadeva/Ibuki case.

That said, Arcade continues to be an actual scummy plague with how hard they're trying to get people to play that scam so it doesn't die out due to Corona. I was fine with Tiamat not being a playable character before because I could buy the whole ''but she's a special antagonist that you aren't meant to play durr hurr'' shit before, but now there's no excuse why Mobile doesn't have a playable Tiamat.
Dec 14, 2021 8:56 AM

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They should just port Arcade to PC so they can spread that scumminess outside of Japan.
Dec 14, 2021 8:57 AM

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I mean, onore arcade but I'm just glad we have proof of concept now. She'll probably come to mobile soon. Also I feel like I'm not even surprised anymore lol.

And ofc it's easier to integrate playable Tiamat into an irrelevant game like arcade bc there's nothing to lose lore-wise. On the other hand, you can't just randomly throw an important antagonist like Tiamat into the main game. They're probably trying to time it to some plot point or smthg.
And then tried to kill 2 birds w/ one stone by shilling money for arcade


Edit:

Pfft wait I just realised we still didn't get ProtoMerlin what the fu-

mira-pyonDec 14, 2021 10:04 AM
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Dec 14, 2021 11:27 AM

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mira-pyon said:
And ofc it's easier to integrate playable Tiamat into an irrelevant game like arcade bc there's nothing to lose lore-wise.


Did you miss the entire bit about Arcade being an alternate timeline to Mobile and having actual lore importance because of Mother Harlot?

Also; here's the funny thing... Arcade!Tiamat is *literally* FGO Mobile Tiamat that decided to manifest in Arcade's Babylon to save Humanity out of her motherly instincts and not wanting a different Beast killing the Humanity that already defeated her (in the Mobile version):

Chapter 1 loading screen:
>The city's name is Babylon. A city at the peak of human prosperity, at a level impossible for the 27th Century BC.
>Mash and her Master set foot in a dangerous golden city, where people's karmic values are maxed despite morality values being minned.
>Mash and her Master tried to gather information, but the Babylon soldier asked who they were and immediately wrote them off as foreign substances that weren't supposed to exist.
>The Babylon soldiers attacked. Their power could be considered superhuman.
>But before everything was lost, they were met with a girl they couldn't recognize.

Larva/Tiamat's summon line:
>I'm a mom... No, that's not my name, it's my profession. I am named Tiamat.
>I came here an Alter Ego. Surprised, humanity? Your extinction would have made my loss pointless.
>That's pretty much my reason to help you. I see you're glad, humanity. Good.

NP chant:
>Deploying Nega-Genesis. Resolute children, resist the logic of genesis! Nammu Duranki!

Default profile:
>The Beast of Genesis manifested in larval form because she couldn't stand to see a fellow calamity come from the sea trying to destroy the 2017 humanity who defeated her.
>Tiamat created a split body with the premise of "what if I reset myself and were reborn" and sent it to the Compiled Event that the calamity is creating and luring them to... the Revelation Liner. Therefore, she has clear memories of being defeated by humanity.
>She's always in a bad mood because she remembers the pain and humiliation, but the Divine Spirit has a greater and much more important affection telling her she wants to protect humanity.

Larva/Tiamat's promotional tagline:
>To protect humanity, the daughter of genesis comes from the Imaginary Sea.


So yeah. They had an actual in-lore explanation for how Tiamat could come back and become a playable Servant the entire time. She could've manifested to help you against a different Beast in mobile too.
Dec 14, 2021 12:39 PM

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>Did you miss the entire bit about Arcade being an alternate timeline to Mobile and having actual lore importance because of Mother Harlot?

Lmao it's exactly *because* it's an alternate timeline that I said that. I said what I did knowing everything about her already.
But arcade and main game are genuinely not the same. Arcade can introduce whatever character they want whenever they want because ultimately there isn't as big a need to stay consistent as with the main game/main storyline. The aim is extra cash w/ some new lore to incentivise it, not to necessarily create a deeper, well-rounded story. I mean you said it yourself,

>She could've manifested to help you against a different Beast in mobile too

But we have no current relevant beasts for her to help us with. Whereas Arcade does have that. We aren't gonna suddenly get Mother Harlot showing up in the main game because the development for her isn't there the same way it's in arcade - that's not the current direction the lore is going in, unless they divert it briefly in a collab or event or smthg - so Tiamat couldn't have shown up with the same reasoning as in arcade bc there is no sea calamity rn. But also even if Arcade didn't have Mother Harlot, I could totally still see them getting Tiamat first for the cashbait. I mean, Tiamama would've worked thematically w/ Cern as two loving gods that had their bodies used to create land in a primordial sea, but that would've just made LB6 an even greater clusterfuck
The point of my statement was,
did you really want them to randomly shove Tiamat in between all the unfinished plot lines we had already in the past year or so? Maybe the right phrasing wasn't "lore-wise" but "story-telling-wise"? Timing-wise? Waltz collab was silly, but would Tiamat right before LB6 have been a good idea?

But I mean, ig I could see her being relevant in the Tunguska event, or w/e Koyan hints at in the event epilogue. or in a collab event kek Bc this is the first time in a while that we've actually gotten a beast as a natural part of the story.
mira-pyonDec 14, 2021 1:02 PM
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Dec 14, 2021 1:50 PM

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mira-pyon said:
Lmao it's exactly *because* it's an alternate timeline that I said that.


The point was that Nasu himself considers Arcade part of the FGO continuity, to some degree, so he still considers whether the things he implements are lore-breaking or not.

there isn't as big a need to stay consistent as with the main game/main storyline


He could just pull a Fujino and make Tiamat playable as pure fanservice without making it a part of the canon.

But we have no current relevant beasts for her to help us with.


Koyanskaya.

because the development for her isn't there the same way it's in arcade


It's not like there was any actual lead up to Beast III.
Also, Mother Harlot was outright stated to be active behind the scenes in the new Halloween event. So she *should* be active even in the Mobile timeline, preparing for whatever the fuck. Wouldn't make sense for Mother Harlot to never appear as an antagonist in the mobile version anyway, considering all the hints and build up they've been doing towards her. Also remember that ages old plotline about Arthur hunting a certain Beast.

so Tiamat couldn't have shown up with the same reasoning as in arcade bc there is no sea calamity rn.


It needing a ''sea-based calamity'' is, frankly, just an asinine excuse. The larger take-away is that Tiamat always had the power to just become... a Servant and summon herself to help you if she wanted to. Something that should've been predictable considering that's what Kiara does, too.

Nasu could've made up another excuse than ''sea calamity'' to make her do that. There's already build-up/justification for Tiamat being willing to side with Chaldea out of her motherly instinct/love towards humanity (that's literally the justification Arcade uses anyway). And since we know she was banished to the Imaginary Space, it could've been as simple as Chaldea seeking out her aid against a Beast (Koyanskaya, for example).

did you really want them to randomly shove Tiamat in between all the unfinished plot lines we had already in the past year or so?


Oberon himself came out of basically no where. Most major plotlines introduced in a chapter tend to be resolved within the chapter itself. You already answered your question, but Koyanskaya was a pretty convenient excuse to bring back Tiamat as the necessary firepower to battle a Beast with a Beast. If not Koyanskaya, the Alien God would've worked.

The alternative was what we got now, just re-introducing Tiamat into some shitty spin-off Arcade game and boy do I not like such a major development occuring within the fucking Arcade of all things.
Dec 14, 2021 2:47 PM

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>He could just pull a Fujino and make Tiamat playable as pure fanservice without making it a part of the canon.
Knk side boss vs beast hmmmmm

>Koyanskaya.

**relevant**
I mean, Koyan isn't a sea calamity. But yh I agree it's a ridiculous detail, and any beast would've been a good excuse, which is why I mentioned possibly showing up in/hinted at in Tunguska.


>It's not like there was any actual lead up to Beast III.
But Seraph was a collab(so randomness is understandable) and Ooku connected directly to lb4.


>Also, Mother Harlot was outright stated to be active behind the scenes in the new Halloween event.
Yh, the halloween event that happened pretty much yesterday, compared to arcade camelot which was in the first quarter of the year. This is why I'm talking about chronology, timing, sensible writing etc. You ask "why hasn't Tiamama appeared to help us with a beast", but until the past few months we hadn't gotten to a point where we needed to fight a beast for a while. *Now* we're finally nearing the climax of Koyan's plotline, where Tiamat could appear, or alternatively we now have more recent evidence of Mother Harlot appearing soon, which could also involve Tiamat. But it's understandable that we didn't get her *yet* because the link wasn't there. *Going forward*, I do think we can get her.


>Koyanskaya was a pretty convenient excuse to bring back Tiamat as the necessary firepower to battle a Beast with a Beast
Tbf we *do* have that - Goetia. I mean, maybe he's not supposed to officially join us so soon, but he's more relevant here than Tiamat is because he's already intertwined w/ the LBs.


>Oberon himself came out of basically no where
Yh but at least he's Vortigern. That beats any reason Tiamat has for showing up lol. Alternatively, we would've gotten both Tiamat and Vortigern which would be extra weird. Or Tiamat and Cern instead of having the relevant characters be Arthurian? Still weird wrt how LBs normally play out.
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Dec 15, 2021 7:17 PM

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you thought it was proto gil
but its actually
Nebuchadnezzar II

also tiamat has adult form
astro and AC in shambles
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Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Dec 15, 2021 7:46 PM

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Also, more importantly, BEEG Nemo



Face looks suspiciously familiar but I can't put my finger on it


For Tiamat, I think I like her 2nd asc the most


Looking like she should be Foreigner class or smthg

Also I'm glad it's not ProtoGil, or Nebu's real body. Can't have arcade taking those away from us

Edit:
Hoooly shit christmas event finishes in 23hrs wtf brutal.
mira-pyonDec 15, 2021 8:19 PM
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yea and new event is a raid and starts sat
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Dec 15, 2021 11:09 PM

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Mei-o_Scarlett said:
also tiamat has adult form
astro and AC in shambles


Fuck you mthrfuckr Arcade apologist lookin ass
Dec 16, 2021 1:19 AM

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Gil has never been so relatable...

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Reeeeee they stole our mom
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Dec 16, 2021 3:45 AM

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GG bois


It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Dec 16, 2021 4:01 AM

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Tiamama's 3rd asc voicelines,
so sweet so comforting. Man Nasu sure has oedipus complex



That said,
Tiamat finally released: I sleep
Adult Nemo: real shit
I mean, I dunno I thought I wasn't that excited for her bc she was only in arcade,
but adult Nemo really got the blood boiling so it couldn't have been that-
Ig the existence of adult Nemo design is amazing in of itself, but seeing Tiamat doesn't mean anything if it's not in the context of a story I know in a game where I can actually get her? 🤔

>GG bois

Still need to know

what that server is

Add meeee I wanna see AirCon malding

Also yh I didn't see any Japanese comments mentioning Noah so I took that out of my comment. Guess we gotta wait for 23rd. Man arcade really became significantly more interesting after i called it a throwaway IP huh-
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https://news.fate-go.jp/2021/main_quest_clear_cp4/

>0 AP on Main Quest

They reaaaaally want people to catch up to the main story so badly. Also, Fae Lancelot gacha. I got Percival though.
Dec 17, 2021 2:41 AM

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tempted to np 2 melusine
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
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Dec 17, 2021 8:05 PM

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There is a leak of Mother Harlot around...guess who she is? Pic leak here (dunno how can ARCADE have leaks, LOL):

FGO NA Code: 482.072.599

(F2P thug life of savings...)

Ben-to! best nonsensical action anime. Ever.
Dec 17, 2021 8:29 PM

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mean yea we knew from day 1
mother harlot is nero
literally has the same va as nero and
gets called whore of babylon by gawain
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Dec 17, 2021 9:07 PM

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She is WHO?!?!?!?!11!!!



Dec 17, 2021 9:11 PM

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mean nasu also sat on amaterasu for like 10 yrs and did absolutely nothing with it
instead
koya is gonna become a seperate beast from ama :)

or how nasu sat on primate murder for like 15 years
and ort for another 20 yrs
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Dec 18, 2021 12:22 AM

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>mean yea we knew from day 1

I think Fabris was being sarcastic lol. You can't not say Mother Harlot and Nero in the same breath


Weird to think
Nasu could introduce an idea now
And not flesh it out until 2041 lmao. That's dystopic in its own way
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He's doing that with fgo too

In babylonia he dropped that there was an event that hsppen in 700BC that killed off magic and never explained it at all
Watch that be relevant like 30 yrs ltr
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