Do you think Yoshida and Sayu will start dating or get married anyways?

Apr 20, 2021 8:19 AM

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Samayou_Tamashii said:

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it's not that he has no interest in Sayu, but that it hasn't been shown in the anime yet.

I'm really sorry that I forgot to mention that I'm not a ln or manga reader.

yeah I know that, that's why I use the spoiler button on you XD

Apr 23, 2021 9:01 PM

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brenobluhm said:
She is a couple of months away from being 18, so by the end of the show I do think their relationship will evolve into something romantic.

Why would he? Didnt he say he only views her as a child? Itll be weird if as soon as she turns 18, he now views her in a dating way.

Apr 23, 2021 11:25 PM

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stuntinEverlong said:

brenobluhm said:
She is a couple of months away from being 18, so by the end of the show I do think their relationship will evolve into something romantic.

Why would he? Didnt he say he only views her as a child? Itll be weird if as soon as she turns 18, he now views her in a dating way.

He never saw Sayu as a child anyway. He only helps Sayu to become a normal girl but

actually this anime has romance between adults and high school girl, this is not a wholesome show between father and daughter like Usagi Drop (Just Anime).

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Apr 29, 2021 10:38 AM

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No-one can resist her cooking, Yoshida is doomed no matter how he tries to resist !!

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Apr 30, 2021 12:58 PM

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stuntinEverlong said:

brenobluhm said:
She is a couple of months away from being 18, so by the end of the show I do think their relationship will evolve into something romantic.

Why would he? Didnt he say he only views her as a child? Itll be weird if as soon as she turns 18, he now views her in a dating way.

It should be obvious he's telling her (and himself) that to keep things from crossing a line he feels shouldn't be crossed right now. He admitted she's attractive.

Apr 30, 2021 5:50 PM

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As much as I'd like for their relationship to remain platonic and familial, I think what the narrative is pushing is that it will evolve into a romance judging from some quotes, thoughts and general direction. For example, I dont think Sayu should have been sexualized, talked about her breasts or be flustered around Yoshida and stuff nor would the story have Yoshida consider her smile is 'sexy' and she's really cute and he finds her attractive if this wasn't the case of a romance. Plus, all his coworkers thought he had a girlfriend, which is something that was repeatedly shown. It could have been added to subvert people's expectations, but if it such hints occur multiple times within the story, I think it's going the romantic route.

Apr 30, 2021 6:02 PM

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he will stay with her because she is the protagonist and according to a certain person, the relationship between sayu and yoshida is developing very well.

I personally don't like this because as @Danae said, I was expecting a more father-daughter relationship in which Yoshida helps Sayu to move on in life and have a good future. But this will be another cliche romance story with nothing special except for the beginning.

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Apr 30, 2021 6:32 PM

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Really hope this stays as a sort of guardian-child relationship, and I’ll definitely be disappointed if things don’t stay that way. I don’t get why many people want them to get into a romantic relationship, the age gap would just put me off entirely. I wish the story stays on the path of him staying to the moral side and him continuing to pursue people within his age range.

May 1, 2021 12:27 AM

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Whatever it's just an anime.. I want sayu and yoshida to be together because the story is about them not on gotou..

May 1, 2021 12:37 AM

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I agree with @logsterr romance tag its kinda unfitting on this series. step father raising step daughter who is a runaway is more interesting. Its will add more moral values on this series

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May 1, 2021 1:12 AM

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SunHater-NoRoman said:
I agree with @logsterr romance tag its kinda unfitting on this series. step father raising step daughter who is a runaway is more interesting. Its will add more moral values on this series

Nah, cause since the beginning this anime is a romance anime that takes a set about Adult men and high school girls, it's just that all of you are wrong to define this anime as a wholesome show between father and Daughter. I can't even tell where that thought originated, at best it's considered a brother and sister relationship.

May 1, 2021 5:55 AM

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Snackgamers557 said:

SunHater-NoRoman said:
I agree with @logsterr romance tag its kinda unfitting on this series. step father raising step daughter who is a runaway is more interesting. Its will add more moral values on this series

Nah, cause since the beginning this anime is a romance anime that takes a set about Adult men and high school girls, it's just that all of you are wrong to define this anime as a wholesome show between father and Daughter. I can't even tell where that thought originated, at best it's considered a brother and sister relationship.

Adult men and high school girls romance is pretty common, but step-dad and runaway step-daugher pretty uncommon and the time gap is too big, its almost 10 years gap. the author has chance to raise the issue to this series instead regular romance.
just like Konosuba, overpowered Isekai is too mainstream but not very much comedy Isekai. so Konosuba going to comedy.

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May 1, 2021 7:24 AM

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Snackgamers557 said:

Nah, cause since the beginning this anime is a romance anime that takes a set about Adult men and high school girls, it's just that all of you are wrong to define this anime as a wholesome show between father and Daughter. I can't even tell where that thought originated, at best it's considered a brother and sister relationship.

Adult men and high school girls romance is pretty common, but step-dad and runaway step-daugher pretty uncommon and the time gap is too big, its almost 10 years gap. the author has chance to raise the issue to this series instead regular romance.
just like Konosuba, overpowered Isekai is too mainstream but not very much comedy Isekai. so Konosuba going to comedy.

yeah as I said all of you are wrong to define this anime, also there is no father and daughter who their age gap is only 9 years xD, That's why i told at best their relationship is considered as brother and sister. this is not a wholesome show between father and daughter, I have read LN later you will see some romance between them, and the issue of her run away from home is just the premise of the story to build relationships both of them, also as far as LN, their relationship has developed into a more serious direction since Yoshida confused about his true fellings on Sayu, it's not just a father and daughter or brother and sister relationship. it just the same way like Toradora, the series is making it obvious how the story will unfold. I am only telling the truth what I know because from the start the Author just wanted to make romance anime with the addition of drama. also if you read LN or Manga the story feels more like a Romantic Comedy which sometimes has elements of drama.

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May 1, 2021 8:59 AM

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Snackgamers557 said:
yeah as I said all of you are wrong to define this anime, also there is no father and daughter who their age gap is only 9 years xD, That's why i told at best their relationship is considered as brother and sister. this is not a wholesome show between father and daughter, I have read LN later you will see some romance between them, and the issue of her run away from home is just the premise of the story to build relationships both of them, also as far as LN, their relationship has developed into a more serious direction since Yoshida confused about his true fellings on Sayu, it's not just a father and daughter or brother and sister relationship. it just the same way like Toradora, the series is making it obvious how the story will unfold. I am only telling the truth what I know because from the start the Author just wanted to make romance anime with the addition of drama. also if you read LN or Manga the story feels more like a Romantic Comedy which sometimes has elements of drama.

I'm not talking about the truth. whatever the author writes and I know its supposed be a romance. but in my opinion its gonna better if this story is about Sayu fixing his past with Yoshida as caretaker because we got much of salaryman-High school girl romance. what makes Higehire different is sayu past. I feel such a waste Sayu past isnt a main topic of this series

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May 1, 2021 11:38 AM

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Snackgamers557 said:
yeah as I said all of you are wrong to define this anime, also there is no father and daughter who their age gap is only 9 years xD, That's why i told at best their relationship is considered as brother and sister. this is not a wholesome show between father and daughter, I have read LN later you will see some romance between them, and the issue of her run away from home is just the premise of the story to build relationships both of them, also as far as LN, their relationship has developed into a more serious direction since Yoshida confused about his true fellings on Sayu, it's not just a father and daughter or brother and sister relationship. it just the same way like Toradora, the series is making it obvious how the story will unfold. I am only telling the truth what I know because from the start the Author just wanted to make romance anime with the addition of drama. also if you read LN or Manga the story feels more like a Romantic Comedy which sometimes has elements of drama.

I'm not talking about the truth. whatever the author writes and I know its supposed be a romance. but in my opinion its gonna better if this story is about Sayu fixing his past with Yoshida as caretaker because we got much of salaryman-High school girl romance. what makes Higehire different is sayu past. I feel such a waste Sayu past isnt a main topic of this series

well you should know it's all pointless, because from the start the author really didn't intend to do that. If you really want to see where anime parenting or wholesome relationships between father and daughter, just watch Usagi Drop (only anime), there are lots of wholesome moments between Daikichi and Rin and him literally raising Rin. while Sayu she only stayed for a few months with Yoshida until her brother picked her up to go home.

Regarding Sayu's past, Yoshida did help her become like an ordinary high school girl, but on the other hand Sayu also helped Yoshida escape his loneliness. it's just like I watch most of Kdrama or Dorama. There are many issue topics like this where they fall in love and end up together. I don't know but why I feel that Higehiro is more suitable to be appointed as a Dorama or Movie than an anime, because the anime community is still difficult to accept topics like this especially adding love stories between adult men and High school girls. Dorama lovers are more open about this type of topic.

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May 1, 2021 5:17 PM

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If having sex and falling in love is the same for you, then I can't help you in that regard

*Rolls eyes* The fact I'm made to explain this is quite tiring. No, I don't think they're the same. That was never the point I made for F's sake.

Sayu and Yoshida ending up together should be a taboo by default in this story, otherwise we have an average wish-fulfillment story of a grown-ass man finding a girl on the street and how they fall in love with each other - all this masked as a wholesome guardian story and how Yoshida helps a lost girl find her place in this world. Right now, the story is going a totally different route! It shows a MC who is adamant on staying loyal to his convictions and only serves as a father/brother figure to the girl. If AUTHOR lets Sayu-Yoshi thing to happen anyways, then they basically betray the premise of the story and change a unique setting into an average, cliche rom-crap where father/brother relationship was never a thing and was basically a WASTE OF TIME and a LIE!

If that's the case, MC loses ALL unique qualities he has right now. Of course, he won't be a POS like those guys who took advantage of Sayu, but if he "ends up" (using quotations because in the end author of the story decides the choices of their fictional characters) falling in love with her anyways, than he will be an average nice-male who "couldn't help it" for plot purposes, couldn't stay loyal to own convictions and basically betrayed himself. A weak man who couldn't resist and can't control his emotions. Now before you copy/paste nonsense about "love is not a choice" like that other guy, tell me what prevents siblings and family members from doing incest. BEFORE you lecture me about "but they're not even related", one again remember, the story is founded on MC being a protector of the girl, not her future husband/lover, so to me seeing them as husband/wife would be as disappointing and infuriating as witnessing a brother/sister marriage.

I wouldn't want to waste my time watching...or in this case - reading a shitshow like Usagi drop to be honest. 167 people agree with this; 227 don't.

I totally agree. I think they are more like brother and sister but if they end up together without Sayu spending some time away from Yoshida and learning about life, from other people, not just him, he is not much better than the other guys and all his convictions have been thrown in the trash.

Yoshida is a different guy, depending on who he is with. With Gotou, he is staring at her boobs, asking her what her cup size is and asking her to sleep with him, without knowing anything about her. Is he all of a sudden going to change when Sayu reaches the 'right' age and then be all for sleeping with her? That's just nonsense. Her entire experience is with manipulative guys who used her. Are we supposed to believe that Yoshida, the first 'nice' guy she met, is ok because he waits until she is old enough? Without encouraging her to go and learn about life and standing on her own two feet? We are supposed to believe that it never crossed his mind to do anything like that with her, he just happened to decide to take in a cute 17 year old, what if it had been a 15 year old boy? would he do the same? If they end up together without Sayu spending a significant amount of time away from Yoshida and learning about life, then it isn't much better than grooming. She's learned that Yoshida is better than the other guys but she still doesn't really know anything. It's nonsense and makes the first few episoses a total waste of time.

Jun 29, 2021 11:11 PM

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Rinrinka said:
It has good chance, I mean Yoshida can always wait for Sayu until she is 20s for example if he wants to and nothing wrong with that.

Dude all of you guys are mentioning the age Gap, she's couple of months away from 18... And things like that but you guys need to realize that in Japan or some Asian countries this age gap is not a issue and it's their culture and Japan don't give a crap about you guys and your rules

Jun 30, 2021 6:27 AM

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Reading these replies make me realized how much people in the west still hate people who date younger women.

They always complain and demand Japan to stop doing it. But in reality they're the ones who need to change their way of thinking.

It's 2021. People should be allowed to love each other. They just want to be happy. Stop hating them.

These people will never learn. First they were divided by races, then genders. Always hate each other for being different.

Remind me of Sailor Moon where they had lesbian characters in the 90's, but the American TV censored them. Now they're so proud of themselves as the leaders of LGBT activists, while in fact they're decades behind Japan when it comes to including LGBT characters on TV. After their racial wars, gender wars, next they'll have to learn how to stop hating couples with high age gap. Land of freedom my butt. Owning some loli drawings can send you to prison in some of the western countries. Freedom? Don't make me laugh.

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Jun 30, 2021 8:05 AM

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Western nations are kings of the Thought Police®.

Jun 30, 2021 12:58 PM

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The age difference isn't the only problem. There are also power and maturity differences there, too, which is typically why large age differences and adults having relationships with minors are a problem for people and legally. There are also mental health issues that the story sweeps under the carpet to keep Sayu adorable and not too sad. As soon as Yoshida started seeing Sayu as a potential romantic partner, his principles concerning her asking him to sleep with her and interest in her thinking about her future seemed to vanish.

So what's Sayu's future with Yoshida?

Is she going to keep cooking and cleaning for him in his tiny apartment? Does she have anything else she wants to do with her life? What happened to valuing herself more or thinking about her future? What happened to college as an option?

Sayu basically turned into nothing more than a lonely man's wish fulfillment fantasy, a cute, young, and passive girl dependent on the man who loves to cook and clean for him while he works and wants to have sex with him. No other personalty traits necessary.

Finally, the age difference concern isn't simply a "Western nations" thing. There is a reason why there has been a strong negative reaction to Higehiro in Japan and why the author felt compelled to tweet that what the show depicts is illegal. Letting a minor spend the night like that is considered essentially kidnapping under Japanese law.

Early on, the show acknowledges this, and that's why I had high hopes for it to be more than a teenage girl fetish story. Yoshida feels compelled to behave morally around Sayu because she's a minor. He refuses sex with her and even threatens to kick her out if she keeps asking because she's a minor. Everyone points out that what he's doing is illegal and he could get in trouble for it because she's a minor. He insists he's not sexually attracted to her because she's a child. The story gives us a contrast with how awful other men have been to her because that's how older man/younger woman relationships often really go. What the story ultimately gives us is Yoshida throwing all of that out the window once he starts seeing Sayu as a romantic partner and Sayu behaving in ways that show she never really learned much from being with Yoshida except dependency on him.

Jun 30, 2021 1:30 PM

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All I read in this thread is americans being americans. America, the standard for modern society. Beautiful isn't it.

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