Worst plot hole/inconsistency you've seen? Did it ruin the anime for you?

Apr 16, 2021 10:58 PM

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I was seriously going to rate Code Gayass R2 a 10 until the antagonist—the king—revealed that his goal was to

which was even a 10 year old would find it a dumb idea. And to make the writing worse,

. Such disappointment

Both happened in the same episode btw

Still rated it an 8 because of the ending

Apr 16, 2021 11:10 PM

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LordTuchanka said:

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Eh???? Tell me what makes Re:Zero contrived? I see nothing contrived about Re:Zero. I don’t really understand your taste at all.

Or maybe, I should say, “May I help you, sir?”

One thing is Subaru's obsession to Emilia, and his lack of common sense and awareness when it comes to decision making to at least avoid death when he's supposed to be traumatized appeared very inconsistent to me. I may be wrong but if he was written in a way that he has PTSD, then it doesn't look like PTSD at all, clinically.

About his Obsession with Emilia, its basically presented visually that he is into Silver haired girls by his room decor, and his trial basically shows he is at a very low point mentally before and during the time he got transported. He doesn't show this physically though because... if you watched season 2 you'll know it.

To be brief about Subaru's decision on death stuffs @ S2 basically He decided to rely despite being scared of Dying, in his return by death Just to save Rem.(cause she is Reml. That doesn't work. When the Major conflict of Season 2 happens. Having the feeling of uselessnes on not being able to save Rem, the only thing he can think of to reddem himself to help Emilia, the mansion etc. Is his Return by Death.
But again friends corrected him to rely on his friends, he is not alone. So through the most of S2 part 2 Subura tried his best not to Die, and he got a power up in return.
Like if you really are watching, even if you don't agree with Subaru dying. The show basically shows you why he is doing it. So I really don't see where you are coming from. Also I did not read the webnovel nor LN.

Apr 16, 2021 11:24 PM

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Avicebrons said:

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"Nen responds to the goals, strengths, and desires of individual users. As a result, a student of Nen can increase the overall power of an individual skill by stating a self-imposed restriction that forces even more conditions on it. For example, if one consciously decides something along the lines of "I will only use this skill on Thursdays" or "I will only use this skill against short people" and manages to abide by that rule, that particular skill will become stronger. These restrictions are called "Limitations" and the act of swearing to respect them "Vow" or "Contract"."

Gon didnot really put a restriction . He did not put a rule on himself. he literally lost his nen at cost after attaining greater power. there was not really a limitation set up or nothing like that was ever explained.

There was a restriction he put on himself though? Did you even read/watch it? He sacrificed his Nen and lifeforce just to beat Pitou. In the image I shared, Killua quite literally says that Gon put RESTRICTION on himself.

I mean how can you say this:

Adampk said:
Gon didnot really put a restriction

After I showed you this image from the manga...

You are asking for examples from the manga. Then you straight up disagree with the things the manga brings up...

Like i said even if killua called it as a restriction. But it doesn't appear as one based of explanation given for what restriction are supposed to be...so still a plot hole

What are restriction????
Does what gon did appear as one to u based on the explanation of restriction given in manga

It's not a plothole though. The restriction Gon places on himself is to give up Nen (and his life force) after this one fight. Just as Kurapika's restriction is to not use the chains on anyone other than Phantom Troupe. You seem way too focused on this "restriction" nonsense. When it was objectively true that the author showcased Gon using a contract. It's not a theory. Whether you agree with it or not, Togashi did portray Gon using a contract. Otherwise he wouldn't have had Killua even go as far as to say he did. So no matter how you twist and turn what is and isn't a restriction, that still doesn't change the fact that that is what Gon did.

What is restriction? A form of limitation. Okay, so how did Gon limit himself? He limited himself by giving up his Nen and life force after the fight with Pitou. It's really not that complicated to understand. Look at it from this angle instead, his vow basically says "Against anyone other than Pitou, I will be much less powerful". And Kurapika's vow basically said "Against anyone other than the Phantom Troupes, I will be much less powerful". Of course that's an oversimplification, but that's the general idea behind their respective vows.

I'm not exactly sure what it is you aren't getting. It just seems like you refuse to accept that he made a vow for that scene. But why? It's very obvious to everyone else that watched it. I don't think I've met a single person who was confused about how his powerup worked. And like mentioned earlier, even the author himself reinforces this idea so that there's no speculation to be had.

But its not really stop using nen (aka restriction)- it sacrificed his inborn talant (aka exchange)... so that which it a plot hole.

It cannot be called a restriction unless u restrict something.
I don't know why u cant understand that fact that restriction is not equal to exchange or sacrifice.

Limitation is put by "not using nen" not by giving up nen. How can giving up be called a restriction. Which brings a new question how do someone give up nen???. Definetly non of these are explained, u are just speculating, there is no concrete explanation.

Togashi just tried to cover up a plothole he created (the mention was afterwards, so it was he trying to cover it up). but unfortunately he couldn't cover up at a technical level.

Sigh
You do realize that exchange and restriction are not mutually exclusive?

And no, it wasn't something Togashi "covered up". Because quite literally everyone (except for you I guess) understood it perfectly fine. It might've seemed like a cover up, if it wasn't for the fact that vows had already been established way earlier.

But at this point the discussion has just become redundant. I keep brining up manga examples because you asked for them and you just refuse to accept them for some arbitrarily weird reason. So I'm just gonna end this here and say if you want to think that it's a plothole, feel free to do so. I've given you more than enough to convince you otherwise. So there's really nothing more I can do if you still are under the same belief.

Also why trying to poke plotholes at an unfinished series. Its expected it will have plotholes if it remains unfinished and those said plotholes also will be explained if the series resumes ain't it. If an Arc with Gon as a focus will come it is inevetable that Togashi will discuss more about that topic ain't it.

Its not a plothole though.lol

Apr 17, 2021 12:46 PM

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Wait what is this business with "show me that exact word" (and well other than that exact word)? Lol. And yes, equivalent exchange means exchanging items of equal value, and how you see that equal value depends on how a person values the items. You can make more contract for the amount of power, or grant a greater wish for a greater number of request. That's just the same concept. Especially when your "vague" "discount", "collateral" , and whatever "quest" don't exist this exchange of nen power whatsoever. And you can say that Illumi being the responsible brother and Kikyou being the responsible mother of the household, except Alluka disagrees with you. And you are literally just talking about the same thing again and again. And I already literally explained why i don't agree with you.

I mean U quoted me after 2 days just to say this...lol
Well, I don't agree with u and u don't agree with me lets keep it at that

Sorry I have work, I don't really get on the forums that much these past few days. But yeah, we do agree on one thing, and that's we don't agree with each other's opinion lol.

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Apr 17, 2021 12:48 PM

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Yumerei said:

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Nope, his instructor said that for every condition added there is a chance that the technique would become more powerful, BUT there's also a chance that it would backfire. It's a DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD after all. What did you think?

Yeah, that's the kanji yes. So I was asking about its definition, not translation. So what is it? You said it's not equi-allexplainable exchange so I bet you know its definition, don't just say no, EXPLAIN why not.

Hadn't I provided some screenshots? There's nothing exchanged in Killua's case?? Dude, he's exchanged his whole existence.

U are literally showing the same thing again and again. I already literally explained why i don't agree with u.
(just having a risk doesn't meaning equivalent exchange and killua is just being a responsible brother, it's not a exchange. But i don't think I can make u understand that. since the beginning for u ,probability, strategic anylasis and Combinatorics or equation etc were all equivalent exchange and barter law was a concept of math. I don't thing I can make make a person with such hard generalization belief understand anything)

Equivalent exchange is exchanging things of equal value (It's not something like "hey, u are my bro so give me a discount" or "i am keeping it a collateral without any future payment if everything goes well" or "i completed this quest so i got skill". They are kind of similar thing if we see vaguely but not really same concept if we go in detail)

So either show me "exact word" 等価交換 or equivalent exchange in manga (other than nanika wish panel) or it's pointless to talk anymore

Wait what is this business with "show me that exact word" (and well other than that exact word)? Lol. And yes, equivalent exchange means exchanging items of equal value, and how you see that equal value depends on how a person values the items. You can make more contract for the amount of power, or grant a greater wish for a greater number of request. That's just the same concept. Especially when your "vague" "discount", "collateral" , and whatever "quest" don't exist this exchange of nen power whatsoever. And you can say that Illumi being the responsible brother and Kikyou being the responsible mother of the household, except Alluka disagrees with you. And you are literally just talking about the same thing again and again. And I already literally explained why i don't agree with you.

I mean U quoted me after 2 days just to say this...lol
Well, I don't agree with u and u don't agree with me lets keep it at that

Sorry I have work, I don't really get on the forums that much these past few days. But yeah, we do agree on one thing, and that's we don't agree with each other's opinion lol.

Yeah fine...not like I was asking a reply

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Apr 17, 2021 12:55 PM

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Adampk said:

Yumerei said:

Adampk said:

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Adampk said:

Yumerei said:

Nope, his instructor said that for every condition added there is a chance that the technique would become more powerful, BUT there's also a chance that it would backfire. It's a DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD after all. What did you think?

Yeah, that's the kanji yes. So I was asking about its definition, not translation. So what is it? You said it's not equi-allexplainable exchange so I bet you know its definition, don't just say no, EXPLAIN why not.

Hadn't I provided some screenshots? There's nothing exchanged in Killua's case?? Dude, he's exchanged his whole existence.

U are literally showing the same thing again and again. I already literally explained why i don't agree with u.
(just having a risk doesn't meaning equivalent exchange and killua is just being a responsible brother, it's not a exchange. But i don't think I can make u understand that. since the beginning for u ,probability, strategic anylasis and Combinatorics or equation etc were all equivalent exchange and barter law was a concept of math. I don't thing I can make make a person with such hard generalization belief understand anything)

Equivalent exchange is exchanging things of equal value (It's not something like "hey, u are my bro so give me a discount" or "i am keeping it a collateral without any future payment if everything goes well" or "i completed this quest so i got skill". They are kind of similar thing if we see vaguely but not really same concept if we go in detail)

So either show me "exact word" 等価交換 or equivalent exchange in manga (other than nanika wish panel) or it's pointless to talk anymore

Wait what is this business with "show me that exact word" (and well other than that exact word)? Lol. And yes, equivalent exchange means exchanging items of equal value, and how you see that equal value depends on how a person values the items. You can make more contract for the amount of power, or grant a greater wish for a greater number of request. That's just the same concept. Especially when your "vague" "discount", "collateral" , and whatever "quest" don't exist this exchange of nen power whatsoever. And you can say that Illumi being the responsible brother and Kikyou being the responsible mother of the household, except Alluka disagrees with you. And you are literally just talking about the same thing again and again. And I already literally explained why i don't agree with you.

I mean U quoted me after 2 days just to say this...lol
Well, I don't agree with u and u don't agree with me lets keep it at that

Sorry I have work, I don't really get on the forums that much these past few days. But yeah, we do agree on one thing, and that's we don't agree with each other's opinion lol.

Yeah fine...not like I was asking a reply

That's just what you do on a forum, you quote, or you get quoted, and whatever happens next is history. I just have a habit of replying to whatever that pops up on my notification ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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