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Aug 22, 2020 9:02 PM
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Let's be real here like real real emmilia is like even worse than sakura shes just a bitch who takes subaru for granted and shes really bloody selfish whereas rem only asked for sumaru to save a bit of love for her too and I see how rem did put subaru through pain but understand what burden she carried for most of her life up till now her past only led up through more and more pain butsubaru was there for her and helped her through that burden and when she got through that her true personality completely out shined emmilia how shes loving and caring and not a physcopathic demon who tortured subaru that is why rem is far better than emmilia's blank ass personality could ever be and ever noticed how rem is always by subaru's side and emmilia always puts him down (c'mon be real if emmilia was better why would rem be such a no.1 waifu in the anime community and sold as much merch as she has now those are facts most of the community prefers rem over emmilia)
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Aug 23, 2020 7:21 AM
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AJAXSPRAYWIPE69 said:
Let's be real here like real real emmilia is like even worse than sakura shes just a bitch who takes subaru for granted and shes really bloody selfish whereas rem only asked for sumaru to save a bit of love for her too and I see how rem did put subaru through pain but understand what burden she carried for most of her life up till now her past only led up through more and more pain butsubaru was there for her and helped her through that burden and when she got through that her true personality completely out shined emmilia how shes loving and caring and not a physcopathic demon who tortured subaru that is why rem is far better than emmilia's blank ass personality could ever be and ever noticed how rem is always by subaru's side and emmilia always puts him down (c'mon be real if emmilia was better why would rem be such a no.1 waifu in the anime community and sold as much merch as she has now those are facts most of the community prefers rem over emmilia)


Do you know how dumb you sound...emilia is way better cuz if subaru ran into rem in the alley in the first episode, she wouldn't give a fuck about him so without emilia subaru wouldn't have gotten anywhere in that world he's in and it wouldn't have lead him to where he is now in rem's life which is why subaru loves emilia so much and let's not forget if rem didn't have that tragic backstory she would've been just another plain old maid so if you ask me emilia is way better for subaru also rem is just good for making subaru feel better i guess
Aug 23, 2020 7:29 AM

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Rem all the way. There is no one that can defeat her as a waifu in this anime
Aug 23, 2020 7:33 AM

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Nick-Knight said:
Emilia. Good, pure, kind, waifu, and easily the best girl.
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Emilia. Good, pure, kind, waifu, and easily the best girl.
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Aug 23, 2020 11:11 AM
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Emilia is 100% better.

Rem is so overhyped it's insane.
Aug 23, 2020 11:11 AM

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Rem is the absolute text book definintion of worst girl. I dont understand how anyone can like her, she literally brutally killed the main protagonist a dozen times just because he smelt bad.
Aug 23, 2020 11:22 AM
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Emilia. It's literally the driving force of the show. JK. Beatrice is best girl.
Aug 23, 2020 11:24 AM

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Ram is better than these two
Aug 23, 2020 12:55 PM
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Rem is boring and trash character so I will choose Emilia
Aug 23, 2020 10:44 PM
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Frederica, but if I had to pick one I choose Emilia. And for Subaru I would choose Felix.
Aug 24, 2020 4:12 AM
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I like Rem, but I love Emilia so much
Aug 25, 2020 12:05 AM

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Rem Today, Rem Tomorrow and Rem Forever. Rem is love, Rem is life.
Aug 25, 2020 1:39 AM

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ThousandCuts said:
Let's make war. Rem is 1000x better than Emilia.


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Aug 25, 2020 1:41 AM
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Aug 25, 2020 8:54 PM

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For who I think Subaru should be with or who my favorite girl is?

TBH on both accounts I feel Rem and Emilia are pretty evenly matched and NEITHER is the best one. My favorite girl in the series is Crusch, with Ram as a close second. And I think Subaru pairs best with Reinhard.
Aug 26, 2020 3:59 PM
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I don’t want to hate on Rem, she’s great and all, but the way I see it, her character development has come to a complete end. Her backstory has already been shown, her traumatic past has already been resolved, she found her true love, she got a lot of screen time, she helped Subaru out when he needed it most. And that’s that. Now, she has quite literally been sidelined, but even if she hadn’t been, S1 was the end of the line for her development-wise. To put it bluntly, she’s basic. There’s no question I would love for someone like Rem to be my lover, for her to be there for me when I’m depressed, but she’s a too good to be true character.

Emilia however, I’ve yet to see much from her, even after watching the OVAs. Meaning there’s still more to her that meets the eye. And that excites me. Plus, she’s kind and innocent, despite things happening to her that should make her otherwise. That’s something I value a lot. Also, I’m starting to believe that she’s not the perfect angel I thought she was, or at least wasn’t always. That’s more real to me. And that attracts me.
Aug 26, 2020 5:23 PM

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As a web novel reader, Emilia. Mostly because of her awesome character exploration and development. Not as in 'who's best girl' because that's subjective to someone's tastes, but character wise.
Aug 26, 2020 5:28 PM

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NotReallyAnder said:
As a waifu/partner for Subaru? I can't stand how obsessive Rem is. No love relationship based on that can be good. Emilia is supportive and all while still showing her own motivations, problems, and feelings (other than feelings for Subaru). Emilia feels like a person, while Rem feels like nothing but a really obssesive servant (still kinda adorable tbh, but not because of that).

And as a character? Ever since the Memory Snow OVA I feel that Emilia is stronger as a character, but it's just above Rem's backstory, development, and overall cuteness.

Not an easy question, but i'll go with Emilia in both cases.


You said what I didn't know how to say, thank you. I wholeheartedly agree that Rem's obsessiveness is just really ... unhealthy, to me. It's not too overboard but it's like most of her character is entirely dependent on subaru, whearas Emelia has her own motivations and character.
Sep 19, 2020 4:42 PM
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since this thread got revived, here to reiterate my choice of Otto and Pastrache.
Sep 19, 2020 10:23 PM
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Fact: Rem is irrelevant to this season part 1.

Also, Emilia & Edchina > Rem :D
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Sep 19, 2020 10:25 PM

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Rem or Emilia? neither one of them, the best girl is Otto.
Sep 19, 2020 11:01 PM

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I kinda like Ram more over both of them, but if it's just Emilia and Rem , then Emilia anytime
Sep 20, 2020 5:53 AM

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Rem all the way🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
Sep 21, 2020 8:04 AM
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the harem guy here no hates plz
both Rem and Emilia plz
Sep 21, 2020 8:13 AM
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what if i say i hate them both? cause i do
Sep 21, 2020 8:48 AM
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Emilia fans are potential simp dogs and Remtards are delusional high-level weaboos.
Change my mind.
Sep 21, 2020 8:54 AM

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Lavein said:
Emilia fans are potential simp dogs and Remtards are delusional high-level weaboos.
Change my mind.

Put the accent on "potential". Many of Emilia's hardcore fans already read her evolution part (that will appear in the anime soon aswell, i think as soon as part 2 gets released)....sadly remtards can't say the same thing because...they can't lol.
Im fine with people liking Rem but if they go full mad hoe mode I already hate them and her aswell...sry but that s the truth
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I?
Sep 21, 2020 9:33 AM
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Emillian said:
Lavein said:
Emilia fans are potential simp dogs and Remtards are delusional high-level weaboos.
Change my mind.

Put the accent on "potential". Many of Emilia's hardcore fans already read her evolution part (that will appear in the anime soon aswell, i think as soon as part 2 gets released)....sadly remtards can't say the same thing because...they can't lol.
Im fine with people liking Rem but if they go full mad hoe mode I already hate them and her aswell...sry but that s the truth
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Well, my assumption was morelikely related to psychological perspective. I conclude that people who love Emilia are enjoying to show affection to others. Whereas, people who choose Rem over Emilia are desperate for affection.

It is all about personality. Fighting over it むだだ.
Sep 21, 2020 10:18 AM

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Lavein said:
Emillian said:

Put the accent on "potential". Many of Emilia's hardcore fans already read her evolution part (that will appear in the anime soon aswell, i think as soon as part 2 gets released)....sadly remtards can't say the same thing because...they can't lol.
Im fine with people liking Rem but if they go full mad hoe mode I already hate them and her aswell...sry but that s the truth
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Well, my assumption was morelikely related to psychological perspective. I conclude that people who love Emilia are enjoying to show affection to others. Whereas, people who choose Rem over Emilia are desperate for affection.

It is all about personality. Fighting over it むだだ.

Agreed...and it seems many of them are desperate for affection lol...that's kinda sad but...nothing to do oof
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Sep 21, 2020 10:26 AM

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Emilia ftw. Rem is fine and all, but if you compare the two, Emilia is way more fleshed out (especially in the upcoming episodes). A lot of the other people who agree with me have great arguments too; Lavein put it perfectly.
Sep 21, 2020 11:20 AM
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Yea Emilia is a better dynamic with Subaru because she treats him like a little brother and dotes on him meanwhile Rem treats him very affectionately because she sees him as a hero.

Emilia sees him that way as well but in spite of her low self esteem of herself she doesn't look for other people like Subaru to save her because she wants to be strong too, which is ironic because she chastises Subaru for not showing his weak side enough. Meaning that they are alike and she might see a bit of herself in him.

Rem has low self-esteem and she seems to be codependent. First she latched on to Ram and lived only for her, and then she latched onto Subaru. Anyone who supports her just wants someone to love them irrationally in spite of their flaws, even though Rem is very aware of Subaru's flaws he did save her life in spite of them.

That's a quality that both Emilia and Rem respect about Subaru - he's extremely weak compared to them but brave and resourceful regardless and he's capable of saving them all the same. That's not something you see in their world often, if not at all.

How many people as weak as Subaru are walking around saving people that are infinitely more powerful than them? Literally none.

In regards to that Emilia doesn't want Subaru to push himself too hard because she knows deep down he's weak and he could die. Rem doesn't see it that way because she thinks he's capable of doing anything he puts his mind to as long as he's not being reckless.

Again their parallels are interesting, even in regards to how they mirror Subaru, but I think in the end he won't settle down with either of them anyways so there's no real point in debating this aside from harmless fun.
Sep 21, 2020 11:34 PM

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Rem or Emilia huh? At first i am on the neutral side, because i'm tired of all these never-ending waifu wars, but when i think about it, i don't like maids irl, because most of the maids disturbes my character and diligency development in my real life.

If i view from my seemingly-called "my own real life logic system" and from character wise, i vote for Emillia, but if i view from Subaru's point of view, i'd rather admitt that both Rem and Emillia are the best girl for our MC, Subaru.
Sep 22, 2020 3:13 AM
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I'd take Ram anyday over these two.
Sep 22, 2020 10:47 AM

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Beatrice for me, without a doubt!

Even way back in season 1, I was just pretty neutral towards Emilia or Rem.

Emilia to me at first seemed like a typical goody two shoes princess archetype. To me, it feels like she doesn't really love or even just "like" Subaru, even though she's always kind to him, she was just "kind" to everybody so she doesn't show kindness to him out of love or affection, she just does it either because she's actually good natured at her core or she's doing kindness to offset something dark she's trying to hide, get rid off or trying to make amends to, I don't know what but it's definitely not because she loves him, at least at this point in time.

As for Rem, Rem completely distrusted Subaru initially, she hated his guts, even though Rem acted nice during Subaru's butler training period and Ram acted harshly towards her, she was just faking it and it turns out the Ram was actually that one that somewhat cared for him. Rem killed him multiple times and even tortured him, it was even Ram that stopped Rem from torturing him by just giving him a quick death in the forest. Rem just turned 180 on him since he was so "heroic" or so she says during the Monster Dog scenes. If anything, Ram is nicer than Rem at their core while Rem was just later infatuated with Subaru so we see her being so nice to him, being a "Perfect Waifu" some might say.

For me, while Beatrice never showed much care for Subaru at face value, she was really tsun tsun most of the time, but it turns out that she really does care for him. She even expressed that if Subaru was going to die no matter what then at least he does it where she can't see it because she can't bear seeing him die. BUT I think my primary reason for warming up to her character was because I was so immersed in watching Re:Zero that I really felt the pressure that Subaru feeling during season 1 and whenever Subaru was in the Forbidden Library, Subaru felt relieved there, so I felt it too, whenever Subaru was really getting crushed under pressure, her Library was always there to give him a peaceful place to gather his thoughts, Beatrice was always there to help him out, give him important hints and even remove a curse from him, Beatrice really helped out Subaru a lot even though she makes it appear that she doesn't want to. I was so immersed in the show that whenever Subaru felt the pressure I felt it too and when he gets time to breath and think with Beatrice side at her Library I felt relieved too, which is probably why I become fond of her character and with the events of Season 2, I just loved her character even more. Even during season 1, it felt like Beatrice knew more about Subaru than she lets on and this season just confirmed it. It's like having a burden you can't share with anyone else, that stuff can take it's toll on you and when you get a chance to share your problem to someone, it can lift a great weight off your shoulders even if that person can't do anything about it, just being able to share your problems can make you feel better. For me knowing Beatrice at least had a vague understanding of what Subaru is going through is similar to that feeling, at least there's someone else who knows that isn't an "evil" witch. Which is also why I really loved the scene where Subaru realized that Echidna knows of all his sufferings, he was finally able to vent it with someone else so for Subaru, Echidna's garden became like Beatrice's library for season 2.

As for Echidna, in the few episodes that we've been shown so far, she's shaping up to be a very interesting character for me in such a short time, I especially like non-violent tsunderes like her.

Also, i'd like to talk about Felix for a bit, at first his character seems interesting but during Season 2 I liked him a little less, the words he said after Crusch's lost memories made me realize that he doesn't have such great core principles, sure he just wants to keep Crusch safe but it also showed that he will disregard any oaths, vows and deals he makes as soon as it no longer favors his side and for me, braking a promise isn't something i'm fond of.

But Beatrice is my personal pick, but if the question is who's more suited for Subaru? then it's Emilia in my opinion, even though I don't think they'll end up together. During Season 1, I had this crazy idea that in the end of Re Zero, Emilia will be fully taken over by Satella and the only one who can stop her is Subaru but stopping Satella will mean killing Emilia and once Satella/Emilia is killed then Subaru will lose his Respawn power meaning he will lose Emilia forever, at the time I felt like that would be the show's end, something tragic where Subaru gets to save the World but at the cost of the most precious person to him and this time he can never take it back. But during Season 2 episode 4, another ending popped up in my mind, S2E4 showed a really important message there that extends even to real life people. Even during Season 1 I guessed that Subaru was a shut-in who wasted most his life and that being sent to a new World was his chance to make things right this time, that's how I rationalized his immense determination in this fantasy World to save people and make things right, I assumed that in his head, he was given this second chance and he was not going to waste it again, Season 2 confirmed I was right, which I guess it was pretty obvious to most people that he was a shut-in during Season 1, but in S2E4 (which btw is my favorite episode in the whole show so far) we learned that he has a reason to go back to Earth, he still has unfinished business that he needs to take care of in the REAL World, I think this show is trying to tell a message to people who use anime or any other thing as extreme escapism, to hikkikomoris who withdraw themselves away from the real world and their problems, if this is the message that the author is trying to convey then he will really have to make an ending where Subaru will return to his World to face his problems and fix his life there. IF that's the case then in my perspective there'd only be two endings where either Subaru loses Emilia with a tragic ending or he leaves Emilia to face his problems in his old World.
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After watching most of season 2 part 1, I will say that Emilia has become a slightly better fit for Subaru romantically based on the portrayal of their relationship.

Rem is still the better character however simply for her amazing performance in season 1. Emilia will actually need to do something big to even scrape at Rem's level character wise. I still like Emilia though.

But hey, just my thoughts :)

Sep 22, 2020 2:38 PM

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1. She killed him several times and tortured him. Healing his legs just to crush them again? What kind of a psychopath would do that? If Ram weren't there to swiftly kill Subaru, Rem would have traumatized him beyond repair
2. Now she is just infatuated with Subaru. She just wants to obtain him like a selfish bitch she is.
3. Emilia never hurt Subaru once. Never! Even when Subaru went batshit crazy and tried to drag Emilia out of her own freakin' house while insulting her. In fact, all she wanted to do was understand him. Furthermore, she never abandoned him. Even after they fought, she still asked Crusch, Felix and Rem to take care of him. Emilia cared for Subaru far more than Rem.


THIS.
Finally some of the few human with a working common sense.
Thank you for spittin fax, my fellow Emilia’s self-proclaimed knights.
And also to Ram-with-blue-hair fans that said Emilia is useless, did you guys forget Emilia save our MC, from 3 bandits, even though she didn’t know him yet?
Sep 23, 2020 8:53 AM
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Oh boy waifu war time
Wataru doesn't care about the genuine thing
Sep 23, 2020 9:24 AM
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None cause my boy Subaru deserves someone better though good for him for having Emilia as motivation.

Seriously though, I don't see the appeal of Rem. What did she do for y'all to like her so much? She killed him multiple times, not even giving him a chance to talk, she tortured him till death. After all that shit was over she became nice to him and gave a heartfelt confession. Was it her attitude? Was it her moving confession? If so, then is that it?

To be honest, Emilia did so much more to Subaru than Rem. She gave him food, shelter and other nice things. She fought with him, supporting him. She never once badmouthed or be irritated by him. She's always there for him. Even if she can't do anything, her smile is enough for Subaru to keep moving forward.

And it looks like the same case with Echidna. Don't quote me on this but just because she acted cute and provided Subaru help, doesn't mean she's a good person. She's the Witch of Greed for a reason. It would make more sense if she was praised for being a good villain rather than being moe and shit. For those who did like her for that, that's being shallow.

Just give Subaru some normal girl that will make him happy. You know, like a normal relationship? Petra would be the best candidate if she weren't a kid. Heck, even Ram is good for some lovers' quarrel. Right now, Emilia is to nice and innocent to be in a relationship.
Sep 23, 2020 9:48 AM
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more like, Original choice or Emilia
Sep 23, 2020 11:13 AM
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I choose echidona




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Sep 23, 2020 2:44 PM
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Both are great characters, though I think I like Rem Slightly more. If were talking about best girl it's hands down Rem. Rem never wanted to kill Subaru. As we see in the most recent episode, the one time she does kill him is to put him out of his suffering. The other time she attacked him, she only ever was trying to get an answer out of him. He had just hid on the cliffside with a knife in his hand and had just flashed the camera in her face in an effort to get away,further cementing that he probably is a witch cultist. In the end, Ram was to one who killed him in that loop. What has Emilia done? Ran for royal selection simply so people would stop treating her so poorly even though she knew that she could never run a country. Then she refused to let Subaru take the trial because she thought it would make her unfit to be a ruler. The villager are being held in Sanctuary, waiting to see their families again. The half bloods of Sanctuary have been trapped there their whole life, and most want to leave. The tension and anger between the villagers and half bloods is growing every day. Emilia is selfish, and naive. There is absolutely no way she could compete with Rem. At least, not from what we've seen in the anime.
Sep 23, 2020 3:06 PM
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Emilia. Easily. She is also author favorite character (no surprise there).
On the other hand Rem is extremely annoying. From one extreme to another. Glad she was removed from the story.
Oct 18, 2020 5:09 AM
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After being asleep for 3 seasons and not doing anything , it will be pretty clear who is the most useless character ever.... Also Emilia haters/Rem fans, get ready to burn to ash as Emilia is gonna get a lot of screen time and development in cour-2 and beyond 😁😁
Oct 18, 2020 6:11 AM

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Emilia is way better than Rem. Rem is overrated in my opinion.
Wanna play 8-ball?
Oct 18, 2020 8:33 AM
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8763245 said:
Emilia is way better than Rem. Rem is overrated in my opinion.
8763245 said:
Emilia is way better than Rem. Rem is overrated in my opinion.
True, she is overrated more than hell itself. Also, the characters which are developed early play no part later in the story.. 😂😂😂
Nov 9, 2020 3:21 AM

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emilia said : subaru is not my knight
even she know well who subaru is .....
oh.....
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......fck you bad girls
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Community opinion does'nt affected to me ,,,i just believe what i see with my own eyes!
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full of elites but with no brain
Community opinion does'nt affected to me ,,,i just believe what i see with my own eyes!
Nov 9, 2020 3:34 AM
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sony_censyo said:
emilia said : subaru is not my knight
even he know well who subaru is .....
oh.....
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......fck you bad girls

LMAO, what are you talking about? Just wait for the end of arc-4, you will totally regret saying this.🤣🤣🤣
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Deadly_Stan said:
sony_censyo said:
emilia said : subaru is not my knight
even he know well who subaru is .....
oh.....
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......fck you bad girls

LMAO, what are you talking about? Just wait for the end of arc-4, you will totally regret saying this.🤣🤣🤣
no nothing will change my mind......emilia has a disapointing behavior
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Nov 9, 2020 4:41 AM

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she just crazy about politic.....not thinking subaru has done a lot job for saving her in front her eyes......
rem still better even she ever kill subaru
that not unreasonable because subaru was stranger at the first and have smell of witch.....
what will you done if in your home have stranger with bloody smell? think again
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