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Aug 21, 2017 8:07 PM
#951
The Chronicles of the Train Arrisu said: logic340 said: If we cannot come to a consensus of sorts on a scum lynch in the next two hours I suggest we lynch claimed tpr. A big part of my reasoning is they claim they want to help town but I'm just not seeing that from them. I don't think the current vote count is conducive to catching scum. Too many min voters and to many one vote trains. Willing to lynch: Roz/Phraze/whisper This is definitely where it started. This post created the first idea of the train and while it was not massively compelling it did at least get the wheels rolling. Tonally this is really light and not serious. Yee boi~ Let's lynch Phraze. He's the scummiest smelling scum right now. Arrisu said: So what is your read on Claire right now?If Phraze flips scum then I'll be willing to change my read on Claire, considering she is already on that train. Vote Lynch: Phraze logic340 said: This vote on phraze actually is quite interesting because it suggests it is for the interest in the game. Which means it is a lynch for information or for the excitement. Arrisu said: Well Mishu's vote is RVS and I am kind of neutral on Claire, a Phraze scum flip would go a long way to making me feel better about Claire. I am down if nothing else it will be interesting to see how votes move over the next hour and a half. logic340 said: If we cannot come to a consensus of sorts on a scum lynch in the next two hours I suggest we lynch claimed tpr. A big part of my reasoning is they claim they want to help town but I'm just not seeing that from them. I don't think the current vote count is conducive to catching scum. Too many min voters and to many one vote trains. Willing to lynch: Roz/Phraze/whisper Yee boi~ Let's lynch Phraze. He's the scummiest smelling scum right now. Unvote: Vote: Phraze @Phraze in a world where you and I are both town where should we be lynching at today? aa-dono said: This one is the worst though because it is a sheep vote and aa knows it is a locked vote because she cannot be back to move it.Vote: Phraze I guess I can join. I'm not sure I'll be here for phase change. Even if I do, I'll probably just lurk and observe votes. AbuHumaid said: Abu actually makes a really good point here and notices what I do.aa-dono said: so you're netrual on Phraze but don't mind lynching her? Vote: Phraze I guess I can join. I'm not sure I'll be here for phase change. Even if I do, I'll probably just lurk and observe votes. So then Arri does not want any more votes, which I assume must be because there is enough to cause pressure with 45 minutes on the clock, it is was super lucky that Phraze came back. Then tingle and Mai come in at the end. Honestly, there area many questions about the development of the train and I feel like it formed way to late and it came down to we will lynch you if you do not claim. So personally i don't think that even if Phraze could have claimed fast enough that there was enough time to make a difference that it became locked in well into the fifteenth page. |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:19 PM
#952
logic340 said: @CorruptedPurity your thoughts on the different Role PM background? No townies have come forward to say they also have a red role PM background. What do you make of the Coelestin kill and do you think tingle flipped town or mafia? I was hoping to hear from Claire/Lamb be for posting my thoughts I think Tingle flipped scum and has the ability to show town. From the opening post regarding setup " Knowing things about the players used for the roles can't be use to break the game. " So this means someone as cute as Reiynii can be scum too. Compare your role card to that of Chione or Phraze, look at the bubbles in the background, look at everything about the background, play spot the difference. They are the exact match, pixel for pixel. What this means is that the background for all the town rolecards have been copied and pasted. So if Tingle is town, his rolecard would've showed blue too. I can only further confirm this with a scum flip. Secondly, "Best Trap". We can't use the player flavour to solve the game but we can link the role name flavour to the abilities and hence the alignment. What could it mean? Bomb? If he's the bomb and died, that would make Chione the mafia which although I could see, with a name like killjoy, I doubt Kaitou would be hardworking enough to alter the rolecards just to mess with us. (Someone knowing kaitou meta confirm or deny this please). Second possibility for "Best Trap" is as I said, being able to fool everyone. You guys know what are traps right? Felix from Re:Zero, Ruka for Stein's gate, Saika from Oreigairu. Basically, they are boys that deceptively trick people into thinking they are girls. Reword here and there and they could be mafia that deceptively trick people into they are town. Whether first or second scenario, I'm pretty sure mafia died tonight. First Scenario (more literal trap meaning): Tingle is Mafia bomb, Chione is Vig, boooom. That means no SK, and mafia kill got doc'd Second scenario (more relevant trap meaning): Tingle had the ability to appear town upon death. Third scenario, do you know the actress ability from EM? When she kills someone, she will give them her role and take their role. Like a mafia roleswap but her alignment remains scum. So Tingle may not be reiynii, but the actual reiynii role is still out there and alive with Tingle's role. This is the only scenario with 2 town deaths. Next part, since I'm done with possible mechanics. People who are like "Just cos CP is best town, he can't be trusted, its a bastard game hur dur", do you think Tingle can be trusted just cos Host says he's town? Is it not a bastard game? So I really want to pressure these people who do show any double standard towards me. To bait fish withal. If it will feed nothing else, it will feed my revenge. They hath disgraced me and hindered me half a million, laughed at my losses, mocked at my gains, scorned my nation, thwarted my bargains, cooled my friends, heated mine enemies—and what’s his reason? I am best town. Hath not a best town eyes? Hath not a best town hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? Fed with the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to the same diseases, healed by the same means, warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer as a best trap is? If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? If you vote us, shall we not revenge? tl;dr will pressure lamb and claire. @logic340 redo your VCA, this time, consider Tingles to be mafia and see what you can come up with. Also, I'll just stick to mechanical play here. It's relevant and effective. |
Aug 21, 2017 8:24 PM
#953
Mishukax said: I wouldn't go taking roz of the table so quickly. As stated recently LucianRoy taught me to be a greedy/selfish townie. Zymf came with a very similar claim in TMA mafia and if it wasn't for some information from a town grave robber and Lucian's push for a town only win we may have let zymf (SK) slip by and possibly win. So for now I would like for him to prove himself behaviorally before we consider really giving him a pass and if it comes to CFDing again then claimed TPR is definitely an option for me. Happy late bird day, Suzu o/ Ok, roz1roz claimed Survivor or something similar. Of course, he's a no-lynch from now on. That claim was so ridiculously out of nowhere that I force myself to believe it to some extent. Only the role looks slightly unoriginal in this setup but eh. Mishukax said: Was hoping someone else would come back to this but sure thing. Can you go into details now? Explain the people why I'm town! Mishukax said: While this feels kind of wishy washy was you just presented each option without giving your opinion, it can come from either alignment. The thing is, why would CP go along with it if he's mafia? Because if that's true then there is someone with the CP card ready to "counterclaim" and CP ends up in an awkward position. Unless he didn't realize the announcement could be referring to the role so he jumped on it quickly and now he's forced to go along with it. If he's town it makes sense for him to jump in the thread acting as a confirmed town so we can't really analyze his entrance. Plus, if he's town and he understands that the announcement might not be talking about him, he could still pretend like it's talking about him anyway since he really is town and has no reason to agree or disagree with any theory that the announcement is talking about the role card. Mishukax said: This feels genuine not like an opportunistic jump by mafia. Good catch (?) I actually agree with this. Feels weird for the host to warn the participant that his role could be affected by bastard elements when it obviously can anyway from the game presentation. But perhaps CP's role is an exception and required an additional warning because of its nature. Edit after #357: eh, that's an okay explanation from CP. I'm already tired of looking into the endless possibilities of CP's role, ugh. Mishukax said: Mindmeld I have been telling people this for the last three games with Abu these types of questions are not the way to get a read on him or get his thoughts. I have made mention of it here at least 3 times this game. I think this gave me the most townie vibes. That question is meh as heck. I'd rather you guide someone better with a more precise question instead of asking them about everyone who they haven't given an opinion of. Maybe you could ask Abu what he thinks of CP's read on Arri. Something like that. I'm picking at straws but sorry, I tend to dislike simple questions which scum can take right from their pocket. Not that I can complain if you end up with interesting results from asking that question, but anyway. Mishukax said: Fair points here honestly but with Labs V/LA for the weekend he'll have to wait until this phase for his answers. Something worth watching progress.That's fair enough. I was going to sleep so I wanted to leave on a note of something that had been on my mind but not that worth mentioning, anything that could get Labs in the spotlight he probably deserves to be in. I know how this person plays, I know it's not that weird of a play from him to fake claim scum, I just want more from him, and I do expect more from him will come, but I definitely don't want him to cruise through D1 with now an unexplained vote on me and all. I tend to like players who fluff, but I'd rather put out a warning. Though I do like what he tried to do with the no-claiming stuff concerning who might have the CP rolecard. That said, Labs' playstyle can be interpreted as scummy by most people so it's a slot to be careful about. Like Shinichi, or I don't know, Karote. |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:29 PM
#954
Thoughts on Chi's death. Arri is definetly town, in every possible scenario except maybe 1. But even then, that's a low possibility. Chi was a smart kill, if she was a night kill. I expect scum to be a strong player, looking at suzu, logic, Arri and to a certain extent, aa-dono and lastwhisper. |
Aug 21, 2017 8:29 PM
#955
logic340 said: Ok so first, The Morning After had two tprs, one could win with town, and the other was an even night werewolf, so its still possible that their is another killing role. I think you guys also stated theres a variant of ToS's veteran, which is called the paranoid gun owner. I can look it up but my assumption is that if he activates his ability then he kills people that visit him, so that is also a possibility. I dont think the borders mean anything, but we also can't really confirm this either unless we see a mafia flip with a red border. I'm assuming borders, and flavors were linked from the start, which means Rei-chan being red means nothing, but instead the possbility that he is actually a mafia lies soley in the name of his role, which is called trap, which of course is an indication to his personality also. Probably his role just flips the opposite of what ever his alignment is, but idk like it just seems so obvious, but the bastard could lie in the obviousness of his death flip.Thoughts on two deaths with a claimed TPR? |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:35 PM
#956
Suzune-chan said: This is kind of what I am talking about when I say that people only look at one post. So I vote for information or excitement huh? Post #611 quoted below in the spoiler came before my vote in #654. Please come again with this you are saying. I feel like this has shades of your read while SK in AoTS2 mafia but I don't want to meta you too much. The Chronicles of the Train logic340 said: This vote on phraze actually is quite interesting because it suggests it is for the interest in the game. Which means it is a lynch for information or for the excitement.Arrisu said: logic340 said: If we cannot come to a consensus of sorts on a scum lynch in the next two hours I suggest we lynch claimed tpr. A big part of my reasoning is they claim they want to help town but I'm just not seeing that from them. I don't think the current vote count is conducive to catching scum. Too many min voters and to many one vote trains. Willing to lynch: Roz/Phraze/whisper Yee boi~ Let's lynch Phraze. He's the scummiest smelling scum right now. Unvote: Vote: Phraze @Phraze in a world where you and I are both town where should we be lynching at today? logic340 said: Phraze said: Vote: Mishukax my hat to u old chap lol actually I'm curious what role u got. to be hilarious XD interesting story btw. and CP is guaranteed to give us a headache yey~ 1. RVS pretty by the numbers NAI. Phraze said: @Mishukax Mishukax said: @Phraze do you still like your RVS vote on me or does this gamestate lead you to another line of thinking? @CorruptedPurity CorruptedPurity said: As usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? @lastwhisper31 lastwhisper31 said: Lol, Sorry its gunna take more than a big bold banner saying "CP is best town" to confirm ur alignment in a bastard game. and how are you so sure we will conform to this? @Arrisu Arrisu said: Of course nobody will believe you as of yet. It is a bastard game after all. Though why are you already putting so much focus onto whether we believe you or not? I dont see a train forming against you. Strange. Arrisu said: Regarding her other post. I will be looking into it further but for the moment I have no strong opinion either way. @AbuHumaid AbuHumaid said: @lastwhisper31 you should stop throwing unnecessary shades and stick around even if it's 2much2read Phraze said: what I get from the thread so far is... Last too much omgus. first it was CP, then Claire Arrisu said Claire was suspicious but didn't talk much with Last(who was very suspicious of Claire?). had 'no strong opinion' but agreed. dunno how 2 ppl can come to a conclusion without talking it out Coelestin also seems suspicious for having rvs and switching votes despite not being active(or I missed it) the ppl that always confuse me: Mish/Suzu/Claire/Dono which leaves these townish?: Labs/Logic/Abu/Tingle/Maitai/roz1roz not sure if I have any solid reads on anyone since there's a tpr involved, but I prefer a vote on Last for now Vote: lastwhisper31 Phraze said: Coelestin said: Welp yeah, my own vote reminds me way too much of the Great Terror, cause I did exactly the same there. I've already accomplished what I wanted to accomplish here though, so let's get onto the fun~ Vote: LastWhisper31 What do you think about Claire now, logic? @Tingle why aren't you voting yet? Phraze said: @Coelestin I see lol I will be eaten alive in this game correction: I can never read u xD RIP my last like 20 posts What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. Last bounced accusations around without a solid basis. simply cuz Logic suspected him he also started 'suspecting' Logic back 1. NAI post about already being at page 9. 2. I kind of like this post, doesn't feel like she's just trying to look busy but I can't really give this town points. 3. This post confuses me which is typical Phraze. I had to read it multiple times as the only OMGUS I felt coming from last was towards my slot. While I agree with the conclusions without talking part he rest of it seems to be a bit off base. Her confused and townish list need going through but at least she shared her thoughts on her own without people having to chase her down for them. 4. NAI post realizing that Coelestin is Chione 5. Seems that she believes Coelestin is playing too cleanly. An argument I have used as scum and something I have seen scum do in an effort to look townie so it's kind of NAI for now but worth noting for later. Phraze said: logic340 said: What I know about lastwhisper is he is in his 6th game I believe. They were Psychopass, Kiznaiver, Robot, The Morning After, AoT (ongoing) I may have missed one. He has rolled mafia 4 out of those 5 previous games. So if he is town here he hasn't been town much and doesn't have much experience. That being said it's very reminiscent of his scum game so I am very comfortable voting and pressuring here to sort him out. Phraze said: @logic340 You were both mafia in that game don't play around and act like you had to read her there. What is your read on Coelestin so far? If you have trouble reading her you should work on sorting that out. my read on her is either scum or tpr, since she's too town for comfort. besides whatever I wrote in that post What do you find suspicious specifically? Is there a post you can link to help me understand where you are coming from? Phraze said: Coelestin said: Phraze said: @Coelestin I see lol I will be eaten alive in this game correction: I can never read u xD RIP my last like 20 posts I can't tell if ur tpr or scum, but it looks too towny for comfort. or if ur towny and won't be lynched, u have some guarantee to survive a nightkill?What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. Last bounced accusations around without a solid basis. simply cuz Logic suspected him he also started 'suspecting' Logic back ...häh? Why should I care about that? Can you point out some posts where he did that? not sure I wanna dig up the links from 10 pages, since my internet's a pain, but the posts where he switched targets, and votes, should be proof enough (too aggressive imo) Phraze said: logic340 said: Phraze said: I guess I will just start keeping my thoughts to myself and let you guess at why I do the things that I do.logic340 said: meta sure takes the fun out of the guessing pfft I refuse to look at meta~What I know about lastwhisper is he is in his 6th game I believe. They were Psychopass, Kiznaiver, Robot, The Morning After, AoT (ongoing) I may have missed one. He has rolled mafia 4 out of those 5 previous games. So if he is town here he hasn't been town much and doesn't have much experience. That being said it's very reminiscent of his scum game so I am very comfortable voting and pressuring here to sort him out. Phraze said: lastwhisper31 said: Being low key roasted, all day, while at work. I'm just playing how I play, if I'm giving off scum vibes then there isn't much I can say. Seems tho that in the 4 hours I've been at work, still got 3 more, all I see is posts focused on me. #Feelsbad @Logic340 to be all honest, idk what game ur reading that helped u come to conclusion that this is another one of my scum games, I'm sorry but ur diving to deep into meta, cause I ain't scum this game. I'll post again later, I just wanted to make this post while on break. Phraze said: @Suzune-chan didn't notice it was ur bday. happy birthday <3 @logic340 @Phraze gotta look over what you've posted recently. Out of nei into neutral. @Phraze and @Coelestin check the spoiler below I think this it's the posts in question. @_Claire_ You did not outline why youre voting Last instead youre jumping on opportunity. Is that what im seeing atm? I didn't outline but I can refer for u to read. or rather, just read through the whole 10 pages and try to feel the whole direction Last has been steering. there's advantages in backreading(or catching up in my case). Last is acting too carefree for town, that means he has protection of some sort, which would mean he's scum or town with some bastard powers as for reference: he hammered on CP for a long while, what he wrote when voting u(Claire) and Logic posted the one about him at #460 @Arrisu Arrisu said: As of now, I feel like Chi is playing her town game. I like the way she's thinking. It feels genuine. 1. I can respect her not wanting to let meta influence her reads but she needs to get an understanding of where people are coming from which is what my post was trying to accomplish. Also she overlooks the fact that I said he could be town with little exp but not sure if that is all that alignment indicative. 2. This feels like a bit of a contradiction to the post above it. Doesn't want whisper's meta but tried to collect Coelstin meta when they were scum together? @Phraze why so against meta here when you were collecting meta for yourself previously? 3. Not sure how I feel about this one. I don't think that a great reason for a vote switch is necessary at that stage of the game. I make moves around that stage often forcing ties and moving new people into the lead slot all the time, so I can say from my own exp that it isn't scum indicative. Phraze I think is forcing this one but will keep an eye on it. 4. To lazy to substantiate her claim? Not sure that is a scum mindset as they are usually gung ho about getting people on board with their ideas if they are ballsy enough to put them out there like that. 5. I really like this one feels like she is trying to actually understand him rather than just label him one way or the other. 6. I like how she lays out her thoughts in regards to whisper here, but not sure if that is a nod for town. If whisper is struggling new town then he is giving mafia an easy target imo. As for Phraze this doesn't feel all that opportunistic to me. Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 Did I really do that much omgus towards CP and Claire? I can see that coming in an arguement if your refering to me and Logic? All I did was RVS Claire, and I told her I was gunna do it. So you already read the 9 pages, and came to the consensus that my omgus posts mean I'm scum? Can you explain to me my what you mean by bounced accusations, Im trying to poke people, and honestly Logic suspects me every game so its nothing new, but I can say I was a little heated last night and jumped the boat on that vote. @Phraze, so exactly why are you voting me, again? Phraze said: slight correction: Last only targeted Claire and not vote her somewhere midgame. thought it was both >.> Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 lastwhisper31 said: [spoiler="Most of Lamb's Posts"] Labs said: Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... Labs said: Mishukax said: CorruptedPurity said: Tfw there is a literal banner in large, bold words from the host giving me innocent child status and no one believes me... Some of us have a sad past with confirmed townies in bastard games. Some of us have bastard experience. Some of us are mafia trying do negate a townfirm in case it'd turn out useful. Chances are even some of us are the three of those. Dunno what Labs has in mind but I'm gonna listen to him. Are you still against someone claiming if he's getting lynched hard? Of-course I am.... why would someone be getting lynched in the first place, why wouldn't they just give us a decent reason not to eventually. Also it's a bastard Role-madness game, errbody guna have a role or more mixed into it, everyone's guna be just as useful in one way or another, so I wont really care unless it's some super dunk a nigg modded doctor.... and if that's the case they'd be fuhkked for claiming. I'd prefer someone who knows how to play the game for what it is instead. Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: You don't know who is said role anyways..... right?Labs said: Thanks for the tip, probably wont NK him then... :PCorruptedPurity said: Labs said: Actually got me thinking. I think there would be some people who would be cheeky and vote their flavour role... Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... If labs is CP I want him lynched, I don't trust that lil shit. On a more serious tone, I'd actually look at this RVS a bit more carefully than usual as it may be useful when people start claiming later on. Unless everyone's TPR, I doubt there's room for being a dumb ass like that ^^ As for a CP role, best.... possibly wurst case scenario I can see them holding a N1 death trigger of sorts for the lols. Conversion, bomb, some kind of target for TPR or just a benefit for anyone that hits them N1. Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: I can work with that then, would you NK yourself?Labs said: Nope, I only know my rolelastwhisper31 said: You don't know who is said role anyways..... right?Labs said: Thanks for the tip, probably wont NK him then... :PCorruptedPurity said: Labs said: Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... Actually got me thinking. I think there would be some people who would be cheeky and vote their flavour role... If labs is CP I want him lynched, I don't trust that lil shit. On a more serious tone, I'd actually look at this RVS a bit more carefully than usual as it may be useful when people start claiming later on. Unless everyone's TPR, I doubt there's room for being a dumb ass like that ^^ As for a CP role, best.... possibly wurst case scenario I can see them holding a N1 death trigger of sorts for the lols. Conversion, bomb, some kind of target for TPR or just a benefit for anyone that hits them N1. Labs said: AbuHumaid said: Me 3lastwhisper31 said: Okay. I'm mafiaAbuHumaid said: Welcome, say something scummy so I can vote you please.oh it's going down already Labs said: AbuHumaid said: Me 3lastwhisper31 said: Okay. I'm mafiaAbuHumaid said: Welcome, say something scummy so I can vote you please.oh it's going down already Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: Let's just take our conversation to the mafia club instead :SIts funny how drastically the tone of this game changes, once Logic hops in. Logic got us guys, Me, Lamby, and Abu for scum team. Im going to sleep... Labs said: Mishukax said: Well... I get your point I guess, but you might not have to.... not for longGonna head out soon too, but for good measure: I'm not gonna tolerate a game full of "I'm scum" from Lamb. Not that I don't expect him to eventually step it up since I know he's good, but I want to mention this at least. And I suppose this concerns Abu and whisper as well. I understand the will to joke around, but claiming you're scum no matter the intent or context can get pretty confusing for town and people might end up reading you solely on the wine that such statements are creating. So yeah, I don't really care for those posts, just don't abuse them. Tingle and roz1roz are new players for me, I'm looking forward to them. Coelestin is... Chione, I believe? If so, heck yes. Good night to all. Vote: Mishu Labs said: Yeeaahhhh dis bold seems on point tbh.Tingle said: would host actually do that? It feels kinda unlikely to me.I am glad you asked this cause I was contemplating alot about revealing my second ability or not. My Passive is "Best Town" - It does as what Ruu posted at the start of the thread. Host did warn me that people may not believe me because it was a bastard game though. Seems like his warning is true. I have another passive which can turn into an active under a set of conditions. What it is, what it can be and what the conditions are will be secret for now. I don't see the host sticking their nose in the game like that...... I'd bet more on backwards meta fuhkking the roster, as per the repeat of not tagging said player with the whole best town insert. Edit: I cut the quote up wrong here.... wooops Labs said: _Claire_ said: PS: as the phase change is always at 6 AM my time, it is next to impossible for me to be in any phase change at all. Cheers, I'll know to snipe you then <3 of all ppl why him.... vvv Phraze said: u created a lot of confusion with ur readings and accusations, which is beneficial to mafia and not town Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 I get an idea of how u play now anddd like ur approach to ur predicament changing votes Vote: Arrisu Arrisu and Chi team sounds cool atm pls just not Dono cuz I'm bad at dealing with emotional appeal Phraze said: @aa-donomind a little chat? <3 what u think of things so far? Phraze said: logic340 said: @lastwhisper31 lets focus our attention elsewhere because this is getting us no where. Just leave your vote on me and talk with someone else for a while please. Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 hi~ I said somewhere earlier that Arrisu is my next suspect if ur to be given the benefit of doubt. pretty sure I mentioned her in the same post @aa-donoI totally agree about Mish. he goes off radar too easily >.> can't read him to save my life Arrisu is suspicious for 2nding doubts and not having solid opinions. doesn't look like she has contributed to the hunt so far, only comment 1. I like and agree with her reasoning on whisper I really like the first part of the post but that doesn't mean it comes from town. The last part I really like and for town as she feels like she is actually trying to understand him rather than just target him for a lynch. 2. NAI post? Corrects something she got wrong about whisper would scum do this? 3. While I like this question it's pretty NAI and she could have gone a little deeper, this is kind of a barebones question. 4. Not sure what she means here would have liked to see more of her thought process in moving this vote as she felt like she had a bit of a scum read on whisper. She had stated her opinion on Arrisu a little earlier but I feel like this this slightly contradicts what she said about Coelestin on Page 10 about voting without strong/good reasons. Seem hypocritical of her. 5. Very barebones question to dono. 6. NAI as I am not sure what she is getting at here nor do I think it really matters. 7. This read on Arrisu feels a bit weird. Arri hasn't left the deepest impression on me but I wouldn't class what she has done as not having a solid opinion or lacking contribution. I can actually think of about 5 or 6 players in this game who would have less contribution or solid opinions at this stage and Phraze happens to be one of them. Overall I think I am neutral leaning scum on Phraze right now but knowing I have a hard time reading and understanding her mindset I wouldn't be surprised if this read is off. I would be willing to vote for her though as she needs to show more. |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:41 PM
#957
CorruptedPurity said: um....I already did in post #880tl;dr will pressure lamb and claire. @logic340 redo your VCA, this time, consider Tingles to be mafia and see what you can come up with. Also, I'll just stick to mechanical play here. It's relevant and effective. |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:42 PM
#958
CorruptedPurity said: I feel like we should talk about that maybe 1 scenario, and why you think hes def town?Thoughts on Chi's death. Arri is definetly town, in every possible scenario except maybe 1. But even then, that's a low possibility. Chi was a smart kill, if she was a night kill. I expect scum to be a strong player, looking at suzu, logic, Arri and to a certain extent, aa-dono and lastwhisper. |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:44 PM
#959
lastwhisper31 said: Yeah, the vote on Mishu was a failure since he didn't come back to the thread.aa-dono said: Arrisu said: @aa-dono @Labs @Tingle @Abuhumaid @Suzune-chan How bout lynching Phraze guys? What's your opinion on that? Do you have any better options? My vote on Mishu is pressure. I don't read phraze as either town or scum, so I don't have any objection to the lynch. So unless the vote is on someone I have townlean on, I won't object. Yet you moved anyways, I got my eyes on you... and What pressure, you had your vote for a while, but didnt seem to make much of a case on it, unless I'm mistaken. If ur intent was to make pressure on a possible scum, then you could have gone at it in a stronger way, rather then allowing this train on Phraze to increase. So you only defend your town leads, and attack scum leads, and your totally ok with one of your nai reads being lynched because you don't care enough to find reason to possibly scum read them or town read them? This just seems scummy to me, and while reading at work, this just through me for a "what???" loop Yeah I moved anyway. There's a thing called unity. Though well, you can also call it sheep. I was occupied, someone ask me to join a train on someone who is online, and Arri always pressures until she stops. So yeah, I followed. Yeah, I defend thoughts I think made sense, or my townleans. Sometimes I don't attack my scumreads. Depending on mood, I can play passive observer and active uh something. Hnn, while it's true I don't mind my neutral read being lynched, the reasons you assumed is not the case. What makes you think I don't care? |
Aug 21, 2017 8:48 PM
#960
logic340 said: I understand where your coming from, but that excessive push just feels scummy to me, and I don't know her meta, and I'd rather not take the words of others and instead form my own opinion. and if you look at this, I can understand her not having any interactions with Phraze and Maitai because they weren't active at the same time. But Whisper and Claire? I'm pretty sure Tingle was around when both these players were present., she did clearly state time of activity, which is why I made my statement. I want to pressure her tbh, and I do want to work with you, starting day 2, and I cant tell you why Tingle's never interacted with me. Either way I want to focus on Dono, and Claire, as well as Arrisu, I honestly wanted to poke Tingles, but you know how that went.lastwhisper31 said: This is just her interactions going out from her slot to other players and not the other way around. She didn't interact with you but Idk if it was the other way around. Also you don't have to be online together to interact with one another. You were a hot topic and while she touched on me and you a bit she did not actually ask you any questions or anything. Again I want to work with you today so please don't view everything like an attack, we are just working through the information. Arrisu said: @Logic340 - What do you think are the odds of her not having any interactions with her scum buddies? I can understand her not having any interactions with Phraze and Maitai because they weren't active at the same time. But Whisper and Claire? I'm pretty sure Tingle was around when both these players were present. |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:48 PM
#961
lastwhisper31 said: The bolded is not true actually. As of right now not one townie has come forward to confirm that townie role pm's have a red background. Would you like to be the first?Ok so first, The Morning After had two tprs, one could win with town, and the other was an even night werewolf, so its still possible that their is another killing role. I think you guys also stated theres a variant of ToS's veteran, which is called the paranoid gun owner. I can look it up but my assumption is that if he activates his ability then he kills people that visit him, so that is also a possibility. I dont think the borders mean anything, but we also can't really confirm this either unless we see a mafia flip with a red border. I'm assuming borders, and flavors were linked from the start, which means Rei-chan being red means nothing, but instead the possbility that he is actually a mafia lies soley in the name of his role, which is called trap, which of course is an indication to his personality also. Probably his role just flips the opposite of what ever his alignment is, but idk like it just seems so obvious, but the bastard could lie in the obviousness of his death flip. So in theory we could all reveal what the background of our Role PM picture is to see if Tingle and some other townies have a Red background. But as it stands right now the way people have reacted to this it seems that town got backgrounds like Grapefruit and Phraze. roz the claimed TPR says his is different then the two we have seen already. Tingle's stands out as something different maybe they were a townie who flips scum? I haven't seen anyone propose that possibility. |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:49 PM
#962
logic340 said: Why were you surprised I took her side?aa-dono said: After re-reading this quote chain I am really surprised that you took Clarie's side of this and even went as far as to bring up deflecting from a direct question with everything else that we got out of Abu during this interaction with Clare. I feel like people look at one post too often instead of what lead to the post they are thinking about. I also feel like if you want Abu to answer something asking barebones questions like who should we look into is the wrong way to go about it. Even worse since I caught flack for saying we should look into Abu/last/Labs for their scum claims and got a ton of backlash for it. logic340 said: aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. Edit: Why was whoever Abu decided to say better then the options I chose without being asked? And I'm sorry logic, but I don't really understand everything after the taking Claire's side so I'm not sure how to answer you. |
Aug 21, 2017 8:51 PM
#963
Arrisu said: I still dont see eye to eye with how you play, and I don't like how your defense towards your actions is self-meta.lastwhisper31 said: What is everyone talking about? Something about border colors? Did the the host mess up the phase change death flip again? I'm so lost If you're active, mind bothering to explain your vote? |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:52 PM
#964
lastwhisper31 said: Fair enough on the "same time present" part. Go ahead and pressure her but what if you find you two were online at the same time? As I have backread I don't see anything from you going Tingle's way btw. so it seems to be a truthful observation that you are taking such offense too. Everything that happens or is said is not an attack on you again we are going over the information to see where it leads us. Please help us instead of fighting us all the time. logic340 said: I understand where your coming from, but that excessive push just feels scummy to me, and I don't know her meta, and I'd rather not take the words of others and instead form my own opinion. and if you look at this, I can understand her not having any interactions with Phraze and Maitai because they weren't active at the same time. But Whisper and Claire? I'm pretty sure Tingle was around when both these players were present., she did clearly state time of activity, which is why I made my statement. I want to pressure her tbh, and I do want to work with you, starting day 2, and I cant tell you why Tingle's never interacted with me. Either way I want to focus on Dono, and Claire, as well as Arrisu, I honestly wanted to poke Tingles, but you know how that went.lastwhisper31 said: Arrisu said: show me times when we were both online? If I didn't interact with her then I saw no need to.@Logic340 - What do you think are the odds of her not having any interactions with her scum buddies? I can understand her not having any interactions with Phraze and Maitai because they weren't active at the same time. But Whisper and Claire? I'm pretty sure Tingle was around when both these players were present. |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:56 PM
#965
aa-dono said: Because you went at Abu about one question out of the whole conversation. He stated who he thought we should be looking into it was Claire. She asked again what was he supposed to say. Please read the quote chain and see if you can see where I am coming from here. logic340 said: Why were you surprised I took her side?aa-dono said: logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. Edit: Why was whoever Abu decided to say better then the options I chose without being asked? And I'm sorry logic, but I don't really understand everything after the taking Claire's side so I'm not sure how to answer you. So I feel like you looked at the fact that Abu didn't answer her question but her question has already been answered as he is pushing his suspicions on her and saying that she is scummy for her push on CP. Claire's question is just a place filler and since you picked up on it made Abu look bad to you though the answer was clear LOOK INTO CLAIRE. I hope this makes more sense to you. I wish people would read the post that lead up to the post they are talking about. There is more to a response then the post itself as it is generally one small part of a larger interaction. |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:58 PM
#966
logic340 said: My border is blue also, I was just putting out possibilities, cause the whole red border, with the blue town flip, so kinda makes it feel weird.lastwhisper31 said: The bolded is not true actually. As of right now not one townie has come forward to confirm that townie role pm's have a red background. Would you like to be the first?logic340 said: Thoughts on two deaths with a claimed TPR? So in theory we could all reveal what the background of our Role PM picture is to see if Tingle and some other townies have a Red background. But as it stands right now the way people have reacted to this it seems that town got backgrounds like Grapefruit and Phraze. roz the claimed TPR says his is different then the two we have seen already. Tingle's stands out as something different maybe they were a townie who flips scum? I haven't seen anyone propose that possibility. |
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Aug 21, 2017 8:58 PM
#967
logic340 said: I don't answer all questions too. Sometimes on purpose, sometimes I missed it, sometimes just testing.aa-dono said: If I had a nickel for every time a question I asked went unanswered I'd be a wealthy man. How is that indicative of anything when I have town and scum doing it me all the time? If examples are needed there are plenty I can pull from this game alone and not to be rude but if we are going with that reasoning then I would expect you to already be on top of it? Meaning who else hasn't been answering questions directed at them?logic340 said: aa-dono said: LMMFAO are you for real? go find me a time where abu ever gave an answer on who we should be looking into....I will wait for this one. This is a frequent question that he is asked btw.logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. But everyone else is allowed to read into what I do since choosing to answer is also a behaviour. Congrats, you got Abu meta. We don't. So really, why are you so against people going at him? Abu seems to be doing fine, don't baby him. At least that's the impression I get from games where you're there with him. Back to game, Claire asked him who he'd suggest Claire look into since he was against the whole CP idea. Up till that +1 he ignored the question. And he hasn't been giving any of his own reads. Why do you think we should've let it go? |
Aug 21, 2017 9:01 PM
#968
lastwhisper31 said: Well it could be a clue as I stated earlier somewhere in the 800's. I didn't even notice it so it could actually mean something or it may mean nothing but something is off here and if not one townie is going to say they also have a red background then the conclusion is pretty clear imo. logic340 said: My border is blue also, I was just putting out possibilities, cause the whole red border, with the blue town flip, so kinda makes it feel weird.lastwhisper31 said: logic340 said: Ok so first, The Morning After had two tprs, one could win with town, and the other was an even night werewolf, so its still possible that their is another killing role. I think you guys also stated theres a variant of ToS's veteran, which is called the paranoid gun owner. I can look it up but my assumption is that if he activates his ability then he kills people that visit him, so that is also a possibility. I dont think the borders mean anything, but we also can't really confirm this either unless we see a mafia flip with a red border. I'm assuming borders, and flavors were linked from the start, which means Rei-chan being red means nothing, but instead the possbility that he is actually a mafia lies soley in the name of his role, which is called trap, which of course is an indication to his personality also. Probably his role just flips the opposite of what ever his alignment is, but idk like it just seems so obvious, but the bastard could lie in the obviousness of his death flip.Thoughts on two deaths with a claimed TPR? So in theory we could all reveal what the background of our Role PM picture is to see if Tingle and some other townies have a Red background. But as it stands right now the way people have reacted to this it seems that town got backgrounds like Grapefruit and Phraze. roz the claimed TPR says his is different then the two we have seen already. Tingle's stands out as something different maybe they were a townie who flips scum? I haven't seen anyone propose that possibility. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:01 PM
#969
Mishukax said: I didn't say that?aa-dono said: I like what she said about Claire. She said what's in my mind exactly, as for logic based on meta he's too emotional to be scum, a scum logic is way more clam than that. and IDK about Mishu yet Whydopeopleonlyreadlogicbasedonhisemotionsholycrap. Just got out of Hydra Mafia where people townread him for being emotional or whatever, turns out he was scum, which made sense because of his actions which were relatively scummy. I just don't believe in 'emotion' as a tell anymore, and I think I never really did, sorry. I do agree that, emotions aside, logic is off to a nice start. ... |
Aug 21, 2017 9:03 PM
#970
logic340 said: Honestly, I just think you don't like me to analyze your posts one by one, you would rather be taken in the score of actions rather then by individual posts. I knew what it looked like when I read it, but I was not going to say it was worst vote n that train nor the best vote. It was the reaction to the vote at the time and how it laid out in the chain of events. I wasn't aware that we lynch our null reads for information, must be some kind of new rules.Suzune-chan said: This is kind of what I am talking about when I say that people only look at one post. So I vote for information or excitement huh? Post #611 quoted below in the spoiler came before my vote in #654. Please come again with this you are saying. I feel like this has shades of your read while SK in AoTS2 mafia but I don't want to meta you too much. The Chronicles of the Train logic340 said: Arrisu said: Well Mishu's vote is RVS and I am kind of neutral on Claire, a Phraze scum flip would go a long way to making me feel better about Claire. I am down if nothing else it will be interesting to see how votes move over the next hour and a half. logic340 said: If we cannot come to a consensus of sorts on a scum lynch in the next two hours I suggest we lynch claimed tpr. A big part of my reasoning is they claim they want to help town but I'm just not seeing that from them. I don't think the current vote count is conducive to catching scum. Too many min voters and to many one vote trains. Willing to lynch: Roz/Phraze/whisper Yee boi~ Let's lynch Phraze. He's the scummiest smelling scum right now. Unvote: Vote: Phraze @Phraze in a world where you and I are both town where should we be lynching at today? logic340 said: Phraze said: Vote: Mishukax my hat to u old chap lol actually I'm curious what role u got. to be hilarious XD interesting story btw. and CP is guaranteed to give us a headache yey~ 1. RVS pretty by the numbers NAI. Phraze said: @Mishukax Mishukax said: finished skimming the thread and it's interesting. and yeah, I'd rather switch my rvs now@Phraze do you still like your RVS vote on me or does this gamestate lead you to another line of thinking? @CorruptedPurity CorruptedPurity said: I respect that. the buzz around u was very helpfulAs usual I don't participate in RVS, but since I'm obviously best town, none of you have reasons to suspect me. To be honest, I'm not all that good at scumhunting (duh), so even while I will try to do so, I'll mainly utilize my role as a cleared town to help others scumhunt. An opinion of a clear town could be quite strong, as you can factor in on the all interactions and suspicions from me without having to worry if I am scum. So if you ever need my opinion on a certain read, just ping me. Also, can I get a "I respect that" for CP, the best town? @lastwhisper31 lastwhisper31 said: CP is better alive to mafia atm, since he's gonna intoxicate us late into the game. going after him on D1 is a wasteLol, Sorry its gunna take more than a big bold banner saying "CP is best town" to confirm ur alignment in a bastard game. and how are you so sure we will conform to this? @Arrisu Arrisu said: do u find CP suspicious or just strange?Of course nobody will believe you as of yet. It is a bastard game after all. Though why are you already putting so much focus onto whether we believe you or not? I dont see a train forming against you. Strange. Arrisu said: if u don't have a strong opinion why switch rvs onto Claire?Regarding her other post. I will be looking into it further but for the moment I have no strong opinion either way. @AbuHumaid AbuHumaid said: +1@lastwhisper31 you should stop throwing unnecessary shades and stick around even if it's 2much2read Phraze said: what I get from the thread so far is... Last too much omgus. first it was CP, then Claire Arrisu said Claire was suspicious but didn't talk much with Last(who was very suspicious of Claire?). had 'no strong opinion' but agreed. dunno how 2 ppl can come to a conclusion without talking it out Coelestin also seems suspicious for having rvs and switching votes despite not being active(or I missed it) the ppl that always confuse me: Mish/Suzu/Claire/Dono which leaves these townish?: Labs/Logic/Abu/Tingle/Maitai/roz1roz not sure if I have any solid reads on anyone since there's a tpr involved, but I prefer a vote on Last for now Vote: lastwhisper31 Phraze said: Coelestin said: u were in that game? funny I don't remember lol. didn't notice so many ppl voted Last tho. is he obv scum or just bad town? kinda forgot how it gets when scum sacrifice their buds I would like a better read on u plsWelp yeah, my own vote reminds me way too much of the Great Terror, cause I did exactly the same there. I've already accomplished what I wanted to accomplish here though, so let's get onto the fun~ Vote: LastWhisper31 What do you think about Claire now, logic? @Tingle why aren't you voting yet? Phraze said: @Coelestin I see lol I will be eaten alive in this game correction: I can never read u xD RIP my last like 20 posts I can't tell if ur tpr or scum, but it looks too towny for comfort. or if ur towny and won't be lynched, u have some guarantee to survive a nightkill?What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. Last bounced accusations around without a solid basis. simply cuz Logic suspected him he also started 'suspecting' Logic back 1. NAI post about already being at page 9. 2. I kind of like this post, doesn't feel like she's just trying to look busy but I can't really give this town points. 3. This post confuses me which is typical Phraze. I had to read it multiple times as the only OMGUS I felt coming from last was towards my slot. While I agree with the conclusions without talking part he rest of it seems to be a bit off base. Her confused and townish list need going through but at least she shared her thoughts on her own without people having to chase her down for them. 4. NAI post realizing that Coelestin is Chione 5. Seems that she believes Coelestin is playing too cleanly. An argument I have used as scum and something I have seen scum do in an effort to look townie so it's kind of NAI for now but worth noting for later. Phraze said: logic340 said: meta sure takes the fun out of the guessing pfft I refuse to look at meta~What I know about lastwhisper is he is in his 6th game I believe. They were Psychopass, Kiznaiver, Robot, The Morning After, AoT (ongoing) I may have missed one. He has rolled mafia 4 out of those 5 previous games. So if he is town here he hasn't been town much and doesn't have much experience. That being said it's very reminiscent of his scum game so I am very comfortable voting and pressuring here to sort him out. Phraze said: @logic340 You were both mafia in that game don't play around and act like you had to read her there. I still tried to get her meta for future reference XDWhat is your read on Coelestin so far? If you have trouble reading her you should work on sorting that out. my read on her is either scum or tpr, since she's too town for comfort. besides whatever I wrote in that post What do you find suspicious specifically? Is there a post you can link to help me understand where you are coming from? think I alrdy quoted that. she had no strong opinion on anyone yet switched vote to Claire few posts earlier. I'd imagine she had a good opinion on Claire to switch rvs to a real vote [edit: besides potentially agreeing with Last to vote Claire despite having no conversation with him]Phraze said: Coelestin said: ikr~Phraze said: @Coelestin I see lol I will be eaten alive in this game correction: I can never read u xD RIP my last like 20 posts I can't tell if ur tpr or scum, but it looks too towny for comfort. or if ur towny and won't be lynched, u have some guarantee to survive a nightkill?What part of the OMGUS makes you suspicious of whisper? OMGUS isn't exactly scum indicative. Last bounced accusations around without a solid basis. simply cuz Logic suspected him he also started 'suspecting' Logic back ...häh? Why should I care about that? Can you point out some posts where he did that? not sure I wanna dig up the links from 10 pages, since my internet's a pain, but the posts where he switched targets, and votes, should be proof enough (too aggressive imo) Phraze said: logic340 said: we all need to figure thought processes to win the game so no worries. meta just feels very spoilery [tho it's just a meta peeve of mine]Phraze said: I guess I will just start keeping my thoughts to myself and let you guess at why I do the things that I do.logic340 said: meta sure takes the fun out of the guessing pfft I refuse to look at meta~What I know about lastwhisper is he is in his 6th game I believe. They were Psychopass, Kiznaiver, Robot, The Morning After, AoT (ongoing) I may have missed one. He has rolled mafia 4 out of those 5 previous games. So if he is town here he hasn't been town much and doesn't have much experience. That being said it's very reminiscent of his scum game so I am very comfortable voting and pressuring here to sort him out. Phraze said: lastwhisper31 said: when u come back, pls give a brief explanation of ur gameplay. I'm new to u and have a bad impression, no offense. finding fault in every little thing is suspicious behaviorBeing low key roasted, all day, while at work. I'm just playing how I play, if I'm giving off scum vibes then there isn't much I can say. Seems tho that in the 4 hours I've been at work, still got 3 more, all I see is posts focused on me. #Feelsbad @Logic340 to be all honest, idk what game ur reading that helped u come to conclusion that this is another one of my scum games, I'm sorry but ur diving to deep into meta, cause I ain't scum this game. I'll post again later, I just wanted to make this post while on break. Phraze said: @Suzune-chan didn't notice it was ur bday. happy birthday <3 @logic340 @Phraze gotta look over what you've posted recently. Out of nei into neutral. cool ty. would most likely be active over the weekend and half asleep@Phraze and @Coelestin check the spoiler below I think this it's the posts in question. there's a post where Last switched focus from CP to Claire@_Claire_ You did not outline why youre voting Last instead youre jumping on opportunity. Is that what im seeing atm? I make my own decisions. <- long time no say itI didn't outline but I can refer for u to read. or rather, just read through the whole 10 pages and try to feel the whole direction Last has been steering. there's advantages in backreading(or catching up in my case). Last is acting too carefree for town, that means he has protection of some sort, which would mean he's scum or town with some bastard powers as for reference: he hammered on CP for a long while, what he wrote when voting u(Claire) and Logic posted the one about him at #460 @Arrisu Arrisu said: ermm..ur one of my scum leans yknow. Chi should be fine since ur saying this, in my pov. next in line after Last, should he require the benefit of doubtAs of now, I feel like Chi is playing her town game. I like the way she's thinking. It feels genuine. 1. I can respect her not wanting to let meta influence her reads but she needs to get an understanding of where people are coming from which is what my post was trying to accomplish. Also she overlooks the fact that I said he could be town with little exp but not sure if that is all that alignment indicative. 2. This feels like a bit of a contradiction to the post above it. Doesn't want whisper's meta but tried to collect Coelstin meta when they were scum together? @Phraze why so against meta here when you were collecting meta for yourself previously? 3. Not sure how I feel about this one. I don't think that a great reason for a vote switch is necessary at that stage of the game. I make moves around that stage often forcing ties and moving new people into the lead slot all the time, so I can say from my own exp that it isn't scum indicative. Phraze I think is forcing this one but will keep an eye on it. 4. To lazy to substantiate her claim? Not sure that is a scum mindset as they are usually gung ho about getting people on board with their ideas if they are ballsy enough to put them out there like that. 5. I really like this one feels like she is trying to actually understand him rather than just label him one way or the other. 6. I like how she lays out her thoughts in regards to whisper here, but not sure if that is a nod for town. If whisper is struggling new town then he is giving mafia an easy target imo. As for Phraze this doesn't feel all that opportunistic to me. Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 Did I really do that much omgus towards CP and Claire? I can see that coming in an arguement if your refering to me and Logic? All I did was RVS Claire, and I told her I was gunna do it. So you already read the 9 pages, and came to the consensus that my omgus posts mean I'm scum? not the rvs. Claire had some attention somewhere in the game and u shifted focus to her from CP.Can you explain to me my what you mean by bounced accusations, Im trying to poke people, and honestly Logic suspects me every game so its nothing new, but I can say I was a little heated last night and jumped the boat on that vote. I get suspicious of ppl aggressively poking ppl and then back off saying it was a strategy. I got lynched so hard over that lmao@Phraze, so exactly why are you voting me, again? u have to explain to me how u play as town. I'm new to u so I'm basing off general reading. u created a lot of confusion with ur readings and accusations, which is beneficial to mafia and not townPhraze said: slight correction: Last only targeted Claire and not vote her somewhere midgame. thought it was both >.> Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 lastwhisper31 said: [spoiler="Most of Lamb's Posts"] Labs said: Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... Labs said: Mishukax said: CorruptedPurity said: Tfw there is a literal banner in large, bold words from the host giving me innocent child status and no one believes me... Some of us have a sad past with confirmed townies in bastard games. Some of us have bastard experience. Some of us are mafia trying do negate a townfirm in case it'd turn out useful. Chances are even some of us are the three of those. Dunno what Labs has in mind but I'm gonna listen to him. Are you still against someone claiming if he's getting lynched hard? Of-course I am.... why would someone be getting lynched in the first place, why wouldn't they just give us a decent reason not to eventually. Also it's a bastard Role-madness game, errbody guna have a role or more mixed into it, everyone's guna be just as useful in one way or another, so I wont really care unless it's some super dunk a nigg modded doctor.... and if that's the case they'd be fuhkked for claiming. I'd prefer someone who knows how to play the game for what it is instead. Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: You don't know who is said role anyways..... right?Labs said: Thanks for the tip, probably wont NK him then... :PCorruptedPurity said: Labs said: Actually got me thinking. I think there would be some people who would be cheeky and vote their flavour role... Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... If labs is CP I want him lynched, I don't trust that lil shit. On a more serious tone, I'd actually look at this RVS a bit more carefully than usual as it may be useful when people start claiming later on. Unless everyone's TPR, I doubt there's room for being a dumb ass like that ^^ As for a CP role, best.... possibly wurst case scenario I can see them holding a N1 death trigger of sorts for the lols. Conversion, bomb, some kind of target for TPR or just a benefit for anyone that hits them N1. Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: I can work with that then, would you NK yourself?Labs said: Nope, I only know my rolelastwhisper31 said: You don't know who is said role anyways..... right?Labs said: Thanks for the tip, probably wont NK him then... :PCorruptedPurity said: Labs said: Also you weren't forgotten, you're allowed to claim, that's all. Actually I'd like to see you try.... Actually got me thinking. I think there would be some people who would be cheeky and vote their flavour role... If labs is CP I want him lynched, I don't trust that lil shit. On a more serious tone, I'd actually look at this RVS a bit more carefully than usual as it may be useful when people start claiming later on. Unless everyone's TPR, I doubt there's room for being a dumb ass like that ^^ As for a CP role, best.... possibly wurst case scenario I can see them holding a N1 death trigger of sorts for the lols. Conversion, bomb, some kind of target for TPR or just a benefit for anyone that hits them N1. Labs said: AbuHumaid said: Me 3lastwhisper31 said: Okay. I'm mafiaAbuHumaid said: Welcome, say something scummy so I can vote you please.oh it's going down already Labs said: AbuHumaid said: Me 3lastwhisper31 said: Okay. I'm mafiaAbuHumaid said: Welcome, say something scummy so I can vote you please.oh it's going down already Labs said: lastwhisper31 said: Let's just take our conversation to the mafia club instead :SIts funny how drastically the tone of this game changes, once Logic hops in. Logic got us guys, Me, Lamby, and Abu for scum team. Im going to sleep... Labs said: Mishukax said: Well... I get your point I guess, but you might not have to.... not for longGonna head out soon too, but for good measure: I'm not gonna tolerate a game full of "I'm scum" from Lamb. Not that I don't expect him to eventually step it up since I know he's good, but I want to mention this at least. And I suppose this concerns Abu and whisper as well. I understand the will to joke around, but claiming you're scum no matter the intent or context can get pretty confusing for town and people might end up reading you solely on the wine that such statements are creating. So yeah, I don't really care for those posts, just don't abuse them. Tingle and roz1roz are new players for me, I'm looking forward to them. Coelestin is... Chione, I believe? If so, heck yes. Good night to all. Vote: Mishu Labs said: Yeeaahhhh dis bold seems on point tbh.Tingle said: would host actually do that? It feels kinda unlikely to me.I am glad you asked this cause I was contemplating alot about revealing my second ability or not. My Passive is "Best Town" - It does as what Ruu posted at the start of the thread. Host did warn me that people may not believe me because it was a bastard game though. Seems like his warning is true. I have another passive which can turn into an active under a set of conditions. What it is, what it can be and what the conditions are will be secret for now. I don't see the host sticking their nose in the game like that...... I'd bet more on backwards meta fuhkking the roster, as per the repeat of not tagging said player with the whole best town insert. Edit: I cut the quote up wrong here.... wooops Labs said: _Claire_ said: PS: as the phase change is always at 6 AM my time, it is next to impossible for me to be in any phase change at all. Cheers, I'll know to snipe you then <3 of all ppl why him.... vvv Phraze said: u created a lot of confusion with ur readings and accusations, which is beneficial to mafia and not town Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 I get an idea of how u play now anddd like ur approach to ur predicament changing votes Vote: Arrisu Arrisu and Chi team sounds cool atm pls just not Dono cuz I'm bad at dealing with emotional appeal Phraze said: @aa-donomind a little chat? <3 what u think of things so far? Phraze said: logic340 said: u mean talking to me? I can't read him if I don't talk to him~@lastwhisper31 lets focus our attention elsewhere because this is getting us no where. Just leave your vote on me and talk with someone else for a while please. Phraze said: @lastwhisper31 hi~ I said somewhere earlier that Arrisu is my next suspect if ur to be given the benefit of doubt. pretty sure I mentioned her in the same post @aa-donoI totally agree about Mish. he goes off radar too easily >.> can't read him to save my life Arrisu is suspicious for 2nding doubts and not having solid opinions. doesn't look like she has contributed to the hunt so far, only comment 1. I like and agree with her reasoning on whisper I really like the first part of the post but that doesn't mean it comes from town. The last part I really like and for town as she feels like she is actually trying to understand him rather than just target him for a lynch. 2. NAI post? Corrects something she got wrong about whisper would scum do this? 3. While I like this question it's pretty NAI and she could have gone a little deeper, this is kind of a barebones question. 4. Not sure what she means here would have liked to see more of her thought process in moving this vote as she felt like she had a bit of a scum read on whisper. She had stated her opinion on Arrisu a little earlier but I feel like this this slightly contradicts what she said about Coelestin on Page 10 about voting without strong/good reasons. Seem hypocritical of her. 5. Very barebones question to dono. 6. NAI as I am not sure what she is getting at here nor do I think it really matters. 7. This read on Arrisu feels a bit weird. Arri hasn't left the deepest impression on me but I wouldn't class what she has done as not having a solid opinion or lacking contribution. I can actually think of about 5 or 6 players in this game who would have less contribution or solid opinions at this stage and Phraze happens to be one of them. Overall I think I am neutral leaning scum on Phraze right now but knowing I have a hard time reading and understanding her mindset I wouldn't be surprised if this read is off. I would be willing to vote for her though as she needs to show more. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:03 PM
#971
logic340 said: Also understandable, I don't want to attack her because I understand she has a point to all her logic (pun intended), and I understand you get info by poking things, but see it through my eyes, if we are playing under the assumption that Tingle is mafia, and lets say this leads all the way to a lynch on me, is it my fault for never interacting with her when I flip town, or would I be unlucky just because she never interacted with me. Either way like you said, there are many other places to push at the moment. Im still waiting for Lamby to re appear, so ill probably take a look at claires interactionslastwhisper31 said: Fair enough on the "same time present" part. Go ahead and pressure her but what if you find you two were online at the same time? As I have backread I don't see anything from you going Tingle's way btw. so it seems to be a truthful observation that you are taking such offense too. Everything that happens or is said is not an attack on you again we are going over the information to see where it leads us. Please help us instead of fighting us all the time. logic340 said: lastwhisper31 said: This is just her interactions going out from her slot to other players and not the other way around. She didn't interact with you but Idk if it was the other way around. Also you don't have to be online together to interact with one another. You were a hot topic and while she touched on me and you a bit she did not actually ask you any questions or anything. Again I want to work with you today so please don't view everything like an attack, we are just working through the information. Arrisu said: show me times when we were both online? If I didn't interact with her then I saw no need to.@Logic340 - What do you think are the odds of her not having any interactions with her scum buddies? I can understand her not having any interactions with Phraze and Maitai because they weren't active at the same time. But Whisper and Claire? I'm pretty sure Tingle was around when both these players were present. Edit: I also know that this is kinda farfetched because if I get lynched I cant solely blame it on this. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:05 PM
#972
aa-dono said: ... nope moving on Mishukax said: I didn't say that?aa-dono said: I like what she said about Claire. She said what's in my mind exactly, as for logic based on meta he's too emotional to be scum, a scum logic is way more clam than that. and IDK about Mishu yet Whydopeopleonlyreadlogicbasedonhisemotionsholycrap. Just got out of Hydra Mafia where people townread him for being emotional or whatever, turns out he was scum, which made sense because of his actions which were relatively scummy. I just don't believe in 'emotion' as a tell anymore, and I think I never really did, sorry. I do agree that, emotions aside, logic is off to a nice start. ... |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:07 PM
#973
logic340 said: Ahh. Now I get it. Sorry. Thanks.aa-dono said: Because you went at Abu about one question out of the whole conversation. He stated who he thought we should be looking into it was Claire. She asked again what was he supposed to say. Please read the quote chain and see if you can see where I am coming from here. logic340 said: aa-dono said: After re-reading this quote chain I am really surprised that you took Clarie's side of this and even went as far as to bring up deflecting from a direct question with everything else that we got out of Abu during this interaction with Clare. I feel like people look at one post too often instead of what lead to the post they are thinking about. I also feel like if you want Abu to answer something asking barebones questions like who should we look into is the wrong way to go about it. Even worse since I caught flack for saying we should look into Abu/last/Labs for their scum claims and got a ton of backlash for it. logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. Edit: Why was whoever Abu decided to say better then the options I chose without being asked? And I'm sorry logic, but I don't really understand everything after the taking Claire's side so I'm not sure how to answer you. So I feel like you looked at the fact that Abu didn't answer her question but her question has already been answered as he is pushing his suspicions on her and saying that she is scummy for her push on CP. Claire's question is just a place filler and since you picked up on it made Abu look bad to you though the answer was clear LOOK INTO CLAIRE. I hope this makes more sense to you. I wish people would read the post that lead up to the post they are talking about. There is more to a response then the post itself as it is generally one small part of a larger interaction. |
Aug 21, 2017 9:09 PM
#974
aa-dono said: The bolded: well maybe you should verify with Abu and others if my read is correct. That is a start to sorting me out. Also I don't mind if people want to sort out Abu I just feel questions like "who is suspicious" "where should we look" aren't the way to go about it. Continue on and continue to get the responses you do. Also please look into Abu I got so much flack for saying look into him for his scum claim now I am protecting him? I can't please anyone around here. logic340 said: I don't answer all questions too. Sometimes on purpose, sometimes I missed it, sometimes just testing.aa-dono said: logic340 said: I don't deal with direct meta. Question asked, you answer. He has every right not to answer, but that doesn't discredit Claire's push on him. Let him answer things directed at him - or choose not to, and be read for it.aa-dono said: LMMFAO are you for real? go find me a time where abu ever gave an answer on who we should be looking into....I will wait for this one. This is a frequent question that he is asked btw.logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. But everyone else is allowed to read into what I do since choosing to answer is also a behaviour. Congrats, you got Abu meta. We don't. So really, why are you so against people going at him? Abu seems to be doing fine, don't baby him. At least that's the impression I get from games where you're there with him. Back to game, Claire asked him who he'd suggest Claire look into since he was against the whole CP idea. Up till that +1 he ignored the question. And he hasn't been giving any of his own reads. Why do you think we should've let it go? If you really think Abu had no reads before you +1 then you need to go back and re-read D1 again. Some things can be implied and his suspicions of Claire and thinking we should be looking there is kind of clear if you follow his posts. That is what I am getting at you take the fact he didn't answer her question about who to look at and label it whatever you are labeling it then again not to be rude I will lob all the unanswered questions your way so you can tell me who is scummy for it and who isn't. edit: It's a very bad argument but I will send those posts your way to prove my point if I have to. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:11 PM
#975
@aa-dono Have you seen Abu's post, like have you actually looked at them because if u did then idk how you wouldn't give him huge town points. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:14 PM
#976
lastwhisper31 said: CorruptedPurity said: I feel like we should talk about that maybe 1 scenario, and why you think hes def town?Thoughts on Chi's death. Arri is definetly town, in every possible scenario except maybe 1. But even then, that's a low possibility. Chi was a smart kill, if she was a night kill. I expect scum to be a strong player, looking at suzu, logic, Arri and to a certain extent, aa-dono and lastwhisper. 3 scenarios 1) due to some unholy bastard system. Chione is scum. Scum wouldn't townblock another scum that heavily. Arri is town 2) Chione is town, arri is town, lul. 3) chione is town, arri is scum who decided to kill chione. Pros and cons Pros: Solidify her town status temporarily. Stop a strong player Cons: a player is looking away from her, why not let her continue her wrong ways? The player severely townreads her, having ber around to defend her is much better. From what I heard from chi, arri is not a confident scum, only scum confident in themselves to survive without a townread plays option 3 |
Aug 21, 2017 9:15 PM
#977
aa-dono said: Cool I just pointed out a similar thing with Suzune in regards to my vote on Phraze. She said it was for information but if you read from my #611 and there after I can't see how she comes to the conclusion that my vote was for information or excitement?logic340 said: Ahh. Now I get it. Sorry. Thanks.aa-dono said: logic340 said: Why were you surprised I took her side?aa-dono said: After re-reading this quote chain I am really surprised that you took Clarie's side of this and even went as far as to bring up deflecting from a direct question with everything else that we got out of Abu during this interaction with Clare. I feel like people look at one post too often instead of what lead to the post they are thinking about. I also feel like if you want Abu to answer something asking barebones questions like who should we look into is the wrong way to go about it. Even worse since I caught flack for saying we should look into Abu/last/Labs for their scum claims and got a ton of backlash for it. logic340 said: Hnn why not? Abu deflect a direct question.aa-dono said: I don't like this plus 1 at all as you could have given who you think we should be looking into._Claire_ said: +1AbuHumaid said: And you have not answered who we should look into, if you dont like all attention on CP._Claire_ said: I never said you're pushing too hard what? getting defensive already?AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: Fine this is a bastard game, this doesn't mean he has a higher of being scum. It's still a 50% chance AbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: what else could "Best Town" mean? even if he got a player that's known for being "best town". I never said it's 1000% guaranteed he's town what i'm saying is we should keep him for later and not waste too much time thinking about this. and you didn't answer my question btwAbuHumaid said: _Claire_ said: I never forgot that, regardless if it's a bastard game or not, innocent child is a townie role there's a higher chance he's town than scum. What makes you think that there's a higher chance for him to be scum?AbuHumaid said: there's a high possibility he's town, what if we suspect him and lynch him then he flips town? we would have wasted a lot of time that could be used to catch a legit scum You forget that this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum, not town imo. Duh. Since when the host announced him as Innocent Child? The host just said he was best town. Best town =/= innocent child. Because "best town" can still roll as scum. He is only best town if he rolls town. Now we dont know if his role is scum/town so despite the person he rolls into is famous for being best town, there is no guarantee he is town. He will be a thorn in the ass later on if not dealt now. I already explained it, this is a bastard game. There is higher chance he is scum than town from his grand opening by host. I will take a note that youre so unwilling to look at him now though, because we have got no better lead atm. Who do you propose we should look at then? Don't get me wrong, everyone should be pressured but pushing on CP too much so early in the game is scummy, if he's town a mafia would know it and try to get him mislynched using a weak reason like "this is a bastard game, he MUST be scum" What do you mean I am pushing too hard on CP? Its only the beginning of the game. Lol. If anything your unwillingness to divert our attention is suspicious. Who should we look into then, if not CP? Give a good suggestion and good reasons please, or you are under my red radar. why would a scum divert your attention? and why would they even bother? I'm not the one to boss you around, you can look into anyone you see sus @_Claire_ we are at the point where everyone needs to be looked into. So I choose logic for you to look into as I don't like your singular focus. Edit: Why was whoever Abu decided to say better then the options I chose without being asked? And I'm sorry logic, but I don't really understand everything after the taking Claire's side so I'm not sure how to answer you. So I feel like you looked at the fact that Abu didn't answer her question but her question has already been answered as he is pushing his suspicions on her and saying that she is scummy for her push on CP. Claire's question is just a place filler and since you picked up on it made Abu look bad to you though the answer was clear LOOK INTO CLAIRE. I hope this makes more sense to you. I wish people would read the post that lead up to the post they are talking about. There is more to a response then the post itself as it is generally one small part of a larger interaction. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:18 PM
#978
lastwhisper31 said: Lol so if I question someone it's a sign of scumread?@aa-dono Have you seen Abu's post, like have you actually looked at them because if u did then idk how you wouldn't give him huge town points. I'm not giving anyone huge town points. Betrayal hurts, you know? (slightly directing this to logic) I like everything Abu does EoD. I don't really get what he was doing previously, but I guess I just misunderstood him. I wished he was the one to correct reads on him though, and not logic. |
Aug 21, 2017 9:18 PM
#979
Guys, do me a favour and say "I respect that". It has to do with my second ability. I wanted to save it but I'm tired to looking in circles. |
Aug 21, 2017 9:19 PM
#980
CorruptedPurity said: lastwhisper31 said: CorruptedPurity said: Thoughts on Chi's death. Arri is definetly town, in every possible scenario except maybe 1. But even then, that's a low possibility. Chi was a smart kill, if she was a night kill. I expect scum to be a strong player, looking at suzu, logic, Arri and to a certain extent, aa-dono and lastwhisper. 3 scenarios 1) due to some unholy bastard system. Chione is scum. Scum wouldn't townblock another scum that heavily. Arri is town 2) Chione is town, arri is town, lul. 3) chione is town, arri is scum who decided to kill chione. Pros and cons Pros: Solidify her town status temporarily. Stop a strong player Cons: a player is looking away from her, why not let her continue her wrong ways? The player severely townreads her, having ber around to defend her is much better. From what I heard from chi, arri is not a confident scum, only scum confident in themselves to survive without a townread plays option 3 It's called power wolfing. A great example is Suzune's recently finished Vengeful game where Crossbell and Ruu town read on another and split the town. I find this very unlikely though as I town read Coelestin slightly and I am not willing to wine myself on her flip. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:19 PM
#981
CorruptedPurity said: I respect that.Guys, do me a favour and say "I respect that". It has to do with my second ability. I wanted to save it but I'm tired to looking in circles. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:20 PM
#982
CorruptedPurity said: "I respect that" though I think I already said it this phase. Guys, do me a favour and say "I respect that". It has to do with my second ability. I wanted to save it but I'm tired to looking in circles. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:20 PM
#983
Suzune-chan said: #thug lifeCorruptedPurity said: I respect that.Guys, do me a favour and say "I respect that". It has to do with my second ability. I wanted to save it but I'm tired to looking in circles. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:21 PM
#984
aa-dono said: I'm not giving anyone huge town points. Betrayal hurts, you know? (slightly directing this to logic) Hugs Theee there... Everything is going to be fine now... |
Aug 21, 2017 9:22 PM
#985
lastwhisper31 said: where you shades at brah?Suzune-chan said: #thug lifeCorruptedPurity said: Guys, do me a favour and say "I respect that". It has to do with my second ability. I wanted to save it but I'm tired to looking in circles. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:22 PM
#986
CorruptedPurity said: Could you vote for me? Then I'll say it. Guys, do me a favour and say "I respect that". It has to do with my second ability. I wanted to save it but I'm tired to looking in circles. |
Aug 21, 2017 9:22 PM
#987
logic340 said: I feel like in this kind of setup it would be less likely to find a power wolfing scenario because of the bastard setup it makes it more difficult to pull off tricks like that as opposed to a basic game with relies more on player interactions. CorruptedPurity said: lastwhisper31 said: CorruptedPurity said: I feel like we should talk about that maybe 1 scenario, and why you think hes def town?Thoughts on Chi's death. Arri is definetly town, in every possible scenario except maybe 1. But even then, that's a low possibility. Chi was a smart kill, if she was a night kill. I expect scum to be a strong player, looking at suzu, logic, Arri and to a certain extent, aa-dono and lastwhisper. 3 scenarios 1) due to some unholy bastard system. Chione is scum. Scum wouldn't townblock another scum that heavily. Arri is town 2) Chione is town, arri is town, lul. 3) chione is town, arri is scum who decided to kill chione. Pros and cons Pros: Solidify her town status temporarily. Stop a strong player Cons: a player is looking away from her, why not let her continue her wrong ways? The player severely townreads her, having ber around to defend her is much better. From what I heard from chi, arri is not a confident scum, only scum confident in themselves to survive without a townread plays option 3 It's called power wolfing. A great example is Suzune's recently finished Vengeful game where Crossbell and Ruu town read on another and split the town. I find this very unlikely though as I town read Coelestin slightly and I am not willing to wine myself on her flip. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:23 PM
#988
lastwhisper31 said: I noticed it was being said a lot last phase, so I suppose it makes sense to keep saying it~Suzune-chan said: #thug lifeCorruptedPurity said: Guys, do me a favour and say "I respect that". It has to do with my second ability. I wanted to save it but I'm tired to looking in circles. |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:24 PM
#989
aa-dono said: I totally understand. Trust is to be earned not expected. I am working on it.I'm not giving anyone huge town points. Betrayal hurts, you know? (slightly directing this to logic) |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:25 PM
#990
Can I ask something? Did Tingle show up mafia? Since all I can see it the same blue town? Or is it because of the colour of role card? Or because her rolename is Trap? How certain are you that Chi/Tingle is town/mafia? |
Aug 21, 2017 9:26 PM
#991
I have 4 now - suzu, logic, phrase and Claire I need 6 more. I technically unlock an ability at 5 but that can't be used now. Also, my ability usage is dependent on whether host is online for me to activate it or not. Give me 6 more and I will give you what I have. All cards on the table |
Aug 21, 2017 9:27 PM
#992
CorruptedPurity said: You make me nervous when you put all your cards on the table, but the more you post the stronger my town read gets for you~I have 4 now - suzu, logic, phrase and Claire I need 6 more. I technically unlock an ability at 5 but that can't be used now. Also, my ability usage is dependent on whether host is online for me to activate it or not. Give me 6 more and I will give you what I have. All cards on the table |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:27 PM
#993
aa-dono said: CorruptedPurity said: Could you vote for me? Then I'll say it. Guys, do me a favour and say "I respect that". It has to do with my second ability. I wanted to save it but I'm tired to looking in circles. Vote: aa-dono Let's do this |
Aug 21, 2017 9:28 PM
#994
CorruptedPurity said: If you get 6 more you'll die lol. This is majority + plurality lynch. Lock lynch will happen. Though I forgot the count today.I have 4 now - suzu, logic, phrase and Claire I need 6 more. I technically unlock an ability at 5 but that can't be used now. Also, my ability usage is dependent on whether host is online for me to activate it or not. Give me 6 more and I will give you what I have. All cards on the table You need 1 more. Gimme a vote? |
Aug 21, 2017 9:29 PM
#995
CorruptedPurity said: I respect that. @Suzune-chan @logic340 wanna help me with this? I give you guys free town cred for a bit ^^aa-dono said: CorruptedPurity said: Guys, do me a favour and say "I respect that". It has to do with my second ability. I wanted to save it but I'm tired to looking in circles. Vote: aa-dono Let's do this |
Aug 21, 2017 9:29 PM
#996
aa-dono said: It's mixture all those things I think. I may have also caused some confusion as I thought it say mafia but maybe I just saw what I was thinking at the time since it says town?Can I ask something? Did Tingle show up mafia? Since all I can see it the same blue town? Or is it because of the colour of role card? Or because her rolename is Trap? How certain are you that Chi/Tingle is town/mafia? |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:33 PM
#997
aa-dono said: I don't need the free town cred. I like to be helpful so lets see if I can be of some service. CorruptedPurity said: I respect that. @Suzune-chan @logic340 wanna help me with this? I give you guys free town cred for a bit ^^aa-dono said: CorruptedPurity said: Could you vote for me? Then I'll say it. Guys, do me a favour and say "I respect that". It has to do with my second ability. I wanted to save it but I'm tired to looking in circles. Vote: aa-dono Let's do this vote: aa-dono |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:33 PM
#998
aa-dono said: Doing what? Voting you?CorruptedPurity said: I respect that. @Suzune-chan @logic340 wanna help me with this? I give you guys free town cred for a bit ^^aa-dono said: CorruptedPurity said: Could you vote for me? Then I'll say it. Guys, do me a favour and say "I respect that". It has to do with my second ability. I wanted to save it but I'm tired to looking in circles. Vote: aa-dono Let's do this |
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Aug 21, 2017 9:36 PM
#999
Suzune-chan said: Yes.aa-dono said: Doing what? Voting you?CorruptedPurity said: aa-dono said: CorruptedPurity said: Could you vote for me? Then I'll say it. Guys, do me a favour and say "I respect that". It has to do with my second ability. I wanted to save it but I'm tired to looking in circles. Vote: aa-dono Let's do this |
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