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May 16, 2017 9:06 AM
#351
logic340 said: wen294 said: It's like you read my mind. I am looking into Shinichi right now, I am also willing to vote Melanoid or Rosie at this point.@Melanoid, you voted AbuHeman because he was inactive. He no longer is inactive but now you are. You're gonna need to give some reasoning for it if you're not gonna change your vote. Also @logic340, you voted him because you wanted a counter-train. Well you got it. Do you actually think your vote is placed on scum or not? If not you might wanna consider moving it now that you've achieved your goal. I want your opinion on this then: wen294 said: Shinichi-Kun said: wen294 said: Shinichi-Kun said: They wanted to do it for information. Information that could be usefull as either alignment.wen294 said: Clearly had an eye on her role at the time he made the post, and says himself that the role is the reason for the vote. Not sure what he's talking about with character tho, i guess he means personality? Guess i'll move my vote: Change vote: Shinichi-kun You are correct in that assumption. Also whats the difference between my vote on rose and those on the occult it seems like they had wanted todo that from the start also. Going for the bomb so you can take her role is by far scummier. Where have i stated i wanted her role tho? Why are you making assumption on what my agenda is? I Actually forgot what my role was when i voted her lol. How bad is your short time memory then? Your post was 12 minutes after you learned your role. You posted your own role in the post directly above it which was a whopping 4 minutes before, with the original post with roles from jack still in the screen as well. I don't believe for a single second that you forgot your role when you made that post. You think it's legit? I don't really buy it tbh, and i don't see any reason at all for town to lie there, hence my scumread on him. I mean if his memory IS that bad then sorry but for now i ain't buying it. |
May 16, 2017 9:11 AM
#352
Taking a lunch break be back shortly. Vote: Melanoid When I get back hope to finish this ISO quick then decide if this is where my vote stays. |
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May 16, 2017 9:11 AM
#353
Ruu said: Wouch. My condoleances. my grandpa just died. I won't be active during D1 and N1 probably. Well D1 is almost at it's end and you probs wouldn't be the only one not to talk during the night. I don't think you need to worry about that too much. Family is more important. |
May 16, 2017 9:13 AM
#354
WyNdZ said: Damn so many posts to read and I really want to watch the IPL cricket match going on right now...... wen294 said: I don't really see why 'more people' would jump on the train after 3. Well maybe 1 more or so but after that it's unlikely. Not pressuring your scum buddy the entire game would be riskier, so when you wanna pressure somebody anyway, best do it early on right? A few people have already said they were finding zymf's behaviour suspicious so they might have voted on him later on and all the other votes were scattered. It did not look like we were going in the right direction so I provided the information in the hopes that something would come out of it. I guess it depends on the person. Every person has a different playstyle. I've already stated my reasons for why that would be a bad idea but like I said every person plays differently. Shinichi-Kun said: Also the situation would have been more likely if u waited to confirm the town person but now that you didnt i would say its prob like a 20-25% this situation is there. I didn't understand what you meant by this. Till when was I suppose to wait to confirm the town person? I didn't want to give the info at the last moment in the day phase because that would create chaos and it was looking like zymf might get lynched. I initially intended to release the info on night 1 but I felt that releasing it during this phase would be beneficial. I was implying that if you somehow managed to survive till day 3 there is a higher chance u would be scum and if you outted ur target around that time if be even higher chance u were both scum, not that u revealed earl the possiblity is slim but still there. |
May 16, 2017 9:32 AM
#355
π« Vote Count 1.7 π« π₯ π₯ AbuHumaid π₯ π₯ (2): π° melanoid, Zymf π° π₯ π₯ WyNdZ π₯ π₯ (2): π° yurkin, RE1031 π° π₯ π₯ logic340 π₯ π₯ (2): π° Oyasumi_Rosie, Ruu π° π₯ π₯ Melanoid π₯ π₯ (2): π° logic340, WyNdZ π° π£ Shinichi-kun π£ (1): π° wen294 π° π± Not Voting π± Shinichi-kun, AbuHumaid, Crossbell π€ Role Index π€ Camoflagued Egg [Watcher] - Crossbell Fullmetal Egg [Jailer] - Zymf Golden Egg [Lightning Rod] - AbuHumaid Explosive Egg [Bomb] - Oyasumi_Rosie Occult Egg [Peeker] - Wyndz Duckling Egg [Neighborizerr] - Logic340 Sparkling Egg [Reloader] - Yurkin Royal Egg [Doublevoter] - Re1031 Spooky Egg [Amnesiac] - Shinichi-kun Decorative Egg [Artist] - wen294 Oeuf Suprême [Chef] - melanoid Green Egg and Ham [Egg Thrower] - Ruu >>Day 1 Timer<< |
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May 16, 2017 9:37 AM
#356
@Togs RE's vote is on Zymf and Wyndz in the vote count |
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May 16, 2017 9:37 AM
#357
Unvote Why do you guys have to post so much when I'm asleep? I'll be out and about again today but I'll try to post from phone. |
May 16, 2017 9:37 AM
#358
May 16, 2017 9:43 AM
#360
yurkin said: Oh, having a vote count is helpful. Thought someone was leading the with 3 votes but i was wrong lol There was untill logic changed vote not too long ago. I'm considering voting Abu but i don't really like the prospect of voting together with 2 inactives ._. Be happy that we're posting at all ;) Also we're nearing phase change so not too weird. |
May 16, 2017 9:46 AM
#361
True. Gonna try to catch up from my phone but a full catch-up seems impossible. I really want to look into the people who voted Zymf. Of course that includes me, but I know I'm town, so. The above votecount is also one that never lynches a wolf IMO. I need to fix it. |
May 16, 2017 9:47 AM
#362
On mobile still out of the office. ISO isn't going to be finished before phase change but I'll share what I have in a moment. Was still compiling his post so I haven't given my thoughts yet. |
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May 16, 2017 9:54 AM
#363
Shinichi: (currently incomplete) #17 - Says Spooky Egg fits him well. #18 - Votes Rosie feels her role and character need some pressure. #21 - Tells RE he doesn't think it's necessary for Wyndz to tell us right away. Also says it may be worse if he is scum. He'd rather wait a couple of phases. #22 - Says his role was 6th on his list. #25 - Tells RE the problem with people revealing their lists is they could lie and they could fake their list. #28 - Asks Ruu what she means by Shinichi wanting to get Rosie's role. He wants to see how she reacts to pressure and how others deal with her. He thinks it's a fair reason to vote for her and says his vote isn't RVS #39 - Tells Ruu he had forgotten that he could take her power says it's a valid argument, though they weren't his intentions. Says he wouldn't point out the role he wanted. #42 - Tell RE she made a fair point that he didn't consider. Everyone will have. #44 - Asks wen if for now we can wait on abusing gimmicks as we have 48 hours. #45 - Says yes he is pressure voting the bomb role. Says he knows how people feel about certain members on MS. Asksme if I didn't say to not let emotion and inactivity keep us from voting who we think are scum in my previous game. #46 - Tell Rosie she could mention grapefruit without voting for him. #50 - Says he came to the same conclusion as me regarding Wyndz revealing who confirmed town is. #51 - Tells Abu sadly in response to him going to bed as soon as the game started. #53 - Tells logic he is town so he isn't scared of Rosie's role. Says that the mafia may slip if they know she is the train that is going to be lynched. #56 - Tell logic pretty much but if everyone tells the truth then we will have gotten nowhere. #63 - Nothing to say about Rosie's Grapefruit lurker comment but a laugh. #68 - Tells Rosie he was not implying that she was scum. Says that her death could be beneficial to town D1 if need be. #74 - Tells Rosie choosing her target at the beginning of the game doesn't make sense. Says that town hasn't won in like 6 games. #75 - Tells Logic that being on Rosie's lynch train is something scum wouldn't want to risk. #82 - Tells Rosie he gets what she is talking about. Choosing role at the beginning of the game not her target. Tells her that her death had nothing to do with town losing it was just one bad step. #84 - Tells Rosie he would rather she not use RNG in general and wants her to put some serious though into her target. #101 - Tells Rosie that it's not the same since there are more town aligned options than scum aligned ones. #102 - Still doesn't agree with knowing the confirmed town at this point but likes Zymf's questions to Wyndz. #103 - Tells logic that he put neighbor at the bottom of his list because he hates the role. #104 - Tells Ruu that Rosie will likely be used for town (if she is town). Says anyone can lead a lynch and that he need to stop pocketing people in general. #105 - Tells Crossbell that depending on how Rosie wants to use her ability we might be able to tell if she is town or scum. Says what is a vote besides pressure. Says that a lot can be gained from who will and wont vote her and how she reacts to it. #106 - Tellls Crossbell people always do it as a game starter and says he believes it was RE. #107 - Says that he wants the mechanics talk to stop. Says he thinks Wyndz train is town and feels Ruu is trying to discredit it. #110 - Tells Rosie meta plus role shouldn't define logic's alignment. Says behaviorally logic is acting townie but it could be pocketing which is his reason for not wanting Wyndz to reveal the townie right now. #111 - Tells Rosie since all the roles are revealed so speculating on which could be town and scum is pointless. Says only thing he can think of is a list stating which would be most useful for town and scum. #113 - Quotes a few of logic's posts he says feel townie. #118 - Tells Wyndz his role is quite powerful if used correctly asks him not to randomly reveal. #120 - Tells Wyndx that if he dies without revealing it doesn't change much. Also he feels there are scarier roles than Peeker and feels it would be a waste to kill him based on that alone. Notes it's interesting he gets a look at how people deal with confirmed town. #121 - Tells Ruu if Rosie is scum then the longer she lives there is a higher chance of the role being played by scum. 50% is a risk he would take as scum late game. #123 - Asks Wyndz why he picked Peeker 3rd #125 - Tells Ruu that we could have to play what if game depending on when Wyndz reveals. #126 - Asks Wyndz if his list is in order of strength or usefulness. #128 - Asks Melanoid their experience and asks them not to lurk. #154 - Tells Crossbell that RE and Zymf asked for Wyndz to reveal and the he doesn't care if Crossbell feels his vote isn't pressuring because he announced it. #156 - Says he gets what zymf means and says it's a good thing he didn't role scum. #159 - Tells Melanoid he picked roles he felt he could get use out of. Says at least Melanoid has minor experience. Says if we lynch Occult egg his target will probably be next in line. Says we will see how things go when Wyndz reveals. #160 -Tells Wyndz he gets where he is coming from and says this game should be more behavioral. Ideally he'd rather Wyndz wait until later to reveal. #162 - Tells logic they see it differently. Shinichi see's it as Town wanting information while logic sees it as possible scum trying to dodge interactions. #165 - Tells logic he put Egg Thrower #7 on his list and thinks it's something the mafia would want. #166 - Tells Melanoid he thinks it would be a waste to protect confirmed town unless they had a powerful role. #168 - Tells wen he is right in his assumption and asks him what the difference between his ovte on Rosie and the votes on the Occult Egg are? #172 - Asks wen where he stated he wanted Rosie's role? #176 - #178 - #179 - #183 - #187 - #192 - #196 - #198 - #203 - #205 - #218 - #219 - #220 - #221 - #227 - #236 - Tells Ruu he's neutral on Zymf. #237 - Asks Abu where he's at. #245 - #246 - |
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May 16, 2017 9:55 AM
#364
WyNdZ said: Is there someone you had in mind? If they haven't posted a lot I might could grab their posts real quick.Analysing previous posts is a much harder task than I imagined.....it would be a lot easier if we could filter all the posts of a particular user. |
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May 16, 2017 10:05 AM
#365
WyNdZ said: Ctrl + f, mark all and then scroll down the pages. Analysing previous posts is a much harder task than I imagined.....it would be a lot easier if we could filter all the posts of a particular user. It's not ideal but it could be plenty worse. |
May 16, 2017 10:11 AM
#366
@WyNdZ why do you have a leaning scum on me? inactivity isn't a good reason and i'm not even inactive anymore |
May 16, 2017 10:29 AM
#367
WyNdZ said: logic340 said: WyNdZ said: Analysing previous posts is a much harder task than I imagined.....it would be a lot easier if we could filter all the posts of a particular user. I actually intended to get an analysis on each and every single person but lol that's too much work to do. I'm currently looking into crossbell and RE1031. Crossbell so far gives me a strong town read although I'm weary of him because I know he's a good player. RE1031's idea of every person posting their list is interesting, I don't think it was something that would bear fruit but still interesting nonetheless. Not something I would expect a mafia to suggest but was it an attempt to divert the discussion towards mechanics? RE1031 also wanted me to reveal the confirmed townie at the start of the game. Crossbell: no analysis but all his posts to #254 #95 - #97 - #99 - #100 - #112 - #129 - #130 - #131 - #201 - #235 - #241 - #242 - #243 - #244 - #247 - #249 - #251 - #253 #254 - |
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May 16, 2017 10:35 AM
#368
WyNdZ said: AbuHumaid said: @WyNdZ why do you have a leaning scum on me? inactivity isn't a good reason and i'm not even inactive anymore Well I disagree that inactivity isn't a good reason. Maybe not a good enough reason to lynch someone but it's a factor. It would be beneficial for the mafia to keep a low profile. The other reasons are that your general disinterest in the beginning such as when you said nothing interesting happened today. It seems like you aren't actively searching for who is mafia. It would be helpful if you tell us your current opinions on the players. Who do you think are town and who do you think are mafia? but i'm active now do i look like i'm trying to lurk? that wasn't disinterest, i genuinely just assumed that we wouldn't say much cause in day 1 we don't have much info, you see i'm not an experienced player so i didn't know how days 1 are like in MS. i can't think of anyone rn other than Melanoid, if he flips town then mafia are doing good at their job, i suspected Zymf too first but when you revealed that he's the confirmed townie he became neutral for me. i believe that after day 1 i will know more |
May 16, 2017 10:44 AM
#369
May 16, 2017 10:46 AM
#370
AbuHumaid said: In slight defense of Abu his most recent game (that he played from the start) was a new player game and had 16 pages by the end of the game. That being said sharing your own thoughts even if others aren't that active would be a good way to get them active. Votes have gotten you active and though I'm not a fan of your defense, it seems honest and in a way I wouldn't expect from mafia. Still neutral but at least I feel like I am starting to get somewhere with you. WyNdZ said: AbuHumaid said: @WyNdZ why do you have a leaning scum on me? inactivity isn't a good reason and i'm not even inactive anymore Well I disagree that inactivity isn't a good reason. Maybe not a good enough reason to lynch someone but it's a factor. It would be beneficial for the mafia to keep a low profile. The other reasons are that your general disinterest in the beginning such as when you said nothing interesting happened today. It seems like you aren't actively searching for who is mafia. It would be helpful if you tell us your current opinions on the players. Who do you think are town and who do you think are mafia? but i'm active now do i look like i'm trying to lurk? that wasn't disinterest, i genuinely just assumed that we wouldn't say much cause in day 1 we don't have much info, you see i'm not an experienced player so i didn't know how days 1 are like in MS. i can't think of anyone rn other than Melanoid, if he flips town then mafia are doing good at their job, i suspected Zymf too first but when you revealed that he's the confirmed townie he became neutral for me. i believe that after day 1 i will know more |
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May 16, 2017 10:47 AM
#371
May 16, 2017 10:49 AM
#372
Crossbell said: Were you going to dive into my town/scum list? Gonna dive into logic's town/scum list tomorrow if I get the time. There are a couple things that make me raise my eyebrows but too tired to fully write them out right now. Rosie said: If you don't have a good read on logic, then why aren't you taking the steps required to get a better read on him? (By asking him questions and seeing if his thought process is cogent)It isn't good because I actually don't have good read on you. You act townie to me regardless if you are scum or town. logic340 said: Read List: Town Lean: yurkin - Has always been town and has been pretty easy for me to read in those games. Very inquisitive and not scared to share their ideas. As RE said her pre-game planning has more of a townie feel than a scum feel. RE1031 - While I don't agree with her position on asking for Wyndz to claim I don't feel it came from a malicious place. Her explanation to Crossbell in #127 doesn't seem to be scum motivated nor do her other pushes for information. Wyndz - I don't know his playstyle at all. I am not seeing anything that sends up any scum markers. Maybe I am just hoping he is town but at this time I feel comfortable with a town lean. Neutral: Zymf - I know he's more of a mechanical player than a behavioral player so the list is NAI for me. I don't like that he wanted Wyndz to reveal right away as it should be up to Wyndz but this too could come from both town and scum. Crossbell - I like his entrance more like the spicy crossbell I am used to but he's got a bunch of catchup posts which aren't alignment indicative but I do remember seeing this the last time he was scum. Needs to see more as he hasn't posted much. Shinichi-kun - Very active which I like but hard to nail down just what his indentations are. This is a read I need to put some more time into. Might ISO him later. Ruu - I feel like I am really good at reading Ruu. I don't like her position on Wyndz train since it's counter to her position last time she was town but that's not enough for me to say she's scum here for certain but I'm leaning that way more than town currently. wen294 - I've never seen his town game. He's being himself from what I can tell but not really leaving an impression either way. Not Enough Information: AbuHumaid - Two posts on saying he's going to be the other a late RVS on Crossbell. I don't mind the vote but the reasoning is sketchy to me. I wouldn't mind placing a vote here since I'm not giving inactives passes like I have in previous gams. Lean scum Oyasumi_Rosie - Pretty active and a lot less fluffy than I am used to. Not sure if this is alignment indicative or not. Her posts are more on topic than usual and while I feel this is a good sign I have to wonder if she's trying to look townie or just taking a more serious approach? Her vote on me is a bit peculiar as she said she sees me being townie which isn't good? Melanoid - I'm not really a fan on their position of lynching Wyndz without looking into behavior first. Risking town for another town doesn't seem very town motivated in my opinion. It may be an ideological difference but those who know me know I don't feel the information is worth it. Edit: Added Shinichi you poked the bear... |
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May 16, 2017 10:51 AM
#373
I'm still walking around Boston and I can't do analysis until after deadline. |
May 16, 2017 10:55 AM
#374
I want to get an extension because I'm selfish and know there's no chance I get here by the deadline. |
May 16, 2017 11:00 AM
#375
Regarding extensions: I'm sorry, I didn't account for a requestable extension in the game rules, the only way this game can be extended is by a player having to be replaced. Sorry for this time but it's something I'll consider adding to MS games in the future. |
May 16, 2017 11:04 AM
#376
WyNdZ said: I mean this is just me summarizing his posts without giving my thoughts on them. No particular post stands out as scummy to me, we have had a few mind melds but that isn't necessarily alignment indicative eiher. He's super active but a lot of one line responses make it hard to gauge motivation. At a glance and off the top of my head I'd probably lean more town than scum but need to take some time and comb through the data.logic340 said: Shinichi: (currently incomplete) #17 - Says Spooky Egg fits him well. #18 - Votes Rosie feels her role and character need some pressure. #21 - Tells RE he doesn't think it's necessary for Wyndz to tell us right away. Also says it may be worse if he is scum. He'd rather wait a couple of phases. #22 - Says his role was 6th on his list. #25 - Tells RE the problem with people revealing their lists is they could lie and they could fake their list. #28 - Asks Ruu what she means by Shinichi wanting to get Rosie's role. He wants to see how she reacts to pressure and how others deal with her. He thinks it's a fair reason to vote for her and says his vote isn't RVS #39 - Tells Ruu he had forgotten that he could take her power says it's a valid argument, though they weren't his intentions. Says he wouldn't point out the role he wanted. #42 - Tell RE she made a fair point that he didn't consider. Everyone will have. #44 - Asks wen if for now we can wait on abusing gimmicks as we have 48 hours. #45 - Says yes he is pressure voting the bomb role. Says he knows how people feel about certain members on MS. Asksme if I didn't say to not let emotion and inactivity keep us from voting who we think are scum in my previous game. #46 - Tell Rosie she could mention grapefruit without voting for him. #50 - Says he came to the same conclusion as me regarding Wyndz revealing who confirmed town is. #51 - Tells Abu sadly in response to him going to bed as soon as the game started. #53 - Tells logic he is town so he isn't scared of Rosie's role. Says that the mafia may slip if they know she is the train that is going to be lynched. #56 - Tell logic pretty much but if everyone tells the truth then we will have gotten nowhere. #63 - Nothing to say about Rosie's Grapefruit lurker comment but a laugh. #68 - Tells Rosie he was not implying that she was scum. Says that her death could be beneficial to town D1 if need be. #74 - Tells Rosie choosing her target at the beginning of the game doesn't make sense. Says that town hasn't won in like 6 games. #75 - Tells Logic that being on Rosie's lynch train is something scum wouldn't want to risk. #82 - Tells Rosie he gets what she is talking about. Choosing role at the beginning of the game not her target. Tells her that her death had nothing to do with town losing it was just one bad step. #84 - Tells Rosie he would rather she not use RNG in general and wants her to put some serious though into her target. #101 - Tells Rosie that it's not the same since there are more town aligned options than scum aligned ones. #102 - Still doesn't agree with knowing the confirmed town at this point but likes Zymf's questions to Wyndz. #103 - Tells logic that he put neighbor at the bottom of his list because he hates the role. #104 - Tells Ruu that Rosie will likely be used for town (if she is town). Says anyone can lead a lynch and that he need to stop pocketing people in general. #105 - Tells Crossbell that depending on how Rosie wants to use her ability we might be able to tell if she is town or scum. Says what is a vote besides pressure. Says that a lot can be gained from who will and wont vote her and how she reacts to it. #106 - Tellls Crossbell people always do it as a game starter and says he believes it was RE. #107 - Says that he wants the mechanics talk to stop. Says he thinks Wyndz train is town and feels Ruu is trying to discredit it. #110 - Tells Rosie meta plus role shouldn't define logic's alignment. Says behaviorally logic is acting townie but it could be pocketing which is his reason for not wanting Wyndz to reveal the townie right now. #111 - Tells Rosie since all the roles are revealed so speculating on which could be town and scum is pointless. Says only thing he can think of is a list stating which would be most useful for town and scum. #113 - Quotes a few of logic's posts he says feel townie. #118 - Tells Wyndz his role is quite powerful if used correctly asks him not to randomly reveal. #120 - Tells Wyndx that if he dies without revealing it doesn't change much. Also he feels there are scarier roles than Peeker and feels it would be a waste to kill him based on that alone. Notes it's interesting he gets a look at how people deal with confirmed town. #121 - Tells Ruu if Rosie is scum then the longer she lives there is a higher chance of the role being played by scum. 50% is a risk he would take as scum late game. #123 - Asks Wyndz why he picked Peeker 3rd #125 - Tells Ruu that we could have to play what if game depending on when Wyndz reveals. #126 - Asks Wyndz if his list is in order of strength or usefulness. #128 - Asks Melanoid their experience and asks them not to lurk. #154 - Tells Crossbell that RE and Zymf asked for Wyndz to reveal and the he doesn't care if Crossbell feels his vote isn't pressuring because he announced it. #156 - Says he gets what zymf means and says it's a good thing he didn't role scum. #159 - Tells Melanoid he picked roles he felt he could get use out of. Says at least Melanoid has minor experience. Says if we lynch Occult egg his target will probably be next in line. Says we will see how things go when Wyndz reveals. #160 -Tells Wyndz he gets where he is coming from and says this game should be more behavioral. Ideally he'd rather Wyndz wait until later to reveal. #162 - Tells logic they see it differently. Shinichi see's it as Town wanting information while logic sees it as possible scum trying to dodge interactions. #165 - Tells logic he put Egg Thrower #7 on his list and thinks it's something the mafia would want. #166 - Tells Melanoid he thinks it would be a waste to protect confirmed town unless they had a powerful role. #168 - Tells wen he is right in his assumption and asks him what the difference between his ovte on Rosie and the votes on the Occult Egg are? #172 - Asks wen where he stated he wanted Rosie's role? #176 - #178 - #179 - #183 - #187 - #192 - #196 - #198 - #203 - #205 - #218 - #219 - #220 - #221 - #227 - #236 - Tells Ruu he's neutral on Zymf. #237 - Asks Abu where he's at. #245 - #246 - Wow you really go all in when it comes to analysing. Lol and this is still incomplete. |
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May 16, 2017 11:10 AM
#378
RE1031 said: 4. If he reveals early (and he's mafia), there's less wriggle room to jump in the defense of a teammate close to being lynched. Highlighting what I said earlier because I think that's what's happening now. @wen294 Yeah sorry about that. When I say unaligned, I mean either town or third party, because they don't know who each other are, whereas mafia do. |
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May 16, 2017 11:16 AM
#379
WyNdZ said: logic340 said: WyNdZ said: logic340 said: WyNdZ said: Is there someone you had in mind? If they haven't posted a lot I might could grab their posts real quick.Analysing previous posts is a much harder task than I imagined.....it would be a lot easier if we could filter all the posts of a particular user. I actually intended to get an analysis on each and every single person but lol that's too much work to do. I'm currently looking into crossbell and RE1031. Crossbell so far gives me a strong town read although I'm weary of him because I know he's a good player. RE1031's idea of every person posting their list is interesting, I don't think it was something that would bear fruit but still interesting nonetheless. Not something I would expect a mafia to suggest but was it an attempt to divert the discussion towards mechanics? RE1031 also wanted me to reveal the confirmed townie at the start of the game. Crossbell: no analysis but all his posts to #254 #95 - #97 - #99 - #100 - #112 - #129 - #130 - #131 - #201 - #235 - #241 - #242 - #243 - #244 - #247 - #249 - #251 - #253 #254 - Thank you. This is interesting, crossbell's start was really good and gave me a town vibe. After that he kind of became less active and didn't really put any pressure on anyone in my opinion. He asked a few questions and he said a few stuff which I agree on but I didn't get the vibe that he was really pressuring anyone. More like he was just making his presence known by asking a few questions. He also jumped onto lynching zymf which is a point to take into consideration. @logic340 - Fair enough, I'll take that point about Abu into consideration. @AbuHumaid- No, I don't think you're lurking anymore. That doesn't mean I consider you town though, I'm feeling sort of neutral about you right now. Crossbell - I like his entrance more like the spicy crossbell I am used to but he's got a bunch of catchup posts which aren't alignment indicative but I do remember seeing this the last time he was scum. Needs to see more as he hasn't posted much. I get a similar feeling as I like his spicy entrance but some of that feeling has been lost due to inactivity. He poked me a bit which I expect him to do as town or scum, but hasn't followed through on it yet imo. He kind of white knighted me D1 of Kitty Mafia saying I was just regular logic, he seems to be a bit more concerned and paranoid here but hasn't pushed enough for me to feel like he's trying to figure me out or to say it's genuine paranoia? Still fairly neutral may take another phase to nail him down (if he gets active).@Shinichi-kun, @Oyasum_Rosie, @RE1031 how would you compare Crossbell's D1 here to Kitty Mafia D1? I am not really getting a similar vibes but I am not liking the lack of activity and catchup posts (which are reminiscent)? |
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May 16, 2017 11:17 AM
#380
Crossbell said: What if I don't actually have any questions to ask though? LolGonna dive into logic's town/scum list tomorrow if I get the time. There are a couple things that make me raise my eyebrows but too tired to fully write them out right now. Rosie said: If you don't have a good read on logic, then why aren't you taking the steps required to get a better read on him? (By asking him questions and seeing if his thought process is cogent)It isn't good because I actually don't have good read on you. You act townie to me regardless if you are scum or town. Its better to keep my vote where its at an wait for information. If I go hunting for it, I might end up giving up more than I end up finding. |
May 16, 2017 11:18 AM
#381
40 minutes and we have four 2 vote trains going on right now. We need to consolidate before we have people jumping votes at the last second. |
Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
May 16, 2017 11:21 AM
#382
logic340 said: @Shinichi-kun, @Oyasum_Rosie, @RE1031 how would you compare Crossbell's D1 here to Kitty Mafia D1? I am not really getting a similar vibes but I am not liking the lack of activity and catchup posts (which are reminiscent)? I think he's being genuine when he says he's catching up, plus seeing as there are overlapping players, I don't think he'd do the same thing twice. Catching up posts are really easy to identify when it comes to scumplay. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
May 16, 2017 11:22 AM
#383
I've been inactive because I am on vacation. I'll try to step it up Day 2, but I was interested as to the reasoning why people were townreading me because I don't think my play has been especially townie thus far. Let me look at this votal. |
May 16, 2017 11:23 AM
#384
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Sorry what?Crossbell said: What if I don't actually have any questions to ask though? LolGonna dive into logic's town/scum list tomorrow if I get the time. There are a couple things that make me raise my eyebrows but too tired to fully write them out right now. Rosie said: It isn't good because I actually don't have good read on you. You act townie to me regardless if you are scum or town. Its better to keep my vote where its at an wait for information. If I go hunting for it, I might end up giving up more than I end up finding. If you're town you don't HAVE any information you could end up giving. Only scum can. Vote change: Oyasumi_Rosie |
May 16, 2017 11:27 AM
#385
logic340 said: So basically you read me as neutral and you are willing to vote for me because you don't have a good read on me? Ruu says that I am playing similar to Sailor Moon when she was scum with me. You were in that game do you feel I am exhibiting those signs or was I regular logic there as well? I'll say here what I said there. I got lucky when I voted for you, and I feel most comfortable voting for you now. |
May 16, 2017 11:31 AM
#386
RE1031 said: Fair enough. I think in these terms often (see CP kitty mafia). It would be crazy to do the same thing right in front of people who caught you doing it before. You were the only one who saw threw him with me so I put a little more credence on this response.logic340 said: @Shinichi-kun, @Oyasum_Rosie, @RE1031 how would you compare Crossbell's D1 here to Kitty Mafia D1? I am not really getting a similar vibes but I am not liking the lack of activity and catchup posts (which are reminiscent)? I think he's being genuine when he says he's catching up, plus seeing as there are overlapping players, I don't think he'd do the same thing twice. Catching up posts are really easy to identify when it comes to scumplay. |
Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
May 16, 2017 11:33 AM
#387
Oyasumi_Rosie said: I definitely understand where you are coming from. Just wish you would look at other options. Not sure what your take on most other players is at the moment and you're neutral on me. We have 4 trains with 2 people on them so what are your thoughts on the other 3 trains? What are your thoughts on Crossbell so far? logic340 said: So basically you read me as neutral and you are willing to vote for me because you don't have a good read on me? Ruu says that I am playing similar to Sailor Moon when she was scum with me. You were in that game do you feel I am exhibiting those signs or was I regular logic there as well? I'll say here what I said there. I got lucky when I voted for you, and I feel most comfortable voting for you now. |
Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
May 16, 2017 11:33 AM
#388
π« Vote Count 1.8 π« π₯ π₯ AbuHumaid π₯ π₯ (2): π° melanoid, Zymf π° π₯ π₯ WyNdZ π₯ π₯ (2): π° yurkin, RE1031 π° π₯ π₯ logic340 π₯ π₯ (2): π° Oyasumi_Rosie, Ruu π° π₯ π₯ Melanoid π₯ π₯ (2): π° logic340, WyNdZ π° π£ Oyasumi_Rosie π£ (1): π° wen294 π° π± Not Voting π± Shinichi-kun, AbuHumaid, Crossbell π€ Role Index π€ Camoflagued Egg [Watcher] - Crossbell Fullmetal Egg [Jailer] - Zymf Golden Egg [Lightning Rod] - AbuHumaid Explosive Egg [Bomb] - Oyasumi_Rosie Occult Egg [Peeker] - Wyndz Duckling Egg [Neighborizerr] - Logic340 Sparkling Egg [Reloader] - Yurkin Royal Egg [Doublevoter] - Re1031 Spooky Egg [Amnesiac] - Shinichi-kun Decorative Egg [Artist] - wen294 Oeuf Suprême [Chef] - melanoid Green Egg and Ham [Egg Thrower] - Ruu >>Day 1 Timer<< |
May 16, 2017 11:33 AM
#389
logic340 said: @Oyasumi_Rosie - Do you have any town reads currently. Crossbell says your fluff level is the same do you feel like he is slandering you or am I reading you incorrectly in that regard? Nope, no real town reads yet. Not that I would trust them even if I did. My fluff is my serious play. I am playing very seriously now. >:3c All this being said, I much as I find Melanoid a bit suspicious right now, I don't like how people are voting for them when they are not here to defend themselves. Gives me vibes from a certain game with felines in it. That also being said, I double check their role, and it would be one worth losing. People can do what they want, and we will go from there. |
May 16, 2017 11:34 AM
#390
logic340 said: WyNdZ said: Is there someone you had in mind? If they haven't posted a lot I might could grab their posts real quick.Analysing previous posts is a much harder task than I imagined.....it would be a lot easier if we could filter all the posts of a particular user. @WyNdZ ctrl+F user name is the best way to do that |
May 16, 2017 11:35 AM
#391
WyNdZ said: RE1031 said: RE1031 said: 4. If he reveals early (and he's mafia), there's less wriggle room to jump in the defense of a teammate close to being lynched. Highlighting what I said earlier because I think that's what's happening now. I revealed the information when zymf had 3 votes and maybe like 12 hours left. Abu who was inactive had 2 votes. It was not like zymf was really close to being lynched but more so that I felt we were heading in the wrong direction with the two people with the most votes being a townie and an inactive. If there's 3 mafias then I'm sure if necessary they could manipulate the votes to make zymf not get lynched. That would raise suspicion but my point being 3 votes is not an extremely close to being lynched scenario for a mafia especially when someone else who was inactive had 2 votes already without either zymf or my votes on him Also I'd basically be suiciding if zymf was lynched or if I was lynched zymf would likely be lynched next You have to understand that it's super fishy. There are 12 players, and Zymf, who is getting scum read, just happens to be the name you got? I don't buy it. Yes it's risky, but if you can protect your buddy, it's worth it. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
May 16, 2017 11:36 AM
#392
WyNdZ said: I was just saying the same thing.....Okay guys, we've got less than 30 minutes and we're kind of stuck in a deadlock. This is the worst case scenario. logic340 said: 40 minutes and we have four 2 vote trains going on right now. We need to consolidate before we have people jumping votes at the last second. |
Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
May 16, 2017 11:38 AM
#393
Vote: Melanoid He voted on me for being inactive even though he himself is inactive |
May 16, 2017 11:38 AM
#394
wen294 said: Lol you are so silly. Are you forgetting that there is a hidden aspect about my role that I could be giving away?Oyasumi_Rosie said: Sorry what?Crossbell said: Gonna dive into logic's town/scum list tomorrow if I get the time. There are a couple things that make me raise my eyebrows but too tired to fully write them out right now. Rosie said: If you don't have a good read on logic, then why aren't you taking the steps required to get a better read on him? (By asking him questions and seeing if his thought process is cogent)It isn't good because I actually don't have good read on you. You act townie to me regardless if you are scum or town. Its better to keep my vote where its at an wait for information. If I go hunting for it, I might end up giving up more than I end up finding. If you're town you don't HAVE any information you could end up giving. Only scum can. Vote change: Oyasumi_Rosie Though when I wrote this, I wasn't thinking about this game. Just another one where a slip caused town to lose the game. Is this your slip? :3c |
May 16, 2017 11:39 AM
#395
Also, given that votes are really spread out, would anyone take that as one of the trains is on mafia? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
May 16, 2017 11:40 AM
#396
Ruu said: I am so sorry to hear that. I will be sending you positive thoughts and energy. Wishing you all the best, I'm here if you need me. my grandpa just died. I won't be active during D1 and N1 probably. |
Proud Administrator of the D Gray Man FC and OnePunch-Man FC |
May 16, 2017 11:41 AM
#397
logic340 said: Crossbell is the worst kind of lurker because he always as an excuse for it. I didn't see your question at me before because the @ didn't work right, but I got no feelings from him, worst than a netural.Oyasumi_Rosie said: I definitely understand where you are coming from. Just wish you would look at other options. Not sure what your take on most other players is at the moment and you're neutral on me. We have 4 trains with 2 people on them so what are your thoughts on the other 3 trains? What are your thoughts on Crossbell so far? logic340 said: So basically you read me as neutral and you are willing to vote for me because you don't have a good read on me? Ruu says that I am playing similar to Sailor Moon when she was scum with me. You were in that game do you feel I am exhibiting those signs or was I regular logic there as well? I'll say here what I said there. I got lucky when I voted for you, and I feel most comfortable voting for you now. And I am. We need a kill no matter what, so I am willing to change my vote to Melanoid if no one else does. Like I said before, they have a role worth losing. (sorry Mela!! No hard feelings alright?) |
May 16, 2017 11:43 AM
#398
@oyasumi_rosie #416 Which game? just asking is it again the infamous kitty mafia lol |
May 16, 2017 11:44 AM
#399
π« Vote Count 1.9 π« π₯ π₯ Melanoid π₯ π₯ (3): π° logic340, WyNdZ, AbuHumaid π° π£ AbuHumaid π£ (2): π° melanoid, Zymf π° π£ WyNdZ π£ (2): π° yurkin, RE1031 π° π£ logic340 π£ (2): π° Oyasumi_Rosie, Ruu π° π£ Oyasumi_Rosie π£ (1): π° wen294 π° π± Not Voting π± Shinichi-kun, Crossbell π€ Role Index π€ Camoflagued Egg [Watcher] - Crossbell Fullmetal Egg [Jailer] - Zymf Golden Egg [Lightning Rod] - AbuHumaid Explosive Egg [Bomb] - Oyasumi_Rosie Occult Egg [Peeker] - Wyndz Duckling Egg [Neighborizerr] - Logic340 Sparkling Egg [Reloader] - Yurkin Royal Egg [Doublevoter] - Re1031 Spooky Egg [Amnesiac] - Shinichi-kun Decorative Egg [Artist] - wen294 Oeuf Suprême [Chef] - melanoid Green Egg and Ham [Egg Thrower] - Ruu >>Day 1 Timer<< |
TogsMay 16, 2017 11:53 AM
May 16, 2017 11:45 AM
#400
If we can't come to agreement, I don't entirely mind voting for Melanoid. If he does flip scum, then I'll probably drop my suspicions of WyNdZ and Zymf. If he flips town... Well I know who I'll be voting for tomorrow. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
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