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PentaFlare said:
I decided to do an ISO read of grapefruit (up until the end of day 1) since I had a vote on them but didn't have a strong impression of them day 1. I just didn't really notice them because my thoughts were elsewhere. I'm not going to write a detailed post about everything because I actually took notes with pencil and paper, but I'm going to highlight the most important things.

I'm surprised I didn't have a strong impression of grape on day 1 because looking back, I've found a wide variety of scumtells. Not just one, but multiple different scumtells. I'll give a little explanation of each.

First is a tonal scumtell in regards to grape's view of grrr. For most of the phase, grape is very focused on the idea of scum!grrr and is very confident in their scumread. In fact, in posts like #496, grape is treating grrr like you would treat confirmed scum. However, in #212, there is a sudden shift of tone that only lasts for this post (and one extra sentence in #194, but #212 highlights it better). Grape is saying that this one thing they have been going at grrr's throat all phase for is a "low impact offense" but is scummy only because everything else is mostly fluff. This tonal change is really scummy, because it shows that grape doesn't actually have a strong scumread on grrr, but are trying really hard to make grrr appear scummy. A town member would have a consistent tone towards a person, either really strong or more moderate, but grape doesn't. A read can change, but it would do so in a directed manner, whereas grape didn't start to back off after this softer post, just went back to going hard at grrr. It's a slip of grape's actual knowledge that the case on grrr is fake.

Another scumtell I have picked up on are their hyperbolic reads. Grape is waaay too fast to give someone a scumread or a townread. This isn't related to early game where they came up with FOS on Qoco and grrr and two small townreads. Grape said those were weak. What I'm referring to is later on when grape will get a really strong read off just one thing. For example, their read on logic. Grape said that logic's case on Lamby "screamed town" (#493. The loaded diction implies heavy confidence and that the read should be obvious to anyone. However, this isn't justified. Grape is basing this read off meta, which can give townreads, but is never enough to instantly read someone as town off one case. This is a scummy read because someone who knows who is town easily sees town motive in everything they do, especially when referring to meta. They know that this is their town game, so they relate it subconsciously to their other town games. Meta is the easiest way to catch scum giving a townread too fast.

The third scumtell is that grape is focused so much on asking really easy questions and not analyzing much. Post #500 is a great example of a whole bunch of really easy questions that don't take a lot of critical thinking to come up with. grape is keeping busy by asking a bunch of easy questions to keep the appearance of generating information, but isn't taking the step of analyzing the information they have been working to produce and condensing it into reads. The first part is what every player who isn't super familiar with playing scum thinks is most important to appear to do because it is "hunting" for information, but it is the second that reveals if they are actually trying to find scum. Grape makes reads, but looking at each of them, I haven't found signs of critical thinking outside of post #496 (linked earlier) where there is a meta comparison for logic which isn't enough to support the strength of the read on logic, and is meta, which is the easiest analysis to fake. The read on grrr has nothing. It is IIoA. Grape focuses on statements like "grrr is trying to find information about PRs" instead of analysis. Also, look at the vote on grrr (#174). It is awwwwwful. A bunch of neutral statements and questions to grrr, then a vote out of the blue with not explanation.

Finally, and this one mostly explains itself, grape has been fudding a little here and there. Especially #496 in the way they paint grrr as a bane to town and completely untrustworthy with emotional appeal, which is often scummy rhetoric when another person is the subject. This is the weakest, but add it to everything here, and jeez. There is so much scum mindset visible everywhere.

So, although my original vote for grapefruit had nothing to do with them and everything to do with grrr, it is now sticking, and it has everything to do with grape.