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DenjaX said:
1 shot

PentaFlare said:

Oh. Okay. Is it something you would be willing to say if you are going to use it before hand?

DenjaX said:
I don't know what you mean but I have a plan on how I am going to play my role.

logic340 said:
Given Grapefruit's behavior those actions could be scum night actions thought. I am not for lynching him off but at least sharing thoughts as he progresses could give us a little bit of an understanding of what he's thinking. He's full Rinto mode at the moment. he's farther along then Kit and has shared much less. Not sure how I feel about that?

Jackrito said:


Well yeah they could be I spend half of today voting them to get interactions to see if they act scummy. The lack of posting is a bad sign I agree but let us see where this goes

DenjaX said:
English is not my first language. I asked because I need to clarify.

EDIT: also, I don't see how is it strange.

logic340 said:
@PentaFlare can you run your algorithm with Shinichi and grrr as confirmed town?

logic340 said:


It seems tome we are all willing to accept Shinichi and grrr as town at this point so here is an updated Vote Count. I am still not sure what to make of it so I would love for others to weigh in given their position.

Jackrito said:


It comes off as strange to me because it looks like look at me I'm scumhunting because I say I am. It is a big issue I have when people try to force a image. Not really scummy to most but is to me since it is not natural.

PentaFlare said:

Not right now. I don't have the brainpower. You can though if you want.

Since we don't have any scum flips, you can simplify it to this:
Look at each train. Divide the number of players on that train by the number of players alive during that vote count. Multiply this score by the number of scum you think are in the game (I've been using 3 but it could be 4). This is the score for that train. Divide this score up among each player who isn't confirmed town on that train. Repeat with each train. I usually do it with all the final vote counts, adding together the scores each player got from each day. If you wanted to be super zealous, you could do it with all vote counts.

Finally, I just multiplied everything by 100 and rounded to the nearest whole number. No decimals that way.

I think that should be everything.

Jackrito said:


Grape looks really bad for been on a solo vote 2 times and 1 he was not was done early before much pressure. Same cam be said of the lamb slot Me Chione and Dono look real bad as well.

logic340 said:
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Thoughts:
#263 - I hate everything about his post first of all just because you or I may consider something useless doesn't mean other share that view. So using that as an argument (I may be guilty of this myself) stands out to me here. It's her own personal bias and nothing that acutually makes Ruu scummy. The other part of this that she is on Ruu about her vote on Lucian while she agrees with Jack's vote? Is there something wrong with voting Lucian or is it just Ruu in general? Is it her reason? Which doesn't make sense to me since she's cool with Jack's vote? This post just feels wrong on levels.

That subjective cause some posts or plays can actually be shitty lol, but that shouldnt be a reason to put down someones effort. Also I disagree ruu was acting scummy and just less townlike than usual and i also dont find it weird for someone to vote A but talk about B. Only issue i have here is the somewhat obvious biasness towards ruu maybe?

#273 - Seems like she is scum reading Ruu here, especially after #263.

Honesttly chione wording confuses me lol so she thinks in general its useless but she herself doesnt think its useless?

#285 - Not sure why Penta and Karote's votes would be off-putting if she is scum reading Ruu as hard as she appears to be in #263?

Should could be like jack but insteading of questioning the town read shes wondering why others are also scum reading the same target as her?

#288 - She may not have questioned it directly but she made it look bad in #273 while talking to aa so not sure why she wasn't expecting an explanation given what she said about the length of time the vote had been there. (Note she hasn't mentioned anything about Karote's vote sitting on Ruu). Also if she isn't town reading Lucian in this post then why is she so worried about Ruu moving her vote off Lucian? Feels like I'm being nitpicky but it's an observation.

Honestly its kinda weird because you would think u would give some town cred to ruu for being on lucian, but instead she considers it an easy route. Though if its an easy route that normally leaves the possiblity of the person being voted to be town most definintly.

#667 - Takes a very strong stand on grrr. Not sure if she would white knight grrr of all people this early in the game. Not a strong tell by any means but I like it.

Honestly no one should be town reading grrr at that point it should be neutral or scum read. Though its obvious now that grrr is town so i dont think this says much.

#2120 - Says she needs to question Qoco more lets see if that happens?

Qoco can question himself better than others can it seems haha

#2126 - Asks Qoco for a read list much like she's asked other.

She has to keep up the facade, but honestly the question itself is pretty generic and i feel like she hasnt actually got anything from all those simple read lists unless she is hiding something from the town.

#2931 - Does scum Coelestin bring this type of attention to herself when the scum team is doing so well? I don't see it I think this is a townie post?

This post got me concerned too i mean it had to be done, i just dont like the fact that of all the people to bring it up it was one of the people part of the problem in the first place. Its like now that she cant scum read me she is moving onto her town reads.

#2939 - Unless this is an attempt to distract from her scum teammates I feel like this is a fairly townie action. We need to stir up conversation and touch new topics.

I just wanna see what she says about her role after i called her out.

There are so many posts but these are a few highlights you all can find some of your own.
Aside from the stretch #263-#288 (which could just be me overreacting) I don't really see anything that I feel I scummy . She set off my scum radar big time in TGT but I couldn't articulate it and I am just not feeling those vibes here. I would give her a town read off this and I am open to any questions about it. Sorry my summary is so small but it took a lot of time so due as questions if you question my conclusion.

Jackrito said:


I can not believe that you said here you think they are town, but still want them dead, just because a slot is questionable does not mean we kill it should we do same to Kit. We vig a role we think is scummy not one we think is town.

Jackrito said:


Kits slot is probs the same amount of post level as that one, no offense to Kit there more the people she replaced. I don't think Sleipnirr is town atm and lack of posts is bad, but I don't like winning off modkills if we are right

logic340 said:
How do Qoco's votes look to you?

DenjaX said:
1 shot

Shinichi-Kun said:


Is it as powerful as my ability?

logic340 said:


It seems tome we are all willing to accept Shinichi and grrr as town at this point so here is an updated Vote Count. I am still not sure what to make of it so I would love for others to weigh in given their position.

logic340 said:
How do these questions about Denja's role help you discern his alignment?

Shinichi-Kun said:
Simple someone said it before but town have alot of powerful abilities so its safe to say scum have 1 or 2 strong abilities too surpisngly there isnt a roleblocker it seems.

DenjaX said:
Btw, anyone watched the anime?

Are the flips make sense of the role they have?

DenjaX said:
According to NAR, Lightning Rod can be stopped by Roleblocker but I did not disclose it at the time in case a mafia roleblocker gets any funny ideas.

Since the ability went through, it could be:
1. There is no mafia roleblocker
2. Mafia thought that they cannot roleblock Lightning Rod and targeted someone else.
3. The mafia roleblocker is inactive.

I believe number 1 more because Roleblocker goes first so he coulda roleblocked grrr if he can and Shinichi would die.

Shinichi-Kun said:


she stated they aren't related to the anime what so ever

DenjaX said:
Kit is at least not inactive so she wont be modkilled. I don't think you see my analogy here. Obviously we can't control modkills and I said that modkill is like vig kill.

But yeah, I shouldn't be too hard on the slot. @Sleipnirr it would be nice if you can catch up if you can.

DenjaX said:
Nah. This is too tedious. Grape/Sleipnirr should be modkilled so that we wont waste to kill him.

Shinichi-Kun said:


she stated they aren't related to the anime what so ever

Kit said:
You realize sleip is actually reading the beginning of the game whereas I have not been, right? That's why my activity seems higher than his. I doubt he'll get modkilled

logic340 said:
Have you seen the anime? Does this actually answer the question he asked?

Also I think she mean alignment wise because my flavor fits nicely and is sick tight.

Shinichi-Kun said:
@denjax

8. Character ability in game does not necessarily match their anime counterpart.

Sleipnirr said:
What are you talking about I am not inactive I am backreading I am even posting bookmarks about at which page I currently am. (Currently at 43 btw) I dont wanna be modkilled as soon as I repped in and I think that host would would understand that and would not kill me without even warning me.

logic340 said:
@Sleipnirr can you please share some thought on what you have read up to where you currently are?

Shinichi-Kun said:
denjax

8. Character ability in game does not necessarily match their anime counterpart.

logic340 said:


It seems tome we are all willing to accept Shinichi and grrr as town at this point so here is an updated Vote Count. I am still not sure what to make of it so I would love for others to weigh in given their position.

logic340 said:
I definitely agree, not really inclined to give benefit of the doubt at this point, but I am admittedly in awe of this guys late town game. Never seen his late scum game thought so it might be wicked scary?

Kit said:
Wow, looking at only votes and assuming 4 scum, based on spread, this really makes it look like the team is Qoco, Penta, Denja(lamb), and Sleip(grape) to me as those 4 never voted together.

Why did penta not vote on day 2?

DenjaX said:
Since we are the bad apples of the bunch, wanna work together on some stuff? A fresh perspective would a nice pace of change.

Kit said:
Wow, looking at only votes and assuming 4 scum, based on spread, this really makes it look like the team is Qoco, Penta, Denja(lamb), and Sleip(grape) to me as those 4 never voted together.

Why did penta not vote on day 2?

Sleipnirr said:
@Denjax umm dont you ever back read? When I am backreading I always have a tab open at the first page, the page I am currently reading and the latest page incase someone asks me a question or if there is a question I want to ask someone about to current events. If you just back read without looking at the latest page you might just waste your time or there might be something important that could change the way you back read. Anyway in the next post I will continue from where I left off last post.

Shinichi-Kun said:


LOL me and sleip play the catch up game the same way it seems.

Sleipnirr said:
Sadly I know that shinichi is inheritor and confirmed lightning Rod. This put me in a really bad spot because in order to catch up as efficient as possible I tend to skip some long posts like jacks and logic's. Not in the way that I did not read them but read them too quickly that only some minor details left impression on me. So in the players I paid attention to shinichi is a no go and all of logic's post seemed townie. I am not gonna lie logic town read might be biased as I never saw a scum logic anway so there is only penta and jack left in my possible to be scum list and honestly I am still trying to figure out whoch one might be the scum penta seem more likely but most of jacks posts seemed to repeat itself.

logic340 said:
Do you catch up the same when scum as you do when town? I find one thing off about #3194 but I'll keep it to myself for now (because I may be making more of it than it really is).