DenjaX said: You're in for quite the wild ride. I am very interested in seeing who you tickle first. This is a weird entrance. Why did I have to rep during night phase? xDD Btw, I am still on page 8 so I will provide as much info as I can before they kill me prematurely. |
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| I am town in case of lie detector on the loose. @logic340 claiming that you are mafia for the lie detector can confirm whether you are one or not. However, it won't prove that you are town and you might be TPR. So that is why claiming town is optimal. Example: logic(town) claims mafia -> Lie detect result: Logic is lying logic(TPR) claims mafia -> Lie detect result: Logic is lying. |
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DenjaX said: Unless there are multiple TPR's in this game the mafia took Purity last nightI am town in case of lie detector on the loose. @logic340 claiming that you are mafia for the lie detector can confirm whether you are one or not. However, it won't prove that you are town and you might be TPR. So that is why claiming town is optimal. Example: logic(town) claims mafia -> Lie detect result: Logic is lying logic(TPR) claims mafia -> Lie detect result: Logic is lying. |
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logic340 said: We can't assume that because this game closed set-up. Why don't you try claiming? If you are town, there is nothing to be scared about claiming town. I am on page 8 and I still don't see you claim town.Unless there are multiple TPR's in this game the mafia took Purity last night Are you town? :3 |
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grrr said: It is very late for karote. Not sure about penta. How did you know |
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DenjaX said: yes l'm townlogic340 said: We can't assume that because this game closed set-up. Why don't you try claiming? If you are town, there is nothing to be scared about claiming town. I am on page 8 and I still don't see you claim town.Unless there are multiple TPR's in this game the mafia took Purity last night Are you town? :3 |
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logic340 said: I find it interesting that the two people with the biggest questions surrounding them (Karote and Penta) are suddenly MIA after the phase. Maybe irl but I don't like it. They have questions to answer imo. You are trying waaaaaaaaay too hard to paint me as scum. This is ridiculous. Do you even realize this? |
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| I don't understand how you don't get this logic. Hider will not give results if targeted with investigation but also won't give a roleblock message. It is the only role that works like this. It is so easy to prove. That's why I wasn't willing to lynch a claimed hider. Since it turns out that Karote was lying, which I didn't have any reason to believe at the time, they can now eat rope. |
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PentaFlare said: Karote claimed Jason Statham instead but his role claim is still easily proven, nevertheless.I don't understand how you don't get this logic. Hider will not give results if targeted with investigation but also won't give a roleblock message. It is the only role that works like this. It is so easy to prove. That's why I wasn't willing to lynch a claimed hider. Since it turns out that Karote was lying, which I didn't have any reason to believe at the time, they can now eat rope. |
DenjaX said: PentaFlare said: Karote claimed Jason Statham instead but his role claim is still easily proven, nevertheless.I don't understand how you don't get this logic. Hider will not give results if targeted with investigation but also won't give a roleblock message. It is the only role that works like this. It is so easy to prove. That's why I wasn't willing to lynch a claimed hider. Since it turns out that Karote was lying, which I didn't have any reason to believe at the time, they can now eat rope. Not really. Transporter is such a gimmicky role that it is really hard to prove. So many factors are involved that there is no easy way to prove it and scum can make up whatever they want to make the claim believable. |
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PentaFlare said: You did a great job of doing it to yourself with your actions EoD don't try to shift the focus to me. logic340 said: I find it interesting that the two people with the biggest questions surrounding them (Karote and Penta) are suddenly MIA after the phase. Maybe irl but I don't like it. They have questions to answer imo. You are trying waaaaaaaaay too hard to paint me as scum. This is ridiculous. Do you even realize this? |
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logic340 said: PentaFlare said: You did a great job of doing it to yourself with your actions EoD don't try to shift the focus to me. You are trying waaaaaaaaay too hard to paint me as scum. This is ridiculous. Do you even realize this? You are just throeing so much dirt my way without providing a single scum motivation for anything I have done. |
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PentaFlare said: Why did you have reason to believe his claim? There was no reason for that either imo. I do understand now that the role has been explained to me. Why are you so defensive while I'm trying to understand what is going on around me? Like I just watched my top town read have 4 people jump on him for the pettiest of reason right now. I don't understand how you don't get this logic. Hider will not give results if targeted with investigation but also won't give a roleblock message. It is the only role that works like this. It is so easy to prove. That's why I wasn't willing to lynch a claimed hider. Since it turns out that Karote was lying, which I didn't have any reason to believe at the time, they can now eat rope. |
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PentaFlare said: Karote said: Sorry, I'm not Hider, I'm Transporter, lol. I can switch with A > B and vice versa. Can do it on myself too. Nothing. Now I'm happy I tipped it in your favour. Enjoy your rope. Sigh. Shinichi-Kun said: Karote said: Sorry, I'm not Hider, I'm Transporter, lol. I can switch with A > B and vice versa. Can do it on myself too. Nothing. why lie lol It had weird role name and abilities were similar to Hider, so that's what came in mind. Didn't meant to lie. I said Jackrito with myself. |
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logic340 said: @Karote did you miss this or are you just ignoring me? @Shinichi this is the shit I am talking about. I ask questions they go unanswered. I am so tired of this shit for real. I answered you, man. |
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Karote said: Hearing this makes me sick as fuck right now....Sigh. It had weird role name and abilities were similar to Hider, so that's what came in mind. Didn't meant to lie. I said Jackrito with myself. I don't know what to think really. Especially because you admitted to lying. |
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PentaFlare said: Not really. Transporter is such a gimmicky role that it is really hard to prove. So many factors are involved that there is no easy way to prove it and scum can make up whatever they want to make the claim believable. Well we could have vig(if there is any) shoot Karote and Karote will swap with whoever he is suspicious of. If we get a mafia flip, that means mafia shot mafia. Otherwise, vig can also attest and claim that he shot Karote but he did not die. I really like Transporter roles because they can be very powerful if used properly. I enjoyed it on Terms of Service and the previous game that I played here. |
Karote said: I see that now, look at the time stamp don't act l like you answered a long time ago. Not really in the mood for that. logic340 said: @Karote did you miss this or are you just ignoring me? @Shinichi this is the shit I am talking about. I ask questions they go unanswered. I am so tired of this shit for real. I answered you, man. |
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logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Why did you have reason to believe his claim? There was no reason for that either imo. I do understand now that the role has been explained to me. Why are you so defensive while I'm trying to understand what is going on around me? Like I just watched my top town read have 4 people jump on him for the pettiest of reason right now. I don't understand how you don't get this logic. Hider will not give results if targeted with investigation but also won't give a roleblock message. It is the only role that works like this. It is so easy to prove. That's why I wasn't willing to lynch a claimed hider. Since it turns out that Karote was lying, which I didn't have any reason to believe at the time, they can now eat rope. Why would I not believe a claim that can be proven before the next day phase even starts? It's easy to say in retrospect that it isn't believable since we now know Karote is lying, but this is the first time I have ever seen someone do that in a role madness game. The claim fit everything I would look for in a town aligned claim. I'm extremely annoyed at you right now because you brought up my activity which is clearly irrelevant to my alignment. Why in the world would me taking a break from the thread to clear my thoughts after a major screw up have to do with my alignment!? Also, don't you think that you should ask me my reasons for voting Jack instead of assuming? You want to figure out the thread? Try to put yourself in my position. Looks like I didn't take a long enough break. Need more cool down time. |
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PentaFlare said: Why don't you tell me what was your motivation? Like I can go make a case real quick it's nothing (but it's night phase I am emotional and i'd reather wait until I have a clear mind).logic340 said: You did a great job of doing it to yourself with your actions EoD don't try to shift the focus to me. You are just throeing so much dirt my way without providing a single scum motivation for anything I have done. Karote's play is not Pro-Town so how you just believe his claim is beyond me. @Karote why did you choose Jack last night? |
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DenjaX said: PentaFlare said: Not really. Transporter is such a gimmicky role that it is really hard to prove. So many factors are involved that there is no easy way to prove it and scum can make up whatever they want to make the claim believable. Well we could have vig(if there is any) shoot Karote and Karote will swap with whoever he is suspicious of. If we get a mafia flip, that means mafia shot mafia. Otherwise, vig can also attest and claim that he shot Karote but he did not die. I really like Transporter roles because they can be very powerful if used properly. I enjoyed it on Terms of Service and the previous game that I played here. Btw, Transporter can be a mafia role. |
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logic340 said: I see that now, look at the time stamp don't act l like you answered a long time ago. Not really in the mood for that. Kay, my bad. logic340 said: Karote said: Hearing this makes me sick as fuck right now....Sigh. It had weird role name and abilities were similar to Hider, so that's what came in mind. Didn't meant to lie. I said Jackrito with myself. I don't know what to think really. Especially because you admitted to lying. No, I made a mistake. Argh, I don't want to explain, just be mad at me. |
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PentaFlare said: Maybe I am stupid but I don't know jack about Hider so explain it so me like I am a 5 year old please. How can they be easily verified? logic340 said: Why did you have reason to believe his claim? There was no reason for that either imo. I do understand now that the role has been explained to me. Why are you so defensive while I'm trying to understand what is going on around me? Like I just watched my top town read have 4 people jump on him for the pettiest of reason right now. Why would I not believe a claim that can be proven before the next day phase even starts? It's easy to say in retrospect that it isn't believable since we now know Karote is lying, but this is the first time I have ever seen someone do that in a role madness game. The claim fit everything I would look for in a town aligned claim. I'm extremely annoyed at you right now because you brought up my activity which is clearly irrelevant to my alignment. Why in the world would me taking a break from the thread to clear my thoughts after a major screw up have to do with my alignment!? Also, don't you think that you should ask me my reasons for voting Jack instead of assuming? You want to figure out the thread? Try to put yourself in my position. Looks like I didn't take a long enough break. Need more cool down time. I Know you don't just jump vote like that so no I don't feel like I should have to ask you Should have given your reason when you did. Your motivation as I said was saving Karote. That is pretty clear to me. Explain how it wasn't? Why did you vote Jack sinde you asked me to ask instead of just telling everyone. I am so hot right now I hope you eat a bullet tonight. Get on me about talking No lynch D1 then you cause it D2 DAFUQ you talking bout man. I am going to step away. Fire will not stop coming off this keyboard right now. If you both are town you both got a lot of making up to do D3 |
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PentaFlare said: You should have just lynched him we wouldn't be talking about this right now would we?DenjaX said: Well we could have vig(if there is any) shoot Karote and Karote will swap with whoever he is suspicious of. If we get a mafia flip, that means mafia shot mafia. Otherwise, vig can also attest and claim that he shot Karote but he did not die. I really like Transporter roles because they can be very powerful if used properly. I enjoyed it on Terms of Service and the previous game that I played here. Btw, Transporter can be a mafia role. ............. |
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logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Why don't you tell me what was your motivation? Like I can go make a case real quick it's nothing (but it's night phase I am emotional and i'd reather wait until I have a clear mind).You are just throeing so much dirt my way without providing a single scum motivation for anything I have done. Karote's play is not Pro-Town so how you just believe his claim is beyond me. @Karote why did you choose Jack last night? In case mafia were to kill Jack, then I would die instead. I read him as town at the time but I don't anymore. |
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Karote said: Really bad time to be making that type of mistake. Like for real idk, your play never screams town and now this compounds the issue. Why didn't you ever do a read list for Coelestin? Can you do one now? Like not now but right now?logic340 said: I see that now, look at the time stamp don't act l like you answered a long time ago. Not really in the mood for that. Kay, my bad. logic340 said: Hearing this makes me sick as fuck right now.... I don't know what to think really. Especially because you admitted to lying. No, I made a mistake. Argh, I don't want to explain, just be mad at me. |
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Karote said: Care to explain why not so much anymore? Like give some details some examples of why you did earlier but do not now. Like I just don't believe a word you are saying but I will try to suspend my disbelief just incase you are telling the truth here. logic340 said: Why don't you tell me what was your motivation? Like I can go make a case real quick it's nothing (but it's night phase I am emotional and i'd reather wait until I have a clear mind). Karote's play is not Pro-Town so how you just believe his claim is beyond me. @Karote why did you choose Jack last night? In case mafia were to kill Jack, then I would die instead. I read him as town at the time but I don't anymore. |
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logic340 said: Really bad time to be making that type of mistake. Like for real idk, your play never screams town and now this compounds the issue. Why didn't you ever do a read list for Coelestin? Can you do one now? Like not now but right now? I wasn't confident in my reads enough to do one yet. It's almost 4 AM for me, I'm hitting the bed but I'll do it when I wake up or bit later. |
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logic340 said: Karote said: Care to explain why not so much anymore? Like give some details some examples of why you did earlier but do not now. Like I just don't believe a word you are saying but I will try to suspend my disbelief just incase you are telling the truth here. In case mafia were to kill Jack, then I would die instead. I read him as town at the time but I don't anymore. Uhh, for example he complains about how no one pursues their scum reads but he doesn't either, only at almost end of the phase reveals his suspects. Qoco has a point there about Jack. |
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DenjaX said: Qoco said: Eyy Hydrus my boi. Check your scum club. I replaced your godfather.I am not happy. Luke. I am the godfather. |
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Karote said: logic340 said: Care to explain why not so much anymore? Like give some details some examples of why you did earlier but do not now. Like I just don't believe a word you are saying but I will try to suspend my disbelief just incase you are telling the truth here. Uhh, for example he complains about how no one pursues their scum reads but he doesn't either, only at almost end of the phase reveals his suspects. Qoco has a point there about Jack. I said where I was to Chione like 3 hours before phase change, so this is not true, I was also working out my reads all the time, don't twist events to suit a purpose I have a Issue with Shinichi on that already. |
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logic340 said: I can explain this. You see, a Hider role hides behind a player during the night. It means, whoever targets the hider will have their effect fail. ie. kill, roleblock, investigateMaybe I am stupid but I don't know jack about Hider so explain it so me like I am a 5 year old please. How can they be easily verified? However, if anyone killed the person he hides to, both will die. The reason they can be easily verified is because of the blatant fail kill or no results from investigate. |
Jackrito said: You were scum in FT though?OK now I had time to calm down after that mess, learned from the FT game not to post when mad. anyone actually want to give me a chance to defend myself for any issues you have with me. Since I don't like been voted last min for no reason given, I was here for the whole phase and got no pressure, so to all vote me late on is just cowardly tbh. Karote said: I am going to call Bullshit on this as Jack pursued reads throughout the phase and I find it quite hypocritical of you or Qoco to even use that as a reason ( first because it isn't accurate and second because neither of you perused jack shit all day). You Penta and Qoco can all eat a bullet tonight. You three better step it up tomorrow for real all three of you got FOS.logic340 said: Care to explain why not so much anymore? Like give some details some examples of why you did earlier but do not now. Like I just don't believe a word you are saying but I will try to suspend my disbelief just incase you are telling the truth here. Uhh, for example he complains about how no one pursues their scum reads but he doesn't either, only at almost end of the phase reveals his suspects. Qoco has a point there about Jack. |
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DenjaX said: Thank you it makes more sense. Still not sure that is worth giving scum one more chance (if it is a fake claim) Not sure how people weigh claims against behavior because his behavior is subpar for town to this point imo.logic340 said: I can explain this. You see, a Hider role hides behind a player during the night. It means, whoever targets the hider will have their effect fail. ie. kill, roleblock, investigateMaybe I am stupid but I don't know jack about Hider so explain it so me like I am a 5 year old please. How can they be easily verified? However, if anyone killed the person he hides to, both will die. The reason they can be easily verified is because of the blatant fail kill or no results from investigate. |
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logic340 said: Jackrito said: You were scum in FT though?OK now I had time to calm down after that mess, learned from the FT game not to post when mad. anyone actually want to give me a chance to defend myself for any issues you have with me. Since I don't like been voted last min for no reason given, I was here for the whole phase and got no pressure, so to all vote me late on is just cowardly tbh. Karote said: I am going to call Bullshit on this as Jack pursued reads throughout the phase and I find it quite hypocritical of you or Qoco to even use that as a reason ( first because it isn't accurate and second because neither of you perused jack shit all day). You Penta and Qoco can all eat a bullet tonight. You three better step it up tomorrow for real all three of you got FOS.Uhh, for example he complains about how no one pursues their scum reads but he doesn't either, only at almost end of the phase reveals his suspects. Qoco has a point there about Jack. Yes I was not sure why that part is revelant though last min trains like that are bad and I hate to die from them, since it leaves little chance to defend themselfs and not how I like to play it also leads to PR roles dying because not given time to claim. So justified or not in the outcome still something I hate. I could see it coming as well but still not sure why since not got a solid reason yet. |
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Jackrito said: Not saying it was relevant but you brought up FT game? I'm still inclined to think you are town I am looking at the people who caused this situation. I didn't like that last minute shift to you with minor reasons that Qoco state not sure that the majority of the people who vote you had a scum read on you so I will be looking into that. Not sure what to make of Penta's EoD to be honest. logic340 said: You were scum in FT though? I am going to call Bullshit on this as Jack pursued reads throughout the phase and I find it quite hypocritical of you or Qoco to even use that as a reason ( first because it isn't accurate and second because neither of you perused jack shit all day). You Penta and Qoco can all eat a bullet tonight. You three better step it up tomorrow for real all three of you got FOS. Yes I was not sure why that part is revelant though last min trains like that are bad and I hate to die from them, since it leaves little chance to defend themselfs and not how I like to play it also leads to PR roles dying because not given time to claim. So justified or not in the outcome still something I hate. I could see it coming as well but still not sure why since not got a solid reason yet. |
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logic340 said: Jackrito said: Not saying it was relevant but you brought up FT game? I'm still inclined to think you are town I am looking at the people who caused this situation. I didn't like that last minute shift to you with minor reasons that Qoco state not sure that the majority of the people who vote you had a scum read on you so I will be looking into that. Not sure what to make of Penta's EoD to be honest. Yes I was not sure why that part is revelant though last min trains like that are bad and I hate to die from them, since it leaves little chance to defend themselfs and not how I like to play it also leads to PR roles dying because not given time to claim. So justified or not in the outcome still something I hate. I could see it coming as well but still not sure why since not got a solid reason yet. I brought up FT game because last time I got that mad, and I said somethings I regretted after so needed a cooldown, sorry if I caused confusion with that. Penta wanted a lynch, and he was trying to work people out which is a good thing and his vote did save me even if it was only to stop a tie so I semi townread off that, since as scum no reason to do it. If he kept vote I would die, but end was a bit of a mess so hard to say if he knew what he was doing or not. It also means a scum Penta and Karote is now not a option at least. I would assume scum are on my train because the whole lynch seemed like taking adv of a situation, but this could be a case of bad town play. We should of just lynched the Ruu slot tbh, that situation is going to carry on even more now, mostly my fault for wanting to look at other people though. They is also the chance scum were not on any of the 2 trains and just sitting back letting us kill each other. I need to revaluate. |
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| @logic340 So on my Shinichi read, part of my vagueness was serving a purpose. When he initially doubted grrr so strongly for claiming Nurse before dropping that line of questioning I figured he was a non doc protective variant. Then when Lucian's role was inherited I eventually put 2 and 2 together and realized he was the inheritor and that is where his scepticism of grrr's initial claim came from. And since the inheritor role seemed inherently towny I started town reading shinichi. Just had to be vague about it to not out someone else's role. This EoD was a mess and I don't really want to post much else overnight. People are tense and I want to go into tomorrow with as calm an atmosphere as possible. Carrying over tension from yesterday is only going to make it harder. The blame game for how that went down needs to stop. If you think what someone did is scummy that's fine, but don't attack people unless it's coupled with a scum read please. I've already done more than my share of sniping and I don't want to continue the bad vibes that are percolating around here. |
Shinichi-Kun said: grrr said: I am a nurse... and just that. no modifiers. I believe there is simple doctor with no modifiers in the game who just didn't want to put his name in the classic town roles list so I can know he is town. Vote change: Ruu - I dont like this lynch but it is better than me. i refuse to believe this, and i cant even say why >3> @logic340 this was the post that my previous post was based on. Between that and his conversation with you that completely changed my stance on Shinichi. |
Grapefruit21 said: not sure I believe that or how you would have figured out Shinichi was the inheriter based on that one quote but whatever. Sounds like a TMI slip like when I figured out Rosie was double voter? Also if you really believe that he's Town based on what you say why not look over his post find some townie ones and make it case for town Shinichi rather than being vague?@logic340 this was the post that my previous post was based on. Between that and his conversation with you that completely changed my stance on Shinichi. |
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