Qoco said: It's not that I think there is a Jester. The way she is playing is reminiscent of a Jester. Jesters play to get lynched. The goal is to gather up votes, and die. I don't know if the end-goal of Ruu is to die, but I feel that they're wanting to gather up votes for something. Maybe they play Jester-like, to throw people off, and make them think that they're a Jester, but they're really not. Maybe it's a distraction to take away eyes from something bigger. I don't know. I think I know what they're doing, but I don't know why. Anything outside of a killing tpr is possible, basically another tpr with a simple win con is possible. So in all honesty having a jester makes sense. |
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logic340 said: 1. So you are neutral on Ruu but would you lynch her at the end of the day? We are trying to find bigger and better fish to fry. 2. I don't think Penta's is too long to read. I wanted to know if you agreed with the conclusions we came to or not? 3. So if scum are on his train then who do you think that might be? Karote I find hard to read because he limits what he puts into the thread. 4. Well you said you had nothing to talk about so I fired off the first things that came to my head. You said those things during the night phase it's been almost 48 hours since you posted those have your thoughts changed any in that time or are they exactly the same. You know me Rosie you know I read the thread multiple time. Shit I did two ISO's during the night phase. I've read the thread at least 3 times. I am sorry I cannot remember everything and maybe you should be the next one I ISO since you feel I have missed a lot of your thoughts this game. #1332 ah I see I almost made that same mistake but the VC looked off since Penta wasn't on Lucian. So you thought someone had Double vote since Lucian died instead of Ruu. Why did you think Double Voter rather than about a vote stealer? 1- Hmm... I guess that depends on what the next to last vote count looks like. I want a lynch no matter what. If we need an extra vote, then I will. 2-Maybe its not too long for you, but it is to me. I am gonna have to break it up in to smaller chucks, and write notes on my thoughts as I have them, which means you won't get an answer on what Penta said until N2. Sorry about that. But I think the overall point is the Grapefruit is acting weird, right? Which I don't agree with now. But I said that about you in Prison, so I could be dead wrong about this. 3-I can agree with you about Karote, which makes me look like a hypocrite. There is a person who I scum read on the train, but I don't want to say who yet. I have nothing concrete against them(gut feelings), and I would rather give you guys something to argue against. 4-Pretty much. Lam-b hasn't post anything new since then right? So I have no reason to think that he is anti town after that claim. And I still think its a good idea to try and figure out would might have voter manipulation in the game. And I know, I am a black kettle, but there are a lot of people just not posting. Peoples biggest reads are not even here to defend themselves. Sorry, its not only you who is making me feel this way. You are just part of the group who make me feel this way. Esp Coel's #1195, which shows that she actually read my post but just dismissed them as fluff for some reason. At least you and grapefruit don't remember/haven't read my posts. //edit: Sorry I was so caught up in my thoughts for this one that I forgot to reply to your last bit. I should have said voter manipulator(implying both types of roles), but I don't think you would have one with out the other. One on its own is too powerful, unless balanced out with something else. This is unrelated. But Grrr was very different D1. But now he is back to his usually self. What do you think this means? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Um I just had it too, if you look on this (the one where you post is on) page, I give the link to Logic though.Oyasumi_Rosie said: Then we already know the double voter was on CP's trains last phase. hmm how so explain unless u already did and ill find the post soon enough Basically I was reading the wrong vote count. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Hmm, I gave him the same question that Logic gave me, but he didn't answer any of them though. Or did he and I just missed them?Jackrito said: People should not have to ask you questions to make a person active, if you want to be lynched by all means carry on but I assume you want to win. How is that question vague or bad it can be answered however the person wants it is a open question to start discussion. To say it is designed to make you look bad is so paranoid. I also agree here but im pretty sure panda is just saying he thinks thsoe bland questions are easy to hide behind, he will always post onces hes home, hes jusy saying he rather come home to unique questions. |
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logic340 said: Jackrito - Take how you feel about me out of it and just look at his play and what I said about him, what do you think? Now do the opposite if I am scum am I protecting a buddy or whiteknighting him? Only gonna reply to this part because the rest i dont really need too i got my answers nothing really to say to them Its possible he scum lol thats the low down of it. Maybe protecting but thats a long shot |
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Grapefruit21 said: And if we're going to do a pure PoE lynch and ignore scumminess and just shoot into the not posting pool anyway it should be on the claimed Miller. Because other slots can at least be potentially cleared by mechanics. I agree with this Pretty surerosie soft claimed somewhere tho unless im overthinking one of her posts |
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aa-dono said: logic340 said: +1aa-dono - You didn't say anything about my read on her :( @Shinichi-Kun :( hmm did i miss a read in that giant post lol im sorry |
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logic340 said: aa-dono - definitely looks to be scum hunting. D1 was a mix for her but the one think is the vote staying on Lucian. That cannot be attributed solely to scum so it's NAI. I am really liking her D2 so far but I need to see more as I feel biased because the majority of it revolves around soring me. idk how i missed this, im very biased when it comes to awa because her scum game is scary and manipulative. Problem is i dont see any form of manipulation in her posts. Shes scum hunting and some helping alot with the game solving but im always wary of her :P |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: Hmm, I gave him the same question that Logic gave me, but he didn't answer any of them though. Or did he and I just missed them?I also agree here but im pretty sure panda is just saying he thinks thsoe bland questions are easy to hide behind, he will always post onces hes home, hes jusy saying he rather come home to unique questions. not sure prob didnt fele like ansswering them more than once? Oyasumi_Rosie said: Um I just had it too, if you look on this (the one where you post is on) page, I give the link to Logic though. Basically I was reading the wrong vote count. Ok so u dont think there is a duble voer then? |
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Karote said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: 1-Miller claims are always bad. This makes her look bad. Maybe for some that will enough to push them to vote, the fine. She hasn't done enough to prove either way. Basically what aa-dono is saying in #1201 2- They seem good? I guess. Penta's agrument was too wordy for me to follow, and he didn't seem to have concluding sentence that summed his major points up. Your's is shorter and to the point which makes it easier to questions. Why can't you agree with Grapefurit choice there? 3-More information on it than I thought @suzune-chan What happens when votes are tied? 4-I have been reading the thread pretty regularly, and I have no idea what you are talking about here Pretty general opinions here. Vote change: Rosie If you've been reading the thread regularly, does anyone seems suspicious or town-ish to you? What do you think of aa-dono vote on Shinichi? Does it seem justified? I have two people who are suspicious who I have in game(by this I mean something you can read, vs just my thoughts and feelings) reasons to think so. I don't like Lambs claim but doing so is pro town if it's true. Grrrr has switched from being helpful to being cryptic in the last two days. Lamb is more scummy than Grrrr to me From what I saw, aa is voting for shinichi to info out of him, so yeah it feel justified now. |
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Karote said: Grapefruit21 said: @Karote what do you think of Pentas case on me? Who are you interested in lynching? What do you make of dono D1 vs D2? That's a big wall of text. Only thing I notice, Penta comes time to time drops some posts and goes, doesn't particulaly strikes me off as town nor scum, same for Chione. Though at least Penta votes for his suspect but Chione, dunno what she's doing. Trying get inactives active? Posted her reads, that surely gives her some townie points but it's useless if doesn't go with it. Says aa-dono is scummy but I don't find aa particulary scummy. So not having a direct vote in a read list is scummy, but having a vote in a read list isnt? I guess i can see it, but why do u find that particular wierd? |
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aa-dono said: I don't think I get the same townvibe on logic, but I can't think of him as scum too. Moving on, @Shinichi-Kun, when you're fine and awake, could you tell us your current scumreads? You seem to put town tags more than scum. Also, in one of your previous post that I'm too lazy to dig, you said 90% of grrr's posts shows a town mindset. Could you break down those posts. and what of the 10% ? So well, until then I'll park my vote here: Vote: Shinichi-Kun I am going off now in hopes that I can wake up in time for phase change. Everyone's welcome to lynch Shin-chan even if I'm not around :D Smh haha Well my biggest scum read is still ruu the problem is ever since that jester post i think its possible shes just jester. 2nd would be chione after the end of day 1 the town read i had on her never came back and it feels like she doesnt have that same atmosphere if i get a chance once im done back reading ill find a post that shows what i mean. I dont really have a 3rd scum read alot of people are giving me those i am scum vibes like those 2, i rather see one of them flip before i decide the game out some more. |
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PentaFlare said: @Jackrito #1309 So the general idea is that you think I'm being a little harsh with some of these points. I can sort of understand that. Individually, I wouldn't give a scumread for most of these things because they all have a possible, although usually less likely, town motivation. My problem is that grape has done them all. Too much evidence for it all to be a coincidence. Regarding the tonal shift, the red flag for me was grape talking about how everything else was fluffy. There had been enough in the thread to that point to justify reads on others, but grape seemed to be actively ignoring other players in favour of tunneling grrr, but not seeming super confident about it in that one moment. It felt unconsciously defensive. If you think that the exaggerated townread is something they would do I can respect that. I don't have an extensive meta on grape. It is something that still seems quite scummy to me, but I'll treat it more as a reason to give their reads extra scrutiny and less as a solid tell. Reading this now i remember what i wanted to bring up, its the fact no matter what rosie posts he keeps calling it fluffy which i find super weird. @grapefruit21 The tunnel on ruu i understand he did that on the last miller claim, but grrr has given me any red flags this game so i feels like its possible he wants an easy lynch. Ur reads honestly dont seem as forced as some of your fake claims lol, but im still riding on the town cred i got from you with ur voting tieing. If anything i would be willing to lynch him too if that continues to stay a possibily. |
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| This might be interesting to you guys to know too. When I have tried to post game stuff in the past, I have been reversed pocketed by scum, but never lynched. They made me emotional, which most others read as scum. Which is normally the exact opposite with me (LQ is a good example) Grapefruit fell for it then, maybe he is trying to use it now ? However unlike those other times, he isn't talking to me directly, so I havent noticed it till Shinichi mentioned it in his #1414 |
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Grapefruit21 said: Vote: Ruu So I still don't know what Penta was talking about when they said grrr's claim checked out, but enough people have accepted it that I'm going to accept it too. The talk about how we can't be sure Lucian wasn't the doc and that multiple backups are acceptable makes sense to me. @aa-dono I like your philosophy on unvoting, but it's also rather convenient. @Shinichi-Kun it was a collection of your night posts, but the one I linked was the one that made it all click for me. You've seen logic's play the last few games and that was a really big mindmeld response to him. Which is normally a red flag, but given how much intense thought we've given to logic's play in Alc and Kitty I think it's a good sign. Also I didn't think a Jester made sense with a converting role like CPurity showed, but you know more about design... @Coelestin your read list cleared a lot of things up for me. And your stance on Lam-b makes sense but is surprising. I just haven't seen them much so I'm more familiar with their play being like it has been than as a big asset for town. @logic340 I'm deadly serious about lynching Ruu today. As for grrr as I explained elsewhere I thought that Lucian's flip was a hard dichotomy better designers than I have told me I'm wrong about that. Wait u wanna lynch the miller claim i thought for sure u would be defendingn her because of the claim. One of the main reasons i distrust logic alot is cause now from all my experience with him its easier to read him, and i cant even tell when some of his reads a farfetched lol. @grapefruit21 what makes grrr claim so special did u explain it somewhere? |
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Karote said: Jackrito said: @Karote just wondering do you plan to push on me or make a case at all or just sit with a vote doing nothing. You can't be annoyed on day one and then do this. Also what do you think of people voting you. I'm not annoyed. I was convinced of your defense but yeah, I probably should remove it and go for someone else. Err, there's nothing really to say about the people who voted for me. Qoco just called me out and I said hey back, that's pretty much it. Coelestine or something, asked for my read list and didn't reply yet so her vote is justified. Ok this is a answer I guess was looking for a bit more then that but will do for now. playing catchup so intrested to see what I missed. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: Hmm, I gave him the same question that Logic gave me, but he didn't answer any of them though. Or did he and I just missed them? not sure prob didnt fele like ansswering them more than once? I mean, it's not like Logic or anyone asked him those questions, it would still be useful to get his thoughts on them. He didn't even give me a fuck you. Do you rink he just didn't see it? no I am pretty sure there is some sort of manipulation. I just don't have proof. |
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aa-dono said: I don't think I get the same townvibe on logic, but I can't think of him as scum too. Moving on, @Shinichi-Kun, when you're fine and awake, could you tell us your current scumreads? You seem to put town tags more than scum. Also, in one of your previous post that I'm too lazy to dig, you said 90% of grrr's posts shows a town mindset. Could you break down those posts. and what of the 10% ? So well, until then I'll park my vote here: Vote: Shinichi-Kun I am going off now in hopes that I can wake up in time for phase change. Everyone's welcome to lynch Shin-chan even if I'm not around :D I'm semi townreading you after outr eariler talk, but it annoys me how you leave a vote on someone you don't really sucm read I know timezones are a issue but it can create issues late on and give scum easy way to frame you and get a lynch they want. |
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Karote said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: 1-Miller claims are always bad. This makes her look bad. Maybe for some that will enough to push them to vote, the fine. She hasn't done enough to prove either way. Basically what aa-dono is saying in #1201 2- They seem good? I guess. Penta's agrument was too wordy for me to follow, and he didn't seem to have concluding sentence that summed his major points up. Your's is shorter and to the point which makes it easier to questions. Why can't you agree with Grapefurit choice there? 3-More information on it than I thought @suzune-chan What happens when votes are tied? 4-I have been reading the thread pretty regularly, and I have no idea what you are talking about here Pretty general opinions here. Vote change: Rosie If you've been reading the thread regularly, does anyone seems suspicious or town-ish to you? What do you think of aa-dono vote on Shinichi? Does it seem justified? This is a more townie approach I just wish you could do stuff like this more that been said it is a bit general and can easily be faked |
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PentaFlare said: I decided to do an ISO read of grapefruit (up until the end of day 1) since I had a vote on them but didn't have a strong impression of them day 1. I just didn't really notice them because my thoughts were elsewhere. I'm not going to write a detailed post about everything because I actually took notes with pencil and paper, but I'm going to highlight the most important things. I'm surprised I didn't have a strong impression of grape on day 1 because looking back, I've found a wide variety of scumtells. Not just one, but multiple different scumtells. I'll give a little explanation of each. First is a tonal scumtell in regards to grape's view of grrr. For most of the phase, grape is very focused on the idea of scum!grrr and is very confident in their scumread. In fact, in posts like #496, grape is treating grrr like you would treat confirmed scum. However, in #212, there is a sudden shift of tone that only lasts for this post (and one extra sentence in #194, but #212 highlights it better). Grape is saying that this one thing they have been going at grrr's throat all phase for is a "low impact offense" but is scummy only because everything else is mostly fluff. This tonal change is really scummy, because it shows that grape doesn't actually have a strong scumread on grrr, but are trying really hard to make grrr appear scummy. A town member would have a consistent tone towards a person, either really strong or more moderate, but grape doesn't. A read can change, but it would do so in a directed manner, whereas grape didn't start to back off after this softer post, just went back to going hard at grrr. It's a slip of grape's actual knowledge that the case on grrr is fake. Another scumtell I have picked up on are their hyperbolic reads. Grape is waaay too fast to give someone a scumread or a townread. This isn't related to early game where they came up with FOS on Qoco and grrr and two small townreads. Grape said those were weak. What I'm referring to is later on when grape will get a really strong read off just one thing. For example, their read on logic. Grape said that logic's case on Lamby "screamed town" (#493. The loaded diction implies heavy confidence and that the read should be obvious to anyone. However, this isn't justified. Grape is basing this read off meta, which can give townreads, but is never enough to instantly read someone as town off one case. This is a scummy read because someone who knows who is town easily sees town motive in everything they do, especially when referring to meta. They know that this is their town game, so they relate it subconsciously to their other town games. Meta is the easiest way to catch scum giving a townread too fast. The third scumtell is that grape is focused so much on asking really easy questions and not analyzing much. Post #500 is a great example of a whole bunch of really easy questions that don't take a lot of critical thinking to come up with. grape is keeping busy by asking a bunch of easy questions to keep the appearance of generating information, but isn't taking the step of analyzing the information they have been working to produce and condensing it into reads. The first part is what every player who isn't super familiar with playing scum thinks is most important to appear to do because it is "hunting" for information, but it is the second that reveals if they are actually trying to find scum. Grape makes reads, but looking at each of them, I haven't found signs of critical thinking outside of post #496 (linked earlier) where there is a meta comparison for logic which isn't enough to support the strength of the read on logic, and is meta, which is the easiest analysis to fake. The read on grrr has nothing. It is IIoA. Grape focuses on statements like "grrr is trying to find information about PRs" instead of analysis. Also, look at the vote on grrr (#174). It is awwwwwful. A bunch of neutral statements and questions to grrr, then a vote out of the blue with not explanation. Finally, and this one mostly explains itself, grape has been fudding a little here and there. Especially #496 in the way they paint grrr as a bane to town and completely untrustworthy with emotional appeal, which is often scummy rhetoric when another person is the subject. This is the weakest, but add it to everything here, and jeez. There is so much scum mindset visible everywhere. So, although my original vote for grapefruit had nothing to do with them and everything to do with grrr, it is now sticking, and it has everything to do with grape. First: Ill agree with you here in most cases even a slight tonal change could mean ur not sure about a read which inturn means its a forced read by a scum, but even i second guess some of my strongest pushes i did it alot in prison mafia which led to all my mislynches. Though my view here is entirely biased cause i see grrr as town. 2nd.Fast read lists in general are pretty scum but i dont think a scum player would put themselves on the spot lihg tlike that. Are u sure this isnt something he would do every game because this is stuff ive noticed when he was town. He normally tends to have a very biased view point leading to very quick and uninformed reads. This alone wouldnt be enough for me to scum read grape i do get where ur coming from with this though. 3rd.I mean this is before Qoco post about too many people asking simple questions but do u think its kind of the same situation? Cause if thats true then alot of people asking relatively easy questions lol, but thats just me. 4thThis part i agree with tho if i hadnt seen ur post on what FUD meant i wouldnt have been able to agree. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: not sure prob didnt fele like ansswering them more than once? I mean, it's not like Logic or anyone asked him those questions, it would still be useful to get his thoughts on them. He didn't even give me a fuck you. Do you rink he just didn't see it? no I am pretty sure there is some sort of manipulation. I just don't have proof. idk how u can be sure off of one lynch lol, like what is with u and this whole there is a vote manipluation in every game kind of attitude. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: I've caught up but I'm not going to respond to anything until I have had a good nights sleep. I have two things I want to mention though. First, I keep noticing people bringing up my position in Lucian's train with varying perspective. In my opinion, voting to break a tie is NAI. It is just objectively the right choice to avoid a no lynch, so my mindset doesn't matter when deciding to make what is objectively the right choice. Don't overthink it. Second, FUD stands for Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. To fud is any combination of spreading lies, fearmongering, mudslinging, or paranoia that are shared with the goal of leading town astray with too much doubt. It is scummy because it makes cooperation among town much harder. It can take many forms, small or large. Not true actually under norma circumstances i think a scum would want a tie, but cuppled with your vote on ruu to the very end and only chaning votes to prevent a tie seems more town aligned than null. Who do u think is using FUD? thats the first time ive ever seen or heard tham term being used before haha What do scum gain from a tie the only adv is if one of them is getting lynched, they is the lack of info for town but a potential of killing a town PR is one most would take. |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Not true actually under norma circumstances i think a scum would want a tie, but cuppled with your vote on ruu to the very end and only chaning votes to prevent a tie seems more town aligned than null. Who do u think is using FUD? thats the first time ive ever seen or heard tham term being used before haha What do scum gain from a tie the only adv is if one of them is getting lynched, they is the lack of info for town but a potential of killing a town PR is one most would take. Exactly if mafia can get away with a no lynch tie then town gets no info whatsoever which means no connections. Only connections a person could make in that situation who they think would have killed CP during the night. Also that reminds me based off CP dieing at night. Either dono,logic is scum based on that alone because they both mentioned how strong of a player and influencal of one he is. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: idk how u can be sure off of one lynch lol, like what is with u and this whole there is a vote manipluation in every game kind of attitude. Dude how couldn't be sure after the first vote count? What other reason would there be not to have the number next to the votes? This only the second game I brought it up in. The first time I was the double voter. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: I mean... you were also there@logic340 Doesnt rosie play this game remind of u when she was scum in live mafia? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Qoco said: Not saying that others should play the game for me either. Just saiyan that if you want information so badly, there's a way to communicate >:D Ive always wanted to point that out too but i felt like i would jsut get instantly scum read Yet again you act way too self aware of how others will read you. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: idk how u can be sure off of one lynch lol, like what is with u and this whole there is a vote manipluation in every game kind of attitude. Dude how couldn't be sure after the first vote count? What other reason would there be not to have the number next to the votes? This only the second game I brought it up in. The first time I was the double voter. what ya mean even if there was a number next to the votes, no host could include a double vote in that number lmfao |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Ive always wanted to point that out too but i felt like i would jsut get instantly scum read Yet again you act way too self aware of how others will read you. is there something wrong with that? |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: I mean... you were also there@logic340 Doesnt rosie play this game remind of u when she was scum in live mafia? Ik i waas lol, i spectated the whole thing but i want a players perspective. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: still thought, that there is no number. Why not have it when other games with double votes have the numbers? Not to mention this is also role madness so this just add and even more possibility. This is why I asked about the tie.Oyasumi_Rosie said: Dude how couldn't be sure after the first vote count? What other reason would there be not to have the number next to the votes? This only the second game I brought it up in. The first time I was the double voter. what ya mean even if there was a number next to the votes, no host could include a double vote in that number lmfao |
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Jackrito said: yeah and isn't everyone? This is a game where looking and acting a certain way gets you killed.Shinichi-Kun said: Ive always wanted to point that out too but i felt like i would jsut get instantly scum read Yet again you act way too self aware of how others will read you. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: still thought, that there is no number. Why not have it when other games with double votes have the numbers? Not to mention this is also role madness so this just add and even more possibility. This is why I asked about the tie.what ya mean even if there was a number next to the votes, no host could include a double vote in that number lmfao First off compared to most vote counts, suzune is pretty blande most hosts like the number being there. I do it in my games cause it helps me, i dont do numbers cause of vote manipulation. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Jackrito said: yeah and isn't everyone? This is a game where looking and acting a certain way gets you killed.Yet again you act way too self aware of how others will read you. ^^^ well said from rosie Going against the norm is what gets people killed. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: For all this talk of lynching Ruu, nobody is voting for her. Is the VC that out of date or is nobody really sticking to their reads? It is more something that no one sees a point i n doing while they are not there, better to pressure others now we are getting closer to phase change the option is going to become more valid again. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Qoco said: Not saying that others should play the game for me either. Just saiyan that if you want information so badly, there's a way to communicate >:D Ive always wanted to point that out too but i felt like i would jsut get instantly scum read lool You get scum read for anything these days. Post too much and you get lynched for attracting too much attention, and thus, wasting other people's time. Post too little and you get lynched because others can't get a read on you. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Qoco said: It's not that I think there is a Jester. The way she is playing is reminiscent of a Jester. Jesters play to get lynched. The goal is to gather up votes, and die. I don't know if the end-goal of Ruu is to die, but I feel that they're wanting to gather up votes for something. Maybe they play Jester-like, to throw people off, and make them think that they're a Jester, but they're really not. Maybe it's a distraction to take away eyes from something bigger. I don't know. I think I know what they're doing, but I don't know why. Anything outside of a killing tpr is possible, basically another tpr with a simple win con is possible. So in all honesty having a jester makes sense. They could also be a traitor trying to let scums know that they're a traitor. I played as a traitor once, and I knew who all the scums were, but they didn't know who I was. I was still a Townie though. I just had to help them out. |
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aa-dono said: Qoco said: This was one of the point that Penta brought up about Grape. If you think that sort of question is taking advantage, then why is your vote on Karote and not Grape?It helps if people mention me with specific questions. I mean good questions, no dumb demands, or crappy, pretending-to-look-good-questions, like "what do you think of the game so far?" That's one thing that triggers me. When people try to take advantage of the situation that you're in, and they throw a vague ass question at you, to make you look bad, and in return, make them look good. If I'm honest I haven't read much from the past two days. It's all mostly skimmed. I started a new job and pushed 10 hours the day before yesterday. Then yesterday I worked my normal job and did 8-9 hours. Today I'm off though >:) I don't know anything about points that Penta made. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: sorry if I posted a reply to this already. Phone is starting to over and I keep getting pushed around on the bus.Oyasumi_Rosie said: still thought, that there is no number. Why not have it when other games with double votes have the numbers? Not to mention this is also role madness so this just add and even more possibility. This is why I asked about the tie. First off compared to most vote counts, suzune is pretty blande most hosts like the number being there. I do it in my games cause it helps me, i dont do numbers cause of vote manipulation. So the number thing could be some combination of aesthetics and laziness, fine. But that doesn't mean they are still not there, and the only way tell for sure is a tie. |
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logic340 said: My issue with this is we shouldn't have to track you down and ask you silly question you should be putting gyour thoughts I to the thread. You signed up for the game we shouldn't have to shake you down for reads. I don't want silly questions anyway. Especially if they've been answered already. Just yesterday I had someone ask me about my thoughts on Ruu, when the answer was said already, multiple times. If you're gonna ask me silly ass, generic questions, then all you're going to earn is a vote from me, for trying to look like you're doing something. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: I've caught up but I'm not going to respond to anything until I have had a good nights sleep. I have two things I want to mention though. First, I keep noticing people bringing up my position in Lucian's train with varying perspective. In my opinion, voting to break a tie is NAI. It is just objectively the right choice to avoid a no lynch, so my mindset doesn't matter when deciding to make what is objectively the right choice. Don't overthink it. Second, FUD stands for Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. To fud is any combination of spreading lies, fearmongering, mudslinging, or paranoia that are shared with the goal of leading town astray with too much doubt. It is scummy because it makes cooperation among town much harder. It can take many forms, small or large. Not true actually under norma circumstances i think a scum would want a tie, but cuppled with your vote on ruu to the very end and only chaning votes to prevent a tie seems more town aligned than null. Who do u think is using FUD? thats the first time ive ever seen or heard tham term being used before haha It's in my case on grape. Did you just skip over the word when you read it? |
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Qoco said: then why is your vote still sitting on Karote?logic340 said: My issue with this is we shouldn't have to track you down and ask you silly question you should be putting gyour thoughts I to the thread. You signed up for the game we shouldn't have to shake you down for reads. I don't want silly questions anyway. Especially if they've been answered already. Just yesterday I had someone ask me about my thoughts on Ruu, when the answer was said already, multiple times. If you're gonna ask me silly ass, generic questions, then all you're going to earn is a vote from me, for trying to look like you're doing something. |
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Jackrito said: Qoco said: @Grapefruit21 I would advise you to place the vote elsewhere. That's my suggestion. Ruu made herself too easy of a target. On the reverse of this has Karote your current lynch also made them self a easy target off bad play what makes them different from Ruu in that aspect. I could agrue a lot of people are easy targets at the moment There is a difference. Karote isn't claiming Miller, nor is he doing shady activities, like Ruu. You shouldn't compare Ruu with anybody else. She's a special case on its own. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Qoco said: then why is your vote still sitting on Karote?I don't want silly questions anyway. Especially if they've been answered already. Just yesterday I had someone ask me about my thoughts on Ruu, when the answer was said already, multiple times. If you're gonna ask me silly ass, generic questions, then all you're going to earn is a vote from me, for trying to look like you're doing something. Because I'm thinking while responding to the countless quotes and mentions that I have sitting in my notifications. Here, I'll do you one. Change Vote: Oyasumi_Rosie |
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Jackrito said: Qoco said: A good starting point to build on is your lack of a vote. It's hard to think about your actions when you don't show any. So sick of this now why does everyone I question give me sass. Hoe many more actions do I need to show in one game. Im trying to work out the inactives at the moment because I currently scum read them because of the lack of content. I don't want a another mislynch so for the love of god try to work with me here. Why even waste your time with that? Let the host work on the inactive ones. If someone is inactive then it's probably for a reason. You can call them out all you want, but you're probably not going to get much a reaction. Not one that can help the cause, anyway. |
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