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Apr 20, 2017 3:51 PM
#1102
Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: Thoughts: #168 - I find this post interesting. Ruu says that she cannot vote Karote due to bad feeling yet that is the reason Lucian was voting Ruu? Though I agree some people are held to different standards so maybe Ruu is right to be concerned about this? I was feeling the same way about neutral reads then and still am now. I agree that people are held to different standards, i also think its a bad way of thinking. I admit the way i hold grrr is prob wrong, but also this game i dont trust him as much as i normally do i would actually be willing to lynch him. Though he did claim some form of doctor right? I like gut feelings tho because normally they can find scum. Is her bad feeling say karote is town or scum though cause it seems like she doesnt wanna vote him under the sunspense hes either a harmful tpr or hes a town role.If she does believe he is scum then why vote lucian over karote? #169 - This isn't really about Ruu just an observation: Penta is on Ruu's head about still being on Lucian on page 4. Why was Penta cool with Karote being on Ruu for 14 pages? This is that different standard I am talking about and why I cannot scum read Ruu with you all right now. She is being held to a much different standard than people like grrr and Karote and I think it's complete and utter bullshit. This is something i can agree with you as i just mentioned the standards part, but you need to understand claiming miller on first post under no pressure is alot more town motivated than claiming miller after having just survived almost being lynched. Now if a cop or whatever investigation role we have checks her they need to decide if shes lieing if they get the results scum. #193 - I really like this post. Many will say it's fake but scum Ruu isn't this relaxed and works a lot harder to look town. I find this post to be very believable. Meta is iffy subject tho!! Also you gotta understand from any towns view point that this post is scummy because we aren't just gonna believe her. This like a free ride kind of post where she doesnt need to put effort but because she posted this people wont have to worry about her lack of activity kind of thing. I get why u town read her for this but i get the exact opposite kind of feeling. #261 - Chione telling Ruu to move her vote off Lucina yet not saying anything to Karote who had a RVS vote our for 14 pages. All i know is now that lucian is actually dead his gut feeling holds alot of weight, thought i still can't answer for chione. #339 - This is how you interrogate grrr not that BS that Karote did that lead to a vote. Now this is just unfair what makes the way she said it any different than me?I straight up asked him for an answer i got nothing. So to say this is proper is just bs and very biased toward u reading her as town #350 - I think I believe her now that I have read this again. She straight up told grrr about him fake claiming as vanilla and that is the role she is can he guess. Miller was kitty mafia Ruu is likely town. Exactly though she saw the role in kitty mafia so its possible shes a traitor role its a huge speculation but possible nonetheless. No one noticed that soft claim not even grrr and at that point she was better off full claiming if people didnt have a soft heart she would have been lynched. #452 - Maybe this is my personal bias but scum Ruu knows better than to come at me on some BS I will nail her to the wall quickly. Thats exactly what is your own bias and yet another meta. I don't care if im town or scum if i want someone lynched ill push for it,if someone is acting questionble ill bring it up. On a serious note your basically saying she has to be town because she didnt push you. #526 - This is a bold proclamation and something I doubt scum Ruu does. Why because it draw attention her way and scum Ruu needs to stay out of the limelight. All scum have to show that they're scum hunting cause if they don't they will eventually get caught, I know because ive been caught as scum for not scum hunting while hiding behind other peoples opinions. #979 - I think there is a lot of truth in this. Maybe a little OoG but I know that she loves being scum with Suzune and I feel like if she was scum here she wouldn't be playing this poorly. Sounds more like a pity cry to me #985 - I have had that feeling a lot in games latterly as well. She made assumptions here because if she had claimed miller role day 1 i wouuld have gave her the same treatment i did with grrr in the other game. This post is pretty much similar to how scum rinto acted when he posted he was the miller which is why it gives me warning bells. my responses are the bold one obviously Thank you for your response it's been so long since someone had actual thoughts about one of my ISO's 1. I honestly think gut feeling, which is hard to explain, is sometime more right than the over thinking we do. I mean at that point the only think Karote had done was vote and leave so I am not sure that move would be so justified as you make it sound. Also I don't think she ever outright said he was scum for it 2. I understand the way the roll is supposed to be played. I know there are two outcomes from this claim. a. What you believe she is scum who wanted an out when she was checked. Death Sentence b. What I think she's actually a Miller and played it horribly The timing of her claim doesn't change the fact that if a cop checks her they have to decide whether she is lying or not 3. The thing is we're allowed to feel differently about posts. We have different experiences in mafia and different experiences with Ruu. I know meta is an "iffy" subject because I don't just take everyone's meta at face value either. you don't know if you can trust me this game so you feel like I could be skewing results to fit my narrative I get that. I will work on articulating things better. 4. Lucian didn't think Ruu was scum before he died and right now she's going to open the phase with a lot of votes on her. 5. I really don't think it is unfair. He asked grrr one question. Ruu asked the same question then asked other question relating to the game. Which behavior do you find scummy? Asking someone how they feel about being lynched then voting them for not answering said question or asking someone if they are trying to get themselves killed and asks him why he is role fishing (a question related to getting himself killed and the game). 6. grrr wasn't the traitor in Kitty Mafia though so how do you equate that to traitor role? I am not seeing the correlation but I guess anything is possible. Also the traitor role was Judas who didn't know they were traitor to my knowledge. 7. Scum hunting puts you in the spotlight? Scum hunting is a way to shake suspicion, not scum hunting is what got suspicion on her no? 8. The thing is we're allowed to feel differently about posts. I guess we'll see when she flips. 9. While you may have treated Ruu the same would everyone else have? You know Grapefruit wont let that shit go until she's dead. I struggle to see the scum motivation in claiming Miller there knowing it's a death sentence. my responses are numbered obviously |
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Apr 20, 2017 4:01 PM
#1103
Day 2 "Elise-chan!" "Elise-chan! Where are you?" Mori ran though the streets arms laden with bags from the story. "Wait until she sees this simply beautiful dress with the ruffles. I will have to get her some cake so she will try it on." But suddenly he stops. He senses a strong malice. Mori activates his ability Vita Sexualis. This summons Elise to him. "If you limit your field of vision, the enemies moves become obvious" says a voice." Mori's heart falls. Then the car near him blows up. Elise turning into ribbons and Mori crumbles to the ground. Corrupted Purity dies: They were Mori Ougai Character: Mori Ougai "Come now, are you suggesting a time will not come when you draw your knife at me" Ability: Vita Sexualis As an underground doctor, no one wants to be alone. Using your ability Vita Sexualis you can slowly take control of someone and force them to join you. The doctor needs a perfect subject, compliant to their will after all. In order to use this ability you will have to target the same person on three consecutive nights. Changing targets resets the counter on that person. Targeting someone once Will Roleblock them Targeting someone twice: You will control who their night action hits. You will not learn what the night action is though. Targeting someone three times: They will lose their former alignment and join you. They will keep their ability and will control their own ability. Should you choose to switch around targets you can. But the counter will reset each time. So decide how to best use your power. Win Condition: This win condition is special. Your goal is to defeat the mafia. You win when the mafia is defeated regardless of whether or not you outnumber the town. In the event that the game falls to 1-1-1 you will take the win, likewise the game falling to 1-1-2 will also yield you a victory. I will make you a secret club if you choose to convert, but this is a pretty flexible role, play it however you like. Time until night 2 @Logic340, @Grapefruit21, @Shinichi-Kun, @Ruu, @Aa-dono, @CorruptedPurity, @Lam-B, @Jackrito, @Grrr, @Oyasumi_Rosie, @Karote, @Pentaflare, @LucianRoy, @Coelestin, @Qoco |
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Apr 20, 2017 4:09 PM
#1105
All night actions have been sent at this point. |
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Apr 20, 2017 4:10 PM
#1106
| Great job Mafia Team!! XD Thank you so much for sparing a townie while helping us get rid of that menace! You deserve a round of applause. |
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Apr 20, 2017 4:11 PM
#1107
Vote Count 2.0 Grapefruit21: Grrr Those not voting Logic340, Grapefruit21, Shinichi-Kun, Ruu, Aa-dono, Lam-B, Jackrito, Oyasumi_Rosie, Karote, Pentaflare, Coelestin, Qoco What has already transpired Phase Day one! || Vote count 1.1 || 1.2 || 1.3 || 1.4 || 1.5 || 1.6 || 1.7 || 1.8 || 1.9 || 1.10 || 1.11 || 1.12 || 1.13 || 1.14 || 1.15 Night one Day 2 || Vote Count 2.0 |
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Apr 20, 2017 4:13 PM
#1108
| Vote: grapefruit BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
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Apr 20, 2017 4:19 PM
#1109
Apr 20, 2017 4:22 PM
#1110
Apr 20, 2017 4:24 PM
#1111
| You made me the saltiest man alive now. I was so hyped to play that role out... Sooo frustrated CP out... (in an extremely angry and salty manner) |
Apr 20, 2017 4:25 PM
#1112
CorruptedPurity said: You made me the saltiest man alive now. I was so hyped to play that role out... Sooo frustrated CP out... (in an extremely angry and salty manner) \o <3 |
Apr 20, 2017 4:29 PM
#1113
Shinichi-Kun said: I was wondering the same thing thought the first few votes of this phase would go directly to Ruu.whats with the grapefruit votes am i missing something? |
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Apr 20, 2017 4:39 PM
#1114
| Grapefruit hasn't been overly active lets see if I can get a third ISO done today and see if I am seeing what they are seeing? Edit: My company just arrived this one will be on hold until the morning. I will be keeping up on mobile so don't expect any wall post from me. Maybe I should take Purity's advice and go Rinto mode for a little while? |
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Apr 20, 2017 4:57 PM
#1115
Shinichi-Kun said: whats with the grapefruit votes am i missing something? Good question. I don't really have an answer |
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Apr 20, 2017 5:00 PM
#1116
| what happened? I'm lost... let me reread D: so the tpr died? |
Apr 20, 2017 5:01 PM
#1117
PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: whats with the grapefruit votes am i missing something? Good question. I don't really have an answer +1 |
Apr 20, 2017 5:02 PM
#1118
This is your chance to prove yourself. Once you have a chance to sort yourself out, it would be nice if you could give us a top 3 scumreads/top 3 townreads |
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Apr 20, 2017 5:04 PM
#1119
| How sad it sound that I'm happy that the first two votes are not for me? xD |
Apr 20, 2017 5:04 PM
#1120
PentaFlare said: This is your chance to prove yourself. Once you have a chance to sort yourself out, it would be nice if you could give us a top 3 scumreads/top 3 townreads Working on it! |
Apr 20, 2017 5:13 PM
#1121
| No he is just a cop right? a role blocker |
Apr 20, 2017 5:24 PM
#1122
Oyasumi_Rosie said: No he is just a cop right? a role blocker Since they are "blue" I thought that meant a different alignment :/ Also I'm rereading and my strongest townread atm is Penta. I can only see town motives behind his posts. I like how he is trying to get everyone to scumhunt and making relevant questions and not just fluffy posts (I'm still on p5 so please be patient) |
Apr 20, 2017 5:49 PM
#1123
| Okkay, no quotes because I'm on mobile atm. Townreads ( based on the ratio between fluff/helpful posts, the content of them and the interaction with other players trying to scumhunt/get reads) Penta / grrr Scummy (based on fluff/helpful posts, reasons behind votes) Lamb / Jack / Chione vote: Lamb Okay let me explain. I'm voting for lamb because he was a complete ghost (even more than me) at first and then when he appeared his posts had more fluff than actual useful information. His vote on grrr was weak imo. And his later input didn't give me town vibes. Chione is different, her posts are good but I don't see a townie behind them. She also defends lamb a lot from logic in the beginning which seemed odd to me. And I can see a lamb/Chione team. Jack is a similar case to Chione, his posts are not full of fluff but I get a scum!jack vibe from them. I have to go now but I'll try to come back later! |
Apr 20, 2017 5:54 PM
#1124
Oyasumi_Rosie said: No he is just a cop right? a role blocker It is pretty clear they are a 3rd party converter not sure where you got the cop part from, |
Apr 20, 2017 6:04 PM
#1125
Ruu said: Okkay, no quotes because I'm on mobile atm. Townreads ( based on the ratio between fluff/helpful posts, the content of them and the interaction with other players trying to scumhunt/get reads) Penta / grrr Scummy (based on fluff/helpful posts, reasons behind votes) Lamb / Jack / Chione vote: Lamb Okay let me explain. I'm voting for lamb because he was a complete ghost (even more than me) at first and then when he appeared his posts had more fluff than actual useful information. His vote on grrr was weak imo. And his later input didn't give me town vibes. Chione is different, her posts are good but I don't see a townie behind them. She also defends lamb a lot from logic in the beginning which seemed odd to me. And I can see a lamb/Chione team. Jack is a similar case to Chione, his posts are not full of fluff but I get a scum!jack vibe from them. I have to go now but I'll try to come back later! I want to understand the town read on grr here, since you seem to base it off value of posts and how much they scum hunted, Penta I can agree with off that but not grr so explain this one. Onto the other side what about about lamb posts made you get a scum vibe. On the bits about me and Chione why do they not appear as town to you, it is easy to do vague statements like this but if you want people to follow your reads it needs more. Also you say a Chione Lamb team is that not a bit obv why would they be that open about it, and just because someone defends someone it fdoes not mean they are on same team. Also out of everyone in this game, why did you only pick us five. I would expect you to have thoughts on Shinichi, Logic who were both pretty active and also to a lesser degree on Grape. I can understand less reads on others though. |
Apr 20, 2017 6:05 PM
#1126
Ruu said: Okkay, no quotes because I'm on mobile atm. Townreads ( based on the ratio between fluff/helpful posts, the content of them and the interaction with other players trying to scumhunt/get reads) Penta / grrr Scummy (based on fluff/helpful posts, reasons behind votes) Lamb / Jack / Chione vote: Lamb Okay let me explain. I'm voting for lamb because he was a complete ghost (even more than me) at first and then when he appeared his posts had more fluff than actual useful information. His vote on grrr was weak imo. And his later input didn't give me town vibes. Chione is different, her posts are good but I don't see a townie behind them. She also defends lamb a lot from logic in the beginning which seemed odd to me. And I can see a lamb/Chione team. Jack is a similar case to Chione, his posts are not full of fluff but I get a scum!jack vibe from them. I have to go now but I'll try to come back later! When you come back can you try and give a specific example of something in one of Jack's posts that make you see scum!Jack? I'm not getting a strong read off the way he is saying things and I would love to hear a read one way or another. |
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Apr 20, 2017 6:08 PM
#1127
Jackrito said: "Targeting someone once Will Roleblock them"It is pretty clear they are a 3rd party converter not sure where you got the cop part from, Hence cop. |
Apr 20, 2017 6:09 PM
#1128
Ruu said: Okkay, no quotes because I'm on mobile atm. Townreads ( based on the ratio between fluff/helpful posts, the content of them and the interaction with other players trying to scumhunt/get reads) Penta / grrr Scummy (based on fluff/helpful posts, reasons behind votes) Lamb / Jack / Chione vote: Lamb Okay let me explain. I'm voting for lamb because he was a complete ghost (even more than me) at first and then when he appeared his posts had more fluff than actual useful information. His vote on grrr was weak imo. And his later input didn't give me town vibes. Chione is different, her posts are good but I don't see a townie behind them. She also defends lamb a lot from logic in the beginning which seemed odd to me. And I can see a lamb/Chione team. Jack is a similar case to Chione, his posts are not full of fluff but I get a scum!jack vibe from them. I have to go now but I'll try to come back later! Another point on this is this a up to date read because 30 mins before you were only on page 5, I would be impressed if you read whole game in that time and were able to get solid reads. I just see these reads as a bit of a rush job to look busy and more town like not to sound too harsh. |
Apr 20, 2017 6:11 PM
#1129
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Jackrito said: "Targeting someone once Will Roleblock them"Oyasumi_Rosie said: No he is just a cop right? a role blocker It is pretty clear they are a 3rd party converter not sure where you got the cop part from, Hence cop. A cop does not roleblock, they check to see if someone is town or scum. Also it says on the rolecard what their role is. |
Apr 20, 2017 7:08 PM
#1131
| Vote: Ruu Miller's have to be sorted out sooner or later. And with the NK being the best possible for us this seems like a good time. And @logic340 I read everything and you keep denying that you're sure or that you are biased about Ruu, but you made 948. That is not the post you make when you're just trying to play devil's advocate and make people think through a lynch before they rush it through. That is aggressively trying to make someone feel bad about a stance you don't agree with In the words of our lord and savior Kendrick: "Sit down. Be humble." You also said Ruu claimed under no pressure, which is very far from true. No immediate pressure because it was a night phase but there had been pressure. My biggest takeaway from your Iso was that you didn't have any issue with soft claiming Miller. I'll say it again, if you are town and claim or hint at it in any way other than full claiming in your first 3 posts you're doing it wrong. |
Apr 20, 2017 7:09 PM
#1132
| I wonder if any connection can be traced from that death. |
Apr 20, 2017 7:12 PM
#1133
Ruu said: Okkay, no quotes because I'm on mobile atm. Townreads ( based on the ratio between fluff/helpful posts, the content of them and the interaction with other players trying to scumhunt/get reads) Penta / grrr Scummy (based on fluff/helpful posts, reasons behind votes) Lamb / Jack / Chione vote: Lamb Okay let me explain. I'm voting for lamb because he was a complete ghost (even more than me) at first and then when he appeared his posts had more fluff than actual useful information. His vote on grrr was weak imo. And his later input didn't give me town vibes. Chione is different, her posts are good but I don't see a townie behind them. She also defends lamb a lot from logic in the beginning which seemed odd to me. And I can see a lamb/Chione team. Jack is a similar case to Chione, his posts are not full of fluff but I get a scum!jack vibe from them. I have to go now but I'll try to come back later! Cool Jester play. Vigshot please. |
Apr 20, 2017 7:15 PM
#1134
logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: I was wondering the same thing thought the first few votes of this phase would go directly to Ruu.whats with the grapefruit votes am i missing something? I don't trust. Ruu is baiting. |
Apr 20, 2017 8:07 PM
#1136
| Time for a worldview post. I'm town and dead townies are town: Grapefruit21 LucianRoy Dead third parties are TPR CorruptedPurity logic being difficult and his stance on Ruu is making me doubt everything, but his interactions with Qoco felt strongly town as I can't imagine scum making up a reason to scum read someone like that. I have my doubts given his position on the the lucian train, but I really struggle to see scum logic going at Qoco over that interaction. I agree with the idea that Penta hammering Lucian the way they did is most likely town motivated. Also generally strong posts, such as taking the correct stance on grrr's fishing, 413, and the progression on Lucian in 618. And I've done a 180 on Shinichi and have a decent town lean on him. I liked his posting overnight especially his back and forth with logic and his bolded responses to the Ruu ISO. logic Penta Shinichi Then we come to the people with a few town + things going for them, but not enough that I'm comfortable putting them in with the above group. Lam-B: 554 and the quoted exchange in 601 are good, but I need more. I like just about every post Jackrito has made, but none of them really stick with me. I don't have any huge +++ in my notes, but a lot of yup that sounds good. Which scares me because last time that was the case Jack won the game as scum... Still I'm not going to look consistent town behavior in the mouth and turn it away. Jack's spot on the wagon also worries me. Lam-b Jackrito Then we have the nulls, of which there are way too many. Some of that is on my reading, some of that is on people. Rosie Qoco Karote I tried to Iso Karote last night and quit when there were like three pages of nothing. Ruu I've discussed enough elsewhere, but claimed miller can never be outside the PoE because of that, needs to be sorted sooner rather than later. Ruu And then there were 3. Coelestin, grrr, and aa-dono. Colestin has posted most so her first. After skimming/reading Chione in the Just a Normal Game Penta linked Chione is pretty confident as scum. And I can't really rule them out based on activity/confidence as I was sort of doing D1. Most of their posts are reasonable and they fall into a similar camp to Jack and Penta, but their spot on the wagon is more suspect. Coelestin was organizing it and driving the votes. Before seeing that game I was willing to write them off as town for taking that prominent role, but I'm not comfortable doing so anymore. grrr my stance is the same, they will not be outside the PoE ever and the rolefishing they were doing (and continued to do after they admitted it was to find the doc!!!!) was anti-town. The whole nurse claim seemed reasonable at the time and is enough that grrr isn't at the top of my list, but he's not far behind. aa-dono this one is quick and easy I feel like there is a pretty decent chance they are scum who voted Lucian early and kind of just got stuck with their vote there. It was never a very supported vote and everyone else on the Lucian train has some good evidence pointing towards them being town. Coelestin grrr aa-dono Which gives us a world view that looks like so: Grapefruit21 LucianRoy CorruptedPurity logic Penta Shinichi Lam-b Jackrito Rosie Qoco Karote Coelestin grrr aa-dono Ruu I'm happy lynching anyone below Jackrito right now. |
Apr 20, 2017 8:22 PM
#1137
| 1097 Was the post that really jumped out at me for Shinichi. @aa-dono I know you were unwell part of yesterDay and I hope you're feeling better, but I'm going to need more from you today. What are your thoughts on Ruu? How about your wagon mates on Lucian? Who do you feel is most likely scum outside that pool? @Coelestin same questions minus the imploring for more. @Oyasumi_Rosie enjoy Persona, but save some time for us or replace out. I'm tired of dead weight slots. You're great, but activity is better. @Qoco do you have any thoughts on anything? @Karote Hi, what do you make of logic this game? |
Apr 20, 2017 8:24 PM
#1138
| Okay I missed @Qoco posting while working on my posts. Also they apparenlty took like 45 minutes.... Uggh I'm slow Qoco: do you really think there is a jester in a game with a TPR converter? |
Apr 20, 2017 9:30 PM
#1139
Grapefruit21 said: Yeah, sorry I can't seem to be be up lately T_T@aa-dono I know you were unwell part of yesterDay and I hope you're feeling better, but I'm going to need more from you today. What are your thoughts on Ruu? How about your wagon mates on Lucian? Who do you feel is most likely scum outside that pool? Personally, I don't think she's scum. It's more a feel than anything. Though I don't really care if she gets lynched now. If she's scum, that she gets off easy with people like me and logic thinking that she just plays badly as town. On the chance that I'm wrong, it's on her to prove to everyone if she's town. There's another part of me who finds her scummy. Minus her timings and reasonings, she seems to appeal emotionally. I don't trust that. Overall, unless it's to secure a lynch, I don't see myself voting for her at the moment. I'll get back on the wagon later. Need to do things o/ |
Apr 20, 2017 9:33 PM
#1140
Ruu said: and after I just defended you during the night phase....smh. Okkay, no quotes because I'm on mobile atm. Townreads ( based on the ratio between fluff/helpful posts, the content of them and the interaction with other players trying to scumhunt/get reads) Penta / grrr Scummy (based on fluff/helpful posts, reasons behind votes) Lamb / Jack / Chione vote: Lamb Okay let me explain. I'm voting for lamb because he was a complete ghost (even more than me) at first and then when he appeared his posts had more fluff than actual useful information. His vote on grrr was weak imo. And his later input didn't give me town vibes. Chione is different, her posts are good but I don't see a townie behind them. She also defends lamb a lot from logic in the beginning which seemed odd to me. And I can see a lamb/Chione team. Jack is a similar case to Chione, his posts are not full of fluff but I get a scum!jack vibe from them. I have to go now but I'll try to come back later! Though I tend to agree with you on Penta I would still like you to cite the posts you feel are helpful. Even more so in regards to grrr. What is this pre-flip association you have going on between Lam-B and Chione? I don't even see a team there and I was the one who was in the middle of that situation? What scum vibes is jack giving off? Is this "paranoia" talking or do you have something credible to back this with? You're making my question my judgment with my ISO Ruu. I know you said you would be scum hunting at your pace but it's time to pick ir up a little bit for real. |
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Apr 20, 2017 9:41 PM
#1141
Apr 20, 2017 9:48 PM
#1142
Grapefruit21 said: IDK how you get Penta or grrr as my top town read out of this. I agree that penta has content and what appear to be generally helpful posts but I would like her to cite some of them for us. Even more so in regards to grrr in citing helpful, fluffless posts, with content. I want to see how her mind is working here. I never know what to make of grrr. The more I try the more I feel like I am wrong only ever read him right in NnT. Neutral there. Strongest town read? Probably Jack off tone and a few mindmelds. @logic340 grrr is your top town read in the game? Or am I reading the above wrong. Because I can't wrap my head around not having a stronger town read than grrr at this stage. Edit: @aa-dono life comes first, but I'm eager for you to give your take on who is actually scum here. |
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Apr 20, 2017 10:08 PM
#1143
| Ahhh gotcha, I totally misread that even more so. |
Apr 20, 2017 10:46 PM
#1144
Grapefruit21 said: @Oyasumi_Rosie enjoy Persona, but save some time for us or replace out. I'm tired of dead weight slots. You're great, but activity is better. So last night means nothing? |
Apr 20, 2017 10:56 PM
#1145
logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: Thoughts: #168 - I find this post interesting. Ruu says that she cannot vote Karote due to bad feeling yet that is the reason Lucian was voting Ruu? Though I agree some people are held to different standards so maybe Ruu is right to be concerned about this? I was feeling the same way about neutral reads then and still am now. I agree that people are held to different standards, i also think its a bad way of thinking. I admit the way i hold grrr is prob wrong, but also this game i dont trust him as much as i normally do i would actually be willing to lynch him. Though he did claim some form of doctor right? I like gut feelings tho because normally they can find scum. Is her bad feeling say karote is town or scum though cause it seems like she doesnt wanna vote him under the sunspense hes either a harmful tpr or hes a town role.If she does believe he is scum then why vote lucian over karote? #169 - This isn't really about Ruu just an observation: Penta is on Ruu's head about still being on Lucian on page 4. Why was Penta cool with Karote being on Ruu for 14 pages? This is that different standard I am talking about and why I cannot scum read Ruu with you all right now. She is being held to a much different standard than people like grrr and Karote and I think it's complete and utter bullshit. This is something i can agree with you as i just mentioned the standards part, but you need to understand claiming miller on first post under no pressure is alot more town motivated than claiming miller after having just survived almost being lynched. Now if a cop or whatever investigation role we have checks her they need to decide if shes lieing if they get the results scum. #193 - I really like this post. Many will say it's fake but scum Ruu isn't this relaxed and works a lot harder to look town. I find this post to be very believable. Meta is iffy subject tho!! Also you gotta understand from any towns view point that this post is scummy because we aren't just gonna believe her. This like a free ride kind of post where she doesnt need to put effort but because she posted this people wont have to worry about her lack of activity kind of thing. I get why u town read her for this but i get the exact opposite kind of feeling. #261 - Chione telling Ruu to move her vote off Lucina yet not saying anything to Karote who had a RVS vote our for 14 pages. All i know is now that lucian is actually dead his gut feeling holds alot of weight, thought i still can't answer for chione. #339 - This is how you interrogate grrr not that BS that Karote did that lead to a vote. Now this is just unfair what makes the way she said it any different than me?I straight up asked him for an answer i got nothing. So to say this is proper is just bs and very biased toward u reading her as town #350 - I think I believe her now that I have read this again. She straight up told grrr about him fake claiming as vanilla and that is the role she is can he guess. Miller was kitty mafia Ruu is likely town. Exactly though she saw the role in kitty mafia so its possible shes a traitor role its a huge speculation but possible nonetheless. No one noticed that soft claim not even grrr and at that point she was better off full claiming if people didnt have a soft heart she would have been lynched. #452 - Maybe this is my personal bias but scum Ruu knows better than to come at me on some BS I will nail her to the wall quickly. Thats exactly what is your own bias and yet another meta. I don't care if im town or scum if i want someone lynched ill push for it,if someone is acting questionble ill bring it up. On a serious note your basically saying she has to be town because she didnt push you. #526 - This is a bold proclamation and something I doubt scum Ruu does. Why because it draw attention her way and scum Ruu needs to stay out of the limelight. All scum have to show that they're scum hunting cause if they don't they will eventually get caught, I know because ive been caught as scum for not scum hunting while hiding behind other peoples opinions. #979 - I think there is a lot of truth in this. Maybe a little OoG but I know that she loves being scum with Suzune and I feel like if she was scum here she wouldn't be playing this poorly. Sounds more like a pity cry to me #985 - I have had that feeling a lot in games latterly as well. She made assumptions here because if she had claimed miller role day 1 i wouuld have gave her the same treatment i did with grrr in the other game. This post is pretty much similar to how scum rinto acted when he posted he was the miller which is why it gives me warning bells. my responses are the bold one obviously Thank you for your response it's been so long since someone had actual thoughts about one of my ISO's 1. I honestly think gut feeling, which is hard to explain, is sometime more right than the over thinking we do. I mean at that point the only think Karote had done was vote and leave so I am not sure that move would be so justified as you make it sound. Also I don't think she ever outright said he was scum for it 2. I understand the way the roll is supposed to be played. I know there are two outcomes from this claim. a. What you believe she is scum who wanted an out when she was checked. Death Sentence b. What I think she's actually a Miller and played it horribly The timing of her claim doesn't change the fact that if a cop checks her they have to decide whether she is lying or not 3. The thing is we're allowed to feel differently about posts. We have different experiences in mafia and different experiences with Ruu. I know meta is an "iffy" subject because I don't just take everyone's meta at face value either. you don't know if you can trust me this game so you feel like I could be skewing results to fit my narrative I get that. I will work on articulating things better. 4. Lucian didn't think Ruu was scum before he died and right now she's going to open the phase with a lot of votes on her. 5. I really don't think it is unfair. He asked grrr one question. Ruu asked the same question then asked other question relating to the game. Which behavior do you find scummy? Asking someone how they feel about being lynched then voting them for not answering said question or asking someone if they are trying to get themselves killed and asks him why he is role fishing (a question related to getting himself killed and the game). 6. grrr wasn't the traitor in Kitty Mafia though so how do you equate that to traitor role? I am not seeing the correlation but I guess anything is possible. Also the traitor role was Judas who didn't know they were traitor to my knowledge. 7. Scum hunting puts you in the spotlight? Scum hunting is a way to shake suspicion, not scum hunting is what got suspicion on her no? 8. The thing is we're allowed to feel differently about posts. I guess we'll see when she flips. 9. While you may have treated Ruu the same would everyone else have? You know Grapefruit wont let that shit go until she's dead. I struggle to see the scum motivation in claiming Miller there knowing it's a death sentence. my responses are numbered obviously 1.gut feeling is prob the best path, either way karote one of the people im gonna pressure and ill also want to hear more from ruu's gut feeling. 2.I believe A is more possible because if she really was worried about B then why not claim at the start of the game. 3.Yep exactly, its why people try to avoid meta in the first place becaucse others intepret it differently. 4.Apparently not lol grape took that role 5.I think both are wrong tbf 6.I equate it cause traitor role is the same as miller its just scum aligned that the mafia dont know about. Thats one of the issue town have with that role. 7.Idk i most supicious of her posts and that iso. 8.true 9.Well if she claimed miller after she was check then she def be lynched lol. |
Apr 20, 2017 11:00 PM
#1146
PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: whats with the grapefruit votes am i missing something? Good question. I don't really have an answer There goes any town cred i had on you lol, why wont someone for no reason on day 2 |
Apr 20, 2017 11:08 PM
#1147
| Mini ISO on dono Properly enters the thread at 260 with a big reads and catchup post. And there are few odd inconsistencies. The first is the progression on me. "#70 - Grapefruit starts pressuring grrr for the vote on Coel (#56) #78 - Suspicious of grrr and Qoco [have to check about Qoco]. The suspicion on grr based on his fluff vote is suspicious. Feels like he picks what may seem scummy, disregarding intentions in other posts. #81 - Explained susp on Qoco: due to absence of vote. No comment. Used to do that as well since standard is to vote. Views grrr vote-statement as fear mongering. #194 - If CP wasn't an emotional player, I would have seen this as town. But ok, for now.. maybe not scum. (Or maybe a TPR who wants scum dead so much he's emotional?)" that is not a particularly townie progression, and they say as much in liking Coelestin's vote on me. When asked about it later they cited 194, which isn't given a ringing endorsement here, as the post that swung their opinion. The kicker, 194 had nothing to do with CPurity... Then they vote lucian but give this progression in their reads: "#79] - LucianRoy - actually liking this question. Shows Lucian picking up on actual suspicion > moving from RVS #95 - Baiting grrr with meta. #183 - One more grrr. Seems set on grrr rather than actually believing Grapefruit." Again they clarified that it was more points two and 3 outweighing 1 which was a positive. And that was enough for them to hop on the Lucian train as the fourth vote. 3 lines of posts, two of which were a joke/taunt. That is an incredibly flimsy reasoning. So aa-dono cited roughly 2 posts of mine they didn't like, 1 they liked for reasons that make no sense and then voted Lucian based off two posts, one of which was town read by others (I think it was Penta who liked that calling attention to his vote being worse than mine post which was 183), they then left there vote there as the wagon disintegrated and reformed without really giving too much more to the case. Next major post is 509 where they engage with Penta to discuss the Lucian read. My major takeaway from it is the unwillingness to take a stand. Which I understand can happen when you're disengaged from the game because real life is in the way, but in that case you probably shouldn't leave your vote if you're unsure. Next big post is another major catch up post with lot's of links 536 and this one gives me a bit of pause because all the questions are solid. Still not really campaigning for the Lucian lynch or unvoting though. This is the last meaningful post before the phase change, they still aren't pushing Lucian in a big way or unvoting. In fact this and shortly before it they spent a lot of effort trying to unknot Ruu, but like logic seeming to come at it from the idea that Ruu is town. Which just confuses me. Like I want to say easy game scum team is Ruu, logic, dono for protecting each other, but that makes no sense at all on any level except the confidence I just can't understand on Ruu being town. Anyway my major takeaway from this is dono hopped onto a hot wagon. Did not leave when it went cold, but never pushed for it in a big way. Even their convo with Penta that is the closest they came to pushing it feels half hearted. If I didn't have such a good feeling about Ruu being scum I'd be happy to vote dono at this point. ------------------- Reading while posting @Oyasumi_Rosie it's not that last night meant nothing it's more that doesn't give you a pass to have another day like D1. Though I'd have to reread to see how much you actually did last night. The only part that left an impression on me was your on point meme'ing. I don't pay as much attention to nights tbh. |
Apr 20, 2017 11:14 PM
#1148
| Ughh that dono case is horribly messy. I need to remember to put all the links at the beginning and not disperse them around like I want to for readability. Legibility is more important... |
Apr 20, 2017 11:21 PM
#1149
Apr 20, 2017 11:38 PM
#1150
| Going to take a nap. I have laundry to do in a little while hopefully I can be on with @Lam-B tonight? |
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