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Shinichi-Kun said:


Huh but hes not immune to bullets lol, so ur both ok with shooting lamb but not shooting the miller is that correct?

Coelestin said:
Lmfao. If Ruu is scum then grrr is scum too. Great.

Karote said:
Tunneling on Ruu, pls no :(

Coelestin said:
Lmfao. If Ruu is scum then grrr is scum too. Great.

Shinichi-Kun said:


Huh but hes not immune to bullets lol, so ur both ok with shooting lamb but not shooting the miller is that correct?

logic340 said:


When has Rosie ever taken a game seriously though?

logic340 said:
Too late hopefully it will end with the night phase and we can actually accomplish something.

Hmm....if Ruu is town then grrr could still be scum. Seen him White Knight CP as scum before.

Oyasumi_Rosie said:
Yeah, duh. Killing the miller is fine too if you wanna. Personally I think the vig shouldn't shot tonight if they are a one shot. If they have more then when then the they can blow their fucking load lol

logic340 said:
Is that what you got from my post Shinichi or are you just trying to paint me in a bad light? All I did was highlight the answer to the question Jack asked since it was in the post he quoted.

grrr said:
But you said that I am town, so Ruu is town as well?

grrr said:


Yeah but in that game CP was town.

grrr said:
But you said that I am town, so Ruu is town as well?

logic340 said:

Hmm....if Ruu is town then grrr could still be scum. Seen him White Knight CP as scum before.

Coelestin said:

Nopesies.


Yeah, if she is town. Which is highly doubtful. But we'll see hopefully during the phase change.

logic340 said:
Even it this gets tested and someone reveal the results what does it tell us? and what role should test it? If the person gets no results we learn the claim is the truth but not their alignment. If the person gets results then the claim is false and depending on the role who checked him we get knowledge of alignment?

@Suzune-chan if a role targets a Ascetic do they get a role block message or just no results?

Suzune-chan said:
I will not speculate in the topic about any potential roles as that is unfair to anyone if they wish to claim something.

Shinichi-Kun said:
@logic340 also hasnt karote pretty much answered everything uve said?

Shinichi-Kun said:


lmfao



well i made that assumption because u took the time to point it out lol

logic340 said:
Her answer is the Bolded.

Jackrito said:


That is not really a solid reason unless they is reason to suspect them. I knew the confirm bit but need more then that

logic340 said:
Shift what blame? Should we only focus our attention on one spot? If you bring up something else does it mean you are shifting the blame? I digress....

Can you please quote examples of this anti-town D1 behavior you are speaking of please?

I don't disagree with you just saying it's not the only place to look and people who want to look else where shouldn't face more scrutiny.

logic340 said:
Why are you being so difficult. Post #966 come before #967.

Also post #966 isn't directed solely at Karote it's for the entire group as it's something I routinely run into.

Shinichi-Kun said:


No obviously not but right now that train is the main focus because people still have questions about it and who was on it and why they were on it.

Anti town d1 behavior? U mean like claiming roles and stuff?

They shouldn't but they can and will at times lol.

Idk what ya want from me lol i dont answer every question i am asked on top of that i also tend to miss questions.

As for karote he doesnt have to answer ur questions desnt mean hes ignoring them just prob has nothing to say to them.

Shinichi-Kun said:


No obviously not but right now that train is the main focus because people still have questions about it and who was on it and why they were on it.

Anti town d1 behavior? U mean like claiming roles and stuff?

They shouldn't but they can and will at times lol.

Idk what ya want from me lol i dont answer every question i am asked on top of that i also tend to miss questions.

As for karote he doesnt have to answer ur questions desnt mean hes ignoring them just prob has nothing to say to them.

Shinichi-Kun said:


I skipped posst 966 cause 67 was easier to respond to and i had to go somewhere.

logic340 said:

My focus is everyone in the game. Ruu's train could have scum on it too for all we know. I am not saying don't look into the train I am saying don't get stuck in the tunnel with Ruu and have D2 be useless when it comes to everyone else.

Claiming a role was a N1 Behavior. I am asking you for anti-town D1 behavior (something specific to Ruu and not others that is being overlooked).

They shouldn't so we should help make sure the focus is spread around no?

What you can do is answer the questions asked of you before retorting a question back at me.

You know it's funny that Karote votes grrr for not answering his BS question that has nothing to do with the game and you town read him yet people don't have to answer my questions? This is the shit that frustrates me as town because my effort seems to go unnoticed by my fellow townies. Makes me want to say fuck it and go straight Rinto mode for real. Especially when I have company at the house and am ignoring them trying to appease you lot.

ok....so yeah I think I will try to get my post count closer to Karote's from D1 since that is acceptable to most.

Coelestin said:
Actually, I'm stupid. I just noticed that most of the meta I have on grrr is based on two scum games with him and one town game in which his plans were just horrible. Forget everything I said, my reads are horrific in this game. You guys were right.

Coelestin said:
Actually, I'm stupid. I just noticed that most of the meta I have on grrr is based on two scum games with him and one town game in which his plans were just horrible. Forget everything I said, my reads are horrific in this game. You guys were right.

Suzune-chan said:
@LucianRoy, Okay love, you are done now~

Jackrito said:
Pay no attention to me actually I was been a dumbass, Chione is right that death looks pretty town, now I have stopped overthinking it and been paraniod. I would say inheritor is a town role and my guess would be they act like a backup they is another role like it cant remember the name but you take the role of whatever died first. A bit weird to have that confirmed though since now when someone claims it they is no reaosn to doubt it, which makes me doubt the role.

logic340 said:

Logic out!

CorruptedPurity said:

Vig shoot her. Just shoot, dont ask questions.

grrr said:

I don't buy that either >.> .

Oyasumi_Rosie said:
HELLO I JUST GOT PERSONA 5 I WILL BE GONE SORRY SORRY

Chione said:
However, even grrr is human

PentaFlare said:
Ascetic is like Miller. It is always a town role, but can be fakeclaimed to avoid being investigated. It's even more powerful a fakeclaim because nobody will roleblock you.

grrr said:
@logic ^ not gonna read that : D

PentaFlare said:
Playing badly is when you a player is simply wrong about their approach, like when grrr was convinced that anyone who claimed a basic role would be town or when he voted me for refusing to answer him. That's bad play, because it is just the wrong approach, but Ruu's is scummy play.

logic340 said:
You know me too well
I want a detailed spoiler free review. But I would really like to hear your opinion on the current game state.

CorruptedPurity said:
From logic and grrr defending ruu crazy...

If she flips town, logic is most prob scum, grrr is most prob scum.

If she flips scum, logic is most prob town, grrr is most prob town.

They both seem awfully sure Ruu isn't mafia. Logic's main reason being "Ruu can't be that bad as scum to act all fishy all day then claim miller at night" Like bruh, this is wine material from the start. Idk, that's my opinion.

@logic340 I see you haven't fully embraced the Rinto yet...

CorruptedPurity said:
From logic and grrr defending ruu crazy...

If she flips town, logic is most prob scum, grrr is most prob scum.

If she flips scum, logic is most prob town, grrr is most prob town.

They both seem awfully sure Ruu isn't mafia. Logic's main reason being "Ruu can't be that bad as scum to act all fishy all day then claim miller at night" Like bruh, this is wine material from the start. Idk, that's my opinion.

@logic340 I see you haven't fully embraced the Rinto yet...

grrr said:


You are kidding right? First I dont see why ascetic wouldn't be a mafia role, but lets say you are right and it is always town role. Then a simple ability use on the ascetic claimer will confirm if it is town or not. I don't understand what you are trying to say.

PentaFlare said:

Ascetic is too powerful as a scum role unless an additional modifier is added saying that they cannot perform the fractional kill or they will lose the modifier. Having the ascetic ability and making the fractional kill is extremely powerful. The only way to balance against this is to have a lot of resilience within the town, so if we start seeing flips that show that kind of resilience, then the ascetic claim is worth looking into.

logic340 said:
Being that I am not all that familiar with roles what. What kind of things should I be looking for that would be considered resilience to Ascetic?

logic340 said:

Thoughts:
#168 - I find this post interesting. Ruu says that she cannot vote Karote due to bad feeling yet that is the reason Lucian was voting Ruu? Though I agree some people are held to different standards so maybe Ruu is right to be concerned about this? I was feeling the same way about neutral reads then and still am now.

I agree that people are held to different standards, i also think its a bad way of thinking. I admit the way i hold grrr is prob wrong, but also this game i dont trust him as much as i normally do i would actually be willing to lynch him. Though he did claim some form of doctor right? I like gut feelings tho because normally they can find scum. Is her bad feeling say karote is town or scum though cause it seems like she doesnt wanna vote him under the sunspense hes either a harmful tpr or hes a town role.If she does believe he is scum then why vote lucian over karote?

#169 - This isn't really about Ruu just an observation: Penta is on Ruu's head about still being on Lucian on page 4. Why was Penta cool with Karote being on Ruu for 14 pages? This is that different standard I am talking about and why I cannot scum read Ruu with you all right now. She is being held to a much different standard than people like grrr and Karote and I think it's complete and utter bullshit.

This is something i can agree with you as i just mentioned the standards part,
but you need to understand claiming miller on first post under no pressure is alot more town motivated than claiming miller after having just survived almost being lynched. Now if a cop or whatever investigation role we have checks her they need to decide if shes lieing if they get the results scum.

#193 - I really like this post. Many will say it's fake but scum Ruu isn't this relaxed and works a lot harder to look town. I find this post to be very believable.

Meta is iffy subject tho!! Also you gotta understand from any towns view point that this post is scummy because we aren't just gonna believe her. This like a free ride kind of post where she doesnt need to put effort but because she posted this people wont have to worry about her lack of activity kind of thing. I get why u town read her for this but i get the exact opposite kind of feeling.

#261 - Chione telling Ruu to move her vote off Lucina yet not saying anything to Karote who had a RVS vote our for 14 pages.

All i know is now that lucian is actually dead his gut feeling holds alot of weight, thought i still can't answer for chione.

#339 - This is how you interrogate grrr not that BS that Karote did that lead to a vote.

Now this is just unfair what makes the way she said it any different than me?I straight up asked him for an answer i got nothing. So to say this is proper is just bs and very biased toward u reading her as town

#350 - I think I believe her now that I have read this again. She straight up told grrr about him fake claiming as vanilla and that is the role she is can he guess. Miller was kitty mafia Ruu is likely town.

Exactly though she saw the role in kitty mafia so its possible shes a traitor role its a huge speculation but possible nonetheless. No one noticed that soft claim not even grrr and at that point she was better off full claiming if people didnt have a soft heart she would have been lynched.

#452 - Maybe this is my personal bias but scum Ruu knows better than to come at me on some BS I will nail her to the wall quickly.

Thats exactly what is your own bias and yet another meta. I don't care if im town or scum if i want someone lynched ill push for it,if someone is acting questionble ill bring it up. On a serious note your basically saying she has to be town because she didnt push you.

#526 - This is a bold proclamation and something I doubt scum Ruu does. Why because it draw attention her way and scum Ruu needs to stay out of the limelight.

All scum have to show that they're scum hunting cause if they don't they will eventually get caught, I know because ive been caught as scum for not scum hunting while hiding behind other peoples opinions.

#979 - I think there is a lot of truth in this. Maybe a little OoG but I know that she loves being scum with Suzune and I feel like if she was scum here she wouldn't be playing this poorly.

Sounds more like a pity cry to me

#985 - I have had that feeling a lot in games latterly as well.

She made assumptions here because if she had claimed miller role day 1 i wouuld have gave her the same treatment i did with grrr in the other game. This post is pretty much similar to how scum rinto acted when he posted he was the miller which is why it gives me warning bells.

grrr said:


You are kidding right? First I dont see why ascetic wouldn't be a mafia role, but lets say you are right and it is always town role. Then a simple ability use on the ascetic claimer will confirm if it is town or not. I don't understand what you are trying to say.

PentaFlare said:

Basically, what makes the ascetic so strong as scum is the ability to make a nightkill without being roleblocked or tracked. To counter this, town would have roles like a watcher, doctor/nurse, bulletproof, anything that reveals their killer upon death, or something of the like. There needs to be something that either not dies or can investigate the killer without directly targeting them. If grrr is telling the truth, that is already a step towards the kind of town roles that would counter a scum ascetic.

grrr said:
I feel odd since I am on the same side with logic on defending Ruu but, anyway I will try my best to not let Ruu die any time soon.

Also I will protect anyone who claim a classic role. Mafia please just claim it. I will not ever let you get lynched if you claim a classic role tomorrow.