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Apr 19, 2017 11:31 AM

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aa-dono said:
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Would it have sit well with you if I had done it? Cause I would've if Jack wouldn't have done it.
Not sure. Since you didn't actually do it, there's no way to know :P

Then again, why wouldn't you vote her now that Jack has?

Well, I would have had to choose between abandoning my vote on CP and voting for Ruu or just keeping it there.

This is ridiculous. If Ruu doesn't die today, she should be vig-shot if her come back isn't convincing. Keeping her around is too dangerous.

Anyways, 4 1/2 hours left.

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I am a nurse... and just that. no modifiers. I believe there is simple doctor with no modifiers in the game who just didn't want to put his name in the classic town roles list so I can know he is town.

Wow. I refuse to believe that scum would come up with something like this. Grrr is town.

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Vote change: grr

@grrr, we got you scum.

I thought you wanted to leave troll grrr alone?
Apr 19, 2017 11:31 AM

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Change Vote: Ruu

Wazzah!
Apr 19, 2017 11:32 AM

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Coelestin said:
This is ridiculous. If Ruu doesn't die today, she should be vig-shot if her come back isn't convincing. Keeping her around is too dangerous.

Qoco is on the case.
Apr 19, 2017 11:35 AM

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Was he town or scum that that game though. If you aren't going to give us that then why is this information relevant to this game?


The game hasn't ended so I'm not sure. It's relevant to this game, because just like everyone else, he's pulling reasons to suspect people out his ass. This includes using previous games as a base to scum read people in this one. Information between games shouldn't be backwards compatible.
The "he" in question was me though? Werent you saying I seemed like I was going to cry in the last game? You know what my alignment was you can say it. Which brings us to the question I asked. "If you aren't going to give us that then why is this information relevant to this game?"
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Apr 19, 2017 11:38 AM

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Is not that I want you to vote. I ask you to questioned people and make reads. I already explained the list.


Turning the topic back on me doesn't answer questions. You're sure that one person in there is scum, but you refused to vote and create pressure. Your actions don't match with your words.
Can you link where Ruu wanted you to vote at? This is the quote I found and it says nothing about voting so why are you attributing people wanting you to vote to Ruu? These types of posts stand outto me as slander since you are misrepresenting her while she is already a leading suspect and looking like a viable lynch option for the day. All this does imo is take credibility away form the scum reads and especially any that yo might be making against her at this time.

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Can we talk about the ghost in this game aka @Qoco ? Please appear and make some reads, questions,something. I don't like lurkers, I'll vote you if you don't start scum hunting.

I'm starting to have second thoughts about logic, his way of defending people reminds me of scum!logic, but he was angrier when town so Idk. Meta confuses me.
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Apr 19, 2017 11:40 AM

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logic340 said:
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The game hasn't ended so I'm not sure. It's relevant to this game, because just like everyone else, he's pulling reasons to suspect people out his ass. This includes using previous games as a base to scum read people in this one. Information between games shouldn't be backwards compatible.
The "he" in question was me though? Werent you saying I seemed like I was going to cry in the last game? You know what my alignment was you can say it. Which brings us to the question I asked. "If you aren't going to give us that then why is this information relevant to this game?"


... What? "He" is grapefruit. If I'm talking to you, then I'm using "you". I'm basing it off of this game.

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Bit of both. Qoco it was the activity without placing a vote. Nothing reads wrong, but not placing a vote rubs me the wrong way.


I can't tell if you're serious or you're trolling.
Apr 19, 2017 11:51 AM

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Coelestin said:

I thought you wanted to leave troll grrr alone?

I honestly thought it is not worthy but you asked for it!


Apr 19, 2017 11:53 AM

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Coelestin said:
Wow. I refuse to believe that scum would come up with something like this. Grrr is town.


Now that we cleared this up, lets get grapfruit.
Apr 19, 2017 11:57 AM

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grrr said:
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I thought you wanted to leave troll grrr alone?

I honestly thought it is not worthy but you asked for it!


I can't xDDDDD
Get 100 peeps to sign it and I'll change it back xD

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Wow. I refuse to believe that scum would come up with something like this. Grrr is town.


Now that we cleared this up, lets get grapfruit.

Fine. Vote: Grapefruit21
Apr 19, 2017 12:03 PM

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Vote: Shinichi I agree that grrr is probably town based on that claim. Willing to vote ruu as well, but feel better about Shinichi.

@grrr why am I scum? I don't think you have shared a case? Who are your top town reads?
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I have to go to work soon. I might check up on my phone. Be back later.
Apr 19, 2017 12:04 PM

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Vote: Shinichi I agree that grrr is probably town based on that claim. Willing to vote ruu as well, but feel better about Shinichi.

@grrr why am I scum? I don't think you have shared a case? Who are your top town reads?


You look less blood thirsty than usual.
Apr 19, 2017 12:14 PM

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Let me bold the chain of events because you don't seem to understand what I am getting at here. Everything that I have bolded is in regards to me. So how could you be talking to Grapefruit about me then tell me the "he" is Grapefruit? No it clearly isn't grapefruit it is me and the game in question isn't over but my alignment is known so you wont be breaking any rule in talking about an ongoing game. So please do answer the question you brought up the last game you played with me now it's to make the reason for brining it up relevant.
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Apr 19, 2017 12:18 PM

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So case on Shinichi, his three town reads list was incredibly anemic and non committal, he spent the entire RVS poking holes in leads without adding alternative paths, he's been unwilling to commit to a vote or show any confidence in a read, and his flip flop on how to handle grrr digging for information makes no sense.

@grrr last game I got lynched largely for being more aggressive (my stupid warning post set logic on my track) than usual...
Apr 19, 2017 12:19 PM

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I can't tell if you're serious or you're trolling.
I wonder if this is a scum tell for you. When you said this to me in our previous game it's what tipped me off that you were actually scum....thinking now especially with the mistake you made in regards to talking about me. I am liking Qoco for scum more and more on these most recent pages.
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Apr 19, 2017 12:20 PM

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@grapefruit sure but it wasn't me who lynched you I believe. If you are right then i will have no followers with my vote on you so you should be okay.
Apr 19, 2017 12:43 PM

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grrr said:
@grapefruit sure but it wasn't me who lynched you I believe. If you are right then i will have no followers with my vote on you so you should be okay.

You were scum and didn't have to read me one way or another.

Anyway thoughts on Shinici and still waiting on your top three town reads.

@logic340 do you have any thoughts on the main wagons? If not can you explain your qoco read because I can't follow you at all.
Apr 19, 2017 12:45 PM

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@grapefruit shinichi is mafia. Chione, Karote, Ruu and Qoco are town.
Apr 19, 2017 12:45 PM

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logic340 said:

Let me bold the chain of events because you don't seem to understand what I am getting at here. Everything that I have bolded is in regards to me. So how could you be talking to Grapefruit about me then tell me the "he" is Grapefruit? No it clearly isn't grapefruit it is me and the game in question isn't over but my alignment is known so you wont be breaking any rule in talking about an ongoing game. So please do answer the question you brought up the last game you played with me now it's to make the reason for brining it up relevant.


Boy, I'm not reading that big ass quote tower, especially after you bolded everything up. Stop being so defensive and calm down. Just because your name is in it, it doesn't mean that it's about you. It's regarding the intention behind it.
Apr 19, 2017 12:46 PM

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Read Qoco as CP. I made a typo. Qoco is very mafia.
Apr 19, 2017 2:09 PM

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Okay, all linked vote counts coming!

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Apr 19, 2017 2:14 PM

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Vote Count 1.12
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Ruu: Karote, CorruptedPurity, Qoco
LucianRoy: Jackrito, Aa-dono
Grrr:LucianRoy, Lam-B,
Grapefruit21: Oyasumi_Rosie, Grrr, Coelestin,
Shinchi-kun: Grapefruit21

Those not voting
Ruu, Logic340, Shinichi-Kun, Pentaflare

I'm going to be super on top of vote counts until the end
When does the phase end?

What has already transpired
Phase Day one! || Vote count 1.1 || 1.2 || 1.3 || 1.4 || 1.5 || 1.6 || 1.7 || 1.8 || 1.9 || 1.10 || 1.11 || 1.12

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Apr 19, 2017 2:18 PM

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@Suzune-chan I unvoted
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Apr 19, 2017 2:18 PM

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Apologises! I fixed it now!

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Apr 19, 2017 2:19 PM

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Can someone explain the grapefruit case to me? All I am seeing right now is a difference in playstyle and that seems like a really weak reason for a lynch
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Apr 19, 2017 2:23 PM

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@grapefruit21 hi \o I see you suspect me yet again lol for very bland reasons.

I only got 10 mins so won't be here for phase change rather now have a quick hammer on me whole I'm gone tyvm


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@grapefruit sure but it wasn't me who lynched you I believe. If you are right then i will have no followers with my vote on you so you should be okay.

You were scum and didn't have to read me one way or another.

Anyway thoughts on Shinici and still waiting on your top three town reads.

@logic340 do you have any thoughts on the main wagons? If not can you explain your qoco read because I can't follow you at all.
My read on Qoco is neutral. I just find his intereaction with me weird and as I said the only time I saw him say exactly what he said to you about being trolled is when he was scum I was town and we were having an argument. At the end of it he said exactly what he said to you. So if he flips scum then I would consider that a tell for him when he gets frustrated as mafia as of now it's nothing major. In regards to my interaction with him. He said I almost cried in the last game he played with me. You asked him what relevance that had to this game. He says he doesn't know if I am emotional as town (which is a lie because he was scum an knows I was town). So since I saw him lying I asked him about myself in third person. Then he switches and says he was talking about you (Grapefruit) when he was in fact talking about me (caught in another lie). I should probably be voting here after typing this up but I know I am biased because it's about me.
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Apr 19, 2017 2:26 PM

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PentaFlare said:
Can someone explain the grapefruit case to me? All I am seeing right now is a difference in playstyle and that seems like a really weak reason for a lynch


Outside of the ruuu and grrr cases most are weak. I feel like every time i call grapefruit out or more anything against him I instantly get omgused by him


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All vote counts has been added. @Aa-dono

They are both in the voting list and on the first page.

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Apr 19, 2017 2:32 PM

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@logic340 do you have any thoughts on the main wagons?
I can definitely see why people are suspicious of Ruu. I am not a really big fan of any of the people on the train so if she flipped town it's probably the first train I would look into.
Grapefruit train has Rosie's RVS (hope RVS doesn't kill you today), grrr (never know what to think of his votes), and Chione (who I need to look into why they are voting you). Chione is probably the most credible though I have them in neutral as I try to build my read slowly. I am not getting the scum vibes I got from her in TGT but I know she is a great player from that experience.
Honestly don't think I like either of the top two leading trains.
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Apr 19, 2017 2:35 PM

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Vote: Qoco
Got something close to a scum read on the lead train looks like a good place to vote.
I want to here others thoughts on my interaction with Qoco and what his two lies mean for his alignment? How was playing ignorant about my town playstyle going to benefit him as town or scum?
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I am a nurse... and just that. no modifiers. I believe there is simple doctor with no modifiers in the game who just didn't want to put his name in the classic town roles list so I can know he is town.

Wow. I refuse to believe that scum would come up with something like this. Grrr is town.

Could you delve on this a bit?
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Apr 19, 2017 2:42 PM

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grrr said:
Hm, we have 4 hours. I think this is enough time to lynch a mafia. I wont give them Ruu for free.

vote: Grapefruit I dont even like the taste.

Also, why grapefruit? What about them has you convinced?
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Apr 19, 2017 2:43 PM

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Coelestin said:
grrr said:


Now that we cleared this up, lets get grapfruit.

Fine. Vote: Grapefruit21

Am I missing something?
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Apr 19, 2017 2:45 PM

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I can't tell if you're serious or you're trolling.
I wonder if this is a scum tell for you. When you said this to me in our previous game it's what tipped me off that you were actually scum....thinking now especially with the mistake you made in regards to talking about me. I am liking Qoco for scum more and more on these most recent pages.

Umm, you realise that's a joke right? he's being ironic, im preh certain
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Apr 19, 2017 2:51 PM

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logic340 said:
Grapefruit21 said:

You were scum and didn't have to read me one way or another.

Anyway thoughts on Shinici and still waiting on your top three town reads.

@logic340 do you have any thoughts on the main wagons? If not can you explain your qoco read because I can't follow you at all.
My read on Qoco is neutral. I just find his intereaction with me weird and as I said the only time I saw him say exactly what he said to you about being trolled is when he was scum I was town and we were having an argument. At the end of it he said exactly what he said to you. So if he flips scum then I would consider that a tell for him when he gets frustrated as mafia as of now it's nothing major. In regards to my interaction with him. He said I almost cried in the last game he played with me. You asked him what relevance that had to this game. He says he doesn't know if I am emotional as town (which is a lie because he was scum an knows I was town). So since I saw him lying I asked him about myself in third person. Then he switches and says he was talking about you (Grapefruit) when he was in fact talking about me (caught in another lie). I should probably be voting here after typing this up but I know I am biased because it's about me.

It seems very clear to me that he was talking about grapefruit and not you. You are simply misreading.
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Can someone explain the grapefruit case to me? All I am seeing right now is a difference in playstyle and that seems like a really weak reason for a lynch


Outside of the ruuu and grrr cases most are weak. I feel like every time i call grapefruit out or more anything against him I instantly get omgused by him

where'd this happen?

logic340 said:
Grapefruit21 said:

You were scum and didn't have to read me one way or another.

Anyway thoughts on Shinici and still waiting on your top three town reads.

@logic340 do you have any thoughts on the main wagons? If not can you explain your qoco read because I can't follow you at all.
My read on Qoco is neutral. I just find his intereaction with me weird and as I said the only time I saw him say exactly what he said to you about being trolled is when he was scum I was town and we were having an argument. At the end of it he said exactly what he said to you. So if he flips scum then I would consider that a tell for him when he gets frustrated as mafia as of now it's nothing major. In regards to my interaction with him. He said I almost cried in the last game he played with me. You asked him what relevance that had to this game. He says he doesn't know if I am emotional as town (which is a lie because he was scum an knows I was town). So since I saw him lying I asked him about myself in third person. Then he switches and says he was talking about you (Grapefruit) when he was in fact talking about me (caught in another lie). I should probably be voting here after typing this up but I know I am biased because it's about me.

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Vote: Qoco
Got something close to a scum read on the lead train looks like a good place to vote.
I want to here others thoughts on my interaction with Qoco and what his two lies mean for his alignment? How was playing ignorant about my town playstyle going to benefit him as town or scum?

That was mighty quick.

Also a bit hesitant on grr. I suppose it makes sense now and everything with him wanting to pinpoint the doc, but at the same time, why? Why would he go to such lengths off a hunch to locate a roll better left farrrr under the radar, i dunno. I still want to hear more about this grapefruit push out of left field.
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PentaFlare said:
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My read on Qoco is neutral. I just find his intereaction with me weird and as I said the only time I saw him say exactly what he said to you about being trolled is when he was scum I was town and we were having an argument. At the end of it he said exactly what he said to you. So if he flips scum then I would consider that a tell for him when he gets frustrated as mafia as of now it's nothing major. In regards to my interaction with him. He said I almost cried in the last game he played with me. You asked him what relevance that had to this game. He says he doesn't know if I am emotional as town (which is a lie because he was scum an knows I was town). So since I saw him lying I asked him about myself in third person. Then he switches and says he was talking about you (Grapefruit) when he was in fact talking about me (caught in another lie). I should probably be voting here after typing this up but I know I am biased because it's about me.

It seems very clear to me that he was talking about grapefruit and not you. You are simply misreading.
I highlighted where he said he couldn't talk about the game because it was still ongoing he's not in an onging game with Grapefruit so are you sure I misread it?
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logic340 said:
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It seems very clear to me that he was talking about grapefruit and not you. You are simply misreading.
I highlighted where he said he couldn't talk about the game because it was still ongoing he's not in an onging game with Grapefruit so are you sure I misread it?

But that's not referring to the original point is it? I was pretty sure he was talking with grapefruit at the time he mentioned the crying. I would have to look back to check but that is how I recall it. If not, then it is probably a misunderstanding because if I can see how it would refer to grapefruit then Qoco could easily have intended it that way.
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PentaFlare said:
Can someone explain the grapefruit case to me? All I am seeing right now is a difference in playstyle and that seems like a really weak reason for a lynch

Just finding his reasons a bit forced, tho I'm just stuck myself and don't really know what to do so yeah. I just followed grrr out of curiosity mostly, a bit of boredom to see if grape has something to say after grrr's "outing". Dunno why grrr voted for him though. Grape's still generally falling under the radar so I guess it's not too bad.

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Wow. I refuse to believe that scum would come up with something like this. Grrr is town.

Could you delve on this a bit?

...this sounds like you're role fishing.

Does mafia actually come up with such plans? Is mafia creative enough to come up with such plans? Would they actually take the risk to execute such plans? I wouldn't think so.
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PentaFlare said:
logic340 said:
I highlighted where he said he couldn't talk about the game because it was still ongoing he's not in an onging game with Grapefruit so are you sure I misread it?

But that's not referring to the original point is it? I was pretty sure he was talking with grapefruit at the time he mentioned the crying. I would have to look back to check but that is how I recall it. If not, then it is probably a misunderstanding because if I can see how it would refer to grapefruit then Qoco could easily have intended it that way.
The conversaion was about Logic being emotional how does it turn into grapefruit? Go read it again I bolded the parts that apply to me.

Let me help to clear things up a little bit more
@Grapefruit21 are you and Qoco currently in an ongoing game other than this one?
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logic340 said:
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But that's not referring to the original point is it? I was pretty sure he was talking with grapefruit at the time he mentioned the crying. I would have to look back to check but that is how I recall it. If not, then it is probably a misunderstanding because if I can see how it would refer to grapefruit then Qoco could easily have intended it that way.
The conversaion was about Logic being emotional how does it turn into grapefruit? Go read it again I bolded the parts that apply to me.

Let me help to clear things up a little bit more
@Grapefruit21 are you and Qoco currently in an ongoing game other than this one?

The ongoing game was clearly related to you, but earlier he was talking about an interaction between you and grapefruit which almost led to tears. You could probably interpret it as either person.
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I wonder if this is a scum tell for you. When you said this to me in our previous game it's what tipped me off that you were actually scum....thinking now especially with the mistake you made in regards to talking about me. I am liking Qoco for scum more and more on these most recent pages.

Umm, you realise that's a joke right? he's being ironic, im preh certain
I realize it's the way I caught him as scum the last time I caught him up. He got frustrated and that was his out...."I can't tell if I am being trolled right now?" Maybe he needs to find a different joke as scum because as I said if he flips scum it's a tell in my book.
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The conversaion was about Logic being emotional how does it turn into grapefruit? Go read it again I bolded the parts that apply to me.

Let me help to clear things up a little bit more
@Grapefruit21 are you and Qoco currently in an ongoing game other than this one?

The ongoing game was clearly related to you, but earlier he was talking about an interaction between you and grapefruit which almost led to tears. You could probably interpret it as either person.
Him and Grapefruit are talking about me. He is resping to grapefruit when he says he was about to cry in our previous game. WHat are you not getting here? He was talking about me lied and I caught that shit wtf!!!
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I even bolded it. Why would Grapefruit say he's emotional talking himself?
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Could you delve on this a bit?

...this sounds like you're role fishing.

Uhh, i just want to know why you're taking it at face so quickly.
If I was rolefishing, you'd fekkin know it.

Does mafia actually come up with such plans? Is mafia creative enough to come up with such plans? Would they actually take the risk to execute such plans? I wouldn't think so.

Well, grr has a meta to work by, so it's really not infeasible.

Like, it doesn't make sense to me, am I not adding two and two together? Why would grr, the claimed nurse, want to locate the doc? A role that serves a mighty good purpose if the mafia don't shoot it, and it remains out of their sights. Had it worked, all it would do would confirm, unilaterally a single person to him, if there's even a doctor in this game, (bastard games often pull that kind of rep-role with no original shit). It really didn't achieve anything at all. As a result, grr hasn't scum hunted at all today. Still kinda rubs me wrong.
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logic340 said:
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The ongoing game was clearly related to you, but earlier he was talking about an interaction between you and grapefruit which almost led to tears. You could probably interpret it as either person.
Him and Grapefruit are talking about me. He is resping to grapefruit when he says he was about to cry in our previous game. WHat are you not getting here? He was talking about me lied and I caught that shit wtf!!!

Oh. I guess that makes sense, but seeing it from that perspective I wouldn't say he was lying. It's kind of true. However, it would be a little weird to switch who they are talking about. I'm more inclined to believe it was just a mistake and that he intended to be talking about grapefruit but messed up pronouns.
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@PentaFlare I know you are better than this let me break it down since you are completely missing it

Ruu - says scum!Logic is calm and angrier when town
Purity - Purity tells Ruu she has a point
Grapefruit - Says I was emotional in Alcatraz
Purity - Says I was emotional but collected and tried not to tunnel
Grapefruit - Says I was full emotion when locked into death spiral he will need to reread it
Qoco - Says the last time he played with me he though I was going to cry
Grapefruit - Asks Qoco if he's confirming I am emotional town
Qoco - Say he doesn't know if I am emotional town he has only played one game with me
Logic - I ask if he (logic) was town or scum
Qoco - IDK the game hasn't ended and so I'm not sure

How did this go from talking about me to Grapefruit please explain it to me?
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Apr 19, 2017 3:18 PM

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This Qoco read is the worst read I've ever seen you make in every game we've played together. It has no basis. None of your points show a scummy version of Qoco.

The trolling comment? You yourself admitted it doesn't work as a tell unless it is a recurring motif, which you have only seen once, so it isn't.

Not knowing you are emotional as town? Why would he? I haven't noticed a recent game the two of you have been in that would count for that.

This "lie" you keep bringing up is just misunderstanding. It makes no sense for anyone to do that in general, so it is probably just a mistake, not a slip.

It's all neutral. Where in the world does a scumread come from?
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Apr 19, 2017 3:19 PM

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PentaFlare said:
logic340 said:
Him and Grapefruit are talking about me. He is resping to grapefruit when he says he was about to cry in our previous game. WHat are you not getting here? He was talking about me lied and I caught that shit wtf!!!

Oh. I guess that makes sense, but seeing it from that perspective I wouldn't say he was lying. It's kind of true. However, it would be a little weird to switch who they are talking about. I'm more inclined to believe it was just a mistake and that he intended to be talking about grapefruit but messed up pronouns.
Not really buying the I cant talk about it part because he lied and my alignment will be revealed to anyone who goes and reads that game. He could have said yes that is how town logic acts (emotional) but I cannot tell you why. Like you did in Kitty mafia?? So now I have to wonder why lie about what he knows to be true?
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