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Apr 19, 2017 8:59 AM
#651
| This is why I shouldn't make reads at 2 am... By unvoting I wanted to show that I'm leaning town with Roy. My analysis was to show how my vision of him progressed - Their first posts looked scummy but their latter ones where neutral/townish and made me see his first contribution in another light. I hope this clear things up. Before going to bed I wanted to post a list of the people that I'll focusing on. You don't have to pay attention to it. It was mostly for me since today I'll be rereading their posts to find clues, connections that will give me a better read on them. I'll respond to all the mentions now and then I'll focus on cases. |
Apr 19, 2017 9:05 AM
#652
CorruptedPurity said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? Ya bruh, straight on, I'm also onto CP. Real talk though, my "OK-to-lynch" list for today only consist of Ruu and logic. While I am wary of Lucy, I would prefer to keep him alive first as he could be town and he's good at scumhunting if he's truly town. I once again repeat that an investigative role should check him out. Logic is based off my apparently wrong meta read, but I do think I can sense frustrated town logic, and it didn't show this game when he had a train lead. Ruu is ok up there because the posts she made seemed off and scummish, that ISO on Lucy derailed alot, it went from scumreading him to almost townreading him and then it included 5 ppl who are not Lucy, like ISO is meant to be an isolation, why are others involved? And the nature of which she presented them: "<- One of this must be scum" just seemed off and more like scum than town to me. I don't like a grrr lynch, grrr is ya know, grrr, so let the grrr be a grrr until the point where it he starts causing trouble then maybe I'll look more into him, because doing so now is a waste of my time That said... Vote: Ruu I do have to agree with cp on this bolded part, its pretty much a fall out plan if shes wrong no one can hold it against her since she had 5 people she was interested in. As for the iso as poor as it may be it was still an iso nonetheless |
Apr 19, 2017 9:07 AM
#653
logic340 said: Shinichi doesn't feel like the town Shinichi I've grown accustomed to. He's been very hungry for a town win and I'm just not feeling that here. Hi \o I am still hungry for a town win and i would honestly rather not get mislynched day 1 tyvm |
Apr 19, 2017 9:07 AM
#654
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Lam-B said: More proof, More proof! Lamb reads me like a blind man reads a normal book. If he think I am scum, then I must be town! :3cOyasumi_Rosie said: Ruu said: Good luck good luck. I have lost every game voting for him first and I plan to keep this streak going@Oyasumi_Rosie is this completely rvs or this time you start with a solid case against grape? xD Yo, I haven't seen a single game in which you came close to being a town-read, though I don't think I've seen you as scum. If you could chose not throwing instead, that'd be cool too. Ur not even the top target so why do u care so much lol |
Apr 19, 2017 9:08 AM
#655
aa-dono said: @LucianRoy #323 - :'D I think your posts have a lot of preaching moments too. About what grrr should and should not do. Probably some here or there, but i really tried to focus them on why exactly grr's thought process is illogical and why his bias in information is scummy. #343 - Because of your pushes on each other. Though I would take back me agreeing with logic. Something about Ruu makes me feel like you guys may be aligned after all. Whatcha think about the giant iso analysis they did just to put me back at neutral? #471 - I think Ruu said though initially it was RVS, the vote stayed because she really did scumread you. If you think there are likely scum on your train, who do you think is? Tough to say atm as I always have the tendency to see people on my train as scum because I always see their reasoning as invalid when I'm town. No one has given off any ulterior or scum-centered motive for their vote, but gut has its ways... |
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Apr 19, 2017 9:10 AM
#656
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Qoco said: Because I fucking hate my life and everything hurts.Oyasumi_Rosie said: i am also here but I should fall asleep soon, good luck my lovelies!~ Why are you lurking? Oh my god can someone please sig this immediately. |
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Apr 19, 2017 9:10 AM
#657
LucianRoy said: aa-dono said: @LucianRoy #323 - :'D I think your posts have a lot of preaching moments too. About what grrr should and should not do. Probably some here or there, but i really tried to focus them on why exactly grr's thought process is illogical and why his bias in information is scummy. #343 - Because of your pushes on each other. Though I would take back me agreeing with logic. Something about Ruu makes me feel like you guys may be aligned after all. Whatcha think about the giant iso analysis they did just to put me back at neutral? #471 - I think Ruu said though initially it was RVS, the vote stayed because she really did scumread you. If you think there are likely scum on your train, who do you think is? Tough to say atm as I always have the tendency to see people on my train as scum because I always see their reasoning as invalid when I'm town. No one has given off any ulterior or scum-centered motive for their vote, but gut has its ways... Lol that logic is pretty flawed espically if more than 3 people vote you at once |
Apr 19, 2017 9:14 AM
#658
Apr 19, 2017 9:15 AM
#659
Is not that I want you to vote. I ask you to questioned people and make reads. I already explained the list. @aa-dono I agreed with Jack's view. I've seen people say they are town to create said image when they are scum. I also found his overreaction to mine and cp's votes weird. And his accusation made no sense. I'm still not a big fan of his "it was a joke, we were in rvs" but that's the only thing I have against him atm. Grrr and I are an easy lynch because we always look scummy no matter our alignment. In fact I'm impress I actually won 2 games as scum xD I already explained why I unvoted. I have read through the game a bit, but will need to reread later but the main thing that has caught my attention is Lucian's first post, normally when people say they are town so early it is to create the image they are town, not only for others but themselves. This is followed by his reaction to his train must be scum it just comes off as a blame game, town should not think they are been voted by scum only, this reaction so early is too strong. This is followed by some fluff posts and a vote o grr a easy lynch who gives little. Followed by a lot more fluff and little actual content, apart froma rant on masons which is unhelpful. i also don't like how much people jumped on Ruu so early, they are a easy lynch target and possible people taking adv of this. i tbh think their first post is bad but so bad they would not do it if scum they are a bit more careful then that. I have to start somewhere with my suspect list. I can't focus on everyone at the same time. So I took that route. Is not that I think all of them must be scum. Everyone has their own method to start pov. I'll work on my list and will vote for the one that I'm pretty certain is scum with a solid case not just because "they are in the list". |
Apr 19, 2017 9:19 AM
#660
Suzune-chan said: aa-dono said: ohases are easy. Vote counts are hard because I do many on the go. Right now the first phase is in page one and he vote counts are within the first five posts on each page except for 9. I will try to post them in a neat order when I get home.@Suzune-chan Is it possible to have the links to all VC and phases? It's easier to just click on them when I want to jump to the last VC or first. Thank you in advance. unless it's not possible. If so, I'll just be extra diligent T_T @SoulEaterQUEEN in case she can do it for me. I can link them in but it may take time during this phase to so expect a delay this phase, and it'll be in order by the next day. |
Apr 19, 2017 9:20 AM
#661
Shinichi-Kun said: Because it took Logic five games before he figured out how to read me. I don't want Lamb to wait as long.Oyasumi_Rosie said: Lam-B said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: Ruu said: Good luck good luck. I have lost every game voting for him first and I plan to keep this streak going@Oyasumi_Rosie is this completely rvs or this time you start with a solid case against grape? xD Yo, I haven't seen a single game in which you came close to being a town-read, though I don't think I've seen you as scum. If you could chose not throwing instead, that'd be cool too. Ur not even the top target so why do u care so much lol |
Apr 19, 2017 9:25 AM
#662
Vote Count 1.12 Ruu: Karote, Jackrito, CorruptedPurity LucianRoy: Aa-dono CorruptedPurity: Coelestin, Grrr:LucianRoy, Grapefruit21, Lam-B, Qoco Pentaflare: Grrr Qoco: PentaFlare Grapefruit21: Oyasumi_Rosie Those not voting Ruu, Shinichi-kun, logic340 When does the phase end? |
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Apr 19, 2017 9:26 AM
#663
Coelestin said: Jackrito said: Coelestin said: Karote said: I have no opinion of grrr, I just ignore him unless it's becoming a problem. Lucian talks a lot, that's nice, has a train but doesn't seem very concerned, also nice. ^ this. Always nice to have you here Carrot. I would agree on the grr point, on Lucian point I feel he is a bit concerned since mentioned it a couple of times It didn't feel too scummy for me yet, he has his moments but nothing outrageous. But to be fair, I've never played with town Luce, so maybe our perceptions differ based on that. Wait, you're jokin me right? You've had to have played in a towngame with me. |
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Apr 19, 2017 9:33 AM
#664
Coelestin said: Not sure. Since you didn't actually do it, there's no way to know :Paa-dono said: Jackrito said: Based off Ruu's last post moving my vote there. Still not sure on Lucian but I feel like I can work them out later and they did something which I was not expecting which has gave me doubt. Still not a fan of this Grr train since I feel Grr is less troll as scum and more serious all this role stuff I can't see him doing when scum because it brings too much attention with little info. Vote Ruu Would it have sit well with you if I had done it? Cause I would've if Jack wouldn't have done it. Then again, why wouldn't you vote her now that Jack has? |
Apr 19, 2017 9:44 AM
#665
LucianRoy said: I'm pretty sure my first game here, Chione was... someone and Lucian was town :'DCoelestin said: Jackrito said: Coelestin said: Karote said: I have no opinion of grrr, I just ignore him unless it's becoming a problem. Lucian talks a lot, that's nice, has a train but doesn't seem very concerned, also nice. ^ this. Always nice to have you here Carrot. I would agree on the grr point, on Lucian point I feel he is a bit concerned since mentioned it a couple of times It didn't feel too scummy for me yet, he has his moments but nothing outrageous. But to be fair, I've never played with town Luce, so maybe our perceptions differ based on that. Wait, you're jokin me right? You've had to have played in a towngame with me. |
Apr 19, 2017 9:49 AM
#666
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: Because it took Logic five games before he figured out how to read me. I don't want Lamb to wait as long.Oyasumi_Rosie said: Lam-B said: More proof, More proof! Lamb reads me like a blind man reads a normal book. If he think I am scum, then I must be town! :3cOyasumi_Rosie said: Ruu said: Good luck good luck. I have lost every game voting for him first and I plan to keep this streak going@Oyasumi_Rosie is this completely rvs or this time you start with a solid case against grape? xD Yo, I haven't seen a single game in which you came close to being a town-read, though I don't think I've seen you as scum. If you could chose not throwing instead, that'd be cool too. Ur not even the top target so why do u care so much lol but knowing ur meta has nothing to do with in this specific game because most if not everyone is gonna read u based on the behavior of this game. |
Apr 19, 2017 9:51 AM
#667
Grapefruit21 said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? What makes the grrr train bad? Is your town read of grrr so strong that you think he should be obv town to me? I'm willing to vote elsewhere to ensure a lynch (I would vote for Ruu, Shinichi, and could maybe be talked into Karote and a few others), but I see a strong train on grrr and would rather see where some of the nowhereland voters go before abandoning it. And to your earlier point that we shouldn't exclusively focus on people not really playing but I needed to get that off my chest. It just annoys me. As for Jack and CPurity's takes I think CPurity's is actively wrong and I can't figure out if it's just RVS not being CPurity's favorite part of the game or if it's scum trying to push. So much of it claims to be from the POV of Lucian being super serious about his push on Ruu to start the game, and I don't know what to make of that given he hopped off of it early. As for Jack I can't actually find the post where he discussed Lucian's entry to see what his exact thoughts were, but I still have town feelings towards him. They have definitely sagged a bit with aa-dono's previous post that pointed out how much of Lucian's post isn't content but I can't shake my town read. I'm trying to sort through my bias and see how much of it is based on him voting grrr with me. Anyway long story short before I go to bed willing to lynch: grrr, ruu, Shini, >>>>, Karote, CPurity, and >>> Rosie and Qoco (for lurking/lack of content). Never lynching: logic, Penta, or Coelestin based on behavior today. I don't have much against it, it's just the general picture and that annoys me. I don't care much about who changes it, I just would appreciate it if it's changed. Tho it would be fruitless now anyways I suppose. CorruptedPurity said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? Ya bruh, straight on, I'm also onto CP. Real talk though, my "OK-to-lynch" list for today only consist of Ruu and logic. While I am wary of Lucy, I would prefer to keep him alive first as he could be town and he's good at scumhunting if he's truly town. I once again repeat that an investigative role should check him out. Logic is based off my apparently wrong meta read, but I do think I can sense frustrated town logic, and it didn't show this game when he had a train lead. Ruu is ok up there because the posts she made seemed off and scummish, that ISO on Lucy derailed alot, it went from scumreading him to almost townreading him and then it included 5 ppl who are not Lucy, like ISO is meant to be an isolation, why are others involved? And the nature of which she presented them: "<- One of this must be scum" just seemed off and more like scum than town to me. I don't like a grrr lynch, grrr is ya know, grrr, so let the grrr be a grrr until the point where it he starts causing trouble then maybe I'll look more into him, because doing so now is a waste of my time That said... Vote: Ruu ...huh. ok. Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: [quote=Jackrito lol. Penta knows how to identify good Chichi but he has no clue how to find bad Chichi cause both Chichi's are crude perfectionists :P I know how to identify bad Chi! You do that thing with your shoulders when someone is falsely accusing you but you are rigid if they are right! lol Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? is it even wise to try pressuring new people 7 hours before phase change? I ust dont wanna come back to a messy phase change since i will be missing it. Well, I'm just asking around. It's not like much has happened anyways. |
Apr 19, 2017 9:55 AM
#668
LucianRoy said: Coelestin said: Jackrito said: Coelestin said: Karote said: I have no opinion of grrr, I just ignore him unless it's becoming a problem. Lucian talks a lot, that's nice, has a train but doesn't seem very concerned, also nice. ^ this. Always nice to have you here Carrot. I would agree on the grr point, on Lucian point I feel he is a bit concerned since mentioned it a couple of times It didn't feel too scummy for me yet, he has his moments but nothing outrageous. But to be fair, I've never played with town Luce, so maybe our perceptions differ based on that. Wait, you're jokin me right? You've had to have played in a towngame with me. Nope, I don't think so. You only replaced me Day 2 in Ultimate Anime Showdown 2 because I got tagged in the scum club. aa-dono said: LucianRoy said: I'm pretty sure my first game here, Chione was... someone and Lucian was town :'DCoelestin said: Jackrito said: Coelestin said: Karote said: I have no opinion of grrr, I just ignore him unless it's becoming a problem. Lucian talks a lot, that's nice, has a train but doesn't seem very concerned, also nice. ^ this. Always nice to have you here Carrot. I would agree on the grr point, on Lucian point I feel he is a bit concerned since mentioned it a couple of times It didn't feel too scummy for me yet, he has his moments but nothing outrageous. But to be fair, I've never played with town Luce, so maybe our perceptions differ based on that. Wait, you're jokin me right? You've had to have played in a towngame with me. Yep, you were in that game too. |
Apr 19, 2017 10:00 AM
#669
Coelestin said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: [quote=Jackrito lol. Penta knows how to identify good Chichi but he has no clue how to find bad Chichi cause both Chichi's are crude perfectionists :P I know how to identify bad Chi! You do that thing with your shoulders when someone is falsely accusing you but you are rigid if they are right! lol Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? is it even wise to try pressuring new people 7 hours before phase change? I ust dont wanna come back to a messy phase change since i will be missing it. Well, I'm just asking around. It's not like much has happened anyways. Fair enough and grabbing this quote was so ahrd lol |
Apr 19, 2017 10:03 AM
#670
Ruu said: This is why I shouldn't make reads at 2 am... By unvoting I wanted to show that I'm leaning town with Roy. My analysis was to show how my vision of him progressed - Their first posts looked scummy but their latter ones where neutral/townish and made me see his first contribution in another light. I hope this clear things up. Before going to bed I wanted to post a list of the people that I'll focusing on. You don't have to pay attention to it. It was mostly for me since today I'll be rereading their posts to find clues, connections that will give me a better read on them. I'll respond to all the mentions now and then I'll focus on cases. Vote: Ruu Alright, this is scummy. When you make an ISO post which labels someone as scum a whole bunch and then do a 180 with townie stuff to end up as a neutral read, it is scummy. There's a bunch of scum motivation for doing this. First, it allows you to appear productive and analytical without committing to any reads, making them easy to change later. Second, it allows you to highlight a whole bunch of things as scummy, which could make others see them as scum, without being held responsible if they aren't scum. Third, it doesn't require you to place a vote, which means your case is less likely to be looked back on. People naturally look back at reasons people voted, but rarely reasons people didn't vote. The only time a read should be neutral is if everything a player has ever said is neutral. Obviously Lucian has said alignment related things in your opinion. You should have read. Not everything is equally important. Is the scum stuff or town stuff more telling? In Haruhi mafia, Lucian called me out for doing exactly this on day 1. I wrote a ridiculous slingshotty read. This allowed me to get away without having my day 1 vote reasoning checked for the rest of the game. If Lucian has only pushed on me more, I would have been caught. Nobody else but him noticed. Instead of letting that happen and having your neutral read drift into the back of everyone's mind, I'm calling you out for this now. This is a scum motivated read. If you want to avoid a lynch, give me some reads I can hold you accountable for. |
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Apr 19, 2017 10:06 AM
#671
| Awww shoot, has Ruu already gone to sleep? |
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Apr 19, 2017 10:08 AM
#672
Jackrito said: Karote said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? I'm all ears, ask me what you want .. Ok I will bite who are your top 3 town and top 3 scums reads and why. Also why is your vote on Ruu you may of said before but just humor me here. Also what are your thoughts on grr train I know you said you normally ignore him but I want a bit more here. There wasn't any real reason behind me joining the train on Ruu, I find the RVS part pointless if plenty of others before me did it anyway but now I'm keeping because I slightly suspect her. Now I want to question that suspicion because many others suspect her as well, don't feel good about it. She ignored my question, lol. Uhm, grr, willing to lynch him, ignored my question and stopped posting for some reason. Feels like he's trying to act like usual so everyone leaves him alone for last but I don't want crack my head over whether genuinely trolling or not. I don't have any townreads or scumreads, everyone for me can easily fall into the other. I suck at reading people early so I prefer to wait until Day 1 is over but I'll be here at the last 30 minutes of the phase to decide whom to vote for. But I do have slight town-read for grape, maybe Shinichi too for the lack of joking around like he usually does. |
Apr 19, 2017 10:11 AM
#674
| Unvote Not lynching Ruu until I get an answer to that. |
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Apr 19, 2017 10:13 AM
#675
PentaFlare said: Alright, this is scummy. When you make an ISO post which labels someone as scum a whole bunch and then do a 180 with townie stuff to end up as a neutral read, it is scummy. There's a bunch of scum motivation for doing this. First, it allows you to appear productive and analytical without committing to any reads, making them easy to change later. Second, it allows you to highlight a whole bunch of things as scummy, which could make others see them as scum, without being held responsible if they aren't scum. Third, it doesn't require you to place a vote, which means your case is less likely to be looked back on. People naturally look back at reasons people voted, but rarely reasons people didn't vote. The only time a read should be neutral is if everything a player has ever said is neutral. Obviously Lucian has said alignment related things in your opinion. You should have read. Not everything is equally important. Is the scum stuff or town stuff more telling? Never really thought of it that way, but you do bring a huge point to the table. I also noticed with ruus other post where see picked 5 people she was willing to lynch without voting one of them or building any big case on them. Pretty much the moral of the story here is her ISO of lucian is faked? Which would def make her scum. I mean for me when i normally iso someone its to prove they are scum while highlight stuff that could also show said person could be town but never neutral u dont iso someone who is neutral or get led to think someone is neutral through an iso. Vote:Ruu |
Apr 19, 2017 10:13 AM
#676
Im pretty sure she said she be back before phase change so i dont think there is any reason to unvote. |
Apr 19, 2017 10:15 AM
#677
Karote said: Jackrito said: Karote said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? I'm all ears, ask me what you want .. Ok I will bite who are your top 3 town and top 3 scums reads and why. Also why is your vote on Ruu you may of said before but just humor me here. Also what are your thoughts on grr train I know you said you normally ignore him but I want a bit more here. There wasn't any real reason behind me joining the train on Ruu, I find the RVS part pointless if plenty of others before me did it anyway but now I'm keeping because I slightly suspect her. Now I want to question that suspicion because many others suspect her as well, don't feel good about it. She ignored my question, lol. Uhm, grr, willing to lynch him, ignored my question and stopped posting for some reason. Feels like he's trying to act like usual so everyone leaves him alone for last but I don't want crack my head over whether genuinely trolling or not. I don't have any townreads or scumreads, everyone for me can easily fall into the other. I suck at reading people early so I prefer to wait until Day 1 is over but I'll be here at the last 30 minutes of the phase to decide whom to vote for. But I do have slight town-read for grape, maybe Shinichi too for the lack of joking around like he usually does. The problem with grrr is hes also easy bait for mafia to ride on if he flips town. Only thing ive noticed is his posting about claims has seemed so forced. When do i normally joke around >3> |
Apr 19, 2017 10:17 AM
#678
Ruu said: Why did you bring up grrr? Do you think he's scum here?Is not that I want you to vote. I ask you to questioned people and make reads. I already explained the list. @aa-dono I agreed with Jack's view. I've seen people say they are town to create said image when they are scum. I also found his overreaction to mine and cp's votes weird. And his accusation made no sense. I'm still not a big fan of his "it was a joke, we were in rvs" but that's the only thing I have against him atm. Grrr and I are an easy lynch because we always look scummy no matter our alignment. In fact I'm impress I actually won 2 games as scum xD I already explained why I unvoted. I have read through the game a bit, but will need to reread later but the main thing that has caught my attention is Lucian's first post, normally when people say they are town so early it is to create the image they are town, not only for others but themselves. This is followed by his reaction to his train must be scum it just comes off as a blame game, town should not think they are been voted by scum only, this reaction so early is too strong. This is followed by some fluff posts and a vote o grr a easy lynch who gives little. Followed by a lot more fluff and little actual content, apart froma rant on masons which is unhelpful. i also don't like how much people jumped on Ruu so early, they are a easy lynch target and possible people taking adv of this. i tbh think their first post is bad but so bad they would not do it if scum they are a bit more careful then that. I have to start somewhere with my suspect list. I can't focus on everyone at the same time. So I took that route. Is not that I think all of them must be scum. Everyone has their own method to start pov. I'll work on my list and will vote for the one that I'm pretty certain is scum with a solid case not just because "they are in the list". So you pretty much agree with the whole post. Hmm What do you think of his reasons for voting you? This was your post when you unvoted. - You explained why you kept your vote. Then new line. You asked him a question: Why he change his mind about you. Then new paragraph. Boom! Lucian is now a neutral read. No you did not explain this. What happened in between? I still don't get the whole Lucian leans town thing, but I don't like your replies more than his. I think this is starting to become a loop. :( |
Apr 19, 2017 10:18 AM
#679
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Thank you :)Suzune-chan said: aa-dono said: @Suzune-chan Is it possible to have the links to all VC and phases? It's easier to just click on them when I want to jump to the last VC or first. Thank you in advance. unless it's not possible. If so, I'll just be extra diligent T_T @SoulEaterQUEEN in case she can do it for me. I can link them in but it may take time during this phase to so expect a delay this phase, and it'll be in order by the next day. Sorry for the trouble. |
Apr 19, 2017 10:22 AM
#680
| My only concern is that Ruu's just being a distracted town. I don't trust myself catching scum ha..ha..ha.. T____________T See you guys when I wake up o/ |
Apr 19, 2017 10:24 AM
#681
Shinichi-Kun said: Karote said: Jackrito said: Karote said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? I'm all ears, ask me what you want .. Ok I will bite who are your top 3 town and top 3 scums reads and why. Also why is your vote on Ruu you may of said before but just humor me here. Also what are your thoughts on grr train I know you said you normally ignore him but I want a bit more here. There wasn't any real reason behind me joining the train on Ruu, I find the RVS part pointless if plenty of others before me did it anyway but now I'm keeping because I slightly suspect her. Now I want to question that suspicion because many others suspect her as well, don't feel good about it. She ignored my question, lol. Uhm, grr, willing to lynch him, ignored my question and stopped posting for some reason. Feels like he's trying to act like usual so everyone leaves him alone for last but I don't want crack my head over whether genuinely trolling or not. I don't have any townreads or scumreads, everyone for me can easily fall into the other. I suck at reading people early so I prefer to wait until Day 1 is over but I'll be here at the last 30 minutes of the phase to decide whom to vote for. But I do have slight town-read for grape, maybe Shinichi too for the lack of joking around like he usually does. The problem with grrr is hes also easy bait for mafia to ride on if he flips town. Only thing ive noticed is his posting about claims has seemed so forced. When do i normally joke around >3> Then I think mafia would be more careful lynching him but even if flips town, automatically those who wished to lynch him would be suspects and mafia doesn't want attention, right. Altough I have played as scum while having lots of attention focused on me and I used the same excuse, lol. When you're scum, I think. |
Apr 19, 2017 10:26 AM
#682
Shinichi-Kun said: Im pretty sure she said she be back before phase change so i dont think there is any reason to unvote. I don't know. They said they were going to sleep soon. I'm thinking of other options if they don't come back before the phase change. I don't want to lynch someone off a slingshotty read of they can't try and justify it with more clarity and aren't given a chance to present non-neutral reads. |
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Apr 19, 2017 10:28 AM
#683
LucianRoy said: Whatcha think about the giant iso analysis they did just to put me back at neutral? aa-dono said: I don't understand this post. 1st part was about Lucian being scummy in her POV. 2nd part jumps to Lucian being neutral but leaning to town. @Ruu what causes that change of opinion? Also, didn't you say you dislike unvotes? Since you don't have a new scumread, why unvote? It was bad that I have to think whether scum would make such post or not. |
Apr 19, 2017 10:30 AM
#684
Karote said: Shinichi-Kun said: Karote said: Jackrito said: Karote said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? I'm all ears, ask me what you want .. Ok I will bite who are your top 3 town and top 3 scums reads and why. Also why is your vote on Ruu you may of said before but just humor me here. Also what are your thoughts on grr train I know you said you normally ignore him but I want a bit more here. There wasn't any real reason behind me joining the train on Ruu, I find the RVS part pointless if plenty of others before me did it anyway but now I'm keeping because I slightly suspect her. Now I want to question that suspicion because many others suspect her as well, don't feel good about it. She ignored my question, lol. Uhm, grr, willing to lynch him, ignored my question and stopped posting for some reason. Feels like he's trying to act like usual so everyone leaves him alone for last but I don't want crack my head over whether genuinely trolling or not. I don't have any townreads or scumreads, everyone for me can easily fall into the other. I suck at reading people early so I prefer to wait until Day 1 is over but I'll be here at the last 30 minutes of the phase to decide whom to vote for. But I do have slight town-read for grape, maybe Shinichi too for the lack of joking around like he usually does. The problem with grrr is hes also easy bait for mafia to ride on if he flips town. Only thing ive noticed is his posting about claims has seemed so forced. When do i normally joke around >3> Then I think mafia would be more careful lynching him but even if flips town, automatically those who wished to lynch him would be suspects and mafia doesn't want attention, right. Altough I have played as scum while having lots of attention focused on me and I used the same excuse, lol. When you're scum, I think. U do have a point here then it seems like its a win win to vote grrr at this point because it would open new paths and close any unwanted holes. I would prob play the same way lol pressure doesnt really change my reaction. Good thing im not scum then :D |
Apr 19, 2017 10:31 AM
#685
PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: Im pretty sure she said she be back before phase change so i dont think there is any reason to unvote. I don't know. They said they were going to sleep soon. I'm thinking of other options if they don't come back before the phase change. I don't want to lynch someone off a slingshotty read of they can't try and justify it with more clarity and aren't given a chance to present non-neutral reads. Where does ruu live that she has to sleep unless shes in the same timezone as lamby or awa. Problem i have is this may only be day 1 but we cant avoid her everytime she wont make it till phase change. |
Apr 19, 2017 10:32 AM
#686
PentaFlare said: This is a question to me, right?Is there anything you have found that I missed? Dear Penta, you explained my thoughts better than I would :O Answer is nope. I didn't notice he dismiss Jack's vote on him. I'll check that one when I wake up though. Other than that, all his replies to me feels neutral. |
Apr 19, 2017 10:37 AM
#687
Shinichi-Kun said: Karote said: Shinichi-Kun said: Karote said: Jackrito said: Karote said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? I'm all ears, ask me what you want .. Ok I will bite who are your top 3 town and top 3 scums reads and why. Also why is your vote on Ruu you may of said before but just humor me here. Also what are your thoughts on grr train I know you said you normally ignore him but I want a bit more here. There wasn't any real reason behind me joining the train on Ruu, I find the RVS part pointless if plenty of others before me did it anyway but now I'm keeping because I slightly suspect her. Now I want to question that suspicion because many others suspect her as well, don't feel good about it. She ignored my question, lol. Uhm, grr, willing to lynch him, ignored my question and stopped posting for some reason. Feels like he's trying to act like usual so everyone leaves him alone for last but I don't want crack my head over whether genuinely trolling or not. I don't have any townreads or scumreads, everyone for me can easily fall into the other. I suck at reading people early so I prefer to wait until Day 1 is over but I'll be here at the last 30 minutes of the phase to decide whom to vote for. But I do have slight town-read for grape, maybe Shinichi too for the lack of joking around like he usually does. The problem with grrr is hes also easy bait for mafia to ride on if he flips town. Only thing ive noticed is his posting about claims has seemed so forced. When do i normally joke around >3> Then I think mafia would be more careful lynching him but even if flips town, automatically those who wished to lynch him would be suspects and mafia doesn't want attention, right. Altough I have played as scum while having lots of attention focused on me and I used the same excuse, lol. When you're scum, I think. U do have a point here then it seems like its a win win to vote grrr at this point because it would open new paths and close any unwanted holes. I would prob play the same way lol pressure doesnt really change my reaction. Good thing im not scum then :D Well, his death won't bring much information. Can't pinpoint him to any of the people, only saw Jack was kind of suspecting grr. Most people seem to suspect Ruu, I want to see more of her opinions before deciding myself whether I'll read her as scum or town, that ISO thingy does seem fishy but I can see just careless townie doing that. Also, don't be so sure of that. |
Apr 19, 2017 10:38 AM
#688
Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: Im pretty sure she said she be back before phase change so i dont think there is any reason to unvote. I don't know. They said they were going to sleep soon. I'm thinking of other options if they don't come back before the phase change. I don't want to lynch someone off a slingshotty read of they can't try and justify it with more clarity and aren't given a chance to present non-neutral reads. Where does ruu live that she has to sleep unless shes in the same timezone as lamby or awa. Problem i have is this may only be day 1 but we cant avoid her everytime she wont make it till phase change. I don't know. They might take naps at 10 in the morning for all I know too. I'm not giving Ruu a free pass, but I want to give Ruu a chance to defend themself. I'm most confident in my scumreads if the defense is scummy. In the past, I have been best at catching scum off VCA or analyzing their defenses. I want to see a defense to my push, even if it means waiting until N1 to see it. I want to be as confident as possible. |
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Apr 19, 2017 10:44 AM
#689
| Damn, grrr has been ignoring me. I'll just play some games .. I want to give Penta that slight town read but I'm cynical, ohh boy. Just talking to myself. |
Apr 19, 2017 10:47 AM
#690
Karote said: +1I want to give Penta that slight town read but I'm cynical, ohh boy. Just talking to myself. Oh wait cynical? I don't think that's the word I'm looking. Oh well. I really should stop checking MAL if I want to wake up for phase change... |
Apr 19, 2017 10:50 AM
#691
SoulEaterQUEEN said: If you can you are an angel otherwise we will be better about it next phase.Suzune-chan said: aa-dono said: @Suzune-chan Is it possible to have the links to all VC and phases? It's easier to just click on them when I want to jump to the last VC or first. Thank you in advance. unless it's not possible. If so, I'll just be extra diligent T_T @SoulEaterQUEEN in case she can do it for me. I can link them in but it may take time during this phase to so expect a delay this phase, and it'll be in order by the next day. I can do it quickly from my own computer when I get home. Will be done before phase. |
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Apr 19, 2017 10:55 AM
#692
PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: Im pretty sure she said she be back before phase change so i dont think there is any reason to unvote. I don't know. They said they were going to sleep soon. I'm thinking of other options if they don't come back before the phase change. I don't want to lynch someone off a slingshotty read of they can't try and justify it with more clarity and aren't given a chance to present non-neutral reads. Where does ruu live that she has to sleep unless shes in the same timezone as lamby or awa. Problem i have is this may only be day 1 but we cant avoid her everytime she wont make it till phase change. I don't know. They might take naps at 10 in the morning for all I know too. I'm not giving Ruu a free pass, but I want to give Ruu a chance to defend themself. I'm most confident in my scumreads if the defense is scummy. In the past, I have been best at catching scum off VCA or analyzing their defenses. I want to see a defense to my push, even if it means waiting until N1 to see it. I want to be as confident as possible. Ok then ill give her the benefit of the doubt seeing as how i wont be here for phase change anyways Unvote, it be cowardly for me to leave my vote on her in taht sort of situation. |
Apr 19, 2017 10:56 AM
#693
Karote said: Shinichi-Kun said: Karote said: Shinichi-Kun said: Karote said: Jackrito said: Karote said: Coelestin said: PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: @PentaFlare I need your stance on Carrot right now. Needs pressure, yes/no? If you could change anything about the current vote count, what would it be? Definitely needs pressure, I don't know how to do it though. I've tried unsuccessfully in past games. Do you know? We need to start condensing into less trains. All the 1 vote trains are useless. I'm guilty of this, but class is starting so I'll change later. Yeah, I think so too. But I'm pretty sure he gets more talkative if we put votes on him. But I'm onto CP right now... and I feel comfortable there :/ My current problem is that grrr train. We need the votes from it to pressure other people more than with 1-vote trains, but the people on the train itself won't budge. And those unused votes from the people who aren't voting aren't helping either. @LucianRoy @Ruu @CorruptedPurity What do you think about this? I'm all ears, ask me what you want .. Ok I will bite who are your top 3 town and top 3 scums reads and why. Also why is your vote on Ruu you may of said before but just humor me here. Also what are your thoughts on grr train I know you said you normally ignore him but I want a bit more here. There wasn't any real reason behind me joining the train on Ruu, I find the RVS part pointless if plenty of others before me did it anyway but now I'm keeping because I slightly suspect her. Now I want to question that suspicion because many others suspect her as well, don't feel good about it. She ignored my question, lol. Uhm, grr, willing to lynch him, ignored my question and stopped posting for some reason. Feels like he's trying to act like usual so everyone leaves him alone for last but I don't want crack my head over whether genuinely trolling or not. I don't have any townreads or scumreads, everyone for me can easily fall into the other. I suck at reading people early so I prefer to wait until Day 1 is over but I'll be here at the last 30 minutes of the phase to decide whom to vote for. But I do have slight town-read for grape, maybe Shinichi too for the lack of joking around like he usually does. The problem with grrr is hes also easy bait for mafia to ride on if he flips town. Only thing ive noticed is his posting about claims has seemed so forced. When do i normally joke around >3> Then I think mafia would be more careful lynching him but even if flips town, automatically those who wished to lynch him would be suspects and mafia doesn't want attention, right. Altough I have played as scum while having lots of attention focused on me and I used the same excuse, lol. When you're scum, I think. U do have a point here then it seems like its a win win to vote grrr at this point because it would open new paths and close any unwanted holes. I would prob play the same way lol pressure doesnt really change my reaction. Good thing im not scum then :D Well, his death won't bring much information. Can't pinpoint him to any of the people, only saw Jack was kind of suspecting grr. Most people seem to suspect Ruu, I want to see more of her opinions before deciding myself whether I'll read her as scum or town, that ISO thingy does seem fishy but I can see just careless townie doing that. Also, don't be so sure of that. You and awa both mentioned the careless townie approach of that iso hmm guess its possible. Pretty sure grape fruit wants grrr dead too which is another reason i be ok lynching grrr since it might lead to a better read on grape >:D |
Apr 19, 2017 10:57 AM
#694
Karote said: Damn, grrr has been ignoring me. I'll just play some games .. I want to give Penta that slight town read but I'm cynical, ohh boy. Just talking to myself. grrr is gonna pop in 1 hour before phase change i am calling it. |
Apr 19, 2017 10:57 AM
#695
Apr 19, 2017 10:57 AM
#696
Apr 19, 2017 11:05 AM
#697
Apr 19, 2017 11:11 AM
#698
logic340 said: Qoco said: Was he town or scum that that game though. If you aren't going to give us that then why is this information relevant to this game?Grapefruit21 said: Qoco said: Grapefruit21 said: CorruptedPurity said: Grapefruit21 said: CorruptedPurity said: Ruu said: I'm starting to have second thoughts about logic, his way of defending people reminds me of scum!logic, but he was angrier when town so Idk. Meta confuses me. You have a point, logic usually is more emotional as town, and more collected as scum. Just something to note off Logic was super emotional as scum in alcatraz? I pretty strongly disagree with that meta read. LucianRoy said: wondering who Cp is going to vote atm. @grapefruit21, whatcha thoughts on jack's alignment? good vibes bad vibes? @qoco, who do you want to see tied up and lynched? Good vibes, but I know Jack is fully capable of fooling me. If you were a day cop who would you check right now? Was he? I know you were emotional but he was pretty collected and pretended to not tunnel, to be objective etc... Hmmm, I haven't reread it but I seem to recall him going fully emotional when we locked into the death spiral. Could be bias, but I am fairly confident other people pointed to his emotion in that time frame. I remember the last game I played with him. I thought he was about to cry. Wut? Are you saying this to confirm he's emotional as town? Like what the actual hell is the point of that? Bagging someone like that isn't exactly relevant to the game. I don't know if he's emotional as town. I've only played one game with him. I just felt that he was going to cry. The game hasn't ended so I'm not sure. It's relevant to this game, because just like everyone else, he's pulling reasons to suspect people out his ass. This includes using previous games as a base to scum read people in this one. Information between games shouldn't be backwards compatible. |
Apr 19, 2017 11:13 AM
#699
I accept your vote. I feel in danger. |
Apr 19, 2017 11:14 AM
#700
Ruu said: Is not that I want you to vote. I ask you to questioned people and make reads. I already explained the list. Turning the topic back on me doesn't answer questions. You're sure that one person in there is scum, but you refused to vote and create pressure. Your actions don't match with your words. |
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