PentaFlare said: Coelestin said: @PentaFlare What do you think about Shinichi trying to defend Ruu a little bit so early on? I don't really see what he's doing as defending Ruu. It has that effect, but I think he is mostly thinking about it as being wary towards an early train. There is no need to defend someone from an RVS train because it isn't going to stick without reason. It is just caution. Kaito wants to see actions that people can be held accountable for later in the game and the vote I added onto that train could come from town or scum. It says nothing about me whereas picking a target of my own and backing it up with my own reasoning would. If anything, I would say his caution is town-like, but it's more neutral. that is a lie, RVS trains tend to stick and end up being a great place for the scum roles to hide on during the end of the phase. Also penta does know me very very well, cause too me an action or post you make will help me define said persons alignment later in the game. |
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Vote Count 1.4 Grapefruit21: Coelestin Coelestin: Logic340, Grrr Ruu: Pentaflare, Karote LucianRoy: Ruu, CorruptedPurity Qouo: Grapefruit21 PentaFlare: Shinichi-Kun Grrr:LucianRoy Those not voting Aa-dono, Lam-B, Jackrito, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco |
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Ruu said: LucianRoy said: But don't bandwagon ruu. I'm srs. Their vote has bad vibes. is this fluff or do you really believe that? And what looks more scummy to you my vote or CP's ? I'm not liking Karote's vote on me tbh... I get Penta's vote thou - I mean making a countertrain is always a good idea, specially to get out of rvs and get people talking.... but I don't get why Karote had to put me in the lead... it looks like scummy sheeping. Your omgus vote was despicable. Gave me the heebie jeebies. Cp's vote is janky too, but not as much as yours. If karote sheeped mine and penta's vote, I'm doing something damn convincing lol. Where did penta talk about setting up a counter train? I thought he just liked me. I read karote's sheep as nai more than anything, maybe even a slight town tell since he normally screws around in rvs as town. Why's ya vote still on me is the real question? |
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| To clarify, my vote on Ruu had a surprising number of reasons for an early vote. The main one was to start building a train so we could begin moving out of RVS. The second was because Lucian was presenting an actual reason to vote and although it was weak, it was more than nothing so I wanted to support the only actual vote with reason with some extra pressure. And finally, I just thought it would be fun to join in with whatever Lucian was going for because I usually like his day 1 play. Hope that clears it up since everyone seems to have a different idea about my vote. |
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| HOLY SHIT QOCO IS PANDA |
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| This changes everything |
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PentaFlare said: To clarify, my vote on Ruu had a surprising number of reasons for an early vote. The main one was to start building a train so we could begin moving out of RVS. The second was because Lucian was presenting an actual reason to vote and although it was weak, it was more than nothing so I wanted to support the only actual vote with reason with some extra pressure. And finally, I just thought it would be fun to join in with whatever Lucian was going for because I usually like his day 1 play. Hope that clears it up since everyone seems to have a different idea about my vote. Aww shucks, you flatter me. |
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LucianRoy said: HOLY SHIT QOCO IS PANDA oh ya i forgot to tell u that lol |
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| I wish more people would reply to my claim request. Even if all i get are weird roles (though I doubt that will be the case). |
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LucianRoy said: Hopefully you're town so you can continue doing things deserving of mention. It's too bad your scum game isn't quite at the same level. :PAww shucks, you flatter me. grrr said: I would prefer if we didn't force everyone to hint about their roles. If the claim won't help catch scum, don't claim anything.I wish more people would reply to my claim request. Even if all i get are weird roles (though I doubt that will be the case). |
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| @Ruu My vote is still on your for a reason. If you don't like Karote's vote on you and think it is scummy, why are you just sitting around with a vote on Lucian? You should be pressuring and voting for your scumreads. You should take initiative and hunt for scum, but I'm not seeing you do that. |
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LucianRoy said: Ruu said: is this fluff or do you really believe that? And what looks more scummy to you my vote or CP's ? I'm not liking Karote's vote on me tbh... I get Penta's vote thou - I mean making a countertrain is always a good idea, specially to get out of rvs and get people talking.... but I don't get why Karote had to put me in the lead... it looks like scummy sheeping. Your omgus vote was despicable. Gave me the heebie jeebies. Cp's vote is janky too, but not as much as yours. If karote sheeped mine and penta's vote, I'm doing something damn convincing lol. Where did penta talk about setting up a counter train? I thought he just liked me. I read karote's sheep as nai more than anything, maybe even a slight town tell since he normally screws around in rvs as town. Why's ya vote still on me is the real question? I still don't see why is my vote on you so scummy... My vote on you is not doing any harm so I don't see why I should change it. I'm not a big fan of vote/unvote/vote again.... Penta didn't say that, but that's what I think was his intention. And now he said it was... So you don't find Karote's vote weird even thou he break the tie? :/ Well I just have a bad feeling but I can't use that as hard evidence against him for now. Too many neutral reads -_- |
PentaFlare said: @Ruu My vote is still on your for a reason. If you don't like Karote's vote on you and think it is scummy, why are you just sitting around with a vote on Lucian? You should be pressuring and voting for your scumreads. You should take initiative and hunt for scum, but I'm not seeing you do that. I'm still deciding... jeez people calm down! Is not like I won't change my vote later on... I want to hear more from other players. @grrr why are you role fishing so early? |
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| @Ruu Sure. You are welcome to work at your own pace, but I want to see you working to achieve a town win condition. What I was seeing was a different mentality. You said "my vote on Lucian is doing no harm". That is kind of a carefree attitude that focuses on not hurting town instead of focusing on helping it. That's what I was seeing from you by just leaving your vote on Lucian and it was reinforced by that quoted comment. Don't simply try not to hurt town, try to do good. That said, you seem to be moving in the right direction with your question to grrr, so I'll back off for now and give you some space to work but the vote will stay until I have a better target. |
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| @Coelestin I don't care about reasonings for not dropping an RVS, it's never helpful and prevents information from flowing. It's a way to make an impression without being tied to anything later. More often comes from scum than town in my experience. As for the CPurity read it's mostly gut but I liked the tone and style of the interaction with Lucian on the bottom of page one. @grrr You and I have very different definitions of weird roles if you're including lovers as a normal role. It's role madness so it's not as impactful, but why the PR hunting? I don't see how it benefits town. Also general aside I don't expect many of the standard roles to be here given that it's role madness. Vote: grrr |
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Ruu said: These are the post that stick out to me when trying to evaluate you as scum or town. I have generally have been able to figure you out due to your stance on RVS trains and here we go again. So what does it mean? Why is breaking a RVS tie bad? Why is a third vote on an RVS train bad? I know that it's you which makes you bias but pretend it was someone else would you feel the same way you do right now?LucianRoy said: Your omgus vote was despicable. Gave me the heebie jeebies. Cp's vote is janky too, but not as much as yours. If karote sheeped mine and penta's vote, I'm doing something damn convincing lol. Where did penta talk about setting up a counter train? I thought he just liked me. I read karote's sheep as nai more than anything, maybe even a slight town tell since he normally screws around in rvs as town. Why's ya vote still on me is the real question? I still don't see why is my vote on you so scummy... My vote on you is not doing any harm so I don't see why I should change it. I'm not a big fan of vote/unvote/vote again.... Penta didn't say that, but that's what I think was his intention. And now he said it was... So you don't find Karote's vote weird even thou he break the tie? :/ Well I just have a bad feeling but I can't use that as hard evidence against him for now. Too many neutral reads -_- BTW this is standard Karote behavior vote and disappear. |
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| More votes for grr pls. Also, grapefruit, have we played together before? |
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| @grapefruit21 Qoco has town meta of not placing an RVS vote right away. I agree with you that it doesn't help town, but it is probably still NAI. |
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grrr said: I wish more people would reply to my claim request. Even if all i get are weird roles (though I doubt that will be the case). no reason to reply, its role madness speculating this early in the game does nothing. |
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| @Suzune-chan Based on the win conditions you have posted, am I save to assume Town and Third Party can both win, or does a Third Party victory overrule a Town victory? |
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| I think I like grapefruit's vote better than mine. His has no bias in it. All the more reason to vote grr. |
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PentaFlare said: It is impossible for town to win with third party. The act of defeating the mafia but not taking out the third party, gives the third the victory. @Suzune-chan Based on the win conditions you have posted, am I save to assume Town and Third Party can both win, or does a Third Party victory overrule a Town victory? |
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LucianRoy said: Waaaiittt a minute, grapefruit was the guy who said he was a new player but sounded really good so no one believed him in that one game with soren. Nowww I remember. Yup that was me. In the end it turned out I wasn't good, but knew all the lingo to fake like I was. @PentaFlare Fair enough, it's playing to meta I'll drop it for now, but it has me keeping my eye peeled. |
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Grapefruit21 said: @Coelestin I don't care about reasonings for not dropping an RVS, it's never helpful and prevents information from flowing. It's a way to make an impression without being tied to anything later. More often comes from scum than town in my experience. As for the CPurity read it's mostly gut but I liked the tone and style of the interaction with Lucian on the bottom of page one. @grrr You and I have very different definitions of weird roles if you're including lovers as a normal role. It's role madness so it's not as impactful, but why the PR hunting? I don't see how it benefits town. Also general aside I don't expect many of the standard roles to be here given that it's role madness. Vote: grrr But dropping an rvs, while trying to actually give real reasons for it tends to be more scummy. As town u normally think out your vote or just randomly vote. Overly justifying a vote is scummy not voting isnt scummy at all. PR Hunting does no harm because for one no one has claimed anything at all, aslong as no one claims him trying to understand the game benefits his way of palying and trying to understand the game. Me voting you for your opposite logic is no different than what ur doing with grrr right now. |
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LucianRoy said: He was my mason partner that game. Waaaiittt a minute, grapefruit was the guy who said he was a new player but sounded really good so no one believed him in that one game with soren. Nowww I remember. |
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PentaFlare said: Gross. Here I was hoping we could be friends Instead of needing to rope them. rather rope them seeing as how i distrust tpr, and the fact that you asked this question makes me wonder if ur tpr. LucianRoy said: I think I like grapefruit's vote better than mine. His has no bias in it. All the more reason to vote grr. Most of his reasoning his biased atleast the grrr vote is. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: rather rope them seeing as how i distrust tpr, and the fact that you asked this question makes me wonder if ur tpr. That's a stretch. Don't you think I would be more inclined to ask questions specific to my role via PM in response to my role than publicly in the thread? |
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PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: rather rope them seeing as how i distrust tpr, and the fact that you asked this question makes me wonder if ur tpr. That's a stretch. Don't you think I would be more inclined to ask questions specific to my role via PM in response to my role than publicly in the thread? sure its a stretch but like u just said before i never let anything slide and use everything at my deposal to find all the enemies of the town. |
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| This time I'm chilling guys, just a heads up... I'm not mafia so I don't have to spend ours trying to create cases out of thin air so I'm pretty relax. That being said, I'll be scum hunting but at my own pace. I won't go full Rinto thou so don't worry. @logic340 Tied votes have more pressure. Let's say Roy and I were tied, then we would be worried about trying to avoid looking too scummy to not get a 3rd vote that put us in the lead. If I'm on the lead then Roy can relax a bit since even if he gets a vote that means a tie (and all the other players have 2 votes less than me so they can keep up their performance cause they know they are safe that way). Maybe I'm being too paranoid but I prefer to trust no one until I can get proof of towniness. |
Shinichi-Kun said: Grapefruit21 said: @Coelestin I don't care about reasonings for not dropping an RVS, it's never helpful and prevents information from flowing. It's a way to make an impression without being tied to anything later. More often comes from scum than town in my experience. As for the CPurity read it's mostly gut but I liked the tone and style of the interaction with Lucian on the bottom of page one. @grrr You and I have very different definitions of weird roles if you're including lovers as a normal role. It's role madness so it's not as impactful, but why the PR hunting? I don't see how it benefits town. Also general aside I don't expect many of the standard roles to be here given that it's role madness. Vote: grrr But dropping an rvs, while trying to actually give real reasons for it tends to be more scummy. As town u normally think out your vote or just randomly vote. Overly justifying a vote is scummy not voting isnt scummy at all. PR Hunting does no harm because for one no one has claimed anything at all, aslong as no one claims him trying to understand the game benefits his way of palying and trying to understand the game. Me voting you for your opposite logic is no different than what ur doing with grrr right now. So PR hunting is fine because no one claimed in response to it? So we're only worried about results and not bad processes? I can follow what you're saying about his RVS and fair enough. That was largely a gut reaction, but I don't see a town benefit to sorting the game by PR weirdness and I can see that helping scum. Maybe @grrr has some plan I'm missing with that info, but lynching through claimed weird roles isn't exactly beneficial to town. I just can't believe that you are saying with a straight face you're okay with PR hunting. What grrr did isn't a grevious offence of it, but it's still trying to get PR info out in the open. And at this stage that largely benefits scum. Also Shinichi-Kun what do you think of grrr's RVS? Because it seems to fit the scummy bill you were desribing in defending Qoco. @logic340 Mason Bros for life! |
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Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: That's a stretch. Don't you think I would be more inclined to ask questions specific to my role via PM in response to my role than publicly in the thread? sure its a stretch but like u just said before i never let anything slide and use everything at my deposal to find all the enemies of the town. Sure, but in this case I think you are trying too hard to find something alignment indicative in a simple mechanics question. |
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LucianRoy said: Can I just vent about masons for a moment? Masons are actually op. If both players are reasonably good, they can get such an elevated view of the game by using the mason thread to voice ideas. They're anchors in the thread because they're confirmed town to each other, and it's almost like hydraing, except 10x better because you have two bodies and two heads instead of one body and two heads. As much as I hate asides I'm going down this rabbit hole with you. Masons are really strong, but they can be a balanced part of a game setup. You just can't really give a town with Mason's any other investigative power. I'd consider a basic set up reasonably balanced with something like 2 masons, 1 shot Vig, town RB, 5 VT scum strongman, goon, and bulletproof. It's just easy to overload town power with them because they don't look like an investigative. |
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Grapefruit21 said: Shinichi-Kun said: But dropping an rvs, while trying to actually give real reasons for it tends to be more scummy. As town u normally think out your vote or just randomly vote. Overly justifying a vote is scummy not voting isnt scummy at all. PR Hunting does no harm because for one no one has claimed anything at all, aslong as no one claims him trying to understand the game benefits his way of palying and trying to understand the game. Me voting you for your opposite logic is no different than what ur doing with grrr right now. So PR hunting is fine because no one claimed in response to it? So we're only worried about results and not bad processes? I can follow what you're saying about his RVS and fair enough. That was largely a gut reaction, but I don't see a town benefit to sorting the game by PR weirdness and I can see that helping scum. Maybe @grrr has some plan I'm missing with that info, but lynching through claimed weird roles isn't exactly beneficial to town. I just can't believe that you are saying with a straight face you're okay with PR hunting. What grrr did isn't a grevious offence of it, but it's still trying to get PR info out in the open. And at this stage that largely benefits scum. Also Shinichi-Kun what do you think of grrr's RVS? Because it seems to fit the scummy bill you were desribing in defending Qoco. @logic340 Mason Bros for life! So now everytime someone makes a mistake or a bad call they are scum? Since when did this become a thing, espically 6 hour into a game lol. The problem is Grrr always says or does something that involves figuring out the roles/mechanics of the game so this is always a neutral tell for me. Grrr always has a plan atleast as town, he just never tells anyone bcause that ruins it absically. Pr Hunting is fine because its not like hes saying Hey grapefruit are you the vigilante, you get what im saying dont you? Also the same info that scum are getting we are getting to if its done in the public thread we also have many more roles at out deposal than they do. Ya i dont understand his vote nor that post he made. It does in a sense fit that, but what im seeing is town grrr for now. |
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