logic340 said: _Claire_ said: Are you not reading the thread? I talked about my suspect who was on the train with RE. Please go read before you make yourself look worse than you already do.Will you suspect any other in Rosie's train? Just wondering. and NOT diverting attention, please.. this argument has been going on since last game, its getting boring. Sorry, please refer me. Also question, if I flip town, what do you think? Sorry again if you have addressed this qtn. As much as you are pissed I miss your post, you also miss a lot of points in my post :) |
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amberwillow said: You didn't mention my name? You quoted my post so I responded to you. If that makes me scum then say so but stop trying to make something out of nothing if you are town. This is the second time and I am not liking it? I am starting to think you are the one trying to make people look bad first with RE and now with me? This is why I asked you to tell me about your playstyle because if this is the usual then ok but it sounds like it isn't and concerns me. logic340 said: I was expressing my answer through that lil qstn. But well it's not like it indicates your aligment, just looked funny.You didn't answer my last question thought. And this is slightly different as it was a post you had quoted me in. You're nitpicking again like I picked up on with RE. Doesn't feel very town motivated at the moment can you explain your playstyle for me because it seems to me you look for little things to pick at and make them bigger than they really are. What do you mean? The question was pointed toward Cross not u. I didn't even mention your name, maybe u misunderstood to where it was aimed (even though I user-mentioned Cross fixing my original question #935?) because I adressed him under what u had pointed at. I am not sure if u are trying to make me look bad? I just noted what seemed bit strange to me. This is where trouble in communicating leads lel. I can't really explain how I play? I note what I notice and just see where it leads. If I see something off about the reply then I question. But you exaggerate saying that I always do that. Which side are you on in the Claire/Penta dichotomy? |
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logic340 said: _Claire_ said: My opinion didn't lead to me reading him scum so I don't see how we both were of the same opinion. My opinion was so opposite of your you asked me if I was trying to get you off the lynch. I wanted an objective answer from you which I could not get which has lead to your scum read and me not believing your claim. At this point you are just tighten the rope.I said I thought he was scummy IMO. You asked for my opinion, so I said the truth. Why the hell must my opinion match with you and if it doesnt it is wrong? .... Do you even read? |
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_Claire_ said: Nah you're living at the top of the thread go back and find it. If you cannot do that much then why should I even believe any of your arguments? Like you said I don't suspect anyone on Rosie's train which is false if you believe it support it with evidence.logic340 said: Are you not reading the thread? I talked about my suspect who was on the train with RE. Please go read before you make yourself look worse than you already do. Sorry, please refer me. Also question, if I flip town, what do you think? Sorry again if you have addressed this qtn. As much as you are pissed I miss your post, you also miss a lot of points in my post :) |
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_Claire_ said: I asked for your meta which you refused to give just said he felt scummy. This is why I scum read you. You are a meta player refusing to use meta. Grape's meta is off right now you don't bring it up. CP does you discredit him with Grapefrruit. It's weird and doesn't feel right.logic340 said: My opinion didn't lead to me reading him scum so I don't see how we both were of the same opinion. My opinion was so opposite of your you asked me if I was trying to get you off the lynch. I wanted an objective answer from you which I could not get which has lead to your scum read and me not believing your claim. At this point you are just tighten the rope. .... Do you even read? |
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logic340 said: _Claire_ said: Nah you're living at the top of the thread go back and find it. If you cannot do that much then why should I even believe any of your arguments? Like you said I don't suspect anyone on Rosie's train which is false if you believe it support it with evidence.Sorry, please refer me. Also question, if I flip town, what do you think? Sorry again if you have addressed this qtn. As much as you are pissed I miss your post, you also miss a lot of points in my post :) K. So all of Rosie's train are town? Also I ask, how if I flip town. Do you read, my dear? |
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_Claire_ said: If you flip town then there isn't much to think. Penta is scum and you didn't do town any favors with your poor behavior and made us waste a lynch. Look in the mirror be mad at yourself for D1 and improve for the next time.logic340 said: Nah you're living at the top of the thread go back and find it. If you cannot do that much then why should I even believe any of your arguments? Like you said I don't suspect anyone on Rosie's train which is false if you believe it support it with evidence. K. So all of Rosie's train are town? Also I ask, how if I flip town. Do you read, my dear? |
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logic340 said: I asked for your meta which you refused to give just said he felt scummy. This is why I scum read you. You are a meta player refusing to use meta. Grape's meta is off right now you don't bring it up. CP does you discredit him with Grapefrruit. It's weird and doesn't feel right. For CP meta, I said he was pretty scummy as he liked to do those long posts that he liked to do as scum. Also the way he handled things, IMO looks like scum. For GP meta, I said I couldnt comprehend his meta, as all of them are towns and his behaviours are different so I cant say for sure. I have said I couldnt comprehend his meta not that I am not giving it. I am done here, I am leaving. Thankyou for not listening to my post. |
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logic340 said: amberwillow said: You didn't mention my name? You quoted my post so I responded to you. If that makes me scum then say so but stop trying to make something out of nothing if you are town. This is the second time and I am not liking it? I am starting to think you are the one trying to make people look bad first with RE and now with me? This is why I asked you to tell me about your playstyle because if this is the usual then ok but it sounds like it isn't and concerns me. I was expressing my answer through that lil qstn. But well it's not like it indicates your aligment, just looked funny. What do you mean? The question was pointed toward Cross not u. I didn't even mention your name, maybe u misunderstood to where it was aimed (even though I user-mentioned Cross fixing my original question #935?) because I adressed him under what u had pointed at. I am not sure if u are trying to make me look bad? I just noted what seemed bit strange to me. This is where trouble in communicating leads lel. I can't really explain how I play? I note what I notice and just see where it leads. If I see something off about the reply then I question. But you exaggerate saying that I always do that. Which side are you on in the Claire/Penta dichotomy? logic stop helping scum and let this resolve itself. We don't need to take sides. Read, take notes, find possible buddies for both. Stop trying to pressure people to have an opinion when this resolves itself. Drawing the battle-lines now will make it harder for people to switch sides when mechanics resolves it for us. People hate to admit they are wrong so not forming an opinon on this till everyone has a chance to counter claim is counter productive. |
logic340 said: _Claire_ said: If you flip town then there isn't much to think. Penta is scum and you didn't do town any favors with your poor behavior and made us waste a lynch. Look in the mirror be mad at yourself for D1 and improve for the next time.K. So all of Rosie's train are town? Also I ask, how if I flip town. Do you read, my dear? Yeah no worries this is my last mafia game for the entire semester, so you won't get to see my horrible play anymore. Even if I play I will make sure not to play with you as I dont like your attitude here anymore, regardless you scum/town. As much as I know some of us have different playstyles, I never say someone is playing horrible to their face like this. You are picking on my personal feeling here, and I dont think I could continue to playing this game properly anymore. |
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_Claire_ said: logic340 said: I asked for your meta which you refused to give just said he felt scummy. This is why I scum read you. You are a meta player refusing to use meta. Grape's meta is off right now you don't bring it up. CP does you discredit him with Grapefrruit. It's weird and doesn't feel right. For CP meta, I said he was pretty scummy as he liked to do those long posts that he liked to do as scum. Also the way he handled things, IMO looks like scum. For GP meta, I said I couldnt comprehend his meta, as all of them are towns and his behaviours are different so I cant say for sure. I have said I couldnt comprehend his meta not that I am not giving it. I am done here, I am leaving. Thankyou for not listening to my post. 1. These are the weakest Meta reads you have ever given. Especially in the case of Purity who was your scum partner just two games ago. This is why I came to you because I figured if you lied to me about it I would catch you seeing as how I was just his teammate. I even asked you to think critically about the situation since we were both just scum with him and you refused. Grapefruit meta is off I sided with Purity and you say you can't tell. How could CP and I tell but you the meta expert cannot? This doesn't sit well with me and makes me feel like you could be protecting Grapefruit. He's tied to both you and Penta in my eyes so no mater the flip he is going to be getting grilled next. |
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Grapefruit21 said: I told you to stop helping scum all D1 what did you do? Ignore everything I said about Purity and call me scum. I would say you and Claire have helped scum more to this point just go reread D1 sir.logic340 said: You didn't mention my name? You quoted my post so I responded to you. If that makes me scum then say so but stop trying to make something out of nothing if you are town. This is the second time and I am not liking it? I am starting to think you are the one trying to make people look bad first with RE and now with me? This is why I asked you to tell me about your playstyle because if this is the usual then ok but it sounds like it isn't and concerns me. Which side are you on in the Claire/Penta dichotomy? logic stop helping scum and let this resolve itself. We don't need to take sides. Read, take notes, find possible buddies for both. Stop trying to pressure people to have an opinion when this resolves itself. Drawing the battle-lines now will make it harder for people to switch sides when mechanics resolves it for us. People hate to admit they are wrong so not forming an opinon on this till everyone has a chance to counter claim is counter productive. |
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Grapefruit21 said: I see it differently. Instead of jus going off the dichotomy we can look at their behavior and make other slip who their teammate is. We need to know where people stand on this issue. We need to know where people stood before this issue, during it, and after it imo.logic340 said: You didn't mention my name? You quoted my post so I responded to you. If that makes me scum then say so but stop trying to make something out of nothing if you are town. This is the second time and I am not liking it? I am starting to think you are the one trying to make people look bad first with RE and now with me? This is why I asked you to tell me about your playstyle because if this is the usual then ok but it sounds like it isn't and concerns me. Which side are you on in the Claire/Penta dichotomy? logic stop helping scum and let this resolve itself. We don't need to take sides. Read, take notes, find possible buddies for both. Stop trying to pressure people to have an opinion when this resolves itself. Drawing the battle-lines now will make it harder for people to switch sides when mechanics resolves it for us. People hate to admit they are wrong so not forming an opinon on this till everyone has a chance to counter claim is counter productive. |
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| @Grapefruit21 leave the claim out of it behaviorally who would you be siding with right now? |
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| Not really worth arguing until everyone shows up and checks in if they are the investigative power role. This situation is self resolving. We need Sollux, followind, Lamb, and grrr to check in. @Grapefruit21: I have no idea about how grrr plays but I hope no one shoots themselves in the foot if they are town. |
Crossbell said: Knowing how town has been playing lately it wouldn't surprise me much. What happens if they do not check in? We are approaching 24 hours into the second day now. Sitting around and waiting is accomplishing what? Not talking about how people feel about the two in question helps us how after the Dichotomy is resolved?Not really worth arguing until everyone shows up and checks in if they are the investigative power role. This situation is self resolving. We need Sollux, followind, Lamb, and grrr to check in. @Grapefruit21: I have no idea about how grrr plays but I hope no one shoots themselves in the foot if they are town. |
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| @Crossbell do you really believe that Claire would track Penta instead of CP last night based on D1? |
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| Sorry but I have this need for information. I don't understand the game theory behind PR>VT when T>S behaviorally. So when you have: Claimed PR behaving like scum and claimed VT behaving like town. How do you resolve this? |
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| @grrr, @Lam-B, @Sollux16, @Followind please check into the thread and help us sort through this. I would really like for us to get somewhere today. |
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_Claire_ said: PentaFlare said: No kidding I'm not going to see it from a possible town perspective on your part because you aren't town. I'm still going to point out if something could be townie though because I'm not trying to build a false narrative to show why you are scum, I'm trying to build a truthful narrative that shows why you were scum. That involves not misrepresenting actions. Also, you're omitting a key word. Occasionally by town, often by scum. It happen more often by scum which is why I felt it was valid to mention in these circumstances. You are also omitting the fact I could be town, and thats why your opinion of me here is not relevant anymore to me. Regardless of what I say/you say, I am scum to you and you sre scum to me. So I am not going to argue about this anymore to you but I want the others' opinions. I am more interested in what others have to say. Well, actually, you are scum to me and I am town to you, but obviously you are not going to say that. The thing is though, you can say you don't want to discuss it with me as much as you want, but everytime you confuse my wording to make it less clear, I'm going to correct and clarify that, so don't expect me to stop responding. |
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| I am going to say that Cross and Gape's behavior seem odd given Claire's D1 behavior. Grapefruti has done a complete 180 from when the claims was first made. he automatically voted for Penta saying it was the right thing to do. Now he feels we need to discuss it and make a decision. He is waffling on Claire all of a sudden when D1 he supported her since she wanted a lynch of CP but now cannot defend her behavior. She was inactive for half of D1 and did nothing but push CP, I think this falls inline with his warning and I don't like that he didn't push on it. With PentaFlare Grapefruit left him to his own devices though Grapefruit said that he would be forcing people to talk about how they feel about top trains. After being called out on the fact he didn't hold up his end of the Warning he says it is due to knowing that Penta was doing something and it drove the thread. I call BS here as he never stated that he'd be giving passes for those he felt were moving the thread. Penta took a position to get a reaction from Grapefruit which he never got. No matter who flips scum Grapefruti has some work to do because (not trying to be rude) he threw himself into a pocket (Penta or Claire) again on D1 and I am getting tired of it. If he isn't scum he needs to step back and start listening to what others think a little bit more. imo. If he is scum then everything makes sense. |
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PentaFlare said: If Grapefruit is Claire's teammate do you see him taking this strong a stance against you?_Claire_ said: You are also omitting the fact I could be town, and thats why your opinion of me here is not relevant anymore to me. Regardless of what I say/you say, I am scum to you and you sre scum to me. So I am not going to argue about this anymore to you but I want the others' opinions. I am more interested in what others have to say. Well, actually, you are scum to me and I am town to you, but obviously you are not going to say that. The thing is though, you can say you don't want to discuss it with me as much as you want, but everytime you confuse my wording to make it less clear, I'm going to correct and clarify that, so don't expect me to stop responding. |
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| @logic340 at this point I would lynch Penta. But it's utterly stupid and pointless to figure out now. Sure you might get a slip but you might also post so much that it alienates the less invested (which compared to you is everyone) and makes the game harder to solve. And again I know you know all of this. I get that you want to solve the game and crack it wide open so read D1 for people other than these two. Go back to the Rosie wagon and analyze the wagon and peoples on it behavior. And on the off chance we don't hear from everyone then we lynch away from the dichotomy and in the lurk pile and solve it the next day. My current choice would be followind. |
Grapefruit21 said: Actually was just doing this putting together a list of CP's interactions D1.@logic340 at this point I would lynch Penta. But it's utterly stupid and pointless to figure out now. Sure you might get a slip but you might also post so much that it alienates the less invested (which compared to you is everyone) and makes the game harder to solve. And again I know you know all of this. I get that you want to solve the game and crack it wide open so read D1 for people other than these two. Go back to the Rosie wagon and analyze the wagon and peoples on it behavior. And on the off chance we don't hear from everyone then we lynch away from the dichotomy and in the lurk pile and solve it the next day. My current choice would be followind. |
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| @Kit I am very deeply sorry but I dont think I am in emotional state where I can play this game. Would kindly ask to be mod-killed please, as I dont see how someone replacing me will be able to play this game comfortably. Sorry for the drama. I am not a PR, I am VT. I also dont expect anyone to believe me. I dont want the investigative role to be out, so I am saying this now. I dont want the game to turn into worse when the investigative was out, I just want reaction from people, but I dont expect things like this to happen. So yes. Goodluck. |
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Grapefruit21 said: @logic340 at this point I would lynch Penta. But it's utterly stupid and pointless to figure out now. Sure you might get a slip but you might also post so much that it alienates the less invested (which compared to you is everyone) and makes the game harder to solve. And again I know you know all of this. I get that you want to solve the game and crack it wide open so read D1 for people other than these two. Go back to the Rosie wagon and analyze the wagon and peoples on it behavior. And on the off chance we don't hear from everyone then we lynch away from the dichotomy and in the lurk pile and solve it the next day. My current choice would be followind. Why me? Can you give reasons? True I might be careless and left out some details but is there anything that you suspect me of scum? |
logic340 said: Why are u so defensive-agressive? I just said that I thought that it is NAI.amberwillow said: You didn't mention my name? You quoted my post so I responded to you. If that makes me scum then say so but stop trying to make something out of nothing if you are town. This is the second time and I am not liking it? I am starting to think you are the one trying to make people look bad first with RE and now with me? This is why I asked you to tell me about your playstyle because if this is the usual then ok but it sounds like it isn't and concerns me. I was expressing my answer through that lil qstn. But well it's not like it indicates your aligment, just looked funny. What do you mean? The question was pointed toward Cross not u. I didn't even mention your name, maybe u misunderstood to where it was aimed (even though I user-mentioned Cross fixing my original question #935?) because I adressed him under what u had pointed at. I am not sure if u are trying to make me look bad? I just noted what seemed bit strange to me. This is where trouble in communicating leads lel. I can't really explain how I play? I note what I notice and just see where it leads. If I see something off about the reply then I question. But you exaggerate saying that I always do that. Which side are you on in the Claire/Penta dichotomy? If u didn't understand what I meant then let me spell it out for you. I didn't thought that it wasn't clear. Oh well. Expand quotes, I colored them. This color is where I adressed Cross. This color is my reply to your post. Edit: fixed quote |
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Grapefruit21 said: @followind I had a D1 gut read on you. Just a visceral reaction to your wordings that said scum to me. Not enough to go on. @_Claire_ :( If it's not fun then don't play. Games should be fun Soo.. Cause of gut feeling.. I can't really argue with it.. Do you have any other reads besides me? |
_Claire_ said: DONT CLAIM YET. I want everyone to take a stance first about whether they believe my claim or not. At least wait until first half of this day phase (24 hours) pass. Especially I want @amberwillow to tell me what she thinks. @Lam-B too. Well dang if Claire's unclaiming tracker and claiming VT, this post would make a lot more sense..... |
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logic340 said: What can I say if u didn't understand what I meant? I didn't even mean to bring prominence to that, so from my pov u're overreacting and it feels strange.You didn't mention my name? You quoted my post so I responded to you. If that makes me scum then say so but stop trying to make something out of nothing if you are town. This is the second time and I am not liking it? I am starting to think you are the one trying to make people look bad first with RE and now with me? This is why I asked you to tell me about your playstyle because if this is the usual then ok but it sounds like it isn't and concerns me. Which side are you on in the Claire/Penta dichotomy? What makes u think that I am not acting like I normally do? I said that I act on how I feel, didn't I? And that is normal to me, so I don't see your point and where u get all this from o.O Also, I don't know about Claire and Penta yet, I didn't fully read everything, so I want to finish reading everything first. |
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Grapefruit21 said: logic340 said: You didn't mention my name? You quoted my post so I responded to you. If that makes me scum then say so but stop trying to make something out of nothing if you are town. This is the second time and I am not liking it? I am starting to think you are the one trying to make people look bad first with RE and now with me? This is why I asked you to tell me about your playstyle because if this is the usual then ok but it sounds like it isn't and concerns me. Which side are you on in the Claire/Penta dichotomy? logic stop helping scum and let this resolve itself. We don't need to take sides. Read, take notes, find possible buddies for both. Stop trying to pressure people to have an opinion when this resolves itself. Drawing the battle-lines now will make it harder for people to switch sides when mechanics resolves it for us. People hate to admit they are wrong so not forming an opinon on this till everyone has a chance to counter claim is counter productive. No. This is wrong. Forcing people to take a side based only on reads will be very insightful when flips come around. Are the reasons for picking one person over the other justified? What points are they noting. It is all valid material to build a read off. logic wants to further their read on willow by making willow express a side and there is nothing wrong with that. |
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RE1031 said: She's frustated alr.._Claire_ said: DONT CLAIM YET. I want everyone to take a stance first about whether they believe my claim or not. At least wait until first half of this day phase (24 hours) pass. Especially I want @amberwillow to tell me what she thinks. @Lam-B too. Well dang if Claire's unclaiming tracker and claiming VT, this post would make a lot more sense..... |
logic340 said: Is this frustation?Crossbell said: Knowing how town has been playing lately it wouldn't surprise me much. What happens if they do not check in? We are approaching 24 hours into the second day now. Sitting around and waiting is accomplishing what? Not talking about how people feel about the two in question helps us how after the Dichotomy is resolved?Not really worth arguing until everyone shows up and checks in if they are the investigative power role. This situation is self resolving. We need Sollux, followind, Lamb, and grrr to check in. @Grapefruit21: I have no idea about how grrr plays but I hope no one shoots themselves in the foot if they are town. |
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Grapefruit21 said: I think you two are partners bro. If she flips scum you neck is next. I am so done with you this game you been hanging on to logic is scum since....your first post....get out of the tunnel and lets do some work. Maybe logic is just scum after all. That would make today make a lot more sense. It feels like stubborn town logic but his focus on a few untrue points is absurd. Like he's mentioned RE butting in, Claire not giving meta, me not pushing Claire based on activity all like 5 times each... None of those except maybe possibly Claire giving meta mean anything at all but he keeps hammering them. Claire did give meta, it just was she didn't have a strong read on me. RE was being discussed (and he didn't have any issue with CP doing the same at the time with the Day Cop question) so chiming in makes sense. I think Claire has been as active as anyone not named logic. I'm too lazy to manually count posts in this thread but I bet Claire is top 5. And I've said most of this before but it keeps coming back up and I don't get it. So yeah he can blame this on salt too if he likes but I just don't know where logics head is at with this game. Oh and I told you Claire was lying.... can we lynch her now? |
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followind said: Exactly what it is. Grapefruit was trying to waste time and now look. She was lying just like I said.logic340 said: Is this frustation?Knowing how town has been playing lately it wouldn't surprise me much. What happens if they do not check in? We are approaching 24 hours into the second day now. Sitting around and waiting is accomplishing what? Not talking about how people feel about the two in question helps us how after the Dichotomy is resolved? |
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| If Penta really is scum then Claire has done nothing but help him hide that fact....this is like Alcatraz all over again but now I am on the other side...smh. Why does Town feel they need to lie and discredit themselves then bitch that town isn't paying attention? I still don't believe that she is town due to D1 and this gambit makes me feel even worse. I wish there was lynch lock so we could just get this over with and move on. |
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amberwillow said: I don't know how you normally play so I don't have anything to go on. This is why I asked because from my PoV you are making mountains out of mole hills and town doesn't need to do that. It feel like you are looking for reasons to support who you are targeting. RE's vote questions, Crossbell's suspect list, and now this situation with me. I also don't like that you aren't taking a side in the Clare/Penta debate. What were your reads on them before the claim came forward? You are making it hard for me to read you instead of being open and transparent I find that suspect.logic340 said: What can I say if u didn't understand what I meant? I didn't even mean to bring prominence to that, so from my pov u're overreacting and it feels strange.You didn't mention my name? You quoted my post so I responded to you. If that makes me scum then say so but stop trying to make something out of nothing if you are town. This is the second time and I am not liking it? I am starting to think you are the one trying to make people look bad first with RE and now with me? This is why I asked you to tell me about your playstyle because if this is the usual then ok but it sounds like it isn't and concerns me. Which side are you on in the Claire/Penta dichotomy? What makes u think that I am not acting like I normally do? I said that I act on how I feel, didn't I? And that is normal to me, so I don't see your point and where u get all this from o.O Also, I don't know about Claire and Penta yet, I didn't fully read everything, so I want to finish reading everything first. |
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PentaFlare said: Plus town points +++++Grapefruit21 said: logic stop helping scum and let this resolve itself. We don't need to take sides. Read, take notes, find possible buddies for both. Stop trying to pressure people to have an opinion when this resolves itself. Drawing the battle-lines now will make it harder for people to switch sides when mechanics resolves it for us. People hate to admit they are wrong so not forming an opinon on this till everyone has a chance to counter claim is counter productive. No. This is wrong. Forcing people to take a side based only on reads will be very insightful when flips come around. Are the reasons for picking one person over the other justified? What points are they noting. It is all valid material to build a read off. logic wants to further their read on willow by making willow express a side and there is nothing wrong with that. |
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| @_Claire_ if you are town I thought you would have learned from how the last lie as town backfired? This leads me to believe this was not a gambit and that you were caught and just decided to quit. I have made my case and I truly believe you are scum here. If you are not then you need to stop with the anti-town lying shit until you get some credibility back among the current player base. If you and Penta are T/T then you have wasted a day for us. If Penta is scum you have given then the ability to hide from us. You have made this Alcatraz 2.0 when you were so adamant about town "STEPPING UP" our game....wtf!? |
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| @Crossbell where do we go from here? I say lynch Claire and look at Grapefruit either way. |
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logic340 said: Grapefruit21 said: I think you two are partners bro. If she flips scum you neck is next. I am so done with you this game you been hanging on to logic is scum since....your first post....get out of the tunnel and lets do some work. Maybe logic is just scum after all. That would make today make a lot more sense. It feels like stubborn town logic but his focus on a few untrue points is absurd. Like he's mentioned RE butting in, Claire not giving meta, me not pushing Claire based on activity all like 5 times each... None of those except maybe possibly Claire giving meta mean anything at all but he keeps hammering them. Claire did give meta, it just was she didn't have a strong read on me. RE was being discussed (and he didn't have any issue with CP doing the same at the time with the Day Cop question) so chiming in makes sense. I think Claire has been as active as anyone not named logic. I'm too lazy to manually count posts in this thread but I bet Claire is top 5. And I've said most of this before but it keeps coming back up and I don't get it. So yeah he can blame this on salt too if he likes but I just don't know where logics head is at with this game. Oh and I told you Claire was lying.... can we lynch her now? If she's getting modkilled, then no. If she's getting replaced, maybe. Meanwhile we are back to square one. Which is a huge pain. We may have to read into night actions now - which means more claiming. |
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| I have absolutely no idea what to make of this situation. My gut thinks that Claire is town because her replace-out post sounded sincere. My brain, however, points to the fact that she falseclaimed to out the investigative power role in the game and to try to lynch Penta. Is this really another Overwatch Mafia, or is Claire just scum? |
PentaFlare said: this makes sense when I read it.So, Claire has just triggered one of her major scumtells in a game. When she is scum and is heavily suspected, especially early on, she will not try to defend herself by interacting with the players who suspect her and trying to change her mind. Town Claire will do this, usually getting very emotional in the process. However, mafia Claire will either just try and pull an emotion defense ("there is nothing I can defend myself with when it is only day 1. What could you expect me to do?" kind of thing) which is how I got her as scum in Shounen Crossover, or she will switch the argument to be about mechanics instead of mindset and past actions. This is definitely Claire's scum game. _Claire_ said: I can see where it is coming too. I would have expected anyone who was in Penta's position to be a bit more shaken, because if someone says that u visited someone when u don't have any night abilities, u are 100% sure that that person is lying. And Penta here looks a bit emotionally reserved? But he creats/created his case on Claire pretty well. So while I see Claire's point on this, it's not that easy to be sure of how one would behave in certain situations. (I can say so, because CP looked too calm to me and that bothered me, but he fliped town, so yeah).PentaFlare said: Alright, so if you have adapted your game and think you can defend yourself by showing a town motivation in the way you have approached the game, you could start with the question I brought up to you about posturing a read on Corrupted. I would write it I am in the train atm, and something going on later so the read may come up late. Oh this is a very strange attitude. If you are TRULY a VT, then you should have said I were lying and such, not trying to prove my point because if you are VT you know that you are right and I am wrong. |
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