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Mar 25, 2017 3:41 PM

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So the Fate show starts in 3-2 hours.Will you guys be watching that?
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KingOfSherous said:
Good. I don't think there was a single memorable track from 3rei's composer

These were really great IMO. I'm a sucker for orchestral pieces.


Nyarlathothep said:
As long as there is no creepy fanservice in the 3rei movie -____-

There's zero erotic fanservice in that arc. Well, GAR aside, of course.

ssjokg said:
So the Fate show starts in 3-2 hours.Will you guys be watching that?

I'm going to bed in a few, so I' guess i'll catch up to the news later.
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I vaguely remember there being creepy fanservice in between the flashbacks.

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Apoc in July, HF in October.

Apoc VAs are same VAs as the game . The new ones:

Sieg: Hanae Natsuki
Rider of Red: Furukawa Makoto
Assassin of Red: Shindou Kei
Caster of Black: Miyamoto Mitsuru
Archer of Black: Takeuchi Shunsuke
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Fate/Apocrypha TV anime new PV; airs July 2017.


KingOfSherous said:
I vaguely remember there being creepy fanservice in between the flashbacks.

There were two cuts in the flashback and they both have the cast sitting and reacting to the story. I don't remember there being any fanservice in there.
Mar 26, 2017 1:01 AM

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Hard to express myself with words so i do it like this...



I want it so badly. And hey we see Shiki like Jeanne hehe.
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astroprogs said:
Nyarlathothep said:
As long as there is no creepy fanservice in the 3rei movie -____-

There's zero erotic fanservice in that arc. Well, GAR aside, of course.


GAR?
Mar 26, 2017 1:36 AM

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Nyarlathothep said:
astroprogs said:

There's zero erotic fanservice in that arc. Well, GAR aside, of course.


GAR?
Oh myyyy ygod.

what are you doing here?
Mar 26, 2017 1:42 AM

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ssjokg said:
Nyarlathothep said:


GAR?
Oh myyyy ygod.

what are you doing here?


Chillin', killin'

I have a friend who is always amazed by / facepalming at my lack of knowledge when it comes to internet slang. I don't even use slang in my own mothertongue, so it's nothing to be surprised about.

So, you're all gays for manry Shirou from 3rei, Google answerred in your stead.
Mar 26, 2017 2:05 AM
Mar 26, 2017 2:15 AM

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Nyarlathothep said:
ssjokg said:
Oh myyyy ygod.

what are you doing here?


Chillin', killin'

I have a friend who is always amazed by / facepalming at my lack of knowledge when it comes to internet slang. I don't even use slang in my own mothertongue, so it's nothing to be surprised about.

So, you're all gays for manry Shirou from 3rei, Google answerred in your stead.

Nah, being GAR is not the same as being gay. Being GAR for Archer/Shirou is natural whether someone is hetero or not.
Mar 26, 2017 4:57 AM

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astroprogs said:
Nyarlathothep said:


Chillin', killin'

I have a friend who is always amazed by / facepalming at my lack of knowledge when it comes to internet slang. I don't even use slang in my own mothertongue, so it's nothing to be surprised about.

So, you're all gays for manry Shirou from 3rei, Google answerred in your stead.

Nah, being GAR is not the same as being gay. Being GAR for Archer/Shirou is natural whether someone is hetero or not.


But the first use of this term was meant to mean the 'Gay' word : "I'm gar for Archer" :p

It's sad how in this serie, even the Gilgamesh fanservice counts as creepy
Mar 26, 2017 5:22 AM

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Nyarlathothep said:
astroprogs said:

Nah, being GAR is not the same as being gay. Being GAR for Archer/Shirou is natural whether someone is hetero or not.


But the first use of this term was meant to mean the 'Gay' word : "I'm gar for Archer" :p

It's sad how in this serie, even the Gilgamesh fanservice counts as creepy

That's not how memes work. The origin is irrelevant, only the usage, and GAR =/= gay for usage.
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astroprogs said:
Nyarlathothep said:


But the first use of this term was meant to mean the 'Gay' word : "I'm gar for Archer" :p

It's sad how in this serie, even the Gilgamesh fanservice counts as creepy

That's not how memes work. The origin is irrelevant, only the usage, and GAR =/= gay for usage.


I know, I was joking
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Nyarlathothep said:
astroprogs said:

That's not how memes work. The origin is irrelevant, only the usage, and GAR =/= gay for usage.


I know, I was joking

I wasn't >:[ Memes are serious fucking business. L. O. Fucking. L.

Mar 26, 2017 9:14 AM

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^ I also think that I will like it, I did enjoy watching 3rei so I'm looking forward to this. I'm even considering continuing with the manga until the movie comes out
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Hey gaiz I just saw the apoc trailer. Is that Shirou? Omg why does he have white hair and look weird, is this him slowly becoming Archer? Why can't we have kiritsugu again, he was so cool with his guns and 360 no scope styling.

Did ufotoble lose a lot of money or something? Does this take place a few years after ubw? Where is Rin? Why is there a love plus idol being genki in here? Is this the fabled heavens feel story? Is that the red Saber with big tits I've heard so much about? I have so many questio-

*Gets skewered by multiple keys*
Mar 28, 2017 4:14 AM

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A few obscure things a lot of people don't know about either because of mistranslations or because Nasu can't English.
These are the actual names of:
King of Knights > Knight King.
King of Heroes > Hero King.
Knight of Honor > Owner Knight (who the hell calls Lancelot honorable?)
Heaven's Feel > Heaven's Veil (not 100% sure about this one).

Genkii said:
Hey gaiz I just saw the apoc trailer. Is that Shirou? Omg why does he have white hair and look weird, is this him slowly becoming Archer? Why can't we have kiritsugu again, he was so cool with his guns and 360 no scope styling.

Did ufotoble lose a lot of money or something? Does this take place a few years after ubw? Where is Rin? Why is there a love plus idol being genki in here? Is this the fabled heavens feel story? Is that the red Saber with big tits I've heard so much about? I have so many questio-

*Gets skewered by multiple keys*

I fully expect each and everyone of those in the summer.
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The first two rent really different.
Lancelot was tho.At least more than the others.Gawain was the ultimate prick before he became "good".
"Heaven's Feel" makes more sense as the 3rd Magic.You get a "feel" at playing god with manipulation of soul etc.

Btw did you made this or was it written somewhere?
Mar 28, 2017 5:36 AM

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astroprogs said:
Knight of Honor > Owner Knight (who the hell calls Lancelot honorable?)


Lancelot, not honorable? Dafuq. Like any other Round Table knight, Lancelot is a courteous knight, which does include what we call 'Courteous love'. Lancelot's particularity is that he vowed to give his heart to a single woman, and would sacrifice everything for her sake. This courteous love apart ('Courteous' because said woman is already married), Lancelot is supposed to pretty much be the perfect knight. Also, in Middle Age books, other characters would call Lancelot 'Honorable knight'.
In the French serie Kaamelott, Lancelot even makes a vow of nobility.
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ssjokg said:
The first two rent really different.
Lancelot was tho.At least more than the others.Gawain was the ultimate prick before he became "good".
"Heaven's Feel" makes more sense as the 3rd Magic.You get a "feel" at playing god with manipulation of soul etc.

Btw did you made this or was it written somewhere?

The first two aren't different, but the composition is more inline with the third.
I don't feel cheating with the king's wife is alright with the whole honorable thing. Even Lancelot admits to it in the GoA drama CD.

I read the first three on a BL translation thread. I can't remember where I read the fourth, that's why I said I'm not completely sure of that one.

Nyarlathothep said:
astroprogs said:
Knight of Honor > Owner Knight (who the hell calls Lancelot honorable?)


Lancelot, not honorable? Dafuq. Like any other Round Table knight, Lancelot is a courteous knight, which does include what we call 'Courteous love'. Lancelot's particularity is that he vowed to give his heart to a single woman, and would sacrifice everything for her sake. This courteous love apart ('Courteous' because said woman is already married), Lancelot is supposed to pretty much be the perfect knight. Also, in Middle Age books, other characters would call Lancelot 'Honorable knight'.
In the French serie Kaamelott, Lancelot even makes a vow of nobility.

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Lancelot vowed to be faithful to his king first. Honorable people don't discard vows for love, because that's the line between true loyalty and alignment of mutual self-interest.
Heck, that's Lancelot's entire character arc. When Artoria forgave him and kept calling him her best Knight, he lost it because he knows that he shouldn't be forgiven. Because he betrayed his king, because he's far from honorable.

Guys, don't let your feelings for a character excuse something like cheating.
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But Artoria didnt see it as cheating or a betrayal.That was the point.What Lancelot thinks is irrelevant.Saber thought that she was the worst king.Iskandar thinks that he is one of the best etc.

But even then people still see Lancelot(and his son) as the most honorable knights.
Mar 28, 2017 6:12 AM

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astroprogs said:
Nyarlathothep said:


Lancelot, not honorable? Dafuq. Like any other Round Table knight, Lancelot is a courteous knight, which does include what we call 'Courteous love'. Lancelot's particularity is that he vowed to give his heart to a single woman, and would sacrifice everything for her sake. This courteous love apart ('Courteous' because said woman is already married), Lancelot is supposed to pretty much be the perfect knight. Also, in Middle Age books, other characters would call Lancelot 'Honorable knight'.
In the French serie Kaamelott, Lancelot even makes a vow of nobility.

Read above
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Lancelot vowed to be faithful to his king first. Honorable people don't discard vows for love, because that's the line between true loyalty and alignment of mutual self-interest.
Heck, that's Lancelot's entire character arc. When Artoria forgave him and kept calling him her best Knight, he lost ot because he knows that he shouldn't be forgiven. Because he betrayed his king, because he's far from honorable.

Guys, don't let your feelings for a character excuse something like cheating.


That's why I mentionned "Courteous love", also called "Fin amor" : In Middle Age stories, it was supposed to be the best kind of love. Courteous Love is about the love between a man and a woman whose status is higher than the man's and who is already married. Tristan and Yseult's love is a courteous love, like Lancelot and Guenevere. Tristan also chose love rather than his king (Mark). Arthur's various love stories can also count as courteous love since he also had various mistresses but he's of higher status.
Also, as I said, Lancelot had a vow for love even before meeting Arthur. He chose the courteous love rather than honour, that's true. That love pretty much ruined it all for him and that's probably why it was his son who found the Grail and not him. Still, this love is a huge part in his legend, particularly when we take into account the ideal love that fin amor is.

I don't have much feelings for him, my favourite knight is Perceval (Because of dat serie) xD
Mar 28, 2017 6:22 AM

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Just passing by to say thanks for mention of Tristan, i want to mention him but you do the job xD

btw King of Heroes > Hero King. Hero King sounds much better... just saying
Mar 28, 2017 6:25 AM

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Relevant:


ssjokg said:
But Artoria didnt see it as cheating or a betrayal.That was the point.What Lancelot thinks is irrelevant.Saber thought that she was the worst king.Iskandar thinks that he is one of the best etc.

But even then people still see Lancelot(and his son) as the most honorable knights.

Actually, what both think is irrelevant. What's relevant is if the act of betrayal did happen or not.
Artoria really loves and admires Lancelot and feels a great amount of guilt towards Guenevere, so she saw the elopement as something understandable. It's not "it's not a betrayal", it's" even though it's a betrayal" and "despite the betrayal".
Lancelot absolutely betrayed Artoria, and that's a fact.

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That's why I mentionned "Courteous love", also called "Fin amor" : In Middle Age stories, it was supposed to be the best kind of love. Courteous Love is about the love between a man and a woman whose status is higher than the man's and who is already married. Tristan and Yseult's love is a courteous love, like Lancelot and Guenevere. Tristan also chose love rather than his king (Mark). Arthur's various love stories can also count as courteous love since he also had various mistresses but he's of higher status.
Also, as I said, Lancelot had a vow for love even before meeting Arthur. He chose the courteous love rather than honour, that's true. That love pretty much ruined it all for him and that's probably why it was his son who found the Grail and not him. Still, this love is a huge part in his legend, particularly when we take into account the ideal love that fin amor is.

I don't have much feelings for him, my favourite knight is Perceval (Because of dat serie) xD

Well, then we agree that he's not "honorable", he's just faithful to those he romantically loves.

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btw King of Heroes > Hero King. Hero King sounds much better... just saying

I agree. "Hero King" just makes much more sense for THE first Hero, rather than "King of Heroes".
Same goes for King of Conquerors > Conqueror King.
Neither Gil nor Iskandar were kings of Heroes or Conquerors.
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Still more honorable than others so yeah he is Knight of honor.
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ssjokg said:
Still more honorable than others so yeah he is Knight of honor.

Well, the fact that this isn't his canonical alias aside, I'd say it's more fitting to be "Knight of Honor*".


*Most of the time.
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astroprogs said:
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Still more honorable than others so yeah he is Knight of honor.

Well, the fact that this isn't his canonical alias aside, I'd say it's more fitting to be "Knight of Honor*".

* Most of the time.

*More than others.
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ssjokg said:
astroprogs said:

Well, the fact that this isn't his canonical alias aside, I'd say it's more fitting to be "Knight of Honor*".

* Most of the time.

*More than others.


*Although that's not saying much.
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astroprogs said:
Swagernator said:
btw King of Heroes > Hero King. Hero King sounds much better... just saying

I agree. "Hero King" just makes much more sense for THE first Hero, rather than "King of Heroes".
Same goes for King of Conquerors > Conqueror King.
Neither Gil nor Iskandar were kings of Heroes or Conquerors.

King of Heroes sounds more prestigious imo. Hero King is a literal translation of Eiyuu Ou and that's boring.
Mar 28, 2017 8:23 PM

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Whether Lancelot was honorable or not is irrelevant when the furigana of his NP is ナイト・オブ・オーナー(Knight of Owner). Honor would have been オナー
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Sorry to be that guy derailing a good topic but everytime I read the word 'Lancelot' this magical quote keeps playing in my head:

"When I grab my cock, it becomes my Noble Phantasm!"

Saber: SIIR LANCEL00TTT!!

"That's what happens though, you've seen it!"
Mar 29, 2017 1:02 AM

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The knights of round table was like...

Tristan - "Saber ! i'm sick of your shit, i'm off see ya"
Agravaine - "ho ho now i know your secret saber" i'm i first ?
Mordred - "papa dont like me, let's start a revolt"
Lancelot - "tie me more master, cmon more ! more !"

Bedivere and Gawain were loyal so no dirty talk about hem. (well they fight at the end by side of their king).

and Galahad was merely mentioned.
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astroprogs said:
Well, then we agree that he's not "honorable", he's just faithful to those he romantically loves.


It's not just that. Fin amor is about giving everything to the person they love, sacrificing everything and letting them be controlled by their passion. Lancelot gave up his honour for this sake, and this love was an ideal in medieval literature. He would have been most honorable if not for that.
There is a medieval book especially about Lancelot giving up his honour for Guenevere.

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Agravaine - "ho ho now i know your secret saber" i'm i first ?


Yuck .. Agravaine is Saber's nephew
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He would have been most honorable if not for...

Yes, un-honorable people are usually honorable until <insert life-altering event X here>.

I don't think expecting honorable people to not do un-honorable things regardless of circumstances to be that radical. People make mistakes and do bad things all the times, and that's alright since that's what makes us human, but we don't get to have our cake and eat it too.
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astroprogs said:
Nyarlathothep said:
He would have been most honorable if not for...

Yes, un-honorable people are usually honorable until <insert life-altering event X here>.

I don't think expecting honorable people to not do un-honorable things regardless of circumstances to be that radical. People make mistakes and do bad things all the times, and that's alright since that's what makes us human, but we don't get to have our cake and eat it too.


Conclusion : Love sucks and ruins everything. Lancelot is a victim ! *O* (Tristan is even more a victim since he fell in love with Yseult because of a magical potion, proof that it's evil)
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Now that i can view episode 11 for myself, they really polished it to the very best of their ability. I wasn't expecting muvh TBH, but i'm really impressed with what Silver Link did with the episode.

Here are some examples i took:


Overall, i feel it could've been much worse.
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That was quite the cocktease opening each spoiler tags trying to get to Sakuralot. But thanks.
Coming from a non-fan I have no idea how much was butchered but even I can tell it could have been so SO much greater.
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I know lame question but where to watch ? or are they just some exclusive DVD/B nipponjin versions ?
Apr 4, 2017 5:37 AM

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Toothless creepy faces are creepy in manga.Not so much in anime.
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Swagernator said:
I know lame question but where to watch ? or are they just some exclusive DVD/B nipponjin versions ?

You need to do some yarr'ing with Japanese cats. If you don't understand this sentence, then, oh sweet innocent summer child, you'll need to wait for a bit for the related to be up and I'll post 'em here.

EDIT: There you go.
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@astroprogs Oh thanks. I just wait :D

my internet speed is strongly against so i'll wait for some reupload somewhere someday.
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@astroprogs Oh thanks. I just wait :D

my internet speed is strongly against so i'll wait for some reupload somewhere someday.

Aight, here's a much smaller upload.

NOTE: These are RAW. Meaning, not translation.
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New Newtype scans:


(Now with each character's team, class and seiyū)
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A head's up regarding the Fate/Grand Order - First Order - Bluray.

It contains all the CMs of the game including the ones made by ufotable and Silver Link AND the game's OP all in full HD.
Suffice to say, they all look disgustingly sharp and beautiful compared to Youtube's crappy encodes.

Here are a few screenshot in gorgeous full-bitrate 1080p:
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Very effective @astroprogs
My Queens

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astroprogs said:

Here are a few screenshot in gorgeous full-bitrate 1080p:


Oh god, the moment I saw Tight tits sensei I immediately want to watch these in all cinematic glory.
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Extella is coming to the Nintendo Switch this July apparently. What's the point of owning a Vita again?
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Extella is coming to the Nintendo Switch this July apparently. What's the point of owning a Vita again?


Does the Switch have Japanese visual novels and Persona 4 Golden?
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inb4 Persona 5 is announced for the Switch
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