| Suzune and Rosie both had interesting responses to it. Rosie's naked vote on me strikes me strangely. I don't necessarily scum read it, but I can't see why town makes that vote. Suzune on the other hand has a great response. Problem is I know Suzunes strength as scum is to reply rationally to everything. The response was good and definitely town+ but not so much that it slides up to join claire atop the townreads. So then looking at the list we shouldn't lynch Claire, Sleip, Kit, Ruu, or suzune today. Phraze and miles I think are okay for now too. So for now I'm going to advocate lynching among the PoE- (phrase, miles, and suzune are definitely in it, just not as high) and choose from lam-b, Sonata, Rinto, and Rosie. Of those I'm most comfortable with this right now Vote: Lam-b because they just posted a lot but didn't really say anything when there was a fair bit going on. |
Sleipnirr said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: vote:grapefruit why though can you give a little more substance to this vote. Or is it that you are milennin's neighbour? I can see sleip trying to bait Rosie with the neighbour question (and also trying to distance himself from Mile) but this could still be true (not the neighbours part but the buddies idea). Why did she just vote for grape without saying much? RVS usually comes with some kind of fluff comment... instead she just voted and left and for grape who was the accuser.... Rosie can you explain this action please? |
π Vote Count 1.6 π π Sleipnirr π (3): π Milennin, _Claire_, Lam-B π π Lam-B π (3): π Ruu, Phraze, Grapefruit21 π Oyasumi_Rosie (1): π Sleipnirr π Phraze (1): π Kit π Grapefruit21 (1): π Oyasumi_Rosie π Kit (1): π Suzune-chan π π΅ Not Voting π΅: β‘ Rinto-kun, Sonata β‘ >>Day 1 Timer<< |
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Grapefruit21 said: Suzune and Rosie both had interesting responses to it. Rosie's naked vote on me strikes me strangely. I don't necessarily scum read it, but I can't see why town makes that vote. Suzune on the other hand has a great response. Problem is I know Suzunes strength as scum is to reply rationally to everything. The response was good and definitely town+ but not so much that it slides up to join claire atop the townreads. So then looking at the list we shouldn't lynch Claire, Sleip, Kit, Ruu, or suzune today. Phraze and miles I think are okay for now too. So for now I'm going to advocate lynching among the PoE- (phrase, miles, and suzune are definitely in it, just not as high) and choose from lam-b, Sonata, Rinto, and Rosie. Of those I'm most comfortable with this right now Vote: Lam-b because they just posted a lot but didn't really say anything when there was a fair bit going on. Have you played with Lamby before? Playing with him is like trying to decipher Mars or Neptune's code. Though I should say once you realize it, what he does is pretty much straighforward. Just hard to decipher. |
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Sleipnirr said: I have voted grapefruit first every single game I have played in. It's a very bad good luck charm.Oyasumi_Rosie said: vote:grapefruit why though can you give a little more substance to this vote. Or is it that you are milennin's neighbour? |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Sleipnirr said: I have voted grapefruit first every single game I have played in. It's a very bad good luck charm.why though can you give a little more substance to this vote. Or is it that you are milennin's neighbour? nah nah nah nah you dont vote like that (its pretty ironic coming from me actually?) |
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Sleipnirr said: what do you mean I don't vote like that? Are you trying to get in my head? Or perhaps you are already there?Oyasumi_Rosie said: I have voted grapefruit first every single game I have played in. It's a very bad good luck charm. nah nah nah nah you dont vote like that (its pretty ironic coming from me actually?) |
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Sleipnirr said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: I have voted grapefruit first every single game I have played in. It's a very bad good luck charm. nah nah nah nah you dont vote like that (its pretty ironic coming from me actually?) You used to vote for Soren... a lot. >_> |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Sleipnirr said: what do you mean I don't vote like that? Are you trying to get in my head? Or perhaps you are already there?nah nah nah nah you dont vote like that (its pretty ironic coming from me actually?) What I meant is you should not vote that way it doesnt help us read you as you are always voting them and its mostly a null read which scum wants to achieve. |
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_Claire_ said: Sleipnirr said: nah nah nah nah you dont vote like that (its pretty ironic coming from me actually?) You used to vote for Soren... a lot. >_> shhh no one needs to know |
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Sleipnirr said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: what do you mean I don't vote like that? Are you trying to get in my head? Or perhaps you are already there? What I meant is you should not vote that way it doesnt help us read you as you are always voting them and its mostly a null read which scum wants to achieve. So you think that we should get rid of RVS? |
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π Vote Count 1.7 π π Sleipnirr π (3): π Milennin, _Claire_, Lam-B π π Lam-B π (3): π Ruu, Phraze, Grapefruit21 π Oyasumi_Rosie (1): π Sleipnirr π Phraze (1): π Kit π Grapefruit21 (1): π Oyasumi_Rosie π Kit (1): π Suzune-chan π Claire (1): π Rinto-kun π π΅ Not Voting π΅: β‘ Sonata β‘ >>Day 1 Timer<< |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Sleipnirr said: What I meant is you should not vote that way it doesnt help us read you as you are always voting them and its mostly a null read which scum wants to achieve. So you think that we should get rid of RVS? well you would be right if it was rvs but your vote is not rvs did you not say that yourself? |
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Sleipnirr said: well you would be right if it was rvs but your vote is not rvs did you not say that yourself? But I did? |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Sleipnirr said: well you would be right if it was rvs but your vote is not rvs did you not say that yourself? But I did? you said you always vote for grape at the start of a day this is not rvs is it? |
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Yeah as a good luck charm. Its a totally RVS. |
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do you even know what rvs means. It means random vote stage but if you always vote for grape it doesnt make it random. |
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Kit said: I guess, I disagree. I assume everyone is potential for mafia and set them all at netural instead of town. This allows me to judge them all objectively rather then creating a bias because that be would affect my ability to read them. Suzune-chan said: When I say "assume" I don't mean actually believing someone is town, but for the purposes of discussion at least acting like they could be town. "Assuming the position of town" or in other words pretending. Not being able to "assume" some are town makes it sound like this game is "every man for himself" when we as town should try to work together. What happened to "innocent until proven guilty" or does that not apply to mafia? I'm not sure what you're saying is about liability thing so I can't comment.You should not assume anything until you can form a read. Since we cannot see other's private chats it becomes a liability what you say because it can be used against you. Also, Vote: Kit You are online, so at least I can poke you a little. You're right in your previous post about how battling in this thread can create an early town read, but I don't really see that going on. Grape accused Mil and Mil asked if he was on drugs... and not much other commenting besides a few of us putting in a few cents. I don't think they should argue in their private chat but maybe have more discussion than whatever happened in the space of a few hours I fear highly that the private topics will either get unused or will hinder us. |
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| @Phraze As there was a hour between our posts I do not find it strange that I was not there to respond. However, I did respond back to them now so I will see what happens. |
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Milennin said: The reaction was all that was important and yours was very interesting.By the way, for anyone wondering about my reaction to Grapefruit's post, I'm not even in the secret club with him for Day 1, nor have I chatted in it. I'm with Sleipnirr for the first Day. |
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Sleipnirr said: do you even know what rvs means. It means random vote stage but if you always vote for grape it doesnt make it random. Yeah but my reason for doing is. Does this make me scummy? |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Well considering there are less then twenty four hours in the game when we are still talking about being in rvs, no, but you would think you would want to push it on. Thet this point stalling it and showing no desire to solve it looks scummy.Sleipnirr said: do you even know what rvs means. It means random vote stage but if you always vote for grape it doesnt make it random. Yeah but my reason for doing is. Does this make me scummy? |
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Suzune-chan said: Well considering there are less then twenty four hours in the game when we are still talking about being in rvs, no, but you would think you would want to push it on. Thet this point stalling it and showing no desire to solve it looks scummy. Woudln't that be more of Sliep fault for pushing it then? Going after me for semantics when it doesn't prove anything is just as bad as me. After that, no one else is posting anything of interest. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Suzune-chan said: Well considering there are less then twenty four hours in the game when we are still talking about being in rvs, no, but you would think you would want to push it on. Thet this point stalling it and showing no desire to solve it looks scummy. Woudln't that be more of Sliep fault for pushing it then? Going after me for semantics when it doesn't prove anything is just as bad as me. After that, no one else is posting anything of interest. No I am just pointing out that what you are doing is not rvs even though you claim it to be and a safe move mafia does with a reason like its what I always do. I did keep my vote on you because of that. vote change: Lamb There is a tie and I dont like it sadly you are the second train |
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Any reason behind your vote? With 24 hours past and over 2 pages of posts, we're pretty much out of RVS. |
π Vote Count 1.8 π π Lam-B π (4): π Ruu, Phraze, Grapefruit21, Sleipnirr π Sleipnirr (3): π Milennin, _Claire_, Lam-B π Phraze (1): π Kit π Grapefruit21 (1): π Oyasumi_Rosie π Kit (1): π Suzune-chan π Claire (1): π Rinto-kun π π΅ Not Voting π΅: β‘ Sonata β‘ >>Day 1 Timer<< |
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| First time opening mal and this is all I get? Seriously, where is everybody? Well... let's talk about the new posts. I think Sleip is trying to make Rosie look scummy using semantics. If I had to choose I would say sleip looks more scummy than Rosie after their exchange. I still can't decide if Mile's response to grape's false accusation came from a scare townie or scare scum. Hopefully I will get a better read before day change. Lamb is not trying to survive at all so I think he might flip town if we lynch him. I mean mafia wouldn't be so calm when there are only 3/4 of them and they can't afford to loose people. Based on that I'll change my vote: vote change: Sleipnirr @Sonata mmm hello? what are your plans for today? are you going to vote? come chat with us! This is the first time playing together btw :D |
| @Milennin why did you decide to tell us who was your lover? What do you think of Sleip? and grape? |
π Vote Count 1.9 π π Sleipnirr π (4): π Milennin, _Claire_, Lam-B, Ruu π Lam-B (3): π Phraze, Grapefruit21, Sleipnirr π Phraze (1): π Kit π Grapefruit21 (1): π Oyasumi_Rosie π Kit (1): π Suzune-chan π Claire (1): π Rinto-kun π π΅ Not Voting π΅: β‘ Sonata β‘ >>Day 1 Timer<< |
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| @Oyasumi_Rosie why did your good luck vote wait till after I'd dropped what looked like a serious accusation? You had posted before that. @Ruu pretty sure Sleip is town. At everyone complaining about lack of content with less that 24 to go why aren't you interacting with my reads wall? |
Ruu said: First time opening mal and this is all I get? Seriously, where is everybody? Well... let's talk about the new posts. I think Sleip is trying to make Rosie look scummy using semantics. If I had to choose I would say sleip looks more scummy than Rosie after their exchange. I still can't decide if Mile's response to grape's false accusation came from a scare townie or scare scum. Hopefully I will get a better read before day change. Lamb is not trying to survive at all so I think he might flip town if we lynch him. I mean mafia wouldn't be so calm when there are only 3/4 of them and they can't afford to loose people. Based on that I'll change my vote: vote change: Sleipnirr @Sonata mmm hello? what are your plans for today? are you going to vote? come chat with us! This is the first time playing together btw :D Oh hi there. Been quite busy this afternoon/evening so I haven't been reading much (not like there is much to be read anyway, just over 100 posts lol), and now I'm going to bed! However, tomorrow I'll probably be more interactive although I'm not a player that pushes for lynches day 1. Tomorrow after I read everything that's gone on I'll see whether I place my vote on a train or not. Also need to discuss impressions with my loveydovey partner too. |
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Ruu said: @Milennin why did you decide to tell us who was your lover? What do you think of Sleip? and grape? Why I did? Because there's nothing to gain from not saying it. I don't really get Sleipnirr's attempt at a discussion about RVS with _Claire_. Doesn't seem like it served any purpose, only to add more posts to the thread, but I could be wrong. I feel comfortable keeping my vote on him, for now. Grapefruit21's opening post amused me, because I honestly thought he was on drugs when he read it (lol), hence why I asked him if he was. Sadly, he was not, but he seemed to have taken the initiative with that and get things going a bit, which is why I'd put him closer on the town-side. |
Grapefruit21 said: Claire is my strongest read in the game right now. They react in a very towny way (trying to get into my pov) and point out a great point that milennin didn't drop an OMGUS vote even as they reacted super defensively. Joining Claire in my town block is sleip. Really like his reaction as well. And his attempt to get get more out of Rosie. Now for reactions I don't love: Phraze and Lam-b seemed pretty nonplussed by it. Which is normalish for phraze, but he's not doing anything active either. As for lam not sure what is going on there but they seem to be a little too relaxed if that makes any sense at all. And milennin. I put you in a crap spot, and your reaction was a mixed bag. The level to which you immediately got super defensive wasn't a great look. But not revenge voting is a solid one as Claire said. I would be more comfortable following that +town action with a stronger read if you'd done more. But you haven't and I'm not read to move you to town block yet. Why is revenge voting scummy? Scum can know that it wouldn't look good if they did. I don't see a townie mindset behind sleip's actions. Why are you so sure of his towniness? Tbh I don't have townreads so far. Everyone is either neutral or looking scummy. I agree on Suzune. Her scum game is pretty good so is hard to tell when she is town or mafia. Phraze was also very absent during our last game so I'm not seeing her behaviour so far as scummy. I'll wait and see before making any assumptions. What do you think of the fact that lamb is not defending himself? Also you were right, I complained about the lack of activity but didn't comment much on your reads. My bad. |
| @milennin you are not supposed to get my talk with claire as that is a joke between me and players who know me before. Secondly I am trying to get more out of rosie trying to corner her making her contribute. I dont really get how this is scummy. @ruu well can you tell me what is wrong with me with questioning rosie since in your eyes it makes me look like scum? It would help as you only say he was trying to corner rosie. Consider it like this if I was mafia what would O gain from that? What makes you think that I am scum not her. |
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Sleipnirr said: @ruu well can you tell me what is wrong with me with questioning rosie since in your eyes it makes me look like scum? It would help as you only say he was trying to corner rosie. Consider it like this if I was mafia what would O gain from that? What makes you think that I am scum not her. what I don't like is the way you chose to do it. Is like you are trying to pressure her using a very weak excuse. Maybe Rosie is mafia Idk but the way you went after her looks like an attempt to shade her more than to get reads from her. Also my paranoia is reaching a new level because I'm thinking of the posibility that grape and you are buddies - because he said that you were town in a very confident manner which at this point in the game seems strange. How can he get such a strong town read from a couple of posts? I'm not seeing it. |
Suzune-chan said: I don't really disagree with what you're saying, I just didn't think Mil was scum for slipping grape as town. We now know that was a lie so the point is mootKit said: I guess, I disagree. I assume everyone is potential for mafia and set them all at netural instead of town. This allows me to judge them all objectively rather then creating a bias because that be would affect my ability to read them. When I say "assume" I don't mean actually believing someone is town, but for the purposes of discussion at least acting like they could be town. "Assuming the position of town" or in other words pretending. Not being able to "assume" some are town makes it sound like this game is "every man for himself" when we as town should try to work together. What happened to "innocent until proven guilty" or does that not apply to mafia? I'm not sure what you're saying is about liability thing so I can't comment. You're right in your previous post about how battling in this thread can create an early town read, but I don't really see that going on. Grape accused Mil and Mil asked if he was on drugs... and not much other commenting besides a few of us putting in a few cents. I don't think they should argue in their private chat but maybe have more discussion than whatever happened in the space of a few hours I fear highly that the private topics will either get unused or will hinder us. I see, yeah that is likely. I'm honestly not really sure how we're supposed to utilize them to town's benefit when we can't quite trust our partners |
π Vote Count 1.10 π (Unchanged) π Sleipnirr π (4): π Milennin, _Claire_, Lam-B, Ruu π Lam-B (3): π Phraze, Grapefruit21, Sleipnirr π Phraze (1): π Kit π Grapefruit21 (1): π Oyasumi_Rosie π Kit (1): π Suzune-chan π Claire (1): π Rinto-kun π π΅ Not Voting π΅: β‘ Sonata β‘ >>Day 1 Timer<< |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: So why not be part of the problem? Is that the mindset here. Honestly, I keep saying it but I will say it again, I do not condone people's bad mafia habits.Suzune-chan said: Well considering there are less then twenty four hours in the game when we are still talking about being in rvs, no, but you would think you would want to push it on. Thet this point stalling it and showing no desire to solve it looks scummy. Woudln't that be more of Sliep fault for pushing it then? Going after me for semantics when it doesn't prove anything is just as bad as me. After that, no one else is posting anything of interest. |
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Kit said: Honestly in my past experience they are only a benefit if you know the alignment of your partner, so many teams have risen and sunk by them.Suzune-chan said: I don't really disagree with what you're saying, I just didn't think Mil was scum for slipping grape as town. We now know that was a lie so the point is mootI guess, I disagree. I assume everyone is potential for mafia and set them all at netural instead of town. This allows me to judge them all objectively rather then creating a bias because that be would affect my ability to read them. I fear highly that the private topics will either get unused or will hinder us. I see, yeah that is likely. I'm honestly not really sure how we're supposed to utilize them to town's benefit when we can't quite trust our partners |
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| @Ruu yay! My Romeo finally arrived <33 I actually noticed this late.. so scary~you are voting lamb with me? interesting >_> yep I'm following ur lead. ur too townie to ignore :3early trains are great thou xD Hopefully lamb will show up after seen the vc -_- I agree on Suzune. Her scum game is pretty good so is hard to tell when she is town or mafia. Phraze was also very absent during our last game so I'm not seeing her behaviour so far as scummy. I'll wait and see before making any assumptions. First time opening mal and this is all I get? gray/doubtcasting posts look bad to me. quite a tell coming from Ruu@Grapefruit21 Now for reactions I don't love: Phraze and Lam-b seemed pretty nonplussed by it. Which is normalish for phraze, but he's not doing anything active either. As for lam not sure what is going on there but they seem to be a little too relaxed if that makes any sense at all. Lamb's could be having a good partner hence why he's not worried. that or it could be the scumteam behind him. I'm being, as u say, normalish.@Suzune-chan As there was a hour between our posts I do not find it strange that I was not there to respond. However, I did respond back to them now so I will see what happens. referring to this? vvvu wanna poke Kit for what? got what u wanted yet? I see no interaction where's the reply? I probably missed it |
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| @Rinto-kun why vote Claire? is it worth it..? actually I'm starting to like that option too, Claire voting sure told alot in the other game I played with her |
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Suzune-chan said: Milennin said: The reaction was all that was important and yours was very interesting.By the way, for anyone wondering about my reaction to Grapefruit's post, I'm not even in the secret club with him for Day 1, nor have I chatted in it. I'm with Sleipnirr for the first Day. Which part is interesting? I find it normal. Kit said: Suzune-chan said: I don't really disagree with what you're saying, I just didn't think Mil was scum for slipping grape as town. We now know that was a lie so the point is mootI guess, I disagree. I assume everyone is potential for mafia and set them all at netural instead of town. This allows me to judge them all objectively rather then creating a bias because that be would affect my ability to read them. I fear highly that the private topics will either get unused or will hinder us. I see, yeah that is likely. I'm honestly not really sure how we're supposed to utilize them to town's benefit when we can't quite trust our partners I think its just a valentine's thing. How you utilize it is up to you. It can be used to force opinion from someone's I think. |
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Sleipnirr said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: Woudln't that be more of Sliep fault for pushing it then? Going after me for semantics when it doesn't prove anything is just as bad as me. After that, no one else is posting anything of interest. No I am just pointing out that what you are doing is not rvs even though you claim it to be and a safe move mafia does with a reason like its what I always do. I did keep my vote on you because of that. vote change: Lamb There is a tie and I dont like it sadly you are the second train What is this self-preservation vote :/ I dont like it one bit. Are you cracking under vote pressure? :/ |
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Phraze said: gray/doubtcasting posts look bad to me. quite a tell coming from Ruu what do you mean? Also stop townreading me people or I will die N1! ;-; |
_Claire_ said: Sleipnirr said: No I am just pointing out that what you are doing is not rvs even though you claim it to be and a safe move mafia does with a reason like its what I always do. I did keep my vote on you because of that. vote change: Lamb There is a tie and I dont like it sadly you are the second train What is this self-preservation vote :/ I dont like it one bit. Are you cracking under vote pressure? :/ do you have any scum reads Claire? what do you think of grape/sleip as a possible team. My "Phraze side" is telling me that it could be a posibility. That's why I think sleip flip might help us get a better read on grape/ rosie / Mile |
Ruu said: _Claire_ said: What is this self-preservation vote :/ I dont like it one bit. Are you cracking under vote pressure? :/ do you have any scum reads Claire? what do you think of grape/sleip as a possible team. My "Phraze side" is telling me that it could be a posibility. That's why I think sleip flip might help us get a better read on grape/ rosie / Mile I dont understand the connection between Grape/Sleip, care to enlighten me? I dont have scumread yet, I am not surprised as day 1 I am most likely in the dark as I like go see VC analysis instead of words/behaviour. Except you want my meta-read on Sleipnirr, I think I have an idea. I think he is town, but the thing is so many people decide to lurk I have no idea whats going on. Day 1 is supposed to be filled with posts but... :/ I think what grapefruit did was justified. I had never done such a bold move before day 1, but I have seen many towns do it. If anything, I dont think scums will do such a bold move, so for the moment I do townread grapefruit (in scale-wise, not absolutely town-reading him, dont wanna get pocketed) and even if anything, i dont want to lynch grape as I think he is a great town-player. Never see his scum play, I dont think he has ever flipped town. On Rosie, I think I dont have much idea. Mile's response as I have said normal, but she hasnt posted much, its bothering me. Neither has Sonata posted much, or Rinto. Rinto as scum does lurk too much though. |
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