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Dec 31, 2016 12:27 PM
#601
Soren said: That wasn't directed at you. I was talking about lord playing in the same way that 0x40 is. Casting shade at you while not committing on a scum read on you. Yeah sorry I meant that post more to Lord Sithis than you. That post was the one I saw. Sorry again. |
Dec 31, 2016 12:31 PM
#602
rosielovesanime said: Don't need to apologise so much~Soren said: That wasn't directed at you. I was talking about lord playing in the same way that 0x40 is. Casting shade at you while not committing on a scum read on you. Yeah sorry I meant that post more to Lord Sithis than you. That post was the one I saw. Sorry again. |
Dec 31, 2016 12:39 PM
#603
I'm going to use the night phase to reread and make some notes. See everyone next day phase! |
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Dec 31, 2016 12:40 PM
#604
I'm going to spend some the night phase watching this anime. Watched the first two episodes the other day on the surface not my cup of tea but quite entertaining so far. @Togs Is night talk allowed? |
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Dec 31, 2016 12:54 PM
#605
logic340 said: Yep, Night talk is perfectly allowed.I'm going to spend some the night phase watching this anime. Watched the first two episodes the other day on the surface not my cup of tea but quite entertaining so far. @Togs Is night talk allowed? |
Dec 31, 2016 2:18 PM
#606
Even from 40xx? |
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Dec 31, 2016 2:27 PM
#607
LucianRoy said: Yep, he can talk all he wants in the dead chat.Even from 40xx? |
Dec 31, 2016 5:52 PM
#608
Ohh man night chat is so weird to me. I can be talking while I'm getting whacked. Bad lynch wad bad, but that what happens when you don't post as when you're about to get lynched I guess. Interesting eod with how little movement there was at the end very interesting. |
Dec 31, 2016 6:20 PM
#609
I'm actually surprised at how there wasn't a panic EoD. This is the first I've seen that happen. |
Dec 31, 2016 8:11 PM
#610
Happy New Years from the United States Virgin Islands! Everyone be safe see you in the morning. |
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Dec 31, 2016 11:26 PM
#611
Oh jeez. It's like 1 AM here I just spent New Year's rereading a mafia game. ;-; Happy 2017 everyone. |
Jan 1, 2017 11:56 AM
#612
This post took me all day yesterday to make. ;7; πTown and Townleansπ Gruffin - I’m town. Logic - He had a slow start on the scumhunting, but his recent efforts are looking like town!Logic. I like the way he reacted to my pressure early on. His reaching out to inactive players by asking them questions is also townie and I can follow his reasoning for not liking the 0x40 lynch because of what happened in our previous game. Grapefruit - For some reason I found their posts hard to follow D1, so I slowed down on this one. The read on Lucian felt natural and complete, and it’s progression came from what feels like a townie mindset. It’s funny how he’s reminded me a bit of Logic in the way he goes about forming reads. Penta - I like the questions they are asking, it feels like they are working out the game. I like the open approach. Still need to talk to them mroe, just feel like we haven’t discussed much together. Soren - (I can’t believe I missed all of those username jokes on Page 1, lol) He built a case on me based on previous knowledge of my playstyle, which I can understand. I like how in 311 he considers the possibility of bias because he could have easily pushed a mislynch on me as scum from my POV. Lord_Sithis - I don’t know why he’s gotten so much flack from his catch up posts, they seem alright to me. Lucian said something about it being IIoA, but there is analysis in them alongside the information. 426 is evidence that withholding his vote may just be his style and I interpreted the suspicion on Rosie’s vote as townie paranoia. Sonata - I can understand where the are coming from with not liking D1 lynches, it comes off as more of a moral issue more than anything. I like that they also recognize the benefits of it even more and do not try to dissuade people from lynching D1. The role fishing was really weird at first, but would mafia be so blatant about it? She said it was sarcasm so eh okay. I accept her vote on me as a reasonable D1 vote considering her approach this game. πNeutralπ Kit - The logic behind 0x40’s lynch is sound. They’re not acting suspicious, but I’d still like to talk with them before judging their alignment. Lucian - I’m seeing effort to sort other players out (including the Phraze/Sonata thing), which is good. He liked Kit’s vote in 283 and Soren’s vote in 340, but then opposed the 0x40 lynch saying the reasons for it were bad. Mishu - Their plan with Logic is very similar to what I’ve been doing this game with my vote. Something that pinged me as unusual behaviour is congratulating the mafia in 461. I’m interested to know their motive behind voting Kit during EoD? Aa-dono - As neutral as it gets. And oh geez, she’s pulling a TGT Ruu by not giving townreads. Calls Grape out on shading in 269, but I remember her saying that shading is tactic she likes to use to form reads in other games. Correct me if I’m wrong? Rosie - I get the sense that she’s uncertain of herself and her abilities, whatever alignment she may be. There’s a clear lack of paranoia in her townreads on Logic/Lucian in post 522. There was that one post of hers that I thought was townish (I point it out in 322), but it’s very weak in terms of telling me what alignment she is. She needs to give her thoughts on the game to stay off my scumlist. π½Scum and Scumleansπ½ Phraze - To add on to my 528: Phraze said she was fishing with her vote, but has not followed up with any findings, quickly switching her vote away to Lord Sithis. There is 438, but I don’t know what she’s getting at in thatpost. :\In 258, she said the aesthetics thing was to start conversation, which would be a town thing to do? But there was no follow up. Accuses Sonata of only posting commentary/light scumhunting when I don’t see much better out of Phraze. Her scumreads on Sithis/Lucian/Mishu are still unexplained and I’m not seeing any of her towntells yet. Bursama - 159 was a big post with a bunch of questions. The part of it that concerned me was saying that Lucian could have been power-wolfing Kit for the Gambler’s Fallacy comment, but I don’t understand where he got that conclusion from. He then retracts it and makes a show of reading Lucian as town which feels pretty unnatural compared to the progression of Grapefruit’s read on Lucian. This also clashes with what he says in 385 about over-explaining. |
Jan 1, 2017 11:58 AM
#613
Questions for D2: @Soren, now that you know Mishu’s “plan” having to do with Logic, what do you think of them? @Mishukax Could you explain why you didn’t like how Logic was nonchalant about your vote? Also, solving the problem of inactivity with inactivity? Knowing you, you'd be pressing everyone with a lot of prodding. I guess you did change your playstyle, uh. He did in Post 280 to get inactives involved.@Rosielovesanime I need more input from you in order to figure you out. What about Grapefruit’s post set off alarm bells? Could you tell me which people you find interesting and why? @Bursama Bursama said: I believe that Grape explained his reasons for voting clearly so I don’t get this question?@grapefruit21 Why did you vote Lucian in #124? What made up your mind that you wanted to vote for him at that point? Gun to the head, I'd say 0x40 is the mafia between those two. What do you think now that 0x40 has flipped town?@LucianRoy How is Sithis’s post 315 IIoA? I see him forming reads based on the information. @PentaFlare What do you think of my reads list? (Everyone is free to answer this too) @Kit Let’s chat, cat. :3c What’s your plans for today? @aa-dono Will you be able to catch up and give us your thoughts today? |
Jan 1, 2017 12:00 PM
#614
~ π π½ π π‘π ~ Mishukax has been killed. He was: ~ π π½ π π‘π ~ It is now Day 2. With 13 Alive, it’s 7 players to majority lynch. Deadline is 48 hours from this post, on January 3rd at 8:00 pm GMT. β Day 2 Timer β |
Jan 1, 2017 12:03 PM
#615
Jan 1, 2017 12:06 PM
#616
Yeah, I said it was IIoa, but then I was like nahh, it's not that. I tried color-coating it for future reference and it made more sense as I read it. Mishukax is a savvy kill. That must mean we have savvy scum. No wifom needed. |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:18 PM
#617
Gruffin said: @Rosielovesanime I need more input from you in order to figure you out. What about Grapefruit’s post set off alarm bells? Could you tell me which people you find interesting and why? I believe that it was the tone and how they followed up on it later. The more I kept reading their post the less strong that feeling got. I am not worried about them now.It was a gut feeling RVS. Right now I am watching what Kit and Soren do. While I am glad that they stuck up for me during D1, if they agree on a lynch again I wouldn't vote for that person. Maybe it just worked out that way on the first day, but I feel like have to potential of being a strong pair. If they are actually maifa that spells bad news. Nobody else is super suspicious to me right now besides those two. In general I am trying to see if there are any patterns that have started up in the way people vote and who died, but I am worried that won't bare much fruit till D3. Now hunting for common threads between 0x40 and Mishukax |
Jan 1, 2017 12:20 PM
#618
@Gruffin Looking at your Lucian read specifically (which is neutral), you mention that Lucian said the reasons fro the 0x40 train were bad. Do you think that Lucian approached this in a townlike manner or a scumlike manner? |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:25 PM
#619
Togs said: π Day 1 Final Vote Count π _0x40_ (6): Kit, Soren, rosielovesanime, Bursama, PentaFlare, Gruffin Mishukax (3): _0x40_, Grapefruit21, Lord_Sithis Lord_Sithis (2): Phraze, LucianRoy Gruffin (1): Sonata Kit (1): Mishukax LucianRoy (1): aa-dono rosielovesanime (1): logic340 For later reference. At first glance, nothing stands out here but I'll come back to it if I think of anything. |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:28 PM
#620
@aa-dono we need more participation from you today please. @Everyone on _0x40_'s I'd like you all to revisit EoD1 and see where Sithis, Lucian, Mishu, and I were all coming from while you all powered forward with a lynch we advised against. Who among your fellow passengers on the 40 xxpress is the scum? |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:30 PM
#621
LucianRoy said: Ah okay. After that, what do you think of Sithis?Yeah, I said it was IIoa, but then I was like nahh, it's not that. I tried color-coating it for future reference and it made more sense as I read it. rosielovesanime said: You wouldn't vote on someone if Kit and Soren agree on a lynch? I want to warn you that you could fall into bias that way by basing your decisions on others' decisions. I believe that it was the tone and how they followed up on it later. The more I kept reading their post the less strong that feeling got. I am not worried about them now.It was a gut feeling RVS. Right now I am watching what Kit and Soren do. While I am glad that they stuck up for me during D1, if they agree on a lynch again I wouldn't vote for that person. Maybe it just worked out that way on the first day, but I feel like have to potential of being a strong pair. If they are actually maifa that spells bad news. Nobody else is super suspicious to me right now besides those two. In general I am trying to see if there are any patterns that have started up in the way people vote and who died, but I am worried that won't bare much fruit till D3. Now hunting for common threads between 0x40 and Mishukax Could you walk me through your reads on them? Right now it sounds more like gut feeling. PentaFlare said: No idea right now, just noting the change. @LucianRoy Why the change of heart?@Gruffin Looking at your Lucian read specifically (which is neutral), you mention that Lucian said the reasons fro the 0x40 train were bad. Do you think that Lucian approached this in a townlike manner or a scumlike manner? |
Jan 1, 2017 12:31 PM
#622
logic340 said: @aa-dono we need more participation from you today please. @Everyone on _0x40_'s I'd like you all to revisit EoD1 and see where Sithis, Lucian, Mishu, and I were all coming from while you all powered forward with a lynch we advised against. Who among your fellow passengers on the 40 xxpress is the scum? Has your read on rosie changed or do you still see them as scum? |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:32 PM
#623
PentaFlare said: For later reference. At first glance, nothing stands out here but I'll come back to it if I think of anything. Since the top to people where the first two died, shouldn't we look more closely at those nine eight people? Its possible that the scum separated their vote, so that it was less obvious who is working together. |
Jan 1, 2017 12:32 PM
#624
Jan 1, 2017 12:33 PM
#625
I'm currently eating dinner so I'll be a somewhat passive logic for now. PentaFlare said: My read has changed I will share it with you shortly. Will you answer my question now? Please and thank you!logic340 said: @aa-dono we need more participation from you today please. @Everyone on _0x40_'s I'd like you all to revisit EoD1 and see where Sithis, Lucian, Mishu, and I were all coming from while you all powered forward with a lynch we advised against. Who among your fellow passengers on the 40 xxpress is the scum? Has your read on rosie changed or do you still see them as scum? |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:34 PM
#626
Gruffin said: PentaFlare said: No idea right now, just noting the change. @LucianRoy Why the change of heart?@Gruffin Looking at your Lucian read specifically (which is neutral), you mention that Lucian said the reasons fro the 0x40 train were bad. Do you think that Lucian approached this in a townlike manner or a scumlike manner? Well, there are two possible scenarios when someone advises against a lynch and it leads to a mislynch: They are town and townread the player being lynched They are scum and know the player being lynched will flip town This is a good distinction to look for. It gives some solid alignment clues. Did you notice any evidence one way or another? I can share what I have but I want to know if you noticed anything first. |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:36 PM
#627
Mishukax said: I don't know, man. Willing to vote Kit, Phraze, Gruffin or Grapefruit. logic also has some posts that make me doubt myself, but he's not scum with Gruf in my opinion. Can't wait to see how wrong I am, this game. OooOoohhhhhhh scary |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:37 PM
#628
logic340 said: I'm currently eating dinner so I'll be a somewhat passive logic for now. PentaFlare said: My read has changed I will share it with you shortly. Will you answer my question now? Please and thank you!logic340 said: @aa-dono we need more participation from you today please. @Everyone on _0x40_'s I'd like you all to revisit EoD1 and see where Sithis, Lucian, Mishu, and I were all coming from while you all powered forward with a lynch we advised against. Who among your fellow passengers on the 40 xxpress is the scum? Has your read on rosie changed or do you still see them as scum? I'm not certain yet. That's what I'm trying to figure out this day phase. I'm currently looking into a couple leads to get more information before I start pressuring suspects as before. |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:37 PM
#629
PentaFlare said: Gruffin said: PentaFlare said: @Gruffin Looking at your Lucian read specifically (which is neutral), you mention that Lucian said the reasons fro the 0x40 train were bad. Do you think that Lucian approached this in a townlike manner or a scumlike manner? Well, there are two possible scenarios when someone advises against a lynch and it leads to a mislynch: They are town and townread the player being lynched They are scum and know the player being lynched will flip town This is a good distinction to look for. It gives some solid alignment clues. Did you notice any evidence one way or another? I can share what I have but I want to know if you noticed anything first. Lmao miss me with that bullshit. I can see where this is going. |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:40 PM
#630
PentaFlare said: Fair enough lets work together towards our common goal.logic340 said: I'm currently eating dinner so I'll be a somewhat passive logic for now. PentaFlare said: logic340 said: @aa-dono we need more participation from you today please. @Everyone on _0x40_'s I'd like you all to revisit EoD1 and see where Sithis, Lucian, Mishu, and I were all coming from while you all powered forward with a lynch we advised against. Who among your fellow passengers on the 40 xxpress is the scum? Has your read on rosie changed or do you still see them as scum? I'm not certain yet. That's what I'm trying to figure out this day phase. I'm currently looking into a couple leads to get more information before I start pressuring suspects as before. |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:40 PM
#631
LucianRoy said: PentaFlare said: Gruffin said: PentaFlare said: No idea right now, just noting the change. @LucianRoy Why the change of heart?@Gruffin Looking at your Lucian read specifically (which is neutral), you mention that Lucian said the reasons fro the 0x40 train were bad. Do you think that Lucian approached this in a townlike manner or a scumlike manner? Well, there are two possible scenarios when someone advises against a lynch and it leads to a mislynch: They are town and townread the player being lynched They are scum and know the player being lynched will flip town This is a good distinction to look for. It gives some solid alignment clues. Did you notice any evidence one way or another? I can share what I have but I want to know if you noticed anything first. Lmao miss me with that bullshit. I can see where this is going. Maybe. Let me ask my question for now though. |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:41 PM
#632
PentaFlare said: Togs said: π Day 1 Final Vote Count π _0x40_ (6): Kit, Soren, rosielovesanime, Bursama, PentaFlare, Gruffin Mishukax (3): _0x40_, Grapefruit21, Lord_Sithis Lord_Sithis (2): Phraze, LucianRoy Gruffin (1): Sonata Kit (1): Mishukax LucianRoy (1): aa-dono rosielovesanime (1): logic340 For later reference. At first glance, nothing stands out here but I'll come back to it if I think of anything. I actually, this might be point in favour of Sithis being mafia. |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:42 PM
#633
PentaFlare said: I know that Lucian had town vibes on 0x40 early on which points to the first one, but then he said this:Well, there are two possible scenarios when someone advises against a lynch and it leads to a mislynch: They are town and townread the player being lynched They are scum and know the player being lynched will flip town This is a good distinction to look for. It gives some solid alignment clues. Did you notice any evidence one way or another? I can share what I have but I want to know if you noticed anything first. My page 2 good impressions of him aren't really there anymore. He's moved into more of my neutral pile because of his beating around the bush with all these "is this alignment indicative" nah man "THIS is alignment indicative" back and forths. Then he changed his mind around when train got more support, so ??? I haven't been able to follow his thoughts clearly on this.I like your vote. Good work good work. |
Jan 1, 2017 12:43 PM
#634
@Gruffin what else you got on Bursama? |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:44 PM
#635
Bursama said: Can you explain your reasoning please?PentaFlare said: Togs said: π Day 1 Final Vote Count π _0x40_ (6): Kit, Soren, rosielovesanime, Bursama, PentaFlare, Gruffin Mishukax (3): _0x40_, Grapefruit21, Lord_Sithis Lord_Sithis (2): Phraze, LucianRoy Gruffin (1): Sonata Kit (1): Mishukax LucianRoy (1): aa-dono rosielovesanime (1): logic340 For later reference. At first glance, nothing stands out here but I'll come back to it if I think of anything. I actually, this might be point in favour of Sithis being mafia. |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:44 PM
#636
Bursama said: Or you.I actually, this might be point in favour of Sithis being mafia. Vote: Bursama |
Jan 1, 2017 12:45 PM
#637
Not much. I could say that he sheeped the 0x40 vote, but ehh. |
Jan 1, 2017 12:47 PM
#638
@Gruffin This is what stood out to me Lucian leading up to 0x40 lynch: LucianRoy said: I think 40xx is used to a different meta. I smell two week phases, majority lynches with hammers, no Eod rush, and more time to catch up in the thread. Maybe I'm delusional. Here Lucian is showing that he just thinks 0x40 could be town used to a different meta. This seems like a more townlike reason to be against the lynch train because it focuses on 0x40's approach to the game and because Lucian doesn't seem to be really strong about his stance that 0x40 is town. He says he might be delusional. If scum were trying to gain town points by opposing a mislynch, they would commit to it and present a pretty firm townread. There is no scum motivation to making a post like this. |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:48 PM
#639
Gruffin said: rosielovesanime said: You wouldn't vote on someone if Kit and Soren agree on a lynch? I want to warn you that you could fall into bias that way by basing your decisions on others' decisions. I believe that it was the tone and how they followed up on it later. The more I kept reading their post the less strong that feeling got. I am not worried about them now.It was a gut feeling RVS. Right now I am watching what Kit and Soren do. While I am glad that they stuck up for me during D1, if they agree on a lynch again I wouldn't vote for that person. Maybe it just worked out that way on the first day, but I feel like have to potential of being a strong pair. If they are actually maifa that spells bad news. Nobody else is super suspicious to me right now besides those two. In general I am trying to see if there are any patterns that have started up in the way people vote and who died, but I am worried that won't bare much fruit till D3. Now hunting for common threads between 0x40 and Mishukax Could you walk me through your reads on them? Right now it sounds more like gut feeling. Yeah I was thinking of not saying anything and just waiting for the first couple of votes to go out, but silence as just as bad, from what I understand. Its not so much that I straight up wouldn't share a vote with them, more so that I would be really cautious of agree with them. Its not so much of a basis against them, so much as its a basis for patterns. Like I mentioned before. Honestly, no. There isn't any thing more about why I voted for Grapefruit beyond what I already said. I didn't have much to go on so I sent with what I had, my feeling as to what his tone was in his post. For this it's not a matter of won't but can't. |
Jan 1, 2017 12:49 PM
#640
If you want my actual take on EoD yesterday, then it goes something like this: the points coming at 40 started to sound really stale and reused. So, I flipped the script and started looking at reasons people were pushing him from the perspective of somebody experienced with the entire 2-week phases meta. The reasons people were pushing him looked less and less shiny when put in that light, so, I said something provocative and called them all shit. That got a lot of reactions. But of course, 40 wasn't there, not much was seen of him, and there was no chance to see any of his actual play, thus he was thrown into the ML pit b/c nobody would be stupid enough to defend a slot like that, but, I just happened to call it right. Mostly by dumb luck, maybe a bit of insight from playing on mafiascum, but mostly dumb luck. |
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Jan 1, 2017 12:50 PM
#641
@PentaFlare Thank you for showing me that, I'll take it into consideration. rosielovesanime said: Oh wait, sorry. I was talking about your reads on Soren and Kit, not Grapefruit.Yeah I was thinking of not saying anything and just waiting for the first couple of votes to go out, but silence as just as bad, from what I understand. Its not so much that I straight up wouldn't share a vote with them, more so that I would be really cautious of agree with them. Its not so much of a basis against them, so much as its a basis for patterns. Like I mentioned before. Honestly, no. There isn't any thing more about why I voted for Grapefruit beyond what I already said. I didn't have much to go on so I sent with what I had, my feeling as to what his tone was in his post. For this it's not a matter of won't but can't. |
Jan 1, 2017 12:54 PM
#642
Logic put work in last night. I will slowly share the things that I have worked on. I don't care much to answer questions right now as a lot of mine generally go unanswered. |
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Jan 1, 2017 1:00 PM
#643
logic340 said: Bursama said: Can you explain your reasoning please?PentaFlare said: Togs said: π Day 1 Final Vote Count π _0x40_ (6): Kit, Soren, rosielovesanime, Bursama, PentaFlare, Gruffin Mishukax (3): _0x40_, Grapefruit21, Lord_Sithis Lord_Sithis (2): Phraze, LucianRoy Gruffin (1): Sonata Kit (1): Mishukax LucianRoy (1): aa-dono rosielovesanime (1): logic340 For later reference. At first glance, nothing stands out here but I'll come back to it if I think of anything. I actually, this might be point in favour of Sithis being mafia. Mishu had 2nd most votes at the end of D1 and was the competing wagon for D1. If everyone on that wagon was town (Grape and Sithis), why would mafia NK Mishu? Mafia could've tried to push that wagon D2 and gain a mislynch. A good explanation would be that mafia tried to push that wagon, but felt that it really didn't get that much support and decided to NK Mishu since they probably though they couldn't manage to lynch him in the upcoming days. (This is a also a point in favour of Grape being mafia) There was also something else in my mind a moment ago, but I forgot it. >_> |
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Jan 1, 2017 1:02 PM
#644
@PentaFlare here is what you asked for. rosielovesanime: #81 - Make my list of people I have never played with before #119 - Rosie is neutral for me no posts yet #211 - First post from rosie. Votes Grapefruit no reason given #212 - I ask if they have caught up or if #211 was an RVS vote #214 - Kit "Yay Rosie :3" asks if the vote is RVS and why Grapefruit #217 - Answers me and Kit. It's pretty much RVS they don't like something Grapefruit said early on and haven't shaken the feeling now that they are on page 5. "I hope you guys don't mind me being pretty bad, this is my first game" #218 - Lucian asks "what did Grapfruit say?" #221 - Lucian says "don't worry it's my first game too" #227 - rosie responds "it was their first post?" (in reference to Grapefruit) says it's hard to read tone, especially in early posts, but something set off alarms. #229 - Kit says it was RVS and vote has been moved see noting wrong #230 - rosie says that is what they read but no one else stuck out to them #249 - rosie Not Enough Information on my read list #252 - I ask for clarification if it was the very first post or first few posts from Grapefruit. #253 - Inactive player list. I don't understand rosie's vote on Grapefruit #254 - Grapefruit asks if rosie has caught up and if their opinions has changed #280 - I tell rosie their 4 posts aren't enough for me to go on. Ask their opinion on my train and Gruffin's case against me #281 - Sonata is scumreading rosie no real reason given #300 - Response to my post #280. Gives me and Gruffin town nod, scum nod to 40 #301 - My response to #300 I talk about griffin #322 - Gruffin says that newbie town easily faked but rosie sounds like they are trying to figure out how to analyze the game #339 - Lord_Sithis wants to know why Sonata's vote isn't on rosie if they scum read her #355 - Lord_Sithis asks about Sonata not voting rosie #369 - Rosie unvotes and says she wasn't to do that before voting again #372 - Sithis pings Sonata again about the voting rosie #377 - Sithis still going on about Sonata not voting for rosie #378 - Mishu feels Gruffin read is stronger than rosie, not speaking for Sonata #404 - Gruffin response to #369 asks rosie "waiting for what?" #413 - Response to #404 "Till I am able to write a good post and really look over the posts well again. I feel worried about repeating what others have said and getting name mixed up." #432 - Vote on 40, no new reasoning, says they didn't like 40's defense #435 - Sonata seems like they are willing to give rosie a pass for now since Gruffin is their strongest scum read #441 - Bursama says no scum team between 40 and rosie #447 - I question rosie about town read on me and Lucian. I also question their vote on 40 for being hypocritical #472 - I vote rosielovesanime in an attempt to get answers to my questions and feeling like they are potentially scum #476 - I ask Lucian how he feels about rosie #483 - Gruffin asks me why rosie is a better lynch than 40 #458 - Lucian response to #476 he thinks they need to be cop checked and that the 40 lynch may be too good to pass up #490 - I refer Gruffin to #447 for reasons to vote rosie #491 - Sithis rosie sheeping comment #493 - Gruffin tries to discredit my comparison by saying penta was town. Then says that rosie has the same behavior as 40. Asks why 40 gets a pass but not rosie #495 - Soren says that Sithis is casting shade on rosie with the sheeping comment #497 - Mishu seems to question Sithis questioning of rosie vote #502 - Me to Gruffin about rosie continue laying out why rosie is better than 40. Reference #472 #510 - Kit says at least rosie gave reads #516 - Gruffin says the rosie is contributing more than 40 and wants explanation from rosie D2 instead of right now #519 - Sithis says lynch mishu or rosie #520 - Rosie on my potential scum list #522 - Rosie responds to #447 now that I ask. Me and Lucian can't be anything less than neutral, we're better for the game even if we are scum, 40 and Grapefruit (two people I am not lynching D1), surprised I waited until #472 to vote for her, #523 - Kit warns rosie of talkative scum #530 - Still trying to recruit others to rosie backing off protecting _0x40_ incase he flipped scum #533 - Rosie response to Gruffin #516 "sorry I'll try harder", doesn't see a competing train due to 40 being 4 votes up, and doesn't feel they have anything to add that hasn't already been said. Ironically they agree with Sonata on D1 lynch. #535 - Kit tells rosie their opinion still matters even if it isn't anything new #537 - I explain why rosie and _0x40_ are not the same #539 - Gruffin mistakes me saying that rosie is a better lynch than 40 for rosie being a better lynch than her #540 - Kit answers my post #537 acknowledges that 40's play helped out more but still insists that reads from rosie are worth more. Feel rosie has tried to help more than 40 #543 - Mishu asks Sithis why only rosie stands out and not the others on the train. Says he is looking for reasons for rosie rather than finding them #549 - Sithis is not satisfied for rosie's reasons given for voting 40 #554 - Lucian says rosie gave reasons didn't like 40's defenst #561 - Sithis quotes rosie's reason and says it wasn't good enoug #565 - I ask Bursama to claify a statement about rosie and 40 scum #567 - Rosie responds to my post #537 she basically calls him scum for exhibiting behavior exhibited by many other players (Lucian and herself to name a few) #568 - Lucian says Sithis is posturing to use rosie of association upon 40's flip #569 - I explain to rosie how I see the arguments against 40 as bad town not mafia #572 - Sithis still explain why he doesn't like rosie's vote My Thoughts on specific posts #211 - The vote on Grapefruit seems pretty bogus they claim RVS but state that they are caught up (Vote happens on page 5 where they say they have read up to). Later the reason revealed it what Grapefruit said in their first post (joke about kit being a nice guy) hasn't sat well with them and they haven't shaken the feeling. #217 - Self doubt, I can say I am not really liking that but it is not alignment indicative. #300 - In this post they say that they see why people don't trust me but don't really explain why that is. They go on to say they don't think I am scum but again no reasons to support that statement. They can see why people don't trust me but I am not scum??? this is kind of a contradiction. Gruffin town at least says why they feel that way, no reason for the read on though. The comment to Sonata about not being able to act scum if they tried strikes me as odd since you don't have to act scum if you are scum. In the end I don't really think her answer really answers what I asked. #369 -The unvote is weird to me considering they had already postured to have their lynch on 40. #413 - I don't know if I remember this post at the time of their vote on _0x40_ or not but in hindsight this doesn't look good to me at all. #432 - Here is their vote for 40 it is 19 post later with nothing new to add themselves in between. (This is in reference to #413) I don't feel they did what they said they would try to do before placing that vote. Sithis calls it a sheep later on and I tend to agree with that sentiment. They didn't add their own thought or even rehash what others had said just vote 40 for weak defense against kit and kept it pushing. I spoke out against this vote, Sithis calls it a sheep, and Bursama who voted 40 calls it awkward. #516 - This is a pretty hard defense of rosie by Gruffin imo. Then they contradict themselves by giving rosie a pass until D2 while saying 40 needed to contribute more. I have to think about this right here. Scum team protecting each other?? Gruffin looks pretty bad for this imo. #522 - No reason or examples for the town or scum reads. Even backs off the town read saying neutral better if scum (??). We are not better for the game if scum we should be killed. #567 - More weak reasoning to lynch 40 All in all there is a lot of defense here for rosie who was never really in danger of being lynched today. I was the only on pushing that and my vote was there. I wish that Sonata and Sithis would have moved there with me as it would probably make me feel better about both of them. Basically I feel their reasons for voting 40 was a contradiction due to their own behavior being very similar, unlike Kit and Gruffin I don't feel that rosie's reads and vote added that as much as the interaction that 40 was a part of. I feel like rosie did things to appease Kit and Gruffin's idea of what scum hunting is. Other than not liking 40's defense against Kit she basically refused to give her own opinion on the situation. I don't feel she answered my questions about mine, Gruffin, Lucina, Grapefruit, and 40's alignments in a satisfactory manner and other than those 4 I really cannot say how she feel about the other 10 reaming players. I had plenty of time to read this over and I can honestly say my scumread on Rosie feels forced. When I look at what I have written in regards to rosie I can see a lost townie not knowing how to make there voice heard. Not going to fully town read them but neutral is fine. This is not indicative of rosie's alignment so much but I find it interesting that while 40 is getting lynched for not giving reads, rosie is getting a pass for refusing to give reasons for the reads she has give. This makes Kit and Gruffin look more scummy to me than rosie. |
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Jan 1, 2017 1:03 PM
#645
Bursama said: Noooo this is so WIFOM-y. Mafia could have also killed Mishu to incriminate their train, we just don't know.Mishu had 2nd most votes at the end of D1 and was the competing wagon for D1. If everyone on that wagon was town (Grape and Sithis), why would mafia NK Mishu? Mafia could've tried to push that wagon D2 and gain a mislynch. A good explanation would be that mafia tried to push that wagon, but felt that it really didn't get that much support and decided to NK Mishu since they probably though they couldn't manage to lynch him in the upcoming days. (This is a also a point in favour of Grape being mafia) There was also something else in my mind a moment ago, but I forgot it. >_> |
Jan 1, 2017 1:05 PM
#646
Bursama said: I've never been mafia I cannot tell you why someone gets NK vs. another I have learned that speculating scum night activities proves to be pretty fruitless. I thought you were saying based on VCA Sithis looked bad there. What about the train you attached yourself to? How many scum were riding with you?logic340 said: Bursama said: PentaFlare said: Togs said: π Day 1 Final Vote Count π _0x40_ (6): Kit, Soren, rosielovesanime, Bursama, PentaFlare, Gruffin Mishukax (3): _0x40_, Grapefruit21, Lord_Sithis Lord_Sithis (2): Phraze, LucianRoy Gruffin (1): Sonata Kit (1): Mishukax LucianRoy (1): aa-dono rosielovesanime (1): logic340 For later reference. At first glance, nothing stands out here but I'll come back to it if I think of anything. I actually, this might be point in favour of Sithis being mafia. Mishu had 2nd most votes at the end of D1 and was the competing wagon for D1. If everyone on that wagon was town (Grape and Sithis), why would mafia NK Mishu? Mafia could've tried to push that wagon D2 and gain a mislynch. A good explanation would be that mafia tried to push that wagon, but felt that it really didn't get that much support and decided to NK Mishu since they probably though they couldn't manage to lynch him in the upcoming days. (This is a also a point in favour of Grape being mafia) There was also something else in my mind a moment ago, but I forgot it. >_> |
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Jan 1, 2017 1:07 PM
#647
Sorry, I was not here. I'm a beta tester for a game, and I was busy with that. But I'm going to catch up right now. |
Jan 1, 2017 1:22 PM
#649
Gruffin said: Oh wait, sorry. I was talking about your reads on Soren and Kit, not Grapefruit. Oh that makes way more sense. Like I said it that I would be concerned about the pattern that could form vs an actual read on either of them. That why I got to go back and really dig through the arguments again both Mish and 0x40 to see if there is any connection. Probably just as bad a gut feeling, but still I feel like this is my best option right now. Kit's the only one I say I have an actual read on. I trust him, which makes me question him. |
Jan 1, 2017 1:26 PM
#650
rosielovesanime said: Gruffin said: Oh wait, sorry. I was talking about your reads on Soren and Kit, not Grapefruit. Oh that makes way more sense. Like I said it that I would be concerned about the pattern that could form vs an actual read on either of them. That why I got to go back and really dig through the arguments again both Mish and 0x40 to see if there is any connection. Probably just as bad a gut feeling, but still I feel like this is my best option right now. Kit's the only one I say I have an actual read on. I trust him, which makes me question him. When you say you are trusting Kit but are questioning them, I'm not clear on what you mean by questioning. Are you questioning things they have done, asking them questions about the game right now as a form of collaboration, or something else? |
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