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Jun 7, 2016 10:15 AM
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Holy shit, I finally managed to kill a 3 BP Ibaraki. 2 Wavers+Gil is no joke.

Jun 7, 2016 2:18 PM

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KaiserNazrin said:
Not even 1mil. Way too boring for mats I don't even need.

Tickets has been my motivation for bothering with DPs. So far, you can get ~7 tickets just by doing the event missions.

SherouOfJustice said:
Holy shit, I finally managed to kill a 3 BP Ibaraki. 2 Wavers+Gil is no joke.

Niiiice. Congrats and welcome to the cool 3BP kids club now :p
Jun 8, 2016 5:37 AM

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My educated guess - I believe this would cost roughly $10,000 US Dollar to max all NP alone. Optimistically speaking with consistent good luck.
Horrible luck would easily be $20,000+.

I can't fathom the amount of time invested to farm the materials to max the skills.



Source: https://twitter.com/Sylpha007/status/740511150375239680
Jun 8, 2016 5:44 AM

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Well.

Congratulations and thanks to this guy.
Thanks to (people like) him that we can play the game for free without any worries.
Jun 8, 2016 5:57 AM

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They would definitely ruin PVP.

Jun 8, 2016 6:36 AM

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"Thank god" there is no PvP then.

PvP in FGO is pretty much impossible =/
Unless they create a new format for battles.
Jun 8, 2016 6:50 AM

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There can be no functional PvP in a pay to win game anyway.
Jun 8, 2016 8:25 AM

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Oh hey, he added more. Behold, the tremendous power of a Japanese Grand Whale!




Bonssons said:

Thanks to (people like) him that we can play the game for free without any worries.


@ShinsoPriest Thanks for introducing me to him! Kinda nice looking up to another whale (since I am not insane enough to suicide my savings). It is entertaining to watch someone else follow the expensive dream.
GenkiiJun 8, 2016 8:29 AM
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Which one of you guys did this?


https://www.google.com.eg/search?q=rider+of+blck+wiki&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=gDpYV4jJJuLt8wemx4OgCw&gws_rd=cr#q=rider+of+black+wiki

Genkii said:
Oh hey, he added more. Behold, the tremendous power of a Japanese Grand Whale!

I'd say he has more money and time than sense, but that clearly would be an understatement
Jun 8, 2016 8:39 AM

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Jun 8, 2016 9:52 AM

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Damn Riders. Now Ibaraki just got really difficult with Waver + Tamamo =/
Jun 8, 2016 10:42 AM

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FBI Alerted Saké Protected!


Should i put out my almost lvl 90 Shuten for you guys instead of Shiki? She's seems to be one of the better suited Assassins for the event now.

She's:
+ An Assassin.
+ Her kit allows her to fit well in both a Quick or an Arts team.
+ Her first skill is a mini Waver NP.
+ Her Second skill is an attack buff + own NP buff.
+ Has the Dragon trait, which means she gets to deal even more damage with J. Alter's buff.
+ High HP and ATK and can survive moderately well thanks to Battle continuation.
+ Her NP should debuff Ibaraki and lessen her onslaught a lot.
+ The hands clear their debuffs now, which means if you keep debuffing them with Shuten, they'll keep wasting their turns to clear them.

Potential Cons:
- Her first skill only has 60% chance (2/3 of the enemies will propably be affected).
- The huge focus on debuffs makes her an average hitter for a 5*.
astroprogsJun 8, 2016 1:04 PM
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You should put her instead of shiki.

But because she is a loli demon.

The reasons you stated were pretty valid, but to me what really makes her special is her looks.

Oh yeah, and voice too.
Jun 8, 2016 11:33 AM

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Bonssons said:
Damn Riders. Now Ibaraki just got really difficult with Waver + Tamamo =/

Yeah the hands are a pain, so you should focus on killing them if your main damage dealer is still charging NP so you won't have to deal with their NP. Should be quick if you have Jack.
ShinsoPriestJun 8, 2016 11:53 AM
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I tried Shuten and she's indeed very useful. The hands keep removing the debuffs and i keep havng free turns.
Jun 8, 2016 12:30 PM

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What does the Tamamo event CE do?
The sun is a deadly laser
Jun 8, 2016 1:04 PM

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What does the Tamamo event CE do?

+20% NP gain and 3 stars per turn + Gives +3 drops for every drop slot.
astroprogsJun 8, 2016 1:10 PM
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astroprogs said:
mira-pyon said:
What does the Tamamo event CE do?

+20% NP gain and 3 stars per turn + Gives +3 drops for every drop slot.


Oh cool, thx.
The sun is a deadly laser
Jun 8, 2016 4:17 PM

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ShinsoPriest said:
Bonssons said:
Damn Riders. Now Ibaraki just got really difficult with Waver + Tamamo =/

Yeah the hands are a pain, so you should focus on killing them if your main damage dealer is still charging NP so you won't have to deal with their NP. Should be quick if you have Jack.


No jack =/
I think this time is better for me to do the BP2 as much as I can (to get all quests clear) and then wait for the hands to change class xD
Jun 10, 2016 4:59 AM

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Gender bend Sanzo.



Li Shuwen time is now.

Jun 10, 2016 12:29 PM

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Sun Wukong when?
MightyM16Jun 10, 2016 2:29 PM
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They're trying so hard to get our money lol. Gotta gender bend everyone. I'm satisfied with Waver and Helena so I'm going to hold onto my tixs and quartz longer. (she's a Caster right?)
Jun 11, 2016 9:46 AM

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TM/DW: "You get a gender bend. You get a gender bend. You get a gender bend. EVERYBODY GETS A GENDER BEND!".

Also,
>_>
<_<

Li Shuwen is overrated.
Jun 11, 2016 9:50 AM

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I have no issues with genderbenting characters as long as it isnt everyone.
Jun 11, 2016 10:10 AM

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ssjokg said:
I have no issues with genderbenting characters as long as it isnt everyone.

Ditto. As long as there are no more Saberfaces, i'm alright with almost anything.
Jun 11, 2016 10:26 AM

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Look at Saber. King Arthur's legend became more interesting like this. Lancelot's relationship with the Queen and Saber for example.

The origin of loliJack is creepy as hell.


Now, I dont know much about Altera or others like Nobu or Okita but if done right a gender bent is more fun than the "real" deal.

I mean, I cant imagine Iskandar and Gil arguing with ProtoSaber. Or Gil proposing to him in both FZ and FSN.He is pansexual,most likely,but I dont think that he and Zero Rider would care much if Saber didnt look like a 14 year old girl.
Then we have Kiritsugu's issues with her.
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ssjokg said:
Look at Saber. King Arthur's legend became more interesting like this. Lancelot's relationship with the Queen and Saber for example.

The origin of loliJack is creepy as hell.


Now, I dont know much about Altera or others like Nobu or Okita but if done right a gender bent is more fun than the "real" deal.

I mean, I cant imagine Iskandar and Gil arguing with ProtoSaber. Or Gil proposing to her in both FZ and FSN.He is pansexual,most likely,but I dont think that he and Zero Rider would care much if Saber didnt look like a 14 year old.
Then we have Kiritsugu's issues with her.

I agree wholeheartedly.
Drake gets a pass due to her myth (switching places with Queen Elizabeth) and because her character was wonderfully written in Extra. Nero is so unbelievably fun, it's actually a plus for her. Frankenstein is pretty inspired IMO and her backstory is pretty gut-wrenching. Nobu and Okita get a pass because Koha Ace (and because they're awesome). Altera will have her actual backstory in Extella, so i'll be postponing my judgment until then. Sanzang was gender bent in Japanese media way before Fate was even a thing.

So, really, most of the gender bent historical figures were arguably improved upon with these changes.

I think the problem with the new gender bends in F/GO is that with the sheer number of them and how fast they're releasing them, many are bound to fall through the cracks in terms of quality. See Ushiwakamaru, for example.

Shuten is a curious example, though, since her design can be both argued for and against. Her myth can support the change, but the change is just a one half of her myth. The myth in her case is almost an excuse to get a half naked drunken loli in there somehow.
Jun 11, 2016 11:37 AM

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Me: So pretty much if it's given a vagoo, tits and a good twist on their story, anyone is significantly better than their historical origin?

DW: Yes that is our goal, to enrich history further and to add more creative flexibility. It certainly has nothing to do with the majority of our demography being men with their extreme adoration for lovely beautiful (and sometimes half naked) maidens.

Me: Oh okay... wait what was that?

DW: FUCK YOU GIMME MONEY.
Jun 11, 2016 12:14 PM

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The problem is that most if not all new FGO Servants, including new gender bents, get no background except their info page and a few lines per Chapter.
Except Deon, who is both gender due to skill(and is actually used in game)everyone else should have some story to explain something.

Obviously they dont make the gender bents for the quality of the story but for more waifus aka money, but Arturia was the original "gender bend for money and sales" and we know how that turned out for her character. Even if you disagree with her views(raises hand) you cant deny she is a great character.the romance with Shirou is still shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit tho.
Jun 11, 2016 8:10 PM

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a vagoo


I'm dead.




Jun 12, 2016 7:23 AM

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Free 10 quartz. Thanks everyone for clearing the tedious event.

Jun 12, 2016 3:14 PM

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Depressing.
Jun 14, 2016 2:26 AM

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Dunno if someone posted this but:

http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/vt6pjp/

event soon

Jun 14, 2016 4:09 AM

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Wooooo, Gacha Renewal and new CEs. Bout time, it feels so strange to me that I have not spent any money or done any rolls in over a month. *sitting on 46 tickets*
Jun 15, 2016 2:01 AM

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Alright guys, I'm counting on your Sanzo impression and experience. Need to know if she brings a certain play-style that'll be good to invest in. Single target NP is nice and all but I have J.Alter and my Zerker-chans to fill that role in already with great results.

J.Alter alone carried me every boss battles so far since her inclusion.
Jun 15, 2016 2:30 AM

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11 tickets, only got scraps and 1 event CE, lol fuck this game.

Still got 60 quartz, I'll use it during my lucky hour.

Jun 15, 2016 6:17 AM

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Sun Wukong?


Sanzo seems to be a 5* Medea with a crazy awesome looking Buster NP.

On one hand, Casters have very little good heavy hitters. On the other hand, i'll propably not be able to get another 40 quartz before the summer event.

Genkii said:
Alright guys, I'm counting on your Sanzo impression and experience. Need to know if she brings a certain play-style that'll be good to invest in. Single target NP is nice and all but I have J.Alter and my Zerker-chans to fill that role in already with great results.

J.Alter alone carried me every boss battles so far since her inclusion.

Sanzo would be better against Assassins + NP spam for days.
astroprogsJun 15, 2016 6:22 AM
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wha...!?


Guys, between getting J. Alter, Shuten and now Li Shuwen and Sanzo, i feel that i've siphoned every bit of luck i had for the rest of my life. I... I could die soon.
Jun 15, 2016 6:39 AM

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Congrats,man. Don't let me see you on the street.

Jun 15, 2016 6:54 AM

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KaiserNazrin said:
Congrats,man. Don't let me see you on the street.

So that's how i die...

Thanks, man :D
Jun 15, 2016 7:15 AM

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@astroprogs

Firstly, congrats! I've never known anyone personally to score a good win like that and it's well deserved.

Secondly, I want factual experience that Sanzang brings something new and valuable to the table aside from a flashy single target NP, cool animation and being a hard hitting Caster to bring against Assassins. Let me make this clearer, I intend to get lvl 5 NP. I may have the luxury of getting every single Servants with lvl 1 np but my OCD will be the end of me with that weak ass lvl 1 np. I will go all the way.

Thirdly, my interest is in Caster Scathach and I'll be very patience for tight tits sensei. But I am willing to compromise for Sanzang if she's REAAALLY good.

Lastly, Sanzang will be added permanently to the gacha and I plan to splurge hard for the swimsuit event so I rather spend as little as possible. (─‿‿─)

Again, congrats on that godly roll!
GenkiiJun 15, 2016 7:20 AM
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@astroprogs

Firstly, congrats! I've never known anyone personally to score a good win like that and it's well deserved.

Secondly, I want factual experience that Sanzang brings something new and valuable to the table aside from a flashy single target NP, cool animation and being a hard hitting Caster to bring against Assassins. Let me make this clearer, I intend to get lvl 5 NP. I may have the luxury of getting every single Servants with lvl 1 np but my OCD will be the end of me with that weak ass lvl 1 np. I will go all the way.

Thirdly, my interest is in Caster Scathach and I'll be very patience for tight tits sensei. But I am willing to compromise for Sanzang if she's REAAALLY good.

Lastly, Sanzang will be added permanently to the gacha and I plan to splurge hard for the swimsuit event so I rather spend as little as possible. (─‿‿─)

Again, congrats on that godly roll!

It depends on what you call "new and valuable", really.

The thing about Sanzo is that her very boring set is essential. A Servant like Sanzo should've been released ages ago and that's the dilemma we're in right now.
She lacks the excitement of new playing styles (Okita/Jack), new type of OP (Drake) or both (J. Alter), but she's... well, a heavy hitter Caster. That's her thing. To me, she's invaluable just because of that.
There's no Servant in the game ATM that can fill the role she fills, boring as that is.

About her performance, looks like my initial evaluation was apt. She's a 5* Medea with a Buster NP and better survivability. She has a bit more going for her, so here's the rundown:
1) Medea can fire her NP every other turn. Imagine that kind of NP persistence for a 5*. You could even call her OP just because of that, but i digress.
2) She has Dodge 0.9, which becomes Dodge 1.0 against Assassins.
3) Unlike Okita and Jack, she'll help the entire party fill their NP bars. In a party with Waver and Medea Lily/Iri, i'd recommend her over J. Alter anyday.

If you think you'll be alright without her, then i'd say skip this one. You'll have the chance to get her again, even if her rate up will be shared with the other Camelot Servants.

I hope we see Caster Scatty too and, you're right, chances are she'll propably be a better Sanzo. Then again, who knows. Scatty wasn't exceptional as a Lancer due to her below average star and NP regen.
Not that gameplay would factor in the decision of getting her anyway :p

Finally, thanks, Gen :) That roll was too good, i'm actually kinda afraid i'll never get any good 5*s ever again in this game haha.
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And I am just sitting here crying over the 3 10rolls I wasted i the previous event.

EDIt:The best I could manage with my 10 quartz right after posting this was Rama. NOt what I had in mnd.But it was a good draw.Second rollgave me Gae Bolg's Sea Monster.
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I wasted 80 quartz and got no gold servants at all. Only the three event CEs and some useless 4* CEs. I feel like I lost my luck after J.Alter because since then I've only gotten CEs, Rama and Tamamo Cat.
Jun 15, 2016 9:38 AM

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Everyone talks about using their quartz to roll, meanwhile I'm just saving up all of mine waiting for J. Alter...




Jun 15, 2016 9:41 AM
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FalK-ON said:
Everyone talks about using their quartz to roll, meanwhile I'm just saving up all of mine waiting for J. Alter...

You're gonna wait for a loooong time, unless they do a kick ass 1 year anniversary gacha and add all the limited Servants.

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I was saving for Sakura......keks

Ishtar and Parvati when?
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astroprogs said:
FalK-ON said:
Everyone talks about using their quartz to roll, meanwhile I'm just saving up all of mine waiting for J. Alter...

You're gonna wait for a loooong time, unless they do a kick ass 1 year anniversary gacha and add all the limited Servants.


That's what I'm hoping for, but since this is DW, they probably won't.
But I'll still wait. As long as it takes......




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