Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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Jun 1, 2016 4:21 PM
#301
Fappa said: ColdBreeze said: I ... don't want to wait any longer.. That ending is probably a love-hate moment lol I believe the majority of people will have a love-hate-relationship with the ending. They hate it because of what happens, not in a "that's bullshit" kind of way but in a "the feels" kind of way. They will also love it because the ending leaves you with such a certain feeling that is incredible. You feel like the arc has been resolved and we came to a conclusion but at the same time you don't want to accept that this is the conclusion because of your emotions and it feels like someone punched you in the face and...You. Crave. For. More. I'm sick of these endings where our cast stands on top of a hill, staring at the sunset, hair waving in the wind and we get a subtle hint as "but we knew that was only the start of our adventure". This is so unsatisfying. Re:Zero on the other side makes it storm like hell and dark as the night and kicks this entire cast in the face. I see a lot of people already being so emotionally attached to the characters, especially Subaru. The ending will just destroy them. That's exactly how I feel about the ending. I hated it not because it was bullshit, but it was because the character I loved the most is "dead." The feels struck like lightning when Emilia asked 「――レムって、誰のこと?」 Like, fuck.... it hurts, it hurts.... especially since Rem is very lovable... 「――だって、スバルくんはレムの英雄なんです」 Subaru is Rem's hero, and Rem would stay with him no matter what happened. She really is the best character. Why can't he just "kill off" Emilia, why are you doing this to Rem ;_; Rem did nothing wrong author... lots of sufferings for her, a heartbreak, sad background, deaths, tortures, forgotten by the world, why... why... why do this to Rem. At least there's that "what if" chapter... The only positive thing I can take from that ending is that now Subaru is going to mainly fight for Rem's sake. @Sometimes791 I hate you with pleasure lol. |
Jun 1, 2016 4:25 PM
#302
bobzanny said: "Arc 2 is like having a bad day." Lol nothing is every easy for Subaru. God I can't wait just to see a glimpse of Arc 3 and all of its glory. And I really can't wait to see the turn of events that create the distrust between Subaru and Emilia and what causes Rem to go with Subaru plus all the reactions. Hell yes, all in all so much happens there, it's crazy. bobzanny said: Once thing I've noticed upon rewatching this show, is that there's a lot of subtle foreshadowing that pays off in big ways. Like it feels every scene is contextually important. White Fox is truly outdoing themselves this year. Yes! I noticed that very early and was really surprised. It already starts with the OP & ED. It shows you a lot of different things that make you wonder but the further you get into the story, the more sense all these things make sense. Oh and there is major foreshadowing in the OP for arc 3. I also love how in the first PV you can see some of the characters appearing in arc 3 for a short moment. In the episodes themselves there is a lot of foreshadowing yes and it really takes a talented director to pull that off. He hasn't done much but at least once in your career as a director a story comes across where it just makes "click" and you are able to fully implement your creative choices. The majority of foreshadowing is places within the narrative but the fact that they were able to visualize them in such a subtle way is crazy. Hell I've already spotted foreshadowing for stuff that still has to happen in the rest of arc 2 and arc 3. |
Jun 1, 2016 4:34 PM
#303
DarklordVor said: That's exactly how I feel about the ending. I hated it not because it was bullshit, but it was because the character I loved the most is "dead." The feels struck like lightning when Emilia asked 「――レムって、誰のこと?」 Like, fuck.... it hurts, it hurts.... especially since Rem is very lovable... 「――だって、スバルくんはレムの英雄なんです」 Subaru is Rem's hero, and Rem would stay with him no matter what happened. She really is the best character. Why can't he just "kill off" Emilia, why are you doing this to Rem ;_; Rem did nothing wrong author... lots of sufferings for her, a heartbreak, sad background, deaths, tortures, forgotten by the world, why... why... why do this to Rem. At least there's that "what if" chapter... The only positive thing I can take from that ending is that now Subaru is going to mainly fight for Rem's sake. @Sometimes791 I hate you with pleasure lol. Yeah I feel you! I didn't have the same emotional connection with her as you but hey I can acknowledge when a person is 100% loyal and stays by your side even if the world is against you. There is nothing more genuine than that. Hell I'm not ashamed to say that I had one or two tears in my eyes when I read that ending scene followed by a jaw dropping after reaction that ended up in a little depression that lasted the rest of the night. Yes these exact words... You know what makes it even worse? It's that this already happened when Otto and Subaru get chased by the Whale and Otto asks this but hearing this from Emilia. And you know what makes it even more worse? You scream at Subaru to kill himself right now, reset this, try again and succeed with Rem alive. He even does that but then you and him realize at the same that it doesn't do anything, she's lost. While you're just completely in denial Subaru takes that to a whole new level and commits suicide over and over and over, at least that's how I read it. Anyway what I love about that is how this changes Subaru completely. After that he seems like a lighter version of Guts to me, well sometimes. Damn this makes me sad again just by talking about it |
Jun 1, 2016 5:38 PM
#304
Fappa said: DarklordVor said: That's exactly how I feel about the ending. I hated it not because it was bullshit, but it was because the character I loved the most is "dead." The feels struck like lightning when Emilia asked 「――レムって、誰のこと?」 Like, fuck.... it hurts, it hurts.... especially since Rem is very lovable... 「――だって、スバルくんはレムの英雄なんです」 Subaru is Rem's hero, and Rem would stay with him no matter what happened. She really is the best character. Why can't he just "kill off" Emilia, why are you doing this to Rem ;_; Rem did nothing wrong author... lots of sufferings for her, a heartbreak, sad background, deaths, tortures, forgotten by the world, why... why... why do this to Rem. At least there's that "what if" chapter... The only positive thing I can take from that ending is that now Subaru is going to mainly fight for Rem's sake. @Sometimes791 I hate you with pleasure lol. Yeah I feel you! I didn't have the same emotional connection with her as you but hey I can acknowledge when a person is 100% loyal and stays by your side even if the world is against you. There is nothing more genuine than that. Hell I'm not ashamed to say that I had one or two tears in my eyes when I read that ending scene followed by a jaw dropping after reaction that ended up in a little depression that lasted the rest of the night. Yes these exact words... You know what makes it even worse? It's that this already happened when Otto and Subaru get chased by the Whale and Otto asks this but hearing this from Emilia. And you know what makes it even more worse? You scream at Subaru to kill himself right now, reset this, try again and succeed with Rem alive. He even does that but then you and him realize at the same that it doesn't do anything, she's lost. While you're just completely in denial Subaru takes that to a whole new level and commits suicide over and over and over, at least that's how I read it. Anyway what I love about that is how this changes Subaru completely. After that he seems like a lighter version of Guts to me, well sometimes. Damn this makes me sad again just by talking about it I'm probably too emotional about it because Rem is one of my waifu type lol. The depression that the author did is really dark, and we as the readers are something like a masochist for reading through all of these tortures. The only moment where I want Subaru to die is when Rem dies. Why even live if Rem dies ;_; she's the only person who give him the meaning of life and love, yet he shoved her away for Emilia. Although I agree, that the change that Subaru took is really different because now he realized he failed to save someone that he usually can. This is a very depressing talk... it's always gloomy around Re:Zero. |
Jun 1, 2016 5:44 PM
#305
Fappa said: DarkingDawning said: Interesting. But it doesn't seem that @DarklordVor is hyped for its ending lol. I guess that's understandable since he's obsessed with that girl. I mean Emilia looked better and kinder than Rem, but he did say he like crazy girls like Kotori. By crazy good, do you mean more crazy Rem? From the chapter 13 manga @DarklordVor posted, it seems that we'll see at least once more. Also it seems to be related to the Witch Cult, which Rem somehow hated so much. Then there's a higher stake, I'm thinking of more deaths for our best car Subaru. Well he loves Rem and his reason for him not liking the ending is because something really really really bad happens to her. If you aren't overly crazy about her then you'll love that ending, not because of what happens to whom but how it ends. It's a testament for what this story is and it's a crazy good ending for a season. Crazy good as in more crazy Rem, more best girl Rem, more everything. If you like the suffering, the psychological destruction of characters, the world building, the sad but heartwarming moments, the feeling that your root for that poor guy and the overall emotional impact then arc 3 will surpass any expectations of yours. It's like the author introduced all these aspects in a really tame version and then goes all serious from arc 3 onwards. It's almost like he intentionally held back just to raise the bar so incredibly high with the start of the actual story. Well more deaths are a given but the reasons why he is killed, the way he is killed, the impact it leaves on him is just way more intense. Basically there are so many intense moments on arc 3. I guess we'll see, since I heard that Emilia x Subaru is a thing now right? or my source reader is lying? Anyway that would be pretty good if that is real, I think that is the direction that the author wanted to take from the beginning with Subaru loving Emilia too. |
Jun 1, 2016 5:49 PM
#306
Jun 2, 2016 3:37 AM
#307
DarklordVor said: Ooh my Nyantype magazine finally arrived~ It seems episode 13 is revealed on this issue: Title: 『自称騎士ナツキ・スバル』 from arc 3 chapter 20. Alright since this means something like Self-named Knight "Natsuki Subaru" |
Jun 3, 2016 3:59 AM
#308
Thanks to Winter_Firefly, he just told me that there will be a pre-screening of episode 12 in two weeks! Some people of the staff and the voice actors will watch episode 1-11 together and then jump over to episode 12 which introduces the new arc. They seem to know what awaits us in arc 3 and that it will be whole new experience. Now that's what I call advertising a new arc :D! http://re-zero-anime.jp/news/#news-80 |
Jun 3, 2016 12:33 PM
#309
I want a spoiler Emilia is a simple character or she has some dark secrets or perhaps a hidden intent towards Subaru? Thanks :-D |
Jun 3, 2016 1:08 PM
#310
Perpetual_Burn said: I want a spoiler Emilia is a simple character or she has some dark secrets or perhaps a hidden intent towards Subaru? Thanks :-D There is definitely more to her than appears to be right now. So yes she has a past and some secrets but no malicious intention |
Jun 3, 2016 2:10 PM
#311
Fappa said: Perpetual_Burn said: I want a spoiler Emilia is a simple character or she has some dark secrets or perhaps a hidden intent towards Subaru? Thanks :-D There is definitely more to her than appears to be right now. So yes she has a past and some secrets but no malicious intention Very nice,thanks. |
Jun 3, 2016 2:23 PM
#312
bobzanny said: Fappa said: bobzanny said: Oh fuck yea that is what I'm talking about, I love the scale that this anime is heading into. Too often with these Isekai anime it's just a limited scope, knowing that we'll be getting a broad picture of international politics and war is just amazing. I can only imagine the amount of deaths that are coming Subaru's way. The thing is this story uses the Isekai theme only as a stepping stone instead of defining trait. Hell later on the Isekai aspect completely disappears once Subaru says his farewell to his former life by cutting all his ties with it. From that point onward he lives completely within this world and this includes its kingdoms, races, authorities, historical events and so on. But yes I also love that especially since the deaths in arc 3 involve way more people, their life, their future and overall the stakes are way higher. In these deaths Subaru really can't fail or go on without a perfect ending otherwise he sends a lot of people to their doom...well if he manages to achieve that is another story. I mean right now the loops are mainly about him surviving his fate of dying on "Day X" and maybe the death of other people instead of Subaru but imagine what toll it will take if his actions can change the fate of a massive amount of people. bobzanny said: Just as boobs are fake asses, episode 25 is a fake ending. We both know what is the real ending of Re:Zero. Ah I actually like that ending of arc 3 but maybe that's because I look at it as a part of the bigger picture :D. I love the MAJOR development Subaru gets through that ending and all the things he does in order to somehow change it although its close to impossible Fappa confirmed sadist. Loves seeing @DarklordVor and all Rem fans in pain. Since it seems like Arc 3 begins on episode 12, when do Subaru and Emilia have their split? Because IIRC you said that Subaru and Emilia had a bit of a conflict which resulted in their separation. I wouldn't even call that ending sadistic. It's just bittersweet since not complete victory that is all. Nothing wrong with that. Sadistic ending would be like Fate/Zero were the entire cast save one or two died and MC ends p broken. |
Jun 3, 2016 4:29 PM
#313
Jagd84 said: bobzanny said: Fappa said: bobzanny said: Oh fuck yea that is what I'm talking about, I love the scale that this anime is heading into. Too often with these Isekai anime it's just a limited scope, knowing that we'll be getting a broad picture of international politics and war is just amazing. I can only imagine the amount of deaths that are coming Subaru's way. The thing is this story uses the Isekai theme only as a stepping stone instead of defining trait. Hell later on the Isekai aspect completely disappears once Subaru says his farewell to his former life by cutting all his ties with it. From that point onward he lives completely within this world and this includes its kingdoms, races, authorities, historical events and so on. But yes I also love that especially since the deaths in arc 3 involve way more people, their life, their future and overall the stakes are way higher. In these deaths Subaru really can't fail or go on without a perfect ending otherwise he sends a lot of people to their doom...well if he manages to achieve that is another story. I mean right now the loops are mainly about him surviving his fate of dying on "Day X" and maybe the death of other people instead of Subaru but imagine what toll it will take if his actions can change the fate of a massive amount of people. bobzanny said: Just as boobs are fake asses, episode 25 is a fake ending. We both know what is the real ending of Re:Zero. Ah I actually like that ending of arc 3 but maybe that's because I look at it as a part of the bigger picture :D. I love the MAJOR development Subaru gets through that ending and all the things he does in order to somehow change it although its close to impossible Fappa confirmed sadist. Loves seeing @DarklordVor and all Rem fans in pain. Since it seems like Arc 3 begins on episode 12, when do Subaru and Emilia have their split? Because IIRC you said that Subaru and Emilia had a bit of a conflict which resulted in their separation. I wouldn't even call that ending sadistic. It's just bittersweet since not complete victory that is all. Nothing wrong with that. Sadistic ending would be like Fate/Zero were the entire cast save one or two died and MC ends p broken. F/Z ending was hardly sadistic. Everyone went through their respective arc there wasn't any torture or prolonging the inevitable like in Re:Zero. |
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Jun 4, 2016 12:59 PM
#314
So I got bored today and decided to do something to waste my life and time lol. All of these are not really accurate, as there may some omitted scenes done by White Fox or my human errors getting these numbers. So let's just say this is an approximation, okay? Episode 1 WN: 71,922 words LN: 72,740 words Episode 2 WN: 37,205 words LN: 33,881 words Episode 3 WN: 38,316 words LN: 33,855 words Note: if you add up all the WN words I listed here, you may notice that it was slightly different from the one I listed earlier because I copied that from the Japanese wiki. The reason to this might be caused by me not including the titles, the A/N, and some human errors. It seems we're seeing a trend of 30-35k words each episode. I'm gonna see the pacing for arc 2 tomorrow when I'm bored again lol. So let's see if the pace of every episodes are actually steady. |
Jun 4, 2016 1:58 PM
#315
bobzanny said: Jagd84 said: bobzanny said: Fappa said: bobzanny said: Oh fuck yea that is what I'm talking about, I love the scale that this anime is heading into. Too often with these Isekai anime it's just a limited scope, knowing that we'll be getting a broad picture of international politics and war is just amazing. I can only imagine the amount of deaths that are coming Subaru's way. The thing is this story uses the Isekai theme only as a stepping stone instead of defining trait. Hell later on the Isekai aspect completely disappears once Subaru says his farewell to his former life by cutting all his ties with it. From that point onward he lives completely within this world and this includes its kingdoms, races, authorities, historical events and so on. But yes I also love that especially since the deaths in arc 3 involve way more people, their life, their future and overall the stakes are way higher. In these deaths Subaru really can't fail or go on without a perfect ending otherwise he sends a lot of people to their doom...well if he manages to achieve that is another story. I mean right now the loops are mainly about him surviving his fate of dying on "Day X" and maybe the death of other people instead of Subaru but imagine what toll it will take if his actions can change the fate of a massive amount of people. bobzanny said: Just as boobs are fake asses, episode 25 is a fake ending. We both know what is the real ending of Re:Zero. Ah I actually like that ending of arc 3 but maybe that's because I look at it as a part of the bigger picture :D. I love the MAJOR development Subaru gets through that ending and all the things he does in order to somehow change it although its close to impossible Fappa confirmed sadist. Loves seeing @DarklordVor and all Rem fans in pain. Since it seems like Arc 3 begins on episode 12, when do Subaru and Emilia have their split? Because IIRC you said that Subaru and Emilia had a bit of a conflict which resulted in their separation. I wouldn't even call that ending sadistic. It's just bittersweet since not complete victory that is all. Nothing wrong with that. Sadistic ending would be like Fate/Zero were the entire cast save one or two died and MC ends p broken. F/Z ending was hardly sadistic. Everyone went through their respective arc there wasn't any torture or prolonging the inevitable like in Re:Zero. Just because F/Z didn't have explictly torture or had completed characters arcs does not mean did not end badly for everyone not named Wavier. Besides that doesn't matter because those things simply happened in other timelines were Subaru failed. The things happened F/Z can never be made right and nobody has the power to do so. Re:Zero isn't about defeatism or prolonging the inevaible, it's about making sure the inevitabe doesn't happen by overcoming them with few as sacrifices as possible. If wasn't Subaru would never have gotten through Arc 3 or evren Arc 1 at all. He has tough, but it's hardly hopeless. |
Iron_MawJun 4, 2016 2:12 PM
Jun 4, 2016 2:18 PM
#316
Jagd84 said: bobzanny said: Jagd84 said: bobzanny said: Fappa said: bobzanny said: Oh fuck yea that is what I'm talking about, I love the scale that this anime is heading into. Too often with these Isekai anime it's just a limited scope, knowing that we'll be getting a broad picture of international politics and war is just amazing. I can only imagine the amount of deaths that are coming Subaru's way. The thing is this story uses the Isekai theme only as a stepping stone instead of defining trait. Hell later on the Isekai aspect completely disappears once Subaru says his farewell to his former life by cutting all his ties with it. From that point onward he lives completely within this world and this includes its kingdoms, races, authorities, historical events and so on. But yes I also love that especially since the deaths in arc 3 involve way more people, their life, their future and overall the stakes are way higher. In these deaths Subaru really can't fail or go on without a perfect ending otherwise he sends a lot of people to their doom...well if he manages to achieve that is another story. I mean right now the loops are mainly about him surviving his fate of dying on "Day X" and maybe the death of other people instead of Subaru but imagine what toll it will take if his actions can change the fate of a massive amount of people. bobzanny said: Just as boobs are fake asses, episode 25 is a fake ending. We both know what is the real ending of Re:Zero. Ah I actually like that ending of arc 3 but maybe that's because I look at it as a part of the bigger picture :D. I love the MAJOR development Subaru gets through that ending and all the things he does in order to somehow change it although its close to impossible Fappa confirmed sadist. Loves seeing @DarklordVor and all Rem fans in pain. Since it seems like Arc 3 begins on episode 12, when do Subaru and Emilia have their split? Because IIRC you said that Subaru and Emilia had a bit of a conflict which resulted in their separation. I wouldn't even call that ending sadistic. It's just bittersweet since not complete victory that is all. Nothing wrong with that. Sadistic ending would be like Fate/Zero were the entire cast save one or two died and MC ends p broken. F/Z ending was hardly sadistic. Everyone went through their respective arc there wasn't any torture or prolonging the inevitable like in Re:Zero. Just because F/Z didn't have explictly torture or had completed characters arcs does not mean did not end badly for everyone not named Wavier. Besides that doesn't matter because those things simply happened in other timelines were Subaru failed. The things happened F/Z can never be made right and nobody has the power to do so. Re:Zero isn't about defeatism or prolonging the inevaible, it's about making sure the inevitabe doesn't happen by overcoming them with few as sacrifices as possible. If wasn't Subaru would never have gotten through Arc 3 or evren Arc 1 at all. He has tough, but it's hardly hopeless. Well exactly F/Z story was inevitable because it already happened so there was nothing sadistic about it, Re:Zero on the other hand has an infinite number of outcomes with each loop pertaining to Subaru's consistent mental state. Things can always get worse in Re:Zero but in F/Z it was set. |
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Jun 4, 2016 3:39 PM
#317
bobzanny said: Jagd84 said: bobzanny said: Jagd84 said: bobzanny said: Fappa said: bobzanny said: Oh fuck yea that is what I'm talking about, I love the scale that this anime is heading into. Too often with these Isekai anime it's just a limited scope, knowing that we'll be getting a broad picture of international politics and war is just amazing. I can only imagine the amount of deaths that are coming Subaru's way. The thing is this story uses the Isekai theme only as a stepping stone instead of defining trait. Hell later on the Isekai aspect completely disappears once Subaru says his farewell to his former life by cutting all his ties with it. From that point onward he lives completely within this world and this includes its kingdoms, races, authorities, historical events and so on. But yes I also love that especially since the deaths in arc 3 involve way more people, their life, their future and overall the stakes are way higher. In these deaths Subaru really can't fail or go on without a perfect ending otherwise he sends a lot of people to their doom...well if he manages to achieve that is another story. I mean right now the loops are mainly about him surviving his fate of dying on "Day X" and maybe the death of other people instead of Subaru but imagine what toll it will take if his actions can change the fate of a massive amount of people. bobzanny said: Just as boobs are fake asses, episode 25 is a fake ending. We both know what is the real ending of Re:Zero. Ah I actually like that ending of arc 3 but maybe that's because I look at it as a part of the bigger picture :D. I love the MAJOR development Subaru gets through that ending and all the things he does in order to somehow change it although its close to impossible Fappa confirmed sadist. Loves seeing @DarklordVor and all Rem fans in pain. Since it seems like Arc 3 begins on episode 12, when do Subaru and Emilia have their split? Because IIRC you said that Subaru and Emilia had a bit of a conflict which resulted in their separation. I wouldn't even call that ending sadistic. It's just bittersweet since not complete victory that is all. Nothing wrong with that. Sadistic ending would be like Fate/Zero were the entire cast save one or two died and MC ends p broken. F/Z ending was hardly sadistic. Everyone went through their respective arc there wasn't any torture or prolonging the inevitable like in Re:Zero. Just because F/Z didn't have explictly torture or had completed characters arcs does not mean did not end badly for everyone not named Wavier. Besides that doesn't matter because those things simply happened in other timelines were Subaru failed. The things happened F/Z can never be made right and nobody has the power to do so. Re:Zero isn't about defeatism or prolonging the inevaible, it's about making sure the inevitabe doesn't happen by overcoming them with few as sacrifices as possible. If wasn't Subaru would never have gotten through Arc 3 or evren Arc 1 at all. He has tough, but it's hardly hopeless. Well exactly F/Z story was inevitable because it already happened so there was nothing sadistic about it, Re:Zero on the other hand has an infinite number of outcomes with each loop pertaining to Subaru's consistent mental state. Things can always get worse in Re:Zero but in F/Z it was set. Maybe then sadistic wasn't the right word, but I don't think either fit the definition much at all anyway. Point is that unlike F/Z Re:Zero isn't a story about inevitably. Nothing could advert the tragedy that happened in F/Z partly because that was just history, but will that never case Re:Zero no matter hard it gets. Sure somethings can't be avoided sure, but ultimately it comes down to facing adversity to reach an end and not the hardship/suffering that come as byproduct of that adversity being the end point itself. So what makes the story compelling is because Subaru always works to earn everything he's got coming to him and nothing ever handed on sliver platter. |
Iron_MawJun 4, 2016 5:18 PM
Jun 5, 2016 12:36 PM
#318
Jun 5, 2016 3:30 PM
#319
From the first page arc 1 and 2 are 582000 words long and last 11 ep. So in 14 episodes we can make ~750000 words. Arc 3 is 1070000 words so 3/4 can be made theorically. But I doubt they will stop here so it's simple for me with some useless scenes less and also some parts we can cut a little and maybe 2 40 min length episode we can make it. |
Onepieceuc1Jun 5, 2016 3:36 PM
Jun 5, 2016 3:47 PM
#320
Onepieceuc1 said: From the first page arc 1 and 2 are 582000 words long and last 11 ep. So in 14 episodes we can make ~750000 words. Arc 3 is 1070000 words so 3/4 can be made theorically. But I doubt they will stop here so it's simple for me with some useless scenes less and also some parts we can cut a little and maybe 2 40 min length episode we can make it. I haven't calculate arc 2 and arc 3 LN words, because they might be shorter than the WN (note that the LN is the polished version of the WN and also the one that the anime adapted from). Episode 2-23 is definitely 20 minutes episode. Since the BD was listed with 75 minutes each volumes except volume 9. Volume 9 is the only BD that is listed with 50 minutes, so we can assume that they will extend episode 24 OR 25 to make volume 9 a 75 minutes BD like vol. 1-8. |
Jun 5, 2016 8:31 PM
#321
As an anime-only, is the LN/WN over or close? This is the only LN-based anime I seriously will be depressed if it doesn't finish adapting. |
Jun 5, 2016 9:13 PM
#322
So there's a chance this show is going to have an actually ending unlike some shows? Or am I completely misreading this board which could happen, it's quite late. Plus I thought the story was still on going? |
Jun 5, 2016 9:54 PM
#323
SovereignSky said: As an anime-only, is the LN/WN over or close? This is the only LN-based anime I seriously will be depressed if it doesn't finish adapting. The LN/WN is still ongoing. The WN is currently on arc 6 (on-hold) while the LN is on arc 3 (ongoing). The anime speculatively will end with the LN finishing the arc 3. Arc 4+ will be another news, but looking at Pre-order numbers (3k total), it's kind of "meh" compared to other airing anime like Kabaneri. InuScotty711 said: So there's a chance this show is going to have an actually ending unlike some shows? Or am I completely misreading this board which could happen, it's quite late. Plus I thought the story was still on going? There is a chance it will end on the end of arc 3. The ending itself is a big cliffhanger, but fortunately, for people like me, Re:Zero already ended on that alternate ending. The story is still ongoing with arc 6 for WN and arc 3 for LN. |
Jun 5, 2016 10:29 PM
#324
Pre-order (3k total). what the hell is going on with japaneses (otaku) tastes? I don't want to believe.... At least, I want this series catch up Hataraku series 1 6 15,538 2013/07/03 Spring Hataraku Maou-sama! 2 6 11,219 2013/08/07 Spring Hataraku Maou-sama! 3 6 10,966 2013/09/04 Spring Hataraku Maou-sama! 4 6 10,803 2013/10/16 Spring Hataraku Maou-sama! 5 6 10,569 2013/11/06 Spring Hataraku Maou-sama! 6 6 11,718 2013/12/04 Spring Hataraku Maou-sama! |
DirtyOldGuyJun 5, 2016 10:35 PM
Jun 5, 2016 11:35 PM
#325
machixmachi said: Pre-order (3k total). what the hell is going on with japaneses (otaku) tastes? I don't want to believe.... At least, I want this series catch up Hataraku series 1 6 15,538 2013/07/03 Spring Hataraku Maou-sama! 2 6 11,219 2013/08/07 Spring Hataraku Maou-sama! 3 6 10,966 2013/09/04 Spring Hataraku Maou-sama! 4 6 10,803 2013/10/16 Spring Hataraku Maou-sama! 5 6 10,569 2013/11/06 Spring Hataraku Maou-sama! 6 6 11,718 2013/12/04 Spring Hataraku Maou-sama! Yeah no joking. Re:Zero's pre-order (BD+DVD+Amazon) = 1,934 + 294 +1,105 + 196 = 3,529 sales compared to Kabaneri's pre-order (BD+DVD+Amazon) = 2,271 + 256 + 4,772 +697 = 7,996 sales (that's more than twice of Re:Zero right now) Kabaneri is slowly creeping up to KonoSuba's average sales while Re:Zero is probably having their budget breakeven with ~4k sales (the animation is definitely more costly than usual anime). It will be released in 18 days, so it will probably stop around ~5k to ~6k sales. Then again, since this is just amazon stalker, that means it could be 0-100% higher or lower from its pre-order prediction numbers. |
DarklordVorJun 5, 2016 11:38 PM
Jun 6, 2016 4:38 AM
#326
Those are points accumulated through pre-orders. It doesn't mean those will be the final numbers for the BD/DVDs. Looking at the estimates, Re:zero's volume 1 will probably sell 6-7k or probably a bit more if it continues to perform well. DarklordVor said: Kabaneri is slowly creeping up to KonoSuba's average sales while Re:Zero is probably having their budget breakeven with ~4k sales (the animation is definitely more costly than usual anime). Better animation doesn't necessarily mean the show has a huge budget. One Punch Man had an average budget according to the chief animator of the show. You can make a good looking anime with a small number of animators if everything is timed out properly. |
Z4KJun 6, 2016 4:47 AM
Jun 6, 2016 5:01 AM
#327
Thanks DarlordVor and Z4k I still hope rezero's 7-8k sales |
DirtyOldGuyJun 6, 2016 6:28 AM
Jun 6, 2016 5:32 AM
#328
By the way, I just found out Whitefox isn't even listed in the production committee for the series lol. http://blog.livedoor.jp/anime_in/archives/57831874.html |
Jun 6, 2016 5:57 AM
#329
Well, it's not like you can't do anything for that. If you really love the show, just buy the japanese bds. I just pre-ordered the first vol for the moment, but i will certainly pre-order the other ones soon™ The 9 volumes cost a bit less than 500 euros, that makes like 60-65 euros every month for 9 months, which is not excessive imo |
Jun 6, 2016 6:01 AM
#330
Z4k said: By the way, I just found out Whitefox isn't even listed in the production committee for the series lol. http://blog.livedoor.jp/anime_in/archives/57831874.html I heard that Re:Zero is more a Nexus show than a White Fox one lol They have some talented animators, as seen on Rakudai which was a co-production between Silver Link and Nexus. Well shit Nexus isn't listed either xD I guess the possibility of a second season will depend if the LN sell well, which is kinda the case for the moment |
KlinsKJun 6, 2016 6:10 AM
Jun 6, 2016 6:31 AM
#331
KlinsK said: Well, it's not like you can't do anything for that. If you really love the show, just buy the japanese bds. I just pre-ordered the first vol for the moment, but i will certainly pre-order the other ones soon™ The 9 volumes cost a bit less than 500 euros, that makes like 60-65 euros every month for 9 months, which is not excessive imo Yep. I understood. I will buy it for sure (maybe in 2017 because some personal reasons) |
Jun 6, 2016 6:49 AM
#332
Z4k said: By the way, I just found out Whitefox isn't even listed in the production committee for the series lol. http://blog.livedoor.jp/anime_in/archives/57831874.html They are a studio? |
Down on the West Coast They got a sayin' |
Jun 6, 2016 6:54 AM
#333
TeamDalaiLana said: Z4k said: By the way, I just found out Whitefox isn't even listed in the production committee for the series lol. http://blog.livedoor.jp/anime_in/archives/57831874.html They are a studio? I know but sometimes studios invest in a series and are part of the production committee. Whitefox were contracted to animate Re:zero by the publishers and aren't involved in the production at all which means they won't get any of the profit made from the anime. Basically, it's now up to the publishers if they want a second season or not. |
Z4KJun 6, 2016 7:00 AM
Jun 6, 2016 7:07 AM
#334
DarklordVor said: SovereignSky said: As an anime-only, is the LN/WN over or close? This is the only LN-based anime I seriously will be depressed if it doesn't finish adapting. The LN/WN is still ongoing. The WN is currently on arc 6 (on-hold) while the LN is on arc 3 (ongoing). The anime speculatively will end with the LN finishing the arc 3. Arc 4+ will be another news, but looking at Pre-order numbers (3k total), it's kind of "meh" compared to other airing anime like Kabaneri. InuScotty711 said: So there's a chance this show is going to have an actually ending unlike some shows? Or am I completely misreading this board which could happen, it's quite late. Plus I thought the story was still on going? There is a chance it will end on the end of arc 3. The ending itself is a big cliffhanger, but fortunately, for people like me, Re:Zero already ended on that alternate ending. The story is still ongoing with arc 6 for WN and arc 3 for LN. The alternate ending is that "What if" chapter or something right? Guess I'll find it when anime finishes, I just never read LN despite finding the translations for some reason. |
Jun 6, 2016 7:14 AM
#335
Z4k said: How much influence does a author have? Does he even have any? I know but sometimes studios invest in a series and are part of the production committee. Whitefox were contracted to animate Re:zero by the publishers and aren't involved in the production at all which means they won't get any of the profit made from the anime. Basically, it's now up to the publishers if they want a second season or not. I don't have much knowledge about this stuff. |
Jun 6, 2016 7:18 AM
#336
ColdBreeze said: How much influence does a author have? Does he even have any? I don't have much knowledge about this stuff. Not much. He has to give his ok for the anime adaptation to happen. After that it depends on the author and the production. Some authors give their ok and let the studio do their thing and other are heavily involved in the production. |
Jun 6, 2016 7:26 AM
#337
ColdBreeze said: Z4k said: How much influence does a author have? Does he even have any? I know but sometimes studios invest in a series and are part of the production committee. Whitefox were contracted to animate Re:zero by the publishers and aren't involved in the production at all which means they won't get any of the profit made from the anime. Basically, it's now up to the publishers if they want a second season or not. I don't have much knowledge about this stuff. Influence on what? |
Jun 6, 2016 7:55 AM
#338
Z4k said: Ah sorry, what I was trying to ask was - can an authors choice decide whether they should do a sequel or not? Or is it really just the committee who decides such things even if the author is involved in the project? [...]a second season or not. But @Fappa answered already. I guess it's like he said. That's what I thought though. ^^ |
Jun 6, 2016 8:15 AM
#339
ColdBreeze said: Ah sorry, what I was trying to ask was - can an authors choice decide whether they should do a sequel or not? Or is it really just the committee who decides such things even if the author is involved in the project? But @Fappa answered already. I guess it's like he said. That's what I thought though. ^^ Oh if we talk about sequel or not then the author and his editor are usually brought into the discussion when it's about the source Material. How much source material is there? When are the next few volumes expected to release? Is there enough source material to adapt a 1 or 2 cour season? If That's the case then would there be a good starting and ending point? The author is pretty much the one who gives the information that is then brought to the table in the actual discussion. But deciding it? No. Almost every author would pledge for yes yes yes. It's up to the other companies in the Committee including the publisher ( Media Factory or Kadokawa as the mother company in this case ) to decide that. They're the ones investing the money after all :). |
Jun 6, 2016 8:22 AM
#340
What's a "B route"? |
Jun 6, 2016 8:29 AM
#341
Fappa said: You have a point there. That makes sense ofc.^^ ColdBreeze said: Ah sorry, what I was trying to ask was - can an authors choice decide whether they should do a sequel or not? Or is it really just the committee who decides such things even if the author is involved in the project? But @Fappa answered already. I guess it's like he said. That's what I thought though. ^^ Oh if we talk about sequel or not then the author and his editor are usually brought into the discussion when it's about the source Material. How much source material is there? When are the next few volumes expected to release? Is there enough source material to adapt a 1 or 2 cour season? If That's the case then would there be a good starting and ending point? The author is pretty much the one who gives the information that is then brought to the table in the actual discussion. But deciding it? No. Almost every author would pledge for yes yes yes. It's up to the other companies in the Committee including the publisher ( Media Factory or Kadokawa as the mother company in this case ) to decide that. They're the ones investing the money after all :). Thanks for the clarification. Looks like we have to wait and hope. :D |
Jun 6, 2016 9:25 AM
#342
ColdBreeze said: Fappa said: You have a point there. That makes sense ofc.^^ ColdBreeze said: Ah sorry, what I was trying to ask was - can an authors choice decide whether they should do a sequel or not? Or is it really just the committee who decides such things even if the author is involved in the project? But @Fappa answered already. I guess it's like he said. That's what I thought though. ^^ Oh if we talk about sequel or not then the author and his editor are usually brought into the discussion when it's about the source Material. How much source material is there? When are the next few volumes expected to release? Is there enough source material to adapt a 1 or 2 cour season? If That's the case then would there be a good starting and ending point? The author is pretty much the one who gives the information that is then brought to the table in the actual discussion. But deciding it? No. Almost every author would pledge for yes yes yes. It's up to the other companies in the Committee including the publisher ( Media Factory or Kadokawa as the mother company in this case ) to decide that. They're the ones investing the money after all :). Thanks for the like we have to wait and hope. :D to wait and hope. :D Or learn japanese xD |
Jun 6, 2016 9:43 AM
#343
KlinsK said: That's not really the problem here :DOr learn japanese xD I just want to see the next arcs animated as well because it has an different effect than reading it. ^^ |
Jun 6, 2016 12:17 PM
#344
Z4k said: Those are points accumulated through pre-orders. It doesn't mean those will be the final numbers for the BD/DVDs. Looking at the estimates, Re:zero's volume 1 will probably sell 6-7k or probably a bit more if it continues to perform well. DarklordVor said: Kabaneri is slowly creeping up to KonoSuba's average sales while Re:Zero is probably having their budget breakeven with ~4k sales (the animation is definitely more costly than usual anime). Better animation doesn't necessarily mean the show has a huge budget. One Punch Man had an average budget according to the chief animator of the show. You can make a good looking anime with a small number of animators if everything is timed out properly. I see, but Re:Zero is a very risky anime to make. They make a whole 25 episodes without break, so I think that would at least cost more than an average anime. KlinsK said: Well, it's not like you can't do anything for that. If you really love the show, just buy the japanese bds. I just pre-ordered the first vol for the moment, but i will certainly pre-order the other ones soon™ The 9 volumes cost a bit less than 500 euros, that makes like 60-65 euros every month for 9 months, which is not excessive imo Ya, I already pre-ordered the first volume for the BOX set~ SovereignSky said: DarklordVor said: SovereignSky said: As an anime-only, is the LN/WN over or close? This is the only LN-based anime I seriously will be depressed if it doesn't finish adapting. The LN/WN is still ongoing. The WN is currently on arc 6 (on-hold) while the LN is on arc 3 (ongoing). The anime speculatively will end with the LN finishing the arc 3. Arc 4+ will be another news, but looking at Pre-order numbers (3k total), it's kind of "meh" compared to other airing anime like Kabaneri. InuScotty711 said: So there's a chance this show is going to have an actually ending unlike some shows? Or am I completely misreading this board which could happen, it's quite late. Plus I thought the story was still on going? There is a chance it will end on the end of arc 3. The ending itself is a big cliffhanger, but fortunately, for people like me, Re:Zero already ended on that alternate ending. The story is still ongoing with arc 6 for WN and arc 3 for LN. The alternate ending is that "What if" chapter or something right? Guess I'll find it when anime finishes, I just never read LN despite finding the translations for some reason. Yes, the "what if" chapter. Pretty much a good ending~ it's also a whole volume purchase bonus for buying Re:Zero vol. 1-9 BD. Tusilos said: What's a "B route"? B routes are chapters that were introduced in arc 4. They were put in between chapter 129 and 130. |
Jun 6, 2016 9:27 PM
#345
How f*cking long is Arc 3?! People are saying that in the 6th volume it's still ongoing?!?! And isn't there like 8 volumes out anyways?! That's what wikipedia says... EDIT: Reading some other comments, I like the idea of the show ending in an alternate happy ending, but subtle hinting if a second season happens. If it does happen, then it can be retconned as a dream or alternate timeline through bullshit time travel. If it doesn't happen, then we still get a happy ending with a complete and whole story. |
Lord_ThantusJun 6, 2016 9:31 PM
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Jun 7, 2016 3:24 AM
#346
Lord_Thantus said: How f*cking long is Arc 3?! People are saying that in the 6th volume it's still ongoing?!?! And isn't there like 8 volumes out anyways?! That's what wikipedia says... EDIT: Reading some other comments, I like the idea of the show ending in an alternate happy ending, but subtle hinting if a second season happens. If it does happen, then it can be retconned as a dream or alternate timeline through bullshit time travel. If it doesn't happen, then we still get a happy ending with a complete and whole story. It's 6 volumes ( 4-9 ) and about 1 million words long. At this point is veeeeery unlikely for an original ending to happen. Firstly it wouldn't make sense for the BD preorder bonus to be this "what if" story if they didn't follow the actual ending. Another reason is that it's so illogical to alter the story about 15% into the story. It's like they put up a huge stop sign at the start of the story and this wouldn't benefit the future of the series at all. |
Jun 7, 2016 4:20 AM
#347
Seems like the anime will definitely cover all of arc 3. Also, part of the new cast has been revealed. Crusch: Iguchi Yuka Felix -Ferris- Argail: Horie Yui ---and rumours say: Anastasia: Ueda Kana Priscilla: Tamura Yukari Julius: Eguchi Takuya (8man...) Al: Fujiwara Keiji Nothing known about Wilhelm or Betelgeuse yet. The cast looks ridiculous af.. |
Jun 7, 2016 4:32 AM
#348
Jun 7, 2016 4:44 AM
#349
Ferris is going to be my new fav character I can feel it. Hehe |
Down on the West Coast They got a sayin' |
Jun 7, 2016 5:09 AM
#350
Hell yes! I'm totally satisfied with Crusche's VA. She has a wide range as she even voiced male characters. She is perfect to bring that detemined and fierceful outside as well as the feminine inside across. Glad my favorite female character gets a fitting voice. Ferris is definitely "interesting" LOL If these speculations are true then they got themselves one hell of a cast. |
FappaJun 7, 2016 5:19 AM
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