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That's called asexual. Genderless would mean she is neither a boy nor a girl :P

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stop discussing this nao

Mar 12, 2008 10:17 AM

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amcsi said:
That's called asexual. Genderless would mean she is neither a boy nor a girl :P

That's exactly what i mean. Not only does she seem like not caring about gender relations, but gives a completely genderless feeling of herself.
It's a problem somewhat away from the simple question of sexual preference.

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stop discussing this nao

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stop discussing this nao

All right, but only because you have a Touhou icon.

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Mar 13, 2008 12:29 PM

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nixodus said:
- who knows what? -

*facepalm*

Agreed. orz

Some LS doujins are win. I used to have a few till that day I lost my doujin folder... T___T Haven't gotten the time (or the disk space for that matter) since to track some more down.

God, if I had half a terabyte I'd get so many doujins D:
Better yet if I could actually attend a comiket...
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Me too. :3

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LOLWUT9000 said:

Me too. :3

ME THREE >:3 LOL

Mar 21, 2008 10:11 PM

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Then Kona-sama will cut off your dicks :[

Mar 22, 2008 10:08 AM

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They will probably get blind from that, anyway xD

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Hi All!!

Is Konata bi? Well, in a latent sort of way which is only allowable in a non-adult anime...

I was enjoying the catchy tune of "100% Nai Nai Nai" sung by Kagami (awesome! Get it!) and after glancing at the lyrics and -- well, I guess you really can't escape one of the most popular draws Lucky Star has and that's the shoujo-ai angle, regardless your feelings on the subject. So I guess we might as well explore it.

Of course there's the Minami-Yutaka thing, but personally I think that's really a red herring tease putting us on the same fantasy ride as Hyouri because I just don't see any real moves going on here. Konata and Kagami are different animals because you can see sprinkled around the series coy hints (in Konata's case sometimes not so coy) of some wild wishful feelings going on planted by Kyotoanimation's honchos. It's fun being teased like this, and for me Kagami is a schizoid case of wanting and denial. I mean the way Kagami's wailing and whining to God in "100% Nai Nai Nai" for having separate classes from Konata is both funny and a little heart-wrenching in a way. Kaggie's protesting way too much and deep for a simple brief separation of close friends. I mean this poor girl's seriously HURTIN' for clingy, and where there's smoke there's fire. And I think Konata's all too willing to blaze!

So why don't they "catch"?

Well, I guess outside it not being a "after prime-time" show, I'd like to think there's a kind of unspoken "chicken" game going on between these two. Kagami's a real puzzle because she's smart, pretty, outgoing, yet there's not even a casual boyfriend. Either she puts them off or isn't turned on (maybe that's the definition of a Lucky Star girl?). Kagami sees herself as a (somewhat snooty) upright example of proper feminine behavior and sensibilities, yet her mindless libido's being tickled by a lazy midget weirdo geek who she regards as below her level. That Kagami even bothers giving Konata the time of day much less spending quality time with her so is crazy and telling. Like what keeps her bouncing back to Konata who really abuses her so? How long would you stick with someone ALWAYS copying your homework and makes some pretty cruel cracks about you in public? Is she just a pig for punishment -- or is there more? We know Kagami cares a lot about Konata because she's always on her case and from that tender concert seat swap. Could Kagami actually envy Konata? Konata is super-athetletic, equivalently intelligent or maybe even more (capable of cramming weeks of work in one nite and still make good exam grades), and unabashedly aggressive. Konata lucks out in the manners department -- but that can be adjusted with a little "love". Now if Kagami is actually boy-shy, then Konata is a perfect substitute "boyfriend" for her to imagine hanging around with.

As for Konata (chuckle), Konata, in my opinion is amoral to indifference on this front; Soujuion's adult games and casual attitudes have early corrupted her mind to at the least find boys her age immature and boring. This might cause a bizzare side of effect that if it weren't for her early rapt interest in games she'd been hopping more beds than hop-scotching by middle school. Konata kinda reminds me of a cat toying with a mouse, and that mouse is Kagami which keeps popping out of its mouse hole to get whacked by the cat again and again, and I think the mouse senses the cat's 'interested' in playing more dangerous games and anxiously (and hypocritically) dodges it each time. I think what's notable is there're very few scenes where Konata and Kagami are truly alone in a situation where no one could walk in on them to fan up their simmering fires. I think Kagami would start feeling awkward pretty quick "trapped" with Konata so. A very dangerous scene could've been them being all alone in that summer bath house scene at the beach with Konata pushing her mock-coquette teases on a blushing flustered Kagami. It would be interesting who's left standing on a desert island!

While Kagami's eggshell pride's pretty much all that's keeping her from getting all gushy in front of Konata, I don't see any inhibitions on Konata's side at all in a yuri relationship; maybe she's just bidding her time or is too involved in games to crack the ice or is just to plain lazy to right now. But I think if Konata did a serious hit on Kagami (and she toys with that idea a lot), Kagami would tip over once all her sputtering denial got vented. I can also see Kagami, once over that hump, trying to refine Konata to her classy level -- she'd like that since it doesn't work with Tsukasa. I can't second-guess the writers, but I've a sneaky suspicion they planted this subtle insinuation.

Sadly tho', I think it'd be a rather brief shallow relationship since Kagami might well wish a deeper more serious relationship while Konata might likely take it as new kind of game/sport. Konata just doesn't come across to me as being emotionally developed or deep enough to appreciate the finer details of sharing one's innermost feelings (her dad's fault). I think at best it'd be a "yuri fling" which Kagami would quickly get over with passions and curiosity sated, and returning to see Konata the same old way.  

Anyway that's my rambling take on the issue guys. I'm wearing my asbestos jumpsuit! Thanks for letting me push my iPhone's warranty!

Dee
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Mar 22, 2008 2:30 PM

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^ Wow, epic post. Too bad that we have such short attention spans, I could only get through half of the 3rd paragraph before I gave up x__X

Mar 22, 2008 8:48 PM

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Dee said:
Hi All!!

Is Konata bi? Well, in a latent sort of way which is only allowable in a non-adult anime...

I was enjoying the catchy tune of "100% Nai Nai Nai" sung by Kagami (awesome! Get it!) and after glancing at the lyrics and -- well, I guess you really can't escape one of the most popular draws Lucky Star has and that's the shoujo-ai angle, regardless your feelings on the subject. So I guess we might as well explore it.

Of course there's the Minami-Yutaka thing, but personally I think that's really a red herring tease putting us on the same fantasy ride as Hyouri because I just don't see any real moves going on here. Konata and Kagami are different animals because you can see sprinkled around the series coy hints (in Konata's case sometimes not so coy) of some wild wishful feelings going on planted by Kyotoanimation's honchos. It's fun being teased like this, and for me Kagami is a schizoid case of wanting and denial. I mean the way Kagami's wailing and whining to God in "100% Nai Nai Nai" for having separate classes from Konata is both funny and a little heart-wrenching in a way. Kaggie's protesting way too much and deep for a simple brief separation of close friends. I mean this poor girl's seriously HURTIN' for clingy, and where there's smoke there's fire. And I think Konata's all too willing to blaze!

So why don't they "catch"?

Well, I guess outside it not being a "after prime-time" show, I'd like to think there's a kind of unspoken "chicken" game going on between these two. Kagami's a real puzzle because she's smart, pretty, outgoing, yet there's not even a casual boyfriend. Either she puts them off or isn't turned on (maybe that's the definition of a Lucky Star girl?). Kagami sees herself as a (somewhat snooty) upright example of proper feminine behavior and sensibilities, yet her mindless libido's being tickled by a lazy midget weirdo geek who she regards as below her level. That Kagami even bothers giving Konata the time of day much less spending quality time with her so is crazy and telling. Like what keeps her bouncing back to Konata who really abuses her so? How long would you stick with someone ALWAYS copying your homework and makes some pretty cruel cracks about you in public? Is she just a pig for punishment -- or is there more? We know Kagami cares a lot about Konata because she's always on her case and from that tender concert seat swap. Could Kagami actually envy Konata? Konata is super-athetletic, equivalently intelligent or maybe even more (capable of cramming weeks of work in one nite and still make good exam grades), and unabashedly aggressive. Konata lucks out in the manners department -- but that can be adjusted with a little "love". Now if Kagami is actually boy-shy, then Konata is a perfect substitute "boyfriend" for her to imagine hanging around with.

As for Konata (chuckle), Konata, in my opinion is amoral to indifference on this front; Soujuion's adult games and casual attitudes have early corrupted her mind to at the least find boys her age immature and boring. This might cause a bizzare side of effect that if it weren't for her early rapt interest in games she'd been hopping more beds than hop-scotching by middle school. Konata kinda reminds me of a cat toying with a mouse, and that mouse is Kagami which keeps popping out of its mouse hole to get whacked by the cat again and again, and I think the mouse senses the cat's 'interested' in playing more dangerous games and anxiously (and hypocritically) dodges it each time. I think what's notable is there're very few scenes where Konata and Kagami are truly alone in a situation where no one could walk in on them to fan up their simmering fires. I think Kagami would start feeling awkward pretty quick "trapped" with Konata so. A very dangerous scene could've been them being all alone in that summer bath house scene at the beach with Konata pushing her mock-coquette teases on a blushing flustered Kagami. It would be interesting who's left standing on a desert island!

While Kagami's eggshell pride's pretty much all that's keeping her from getting all gushy in front of Konata, I don't see any inhibitions on Konata's side at all in a yuri relationship; maybe she's just bidding her time or is too involved in games to crack the ice or is just to plain lazy to right now. But I think if Konata did a serious hit on Kagami (and she toys with that idea a lot), Kagami would tip over once all her sputtering denial got vented. I can also see Kagami, once over that hump, trying to refine Konata to her classy level -- she'd like that since it doesn't work with Tsukasa. I can't second-guess the writers, but I've a sneaky suspicion they planted this subtle insinuation.

Sadly tho', I think it'd be a rather brief shallow relationship since Kagami might well wish a deeper more serious relationship while Konata might likely take it as new kind of game/sport. Konata just doesn't come across to me as being emotionally developed or deep enough to appreciate the finer details of sharing one's innermost feelings (her dad's fault). I think at best it'd be a "yuri fling" which Kagami would quickly get over with passions and curiosity sated, and returning to see Konata the same old way.  

Anyway that's my rambling take on the issue guys. I'm wearing my asbestos jumpsuit! Thanks for letting me push my iPhone's warranty!

Dee
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Mar 22, 2008 10:20 PM

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Hmm...I can understand where you might think she's lesbian, what with the way she treats Kagami and all, but what guy has she shown to have feelings for?

Fear the normal, befriend the psychonuts. Like Kamina. XD

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Dee said:
Hi All!!

Is Konata bi? Well, in a latent sort of way which is only allowable in a non-adult anime...

I was enjoying the catchy tune of "100% Nai Nai Nai" sung by Kagami (awesome! Get it!) and after glancing at the lyrics and -- well, I guess you really can't escape one of the most popular draws Lucky Star has and that's the shoujo-ai angle, regardless your feelings on the subject. So I guess we might as well explore it.

Of course there's the Minami-Yutaka thing, but personally I think that's really a red herring tease putting us on the same fantasy ride as Hyouri because I just don't see any real moves going on here. Konata and Kagami are different animals because you can see sprinkled around the series coy hints (in Konata's case sometimes not so coy) of some wild wishful feelings going on planted by Kyotoanimation's honchos. It's fun being teased like this, and for me Kagami is a schizoid case of wanting and denial. I mean the way Kagami's wailing and whining to God in "100% Nai Nai Nai" for having separate classes from Konata is both funny and a little heart-wrenching in a way. Kaggie's protesting way too much and deep for a simple brief separation of close friends. I mean this poor girl's seriously HURTIN' for clingy, and where there's smoke there's fire. And I think Konata's all too willing to blaze!

So why don't they "catch"?

Well, I guess outside it not being a "after prime-time" show, I'd like to think there's a kind of unspoken "chicken" game going on between these two. Kagami's a real puzzle because she's smart, pretty, outgoing, yet there's not even a casual boyfriend. Either she puts them off or isn't turned on (maybe that's the definition of a Lucky Star girl?). Kagami sees herself as a (somewhat snooty) upright example of proper feminine behavior and sensibilities, yet her mindless libido's being tickled by a lazy midget weirdo geek who she regards as below her level. That Kagami even bothers giving Konata the time of day much less spending quality time with her so is crazy and telling. Like what keeps her bouncing back to Konata who really abuses her so? How long would you stick with someone ALWAYS copying your homework and makes some pretty cruel cracks about you in public? Is she just a pig for punishment -- or is there more? We know Kagami cares a lot about Konata because she's always on her case and from that tender concert seat swap. Could Kagami actually envy Konata? Konata is super-athetletic, equivalently intelligent or maybe even more (capable of cramming weeks of work in one nite and still make good exam grades), and unabashedly aggressive. Konata lucks out in the manners department -- but that can be adjusted with a little "love". Now if Kagami is actually boy-shy, then Konata is a perfect substitute "boyfriend" for her to imagine hanging around with.

As for Konata (chuckle), Konata, in my opinion is amoral to indifference on this front; Soujuion's adult games and casual attitudes have early corrupted her mind to at the least find boys her age immature and boring. This might cause a bizzare side of effect that if it weren't for her early rapt interest in games she'd been hopping more beds than hop-scotching by middle school. Konata kinda reminds me of a cat toying with a mouse, and that mouse is Kagami which keeps popping out of its mouse hole to get whacked by the cat again and again, and I think the mouse senses the cat's 'interested' in playing more dangerous games and anxiously (and hypocritically) dodges it each time. I think what's notable is there're very few scenes where Konata and Kagami are truly alone in a situation where no one could walk in on them to fan up their simmering fires. I think Kagami would start feeling awkward pretty quick "trapped" with Konata so. A very dangerous scene could've been them being all alone in that summer bath house scene at the beach with Konata pushing her mock-coquette teases on a blushing flustered Kagami. It would be interesting who's left standing on a desert island!

While Kagami's eggshell pride's pretty much all that's keeping her from getting all gushy in front of Konata, I don't see any inhibitions on Konata's side at all in a yuri relationship; maybe she's just bidding her time or is too involved in games to crack the ice or is just to plain lazy to right now. But I think if Konata did a serious hit on Kagami (and she toys with that idea a lot), Kagami would tip over once all her sputtering denial got vented. I can also see Kagami, once over that hump, trying to refine Konata to her classy level -- she'd like that since it doesn't work with Tsukasa. I can't second-guess the writers, but I've a sneaky suspicion they planted this subtle insinuation.

Sadly tho', I think it'd be a rather brief shallow relationship since Kagami might well wish a deeper more serious relationship while Konata might likely take it as new kind of game/sport. Konata just doesn't come across to me as being emotionally developed or deep enough to appreciate the finer details of sharing one's innermost feelings (her dad's fault). I think at best it'd be a "yuri fling" which Kagami would quickly get over with passions and curiosity sated, and returning to see Konata the same old way.  

Anyway that's my rambling take on the issue guys. I'm wearing my asbestos jumpsuit! Thanks for letting me push my iPhone's warranty!

Dee
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Mar 23, 2008 3:23 AM

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BY HARUHI. What happened to patience, folks? Fori are supposed to contain lengthy, crunchy and tiring posts (I'm guilty of the opposite, orz), or we could as well all blast off to some IRC channel or two-cent chat room.

I for one enjoyed that post. Keep it up, man.

Mar 23, 2008 9:12 AM

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Good post, Dee
But I dunno, I don't think girls just fall in love with other girls just like that. Being a real lesbian or bisexual wanting a lesbian relationship is pretty rare, and in episode 21 where Kagami gets a love letter, it makes me forget about any serious lesbian thoughts she may have.
And Konata... the bath scene where she doesn't look turned on seeing the other girls naked, I guess it can be explained with Konata's style not being the blushing type. Anyway, you can hide lust. She may or may not be a lesbian or a bi, we cannot find out for sure with this one season of Lucky Star. Maybe we'll find more evidence if more seasons come out :)

Mar 27, 2008 4:34 PM

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amcsi said:
Good post, Dee
But I dunno, I don't think girls just fall in love with other girls just like that. Being a real lesbian or bisexual wanting a lesbian relationship is pretty rare,

True, but remember I'm referring to the subtle tease of such affections in this series, not the general reality! :) The operative word her are yuri affections. Too many guys assume any yuri relationship instantly means a tousle in bed, but I've known close friendships between girls that border yuri affection; kind of spices things up -- especially like Konata's off-the-wall "teasing" with Kagami in the bath house! ;) I only differ with you about it being "pretty rare", especially once you hit a campus! ;)

and in episode 21 where Kagami gets a love letter, it makes me forget about any serious lesbian thoughts she may have.)

I've two thoughts about this scene. 1.) It was KA's intentional (bogus?) red-herring to throw off (by this time in the series and in real time) the KonataXKagami shadow that the "clean kiddie" show gathered, and 2.) It was Kagami's wild impulse (of yuri denial?) to grab her first re-affirmation of being totally and absolutely heterosexual. As I mentioned before, it just could be that Kagami's originally straight heart was hi-jacked by some flukey insane sub-psychotic affection for Konata and her pride and reason's trying like blazes to buck it without success. That a very bright and pretty high school thing like Kagami hasn't even been hit on by guys at school much less flirted herself (to my best recollection) begs to question where her heart and hormones lie. Funny thing about this scene in ep 21 was that there was no romantic motion at play at all, not even on Kagami's side for a Mr. X she'd didn't know; she was just running after the HOPE that "something" might kindle (to prove her truly straight?) - if there was anything inside her to kindle. That she got over him/it literally overnight kind of confirms that she's just maybe -- indifferent to men.

IMHO anyway,

Dee

Mar 27, 2008 10:24 PM

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Hmm that can mean something :)

Mar 28, 2008 8:38 AM

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Konata's being bi [or even lesbian] comes across slightly stronger in the manga, I think.

Mar 28, 2008 9:41 AM

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Orbitzz83 said:
^ Wow, epic post. Too bad that we have such short attention spans, I could only get through half of the 3rd paragraph before I gave up x__X

I barelly finished the 3rd myself too :D

Yuri & Shoujo-ai FTW

Mar 28, 2008 12:37 PM

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It has a manga? Aren't those just comic strips?

Mar 30, 2008 5:25 PM

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I don't remeber Konata showing interest in a guy.. but neither showing much interest in a girl , 'cause that's not like her, Konata is awesome, but we all know that despite of her being 18, she's childish,like many of us, so love is not one of her priorities...

I don't care if she's lesbian, or bi, I like her character right how it is
And personally I think that she and kagami are a really cute couple ^^
well, I like yuri, I can't help it...

Mar 31, 2008 9:42 PM

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lol

epic thread is epic

Apr 1, 2008 10:10 AM

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LOLWUT9000 said:
epic thread is epic

epic quote is epic

Apr 2, 2008 4:45 AM

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Konata x Kagami makes the ultimate legal loli yuri couple.
And you know it.

Apr 2, 2008 5:16 AM

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I had a sudden urge for the ultimate illegal yuri couple, but the curiosity was deafened, then killed by the possibilities.

Apr 10, 2008 6:10 PM

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*facedesk* what next? Konata is really an airplane? I uh, well...

I dunno how to answer this question XD

Apr 10, 2008 9:27 PM

#84

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LOLWUT9000 said:
epic thread is epic

epic quote is epic

epic deviate is epic

Apr 11, 2008 12:36 PM

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Dr_deViate said:

Jayme said:

LOLWUT9000 said:
epic thread is epic

epic quote is epic

epic deviate is epic

Epic epicness is actually not at all epic.

IT IS NOT EVEN HEXAMETER!

Apr 24, 2008 12:21 AM

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Thea said:
Konata x Kagami makes the ultimate legal loli yuri couple.
And you know it.

Indeed. See profile.

May 2, 2008 8:00 PM

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Perverted, kinda, Bisexual, dont think so

May 4, 2008 1:56 PM

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konata rocks bi or no bi :D

May 6, 2008 6:16 AM

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LOLWUT9000 said:

Boge said:

K888 said:
she plays dating sims

Etou. Nani? You can't say much since you love hentai.

i have hgames on my hard drive too XD

way to go X3

May 6, 2008 2:00 PM

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Yes, you are all very successful human beings (^3^) b

May 7, 2008 5:19 PM

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lol Straight girls can be into that stuff too XD but...she could be. Well who knows?! I'll still love her no matter what =D

May 17, 2008 5:46 PM

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She's only into Kagami. Only.

And we're only into her. Only.

May 19, 2008 2:27 AM

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lol... who came up with the whole "Konata is bisexual" thing?

May 20, 2008 2:36 PM

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the point of this topic is that many people thought so even before this topic opened^^

May 27, 2008 6:53 PM

#95

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It's a given fact - a small factor of many other personal, distinctive stamps that ultimately makes her attractive.

Aaand a tiny portion trolling -.-

Jun 10, 2008 7:54 PM

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she rocks duh i don't care if shes Bisexual BWT i love it when she use her pervert minds
about Miyuki 8D ohhhhhhh chyeaaahhhh Kagami X Konata is a EPICCC WIN! A Loli Couple
that no one can't disturb them , its like a moe/ loli dream :3

Jun 14, 2008 10:24 AM

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Woah Shes A Bi?
Nice~!
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