| You have the gun mai, so you cannot be too late |
 Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
| Okay. I've gotten a quick look at everything and uh. Mafia has to consist of people who have known me well enough to think I'd get RL busy and become inactive enough to their benefit. theyprobablyalsolikepickingonmeoutsideofMSbutiwontgothatfaryet. Welp. When I'm in this sort of position, I'll read everyone's posts in the thread about 3 times before posting an overall preliminary view of each of them. Now, to my understanding, I've failed my team by burning a full day of the 72 hour phase yes? Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways....Ya. Uhm. I'm rusty as all get out and mafia knows this. So mean. :c I'm blaming grave_robber. Lol. |
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| Someone needs sum WD-40. |
| Second time reading through. You guys should see my notebook with scribbles of what I think thus far lol. In any case, what I aim to do is post what I got now...start over and compare it to a fresh set of eyes later on, and gauge responses (or the lack thereof) between. Erm. So okay. Like. My initial gut is telling me to gun for those who KNOW me. Doesn't mean anyone's out of the water yet, but I'd better serve my time as GunnerGirl with whatever ounce of prior info that I have. Besides, if there are players I don't know who are mafia, they simply followed the others' lead anyhow. So, in essence, that already puts one strike against the following (in no particular order): Pyro Kaito grave_robbah Jack gr8/grr Soren I say these names because they interact with me more often and/or played multiple games with me before my grad school hiatus. I don't want to just fill up a wall o' text so please hold for a more full, individual analysis in...uh...sometime in the near future. |
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| Interesting list Mai. I dont complai for being listed^^ |
~I am just one sadist who supports friends~  |
| I said I was going to be the first to die. This is so mean. #WelcomeBackMai |: If I can get a baddie though, that'd be cool. FYI. Did my 3rd read. Not posting actual thoughts on players till more stuff happens. I do advise that those being silent or playing it close to the vest speak up more. Trying to fly under the radar isn't going to help your gameplay In standard mafia/werewolf, the first lynch is more or less a guess anyways, and that's a lot of pressure for one person lol. So, that being said. Not only do I aim to probably shoot someone I know, I will more than likely shoot someone I respect think will do the gun its justice with a fair shot next phase. AvengeMePls Ok. Talk to y'all soon. |
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| A lot of people don't talk much when they're vanilla, mainly because they're too dependent of abilities. Praise the Mafia deities that we don't have a Lie Detector. I'm feeling so good this game, I'm actually pro-mass claim. |
MaiTai said: Second time reading through. You guys should see my notebook with scribbles of what I think thus far lol. In any case, what I aim to do is post what I got now...start over and compare it to a fresh set of eyes later on, and gauge responses (or the lack thereof) between. Erm. So okay. Like. My initial gut is telling me to gun for those who KNOW me. Doesn't mean anyone's out of the water yet, but I'd better serve my time as GunnerGirl with whatever ounce of prior info that I have. Besides, if there are players I don't know who are mafia, they simply followed the others' lead anyhow. So, in essence, that already puts one strike against the following (in no particular order): Pyro Kaito grave_robbah Jack gr8/grr Soren I say these names because they interact with me more often and/or played multiple games with me before my grad school hiatus. I don't want to just fill up a wall o' text so please hold for a more full, individual analysis in...uh...sometime in the near future. lol. I didn't make it onto this list :3 |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
coromandel said: The fact that they gave it to MaiTai, even though she hasn't posted during the waiting phase, tells us something, I think. They could have given it to one of those who "wanted" the gun, but decided not to do that. *hmm*[/spoiler] What does it tell you? =3 grrr said: I haven't yet read the posts. But what I understand from the rules this game is all up to chance if we ignore the psychological elements. So if I have the gun I will just shoot gr someone for personal reasons. *sighs* I'm getting real tired of this... The_Pyromaani said: Yosh. Im here. Head is clear enough to be here^^ Nice that Mai has the gun Why is it nice? ^^ Jackrito said: The_Pyromaani said: And hime knows as townie how to kill townie always ;) Don't bring past game and grudges into this it helps no one apart from mafia if we try to kill each other off reasons not revelant to the current game. So many people wanting to shoot others over past games, it makes me wanna shoot them all... Mkim said:  Why are you so scared of getting shot? Are you mafia kim? grrr said: lupadim said: It looks like killing all the vengeful mafia as soon as possible (when we have the biggest amount of townies alive) is essential. If we kill all the 3, even if we have only two townies left, that would still be enough to win the game. This is correct. If we kill the 3 vengeful mafia and we have N mafia and M towns then the probability the town to win is N * (N - 1) / ((N+M-1) * (N+M-2)) which is good. If we add the vengeful mafia and we select the targets randomly then we have: town win - 0.5969% draw - 0.1294% mafia win - 0.2735% Soren333 said: Despite not having a lynching system and that the gun bearer has the the ultimate say for who they want to shoot. I think it is a good idea to still place pseudo votes to keep track of who wants who to get shot. We can also do vca. Oh and if you're against this you're scum. ^ I like this idea and I think it might improve the above 59% . vote: Hime You only do statistical analysis when you're mafia so vote: grrr |
Hime-sama said: Soren333 said: Pretty sure pming is not allowed. Well then he needs to tell me, because i dont UNDERSTAND him one bit. does that look like im lying to everyone??? really??? people who know me should understand. Hime, instead of lynching and mafia kills, there's a gun that is used to shoot a player. If the player being shot is mafia, they die, if they're town, they get the gun. Only townies can have the gun so having the gun is a confirmation that you are town. Soren333 said: Next person that posts is mafia. That's like saying "everyone in favor of lynching scum say aye", it's not particularly useful. MaiTai said: Okay. I've gotten a quick look at everything and uh. Mafia has to consist of people who have known me well enough to think I'd get RL busy and become inactive enough to their benefit. theyprobablyalsolikepickingonmeoutsideofMSbutiwontgothatfaryet. Welp. When I'm in this sort of position, I'll read everyone's posts in the thread about 3 times before posting an overall preliminary view of each of them. Now, to my understanding, I've failed my team by burning a full day of the 72 hour phase yes? Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyways....Ya. Uhm. I'm rusty as all get out and mafia knows this. So mean. :c I'm blaming grave_robber. Lol. 1) So you think they went after you for being inactive even though turtlebandit hasn't logged in 3 days (since the game started, I believe he should be replaced). 2) We're in part 2 (hours 24-48) of the 72-hour long Day phase, you haven't failed anyone. 3) You're rusty and I'm burned out, shoot me and I'll shoot grrr who wants to shoot me. (see how annoying it is grr? >_>) 4) I'm always to blame, I'm the evil grave robber. We all know that. MaiTai said: Second time reading through. So, in essence, that already puts one strike against the following (in no particular order): Pyro Kaito grave_robbah Jack gr8/grr Soren See? grr and I are on the list, shoot him, he's always bad. (not kidding right now) He does those percentages when he's mafia (info instead of analysis) and he voted hime who I think is being set up because she always gets upset and defensive when targeted day 1 and he (soren too) knows this. |
xanic said: lol. I didn't make it onto this list :3 You talk to me on Skype? Usernames there are often different than here, so forgive me. Lol. I was mainly speaking on that. Pls hold for double post. Possibly lengthy folks. If you want to speak on parts of it, quote that rather than the entire thingy so I'll know what you're speaking on. |
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| Grave he grrr does a statisical analysis every game we went over this before lol, that alone can't be the deciding factor for him being scum or not. |
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Mai Notes Pyro: Posted prior to mafia selecting me. Knows my on/offline patterns. Kaito: First to state potential reasoning for me being gunbearer. Also aware of inactive history through staff interaction. Robbah: Posts "Wall O' Quotes" and double posts. Gives most detailed options to why I was selected. This same reasoning could have been used in the mafia group to convince others to choose me. Turtle: Inactive. If mafia, the group/Suzune decided to let me be GB based on majority vote despite inactivity. More than likely town though. MKim: I got nothing. Posted before mafia decision. Jack: Was lurking according to Robbah. Controversy: Posted twice before mafia decision and once before but AFTER Suzune set the time limit. grr/gr8: Usually super active when town based on the games we played before MS. Kinda quiet now. x@home: I got nothing. Posted once before mafia decision. Ruman: Made an odd post saying something along the lines "Mai is confirmed." Confirmed? Meaning what? Sounds like confirmation from the mafia group, but could have just been a weird choice of words... Shap: Posted before mafia decision but AFTER Suzune's time limit. Posted at 4:51 p.m. CST with Suzune's post for the phase start at 5:04 p.m. Sasa: Made a cute notes section. Kinda early to do it though. I dunno this person I don't think. Karote: Asks about the logistics of the mafia group. Could be an honest question. Could be a mafia trying to look like town. Soren: Knows me well enough. Posted AFTER Suzune's time limit. Lupa: Posted before and AFTER Suzune's time limit. Hime: Defensive. Posted before time limit. Coro: Suggested Kaito was playing differently. --- Accusations Soren vs Hime: Appeared to be random. Happened after Lupa vs Hime. Lupa vs Hime: Before game start. Lupa was probably fishing/testing. Hime's response was heavily defensive though. Stuff got real...real fast. Lol. Coro vs Kaito: Coro said Kaito was playing more seriously in suggestion he had a role to take more seriously. Kaito responded that he's always serious. Robbah vs Jack: Said Jack was lurking. Jack said he just got up. Robbah vs gr8: Said gr8 was playing in typical mafia fashion. I make note of these (vs) because mafia will call out other mafia to make it look like at least one of them is town. At this point in time, I am NOT shooting turtlebandit. Turtle will either be replaced due to inactivity or whatever...Not sure if he's getting online and not coming to the thread as I DO NOT check sign in time stamps (I actually HATE that. I think it's not cool, but whatever lol). However, even if turtle is town, I'm not sure if he's able to get on enough played on the current lack of game play. I know this is the pot calling the kettle black but yeah. If turtle is mafia, it'd become apparent soon enough. Considering Suzune had to use a time limit, there was either debate, or the mafia live across the world from another so timezones weren't lining up. |
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| Question to everyone... Not who I should shoot, but if I shot you and you got the gun, who would YOU shoot and why? |
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MaiTai said: Question to everyone... Not who I should shoot, but if I shot you and you got the gun, who would YOU shoot and why? I think i would shoot someone like Grave, because she knows you well and i can see her giving you gun. Hoping you would shoot someone thats town aligned. |
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| I'd shoot Jackrito because he's always getting me lynched in these games. If not him then sasame for trying to make people look bad. |
MaiTai said: Hime because you have to kill mafia in order to winQuestion to everyone... Not who I should shoot, but if I shot you and you got the gun, who would YOU shoot and why? |
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MaiTai said: Question to everyone... Not who I should shoot, but if I shot you and you got the gun, who would YOU shoot and why? Still not sure, but am still interested in the conflict around Hime. Her defense is really iffy, but she has done something similiar before as town. @Soren, after the answers she has given, what do you think of her now? |
MaiTai said: Question to everyone... Not who I should shoot, but if I shot you and you got the gun, who would YOU shoot and why? S-s-scary :S ! Grave, Kaito, Hime or Shap111. One of those. The names are hopefully RANDOMLY selected. KaitoKirishima said: Grave he grrr does a statisical analysis every game we went over this before lol, that alone can't be the deciding factor for him being scum or not. Kaito is right. It was just a coincidence that lately I was mafia. It was a coincidence, not a trend! Also the numbers I gave are wrong. I just noticed we are 18 players. (I thought the game starts with 20). I will fix them later. |
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| Well you guys, at this point, I think it's best that I start letting you guys know who I'm seriously considering at the moment. Will do in a bit. |
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grrr said: MaiTai said: Question to everyone... Not who I should shoot, but if I shot you and you got the gun, who would YOU shoot and why? S-s-scary :S ! Grave, Kaito, Hime or Shap111. One of those. The names are hopefully RANDOMLY selected. KaitoKirishima said: Grave he grrr does a statisical analysis every game we went over this before lol, that alone can't be the deciding factor for him being scum or not. Kaito is right. It was just a coincidence that lately I was mafia. It was a coincidence, not a trend! Also the numbers I gave are wrong. I just noticed we are 18 players. (I thought the game starts with 20). I will fix them later. Wait you want me shot why? |
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grave_robber said: 3)You're rusty and I'm burned out, shoot me and I'll shoot grrr who wants to shoot me. (see how annoying it is grr? >_>) You are bluffing grave. I am sure you wouldn't shoot me. Even if you want it a little we both know you would act rationally and not let your emotions to affect your choice. |
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KaitoKirishima said: Wait you want me shot why? If I was looking for a reason it would be because you defended me. Even if it is correct friendly guys in mafia games are scummy. (Except turtle bandit. he is always friendly). Or it could be because you like horsemons... But as I said I selected you RANDOMLY. |
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grrr said: KaitoKirishima said: Wait you want me shot why? If I was looking for a reason it would be because you defended me. Even if it is correct friendly guys in mafia games are scummy. (Except turtle bandit. he is always friendly). Or it could be because you like horsemons... But as I said I selected you RANDOMLY. Why so focused on RANDOMNESS ? While statistics are nice and give a bigger picture, I don't think it's what dictates mafia games. |
grrr said: KaitoKirishima said: Wait you want me shot why? If I was looking for a reason it would be because you defended me. Even if it is correct friendly guys in mafia games are scummy. (Except turtle bandit. he is always friendly). Or it could be because you like horsemons... But as I said I selected you RANDOMLY. Not sure where the logic in that is, i defend you every game. |
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MaiTai said: Question to everyone... Not who I should shoot, but if I shot you and you got the gun, who would YOU shoot and why? Soren or Lupadim. Because they seem a little too sure of Hime being mafia. I'd probably shoot Soren, because he should know that Hime acts the same way even when she's town. (Tohou game comes to mind) |
| Yes, shoot me so I can get the gun :D |
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MaiTai said: Question to everyone... Not who I should shoot, but if I shot you and you got the gun, who would YOU shoot and why? I would not shoot anyone straight away I like to take my time with things espically one that could end with me dying. so I would value up the options with time given and see how people react to me having the gun and see if anyone tries overly hard to convince me not to shoot them . I have no intention of shooting anyone on a whim like others seem to planing to by using reasons from old games since that is not revelant to this game. |
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Turtle has been poked. He has not been online since the 31st. So if I have to, i will get Doughkey to take his place. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
KaitoKirishima said: grrr said: If I was looking for a reason it would be because you defended me. Even if it is correct friendly guys in mafia games are scummy. (Except turtle bandit. he is always friendly). Or it could be because you like horsemons... But as I said I selected you RANDOMLY. Not sure where the logic in that is, i defend you every game. Thaat is something you should really stop doing because when someone you defend is bad it will lead back to you been a suspect in most games. They is no need to defend other people in these games people are more than able to do so themselfs. Unless you have proof to trust them of course |
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Soren333 said: Yes, shoot me so I can get the gun :D x3 Soren, can you answer x_at_home's question about Hime: x_at_home said: @Soren, after the answers she has given, what do you think of her now? |
| Doughkey better have my money. |
KaitoKid said: Grave he grrr does a statisical analysis every game we went over this before lol, that alone can't be the deciding factor for him being scum or not. Why are you defending him? I've played with him being mafia and town, he has NEVER posted those while being town. Link to a game where he's posted such stats while being town. Btw, I think the numbers are always slightly off when he's bad, so someone else should do that math and check. Also, why are you so eager to defend him? scared your mafia buddy's dying on day 1? ^^ MaiTai said: That's a nice summary. I like how you took note of when people posted (before vs after the time limit) 1) I always try to cover all possible scenarios or "Reasons" for kills/conversions and in this case the choice of gun bearer regardless of my alignment. 2) Doubles posts usually happen when I'm back reading or if my post is too long. Sorry if it bothers you -_- 3) I can help clarify some things there for you: - Rumanshi's post about you being confirmed came after suzune's post declaring you as the gun bearer. The rules state that only a townie can hold the gun, so whoever has it is a confirmed townie, that's why he said you were confirmed imo. - Saya is a rather new but great player, hopefully, she will be active and you'll get to see her in action. The note section was a bit early but the last time she played might have affected that since we had some players who demanded extensive notes and analysis from people right from the start. I won't make a reading based on that post alone. - Hime did post after suzune's time limit post. she and lupa had a small exchange and she replied to one of my posts. - I did say Jack was lurking but I hadn't checked his profile, he's usually watching game threads so I just tried to poke him(it worked, so...) MaiTai said: Question to everyone... Not who I should shoot, but if I shot you and you got the gun, who would YOU shoot and why? grr, I would have to think about it, people I 'd consider shooting and still have the gun (meaning I think they're viable mafia targets): 1) Hime 2) grr 3) Kaito 4) mkim If I get stuck, I might shoot someone I think is town. |
KaitoKid said: MaiTai said: Question to everyone... Not who I should shoot, but if I shot you and you got the gun, who would YOU shoot and why? I think i would shoot someone like Grave, because she knows you well and i can see her giving you gun. Hoping you would shoot someone thats town aligned. Come at me bro! grrr said: MaiTai said: Question to everyone... Not who I should shoot, but if I shot you and you got the gun, who would YOU shoot and why? S-s-scary :S ! Grave, Kaito, Hime or Shap111. One of those. The names are hopefully RANDOMLY selected. KaitoKirishima said: Grave he grrr does a statisical analysis every game we went over this before lol, that alone can't be the deciding factor for him being scum or not. Kaito is right. It was just a coincidence that lately I was mafia. It was a coincidence, not a trend! Also the numbers I gave are wrong. I just noticed we are 18 players. (I thought the game starts with 20). I will fix them later. 1) why hopefully and why randomly? At this point, you should at least have some suspicions or gut feelings. 2) I'm 1st on the list <3 3) Again, please provide a link from games where you've posted such stats while being town. 4) ha! You admit they're inaccurate ^^ grrr said: Yes, if I do get the gun, I would take a deep breath and rearrange my thoughts, b-but, you'd still be a person of interest >.< What's with the wouldn't dare do it comment? I would shoot you if I thought you were bad -_- Suzune-chan said: Turtle has been poked. He has not been online since the 31st. So if I have to, i will get Doughkey to take his place. Might be worth poking Saya-chan as well. Skype's faster for poking players. |
| >.> <.< Hi everyone :) (Did I happen to get replaced while I was gone?) |
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turtlebandit said: Nope, you are still in the game. You are close, I was going to replace you this evening if you did not show up~>.> <.< Hi everyone :) (Did I happen to get replaced while I was gone?) |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Suzune-chan said: turtlebandit said: Nope, you are still in the game. You are close, I was going to replace you this evening if you did not show up~>.> <.< Hi everyone :) (Did I happen to get replaced while I was gone?) Huehuehue Turtles may be slow, but we'll get where we're going eventually :) |
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turtlebandit said: Suzune-chan said: Nope, you are still in the game. You are close, I was going to replace you this evening if you did not show up~ Huehuehue Turtles may be slow, but we'll get where we're going eventually :) Hi turtle! =D Looks like it's just you and me, I scared them all away :p |
grave_robber said: turtlebandit said: Huehuehue Turtles may be slow, but we'll get where we're going eventually :) Hi turtle! =D Looks like it's just you and me, I scared them all away :p Hi Grave :) |
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| @Grave I'm not defending cause we are both mafia, i'm defending him because your reasoning for saying Grrr is mafia is illogical. I've seen grrr state statisitcs in the Death Note Game where he was town aligned so wheres yours excuse there? Also maybe i should come at you lol, see where it gets me. |
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x_at_home said: So many people avoiding my questions ;-; Whats your question? |
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| Dunno if this is working or not, but I'm gathering info from asking my question for those who have the gun after me. Take notice of who has accused who in the first round where no one takes it too seriously. That being said. I think I'm just gonna shoot now. No use in prolonging a guess lol. |
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x_at_home said: KaitoKid said: Whats your question? You mean, to you? Hmm, none particular at the moment. Just find it interesting that this time you are not in the center of some debate, lol. I'm a little surprised too, but i think it's just cause i say dumb things which causes everyone to focus on me :P |
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x_at_home said: KaitoKid said: Whats your question? You mean, to you? Hmm, none particular at the moment. Just find it interesting that this time you are not in the center of some debate, lol. Give it time. |
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Jackrito said: x_at_home said: You mean, to you? Hmm, none particular at the moment. Just find it interesting that this time you are not in the center of some debate, lol. Give it time. Meanie :( |
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MaiTai said: Who are you shootingDunno if this is working or not, but I'm gathering info from asking my question for those who have the gun after me. Take notice of who has accused who in the first round where no one takes it too seriously. That being said. I think I'm just gonna shoot now. No use in prolonging a guess lol. |
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MaiTai said: Dunno if this is working or not, but I'm gathering info from asking my question for those who have the gun after me. Take notice of who has accused who in the first round where no one takes it too seriously. That being said. I think I'm just gonna shoot now. No use in prolonging a guess lol. Oh well.. I hope you are right if you want to do it that way. First time playing with you and you're already a big asset to the game. I would prefer more specific pressure though to get more intel. |
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