| Manners aren't. But chivalry in its truer sense has been dead a while. One example of "chivalry" dying would be when I was dating my wife. She refused to let me pay for anything. I couldn't hold the door for her, and I couldn't show affection in public at all. It kind of makes it hard to be chivalrous when you can't even be polite. Regardless of a woman's feelings or whether or not you think a man is "dominating", men have feelings too. Relationships are give and take. Men's egos are fragile. While feminism has done some good things, it often creates a hostile environment where men are forced to prove something. If we are being honest, most guys don't want to do the things women ask them to do. Much less explain why they have only the purest intentions for doing so and be constantly checked and tested. This may be irrelevant to you or you may disagree completely, but I have tried to approach my marriage with this sentiment: "It's easy to die for something. It's much harder to live for something." If you live for others, you will be happier. And you shouldn't need a reason for doing something nice BTW. |
text27 said: yes if you read the whole thing...robots will only kill the people you put in-front of them so yeah. RandomChampion said: u were that homie in the thong werent u |
elvenladders said: I was being facetious. Of course, it would be impractical for someone to try and guess on one-off occasions (unless the guy tipped his fedora as the woman passed through the doorway, in which case it would be blindingly obvious). That's not the point. The point is that the distinction is important, because the motivation is different in each case. Araby said: How can a woman tell the difference between the two?She should be grateful if he's holding the door open with kind and helpful intent. She should ask if he's up for a jousting match as well, if he's holding the door open with chivalrous intent. Damaein said: Did you let her pay for anything (if she ever offered to)? If so, then I would agree that she's being unreasonable. If not, I would disagree. I think it's wonderful when someone wants to "fund" a relationship 50/50. Manners aren't. But chivalry in its truer sense has been dead a while. One example of "chivalry" dying would be when I was dating my wife. She refused to let me pay for anything. I couldn't hold the door for her, Do you hold the door for everyone, or just women? Did you let her hold the door for you (if she ever tried to)? and I couldn't show affection in public at all. This strikes me as more of an individual preference than anything else. I don't see how it relates to chivalry. If we are being honest, most guys don't want to do the things women ask them to do. What sort of things are you referring to? I genuinely have no idea. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| -_- Big long quote strings. I'll try to answer everything since you took the time to respond specifically. She literally would not let me pay for anything of hers. She once yelled at a manager about an employee not automatically splitting the check. That was embarrassing. I hold the door for people all the time. She never held the door for me. Probably is usually. But she specifically told me it was because she would dictate how and when affection was shown. She didn't want to be a "prize" shown off. Take your pick. Literally anything. The point of the last statement wasn't specifically an action as that changes per individual. It was to point out that people who are doing something for you are already out on a limb for you. Why hassle them about it? Why be suspicious? |
text27 said: yes if you read the whole thing...robots will only kill the people you put in-front of them so yeah. RandomChampion said: u were that homie in the thong werent u |
Damaein said: Thanks for the answer. Honestly, it just sounds like she was (is?) kind of weird/controlling. I guess it worked out though, since you guys are married.-_- Big long quote strings. I'll try to answer everything since you took the time to respond specifically. She literally would not let me pay for anything of hers. She once yelled at a manager about an employee not automatically splitting the check. That was embarrassing. I hold the door for people all the time. She never held the door for me. Probably is usually. But she specifically told me it was because she would dictate how and when affection was shown. She didn't want to be a "prize" shown off. Take your pick. Literally anything. The point of the last statement wasn't specifically an action as that changes per individual. It was to point out that people who are doing something for you are already out on a limb for you. Why hassle them about it? Why be suspicious? |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| @Zero I don't want to live in a society where people are afraid of helping. Right or wrong. I guess it's kind of indicative of society. People make every action personal and assume the worst scenario. It just seems so pessimistic. @Araby It did. She is a lot better now honestly. She admitted to me later that she just had major trust issues that kind of formed a wall in regards to men. Which I guess would boil down to the entire argument as a whole. Maybe everyone has lost the ability to trust others. That sounds like a very high strung life though. |
text27 said: yes if you read the whole thing...robots will only kill the people you put in-front of them so yeah. RandomChampion said: u were that homie in the thong werent u |
| Well you're just a bundle of joy aint'cha |
text27 said: yes if you read the whole thing...robots will only kill the people you put in-front of them so yeah. RandomChampion said: u were that homie in the thong werent u |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTQfGd3G6dg ;-) |
text27 said: yes if you read the whole thing...robots will only kill the people you put in-front of them so yeah. RandomChampion said: u were that homie in the thong werent u |
| Depends on the person |
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| I don't do chivalrous acts so I do not care |
| my avatar is the bus driver from Rosario + Vampire |
| Google'd Chivalry. Got a bunch of Skyrim type shit results. Instead we're talking about holding doors. can we not |
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Rarity said: Chivalry is a pretty useless term, everyone should just be polite to everyone. Yea, it's pointless. I try to be nice to everyone. |
| "If you love someone Follow your heart Cause love comes once If you’re lucky enough" |
| It is actually a bit sad to see that Chivalry concept nowadays were just about how to treat a woman. Because if it is, then it's true that Chivalry is dead. |
| The most important things in life is the people that you care about |
| It is usually confused with flirting because people barely know the difference |
| The game has been dying for a while now. My friends and I used to play it all the time and it's a pretty entertaining medieval FPS. Personally, the spear was my favorite, and I excelled at feinting my attacks. Man at arms was the most broken class in the game by far though; you're pretty much scum if you actively picked it... archers too. |
| Chivalry, real chivalry.....does not mean what you think it does. Also, Mount and Blade series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Chivalry:Medieval Warfare. |
| The Art of Eight |
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