| What do u think are light's mistakes in the entire series? |
| Killing "Lind L Tailor." Thread over. |
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| at some points when he puts Light in Jail. He totally forgets about that it can control time of death... |
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Iri said: Spoiler for Death Note Chapter 68: rofl, I might agree with that being his biggest mistake. |
| Targeting L. He could have easily suceeded if not for his inflated 'i have to win everything' ego. |
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Koreth said: Slykain said: at some points when he puts Light in Jail. He totally forgets about that it can control time of death... two mistakes with that: 1) Light's mistakes, not L's mistakes. 2) That wasn't a mistake, they KNEW he could control time of death, remember it took like two weeks or so for NEW criminals to begin dying. They never said criminals stopped dying altogether, but new criminals had to die to clear Light's name. Then that clears mine... o_o sry I didnt read right the title. D: |
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Iri said: Spoiler for Death Note Chapter 68: well you know what they say....... yagami spelled backwards is "Im a gay" |
Neverender said: That and relying too heavily on the notebook. Higuchi was my favorite Kira because he knew he was in a situation where the death note was useless and pulled out a gun. On the other hand, Light tried to use the death note until the very last moment. On another note, Soichiro wasn't that smart either, because he tried to write Mellos' name into the book, rather than shoot him.Killing "Lind L Tailor." Thread over. |
asandari said: Spoilers for death note series (if you didn't realise that based off of the thread description, and even after that STILL click my spoiler button, I have no remorse for you. Yeah indeed... But at that moment Light wasnt aware of L as "threat". He was amazed by deathnotes power and believed that he was allready the god of the new world... Indeed that was hes biggest mistake and if he didnt exposed himself there i cant think anyways that L could use to track him.... |
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| In episode 16, "Decision", Light gives himself up for confinement. He then stays in confinement according to L "just over two weeks", this means he's been in confinement for at least 15 days, also Matsuda comes to L exclaiming that two weeks worth of criminals had been killed the previous day, meaning on the 14th day of Light's confinement or later. This plays on episode 24 "Revival" in which the Death Note is discovered to have a rule stating that "if the person using the note fails to consecutively write names of people to be killed within 13 days of each other, then the user will die." This is the evidence which clears Light's and Misa's names, but it also proves trivial, given the lapse of killings for 14 days during Light's confinement, it would be evident that the original kira along with the 2nd kira would have died should the rule have been true. So, basically the rule that saved Light and Misa from confinement is one that could easily be proven false because there was no reason for kira to suddenly allow himself to die... leading the plot in another direction had it been discovered... who knows. (I personally thought this would have been exploited in later episodes to help reveal him as kira, but no such luck.) |
carnivorousJul 6, 2008 10:35 PM
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crowslayer91 said: keeping the task force close to him and around years after L died seemed pointless. Keeping the task force around was necessary because at the time Light's father was still on the task force. crowslayer91 said: relying on the notebook to kill people when he couldve just frickin shot all of them. planted a bomb in headquarters after his dad died. idk. he couldve shot N. couldve just given takada a gun. couldve armed mikami with a gun. couldve given misa a gun. Using a gun to kill people was not Kira's style, it could be linked back to Light by the type of gun, ammunition, etc. (the kind of stuff that police can actually figure out and catch you with) and was altogether too risky, as opposed to the notebook which could kill people without there being any known connection or way of knowing how it was done. Also, carrying guns was illegal or something to that effect, as was seen when Light's father had to give up his gun after quitting the police. crowslayer91 said: couldve just hired and enslaved manymany inmates to write names in the notebook as a job or like. brainwash them b4 they die to write names in incessantly. just give em all a bunch of papers. blehk. Light couldn't merely send out pieces of the notebook for others to use mainly because the process of prisoners recieving packages before their death would have been easily noticable (several other reasons can be listed). crowslayer91 said: biggest mistake was probably just picking a fight with L in the first place. get too close to the sun and you burn i suppose L was the one who picked the fight with Kira, stating that he was merely a criminal. Also, Light succeeded in defeating the original L. |
carnivorousJul 6, 2008 11:39 PM
| In the End, was it worth it? |
| Biggest mistake in the series is Light i can't remeber exactly but in the last episode when near is facing Light he says something which gives it away before he finds out the Death note didn't kills near |
 "Why do women have butts on their chests?" Son Goku |
| Letting some idiot manga-ka change his personality at random. Letting some idiot manga-ka suck at writing Death Note. Things like that, damn you Light! Your mistakes were fatal! |
SsjRavi said: Biggest mistake in the series is Light i can't remeber exactly but in the last episode when near is facing Light he says something which gives it away before he finds out the Death note didn't kills near I know what bit you mean!! That was such a dumb mistake! I was yelling at the screen for him being such a dumbass. It when he tries to get Near killed and he says something right after 40 seconds and I'm like *headdesk* That's the only time I actually thought, "Light, you idiot!!" ....cause apart from that, I thought he was fairly smart throughout. |
| "LET'S HOSPITAL!" |
| Finding the damn Death Note in the first place. |
| 1. Killing Lind L Tailor 2. Using the Death Note for EVERYTHING.. seriously, if one day, he walks in the investigation team, and pull out a pistol... BAM! L is dead. No reason to learn his real name. (does it matter if he was tracked in the late parts? where EVERYONE loved him and police decided not to bother investigating him? I mean.. if the "L" team dies, then it's GG, no reason for him to fear police.) 3. Bothering with L in the first place. (See reason 4 on how to ignore L, and become undetected) 4. NOT having a timeline of deaths for "evil" people.. He could have just filled the death note enough for like.. a year? and when he was investigated, don't do ANYTHING except normal life... that would have pulled him off the hook EVERY time... BUT HE HAD TOO MUCH OF A EGO, AND DECIDED TO BECOME "FAMOUS" AS A GOD INSTEAD OF DOING TO ENTIRE THING LIKE I SAID, IN HIS ROOM. Eventually, he could have filled out a LIFETIME's worth of names, and only had to add the "recent" criminals once in a while. |
| 8.Thinking that he would be/was invincible with the DN 7.Being selfish 6.Eating all those Potatoe Chips 5.Wearing too tight clothes around L and NOT expecting him to put him in handcuffs to get a better look xD 4.Not Killing Misa when she first started her 'Kira Days' 3.Not keeping Mikami in better 'check' 2.Thinking that he could be God or a God 1.PICKING UP THE NOTEBOOK |
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| The first and most crucial mistake Light did was kill Lind L. Taylor. If he didn't the only clue L had as to where or who Kira is was that Kira is in Japan (judging by the one criminal that died when Light tested the notebook) and that he may be a student based on the fact that the killings were done from 4pm to 2am (but IMO that assumption is a little far fetched). And if Light only used the internet it would have been impossible to catch him. Thus he would have been safe until Misa come along. But even then if he ignored her too she would have probably given up and didn't use the notebook (though maybe L could have tricked her in meeting somehow). She only used the note to get to Kira. The next obstacle would probably be Shidoh. Since regardless of what was happening in the human world he would have come down at the same time he did to get his notebook back. But since he was pretty dumb Light could have manipulated him somehow. Maybe have a deal with him (let him write some names in so he wouldn't be bothered about dieing) My point is that he should have just ignored the whole investigation and kill people using the internet. If he needed to send some message to the public he could have made a criminal write a message before death. That way he couldn't be back traced. Now to why I keep saying that Light should have used only the internet. That's because L could have used the same trick with TV when he used Lind L. Taylor. He could have figured out witch program Kira always watched and judged criminals from and used that to his advantage. Like, report a criminal on that program in only one part of japan and make it so others parts of the country couldn't know the name (make errors in the name, or make the channel go static for a couple of seconds or something like that). If the criminal died right away that means Kira is in that area. Then cut that area in half and do the same thing. Repeat that as much as you can. Of course it's easy to give advice now :D since we all know what happens. |
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| OK, Death Note really reminded me a lot of the American series "Dexter", where the protagonist also kills criminals while working for the police. Let's see what Light did wrong, and Dexter did right. 1) Dexter never lets people die in public, and never kills on impulse. For the sake of all respectable murderers, Light dear, WHY THE HECK DID YOU HAVE TO KILL THAT GUY WHILE HE WAS ON TV? Couldn't you wait a few hours? 2) Dexter did not want the bodies of his victims to be found. Why draw unnecessary attention? On the other hand, Light... yeah, I don't even have to say it... 3) MOST IMPORTANT!!! Dexter knew when to quit and go on living a normal life with his girlfriend. Light dear... that time when enough was enough was when Misa showed up in your door. There is a reason why all Hollywood heroes stop when they finally get the girl. They know better. Heh... Cleansing the world from all filth... I'm sorry, but if Misa showed up in my house, saying she'd do anything I told her, I'd say "Who gives a **** about the world!!!" |
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| Picking up the Death Note? No ones mentioned this yet (i think) but at some point this guy tricks him into giving him information. |
| Not loving Misa. |
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Pan151 said: Based on what you said the moment you found the notebook you'd say that.I'm sorry, but if Misa showed up in my house, saying she'd do anything I told her, I'd say "Who gives a **** about the world!!!" Hide the bodies? how the fuck would you hide the body a criminal who is in jail? and writing something like "find a good place where nobody could find you and die" before every name he wrote would have been a pain in the ass. +because people who couldn't do it for whatever reason would have just die. The death note should have been just a daily routine. You come home, watch tv, have a beer, kill some criminals, play your xbox a little, kill more criminals. If he just ignored everything about the investigation everything would have been fine. Except we would have read a boring ass manga. If i found a death note i'd probably kill criminals from time to time too. Just about 500% less than Light did. |
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| kira doesn't use guns, it would be an insult to DN's power make use of another way to kill. and he needed somebody to hate, an enemy, and L did a great job, so as Mello and Near. (did you realize that?: K L M N, if you exclude K, L could be the 12th genious of a secret organization, or this is just a whim from the autor) the task force ,in some way, gave him the names he needed. so i dont think he made mistakes, he did the best he could, and L was way too better then he, but, the lack of knowledge killed him. L used Lind L Taylor because he KNEW that it would work. he forced it on the text that Lind was reading. he needed that people saw the bodies, if the criminals just died, it would be just bad luck, but the heart attacks are the god's hand acting on the world. the people should know about him to his original plan work, but the emotion of face L made him to change plans and seek for self satisfaction. I went too deep into my theories, so i'm probaly wrong in some point, but... |
Pan151 said: OK, Death Note really reminded me a lot of the American series "Dexter", where the protagonist also kills criminals while working for the police. Let's see what Light did wrong, and Dexter did right. Stop right there. Don't compare Dexter to Light. Dexter has actually a moral code and his character has depth while Light is just a shounen protagonist who kills anything he sees because he's evil. |
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carnivorous said: In episode 16, "Decision", Light gives himself up for confinement. He then stays in confinement according to L "just over two weeks", this means he's been in confinement for at least 15 days, also Matsuda comes to L exclaiming that two weeks worth of criminals had been killed the previous day, meaning on the 14th day of Light's confinement or later. This plays on episode 24 "Revival" in which the Death Note is discovered to have a rule stating that "if the person using the note fails to consecutively write names of people to be killed within 13 days of each other, then the user will die." This is the evidence which clears Light's and Misa's names, but it also proves trivial, given the lapse of killings for 14 days during Light's confinement, it would be evident that the original kira along with the 2nd kira would have died should the rule have been true. So, basically the rule that saved Light and Misa from confinement is one that could easily be proven false because there was no reason for kira to suddenly allow himself to die... leading the plot in another direction had it been discovered... who knows. (I personally thought this would have been exploited in later episodes to help reveal him as kira, but no such luck.) Wow I cant beleive L didn't notice that. And anyway I think Lights biggest mistake was letting the taskforce know of the notebooks existance in the first place. |
| 1) Not aiming for L's head during the Tennis match. 2) Not banging Misa all day and night. 3) Mikami Teru. |
| Well, as people mentioned one of the biggest mistakes was the death of Lind L. Taylor. Discovering himself in such a silly way was a mistake that chased him for the rest of the series. I would also add his excess of self-confidence in many points of the series, but mainly in the final arc. |
| A big mistake he made was testing the notebook on a criminal being shown on tv. He was not expecting the book to work, which is why he didn't show much caution. This would have been completely different if Ryuk appeared to Light before using the notebook to kill, however Ryuk was not interested in following anyone that didn't first use the book to kill, hence rule 2 of section IV, although he could have because Light gained the ability to see and hear Ryuk the second he picked up the book. Like everyone else mentioned, killing Lind L. Taylor was a huge mistake and very un-light like, but something had to get the series of events started. Kira should have started killing globally and at all hours from the start, but he had no idea of the scope he was dealing with in L. |
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| Another mistake of Light's was when he started getting the information on the FBI Agents through Soichiro's files, which was what got L to start suspecting the Task Force and their families in the first place. He could have quietly continued killing criminals but once he started attacking the police that was a big risk. |
| not making the shinigami eye deal with ryuk LOL |
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| Killing Lind L Tailer Killing Raye Penber when he didn't suspect Light to be Kira at all Showing L he has access to police information, to get closer to L Targeting L Not bringing a gun with him though he was allowed to |
| not trying to kill l fast enough |
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| il say Killing Raye Penber, the FBI agents, and Naomi Misora. think about if light just acted like a regular person doing his daily stuff and acted all innocent then raye penber would of thought ok his clean * which he did* but this was lights biggest mistake. if only he didn't kill raye then he'd be ok people say killing Lind L Tailer was his biggest mistake but to be honest i think his death doesn't count as a mistake cause if he didn't kill Lind L Tailer we wouldt have the best car and mouse chase ever, altho if he didn't kill Lind L Tailer then maybe just maybe the series would of been longer. the dumb ass mistake he did was when he shouted *I WIN NEAR* |
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Neverender said: Killing "Lind L Tailor." Thread over. ^this Also in the beginning how the time of deaths never happened during school hours was too much of a hint. And when he stalked Ray Penbar with the hoodie on. If on an off-chance that Ray was listening to music, or decided to look back at who was talking to him.. I think the plan would have been ruined. The explosion trap-defense for his notebook in his desk.. Wouldn't it be suspicious that the killings would stop right after that happened? He really lucked out on that not happening.. He really got sloppy versing Near.. but I think Near explains all of those blunders when they meet Oh and last one I can think of.. When he tried to write their names with his blood, he gave it away with the change of his tone/emotions.. Im pretty sure thats how Near realized what he was doing.. if he just kept his cool instead of started yelling he would have pulled it off |
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| Killing Lind.L.Tailor, Raye Penber and getting full of himself. He was obsessed of being god. If he did not became insane like that I could surely say he could have beaten Near. I also think that Light's intelligence level got down after L's death since he didn't have anyone to challenge him during that time. He was much more smart at the beginning of the series. |
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