Should adaptations stick to what they had been adapted from?
| So what are your thoughts on anime that do not follow its source?(eg. manga/novel) Do you think studio's should stick to the source it had been adapted from, or are you ok with fresh material when an anime strays from its path? |
| If they can do a good job of it, like Full Metal Alchemist. |
| I've always been opposed to anime derailing. For example, I may have liked the 1st FMA anime but it creates a sense of an alternative ending so it takes away from the original plot. |
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| I think anime should follow the original source's material as closely as possible. When they do not follow it at all or make too many changes, it tends to be very disappointing especially if you know the original content. |
| The guys who did Soul Eater did a piss poor job of it, I mean, damn, that ending was just terrible. I almost wish they put the show on hiatus so we could continue along the manga's path. I also heard Sekirei Season 2 strayed heavily from the manga because of a single episode some midway through the season. Not too bothered by it, but I would've been interested to see what could've been. |
| No. That's why it's called "adaptation" and not "identical copy". |
| If a variation in plot is carried out well enough, it only gives me chance to enjoy the whole thing all over again (I rarely re-watch anything, anime or otherwise). Also, I tend to delay watching one format after the other if they are too similar. For example, I've put off watching FMAB for now because I've just finished the manga, and I'd be a little annoyed if knew exactly what'd happen next. On the other hand, however, I didn't enjoy Hellsing (which hardly has anything to do with the manga after the first bit) as much as I enjoy Hellsing Ultimate (which stays true to the manga). So, I guess it really depends on how well the deviation is carried out. If they can come up with something good enough, I'm all up for it... |
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seishi-sama said: No. That's why it's called "adaptation" and not "identical copy". that's what a lot of people fail to see and think an anime or even a movie suddenly becomes shit because it didn't stick closely to the script....although there have been a few titles which I wish they did stick to the script regardless(rosario being one of them) |
| If the derailing is carried out well, it's fine. I just started watching FMA and while it does derail much from the manga, it's still carried out quite well. The bad thing is that most of the time, adaptation will be too rushed that the story becomes sucky, even if it does follow the original source.. |
TensaiShonen said: that's what a lot of people fail to see and think an anime or even a movie suddenly becomes shit because it didn't stick closely to the script....although there have been a few titles which I wish they did stick to the script regardless(rosario being one of them) Not really, just because it doesn't stick to the original source doesn't mean it automatically sucks, it usually sucks because the made up ending is total shit. Examples being: soul eater, that was pure retardation and sprinkles on top for Mifune fans. Kuroshitsuji... what the? Rosario + vampire was just pure cringe worthy fanservice anyway, that adaption was piss poor. Akira: that was badass, even on it's own. GTO was pretty awesome still, and most of it was funnier than the manga. etc etc. People who complain that "haters gonna hate" just because it doesn't stick to the source should take a little look at the anime they're sticking up for. |
| an adaption from any main source should be better not worse.I sometimes doubt why some Anime is so bad even thou it is adapted from a good source.... |
BakaKawaii said: TensaiShonen said: that's what a lot of people fail to see and think an anime or even a movie suddenly becomes shit because it didn't stick closely to the script....although there have been a few titles which I wish they did stick to the script regardless(rosario being one of them) Not really, just because it doesn't stick to the original source doesn't mean it automatically sucks, it usually sucks because the made up ending is total shit. Not true. Ending, you say? I see annoying manga fags in every thread shouting "MANGAH ISH SUPERIOR!!!" after only the first episode of the anime is released. |
| It's hit or miss, really. Sometimes the adaptation can surpass the source material and vice-versa. I don't care if the material diverges. As long as it's good, great. I make it a point though to find the differences between the source and adaptation. Does this extend to games and visual novels too? I mean, I see that a lot of VN adaptations diverge drastically. Though if I were to give an example of the worst VN adaptation? 11eyes - massacred to no end. |
seishi-sama said: Not true. Ending, you say? I see annoying manga fags in every thread shouting "MANGAH ISH SUPERIOR!!!" after only the first episode of the anime is released. I don't usually follow the discussion threads so wouldn't know, but care to point me to an example? I just skimmed through Bakuman and there didn't seem to be any of that. There's also the pacing and filler issues some anime have, which would generally make manga readers irky, as well as drastic changes (drastic changes is what should've been added to ending comment) Sure there'll be people who hate on anime just because they alter from the main story (check FMA after brotherhood was released), but the rational people judge from the anime material, not blindly curse saying it's crap. |
BakaKawaii said: They can also get the atmosphere wrong, screw up the pacing, animate poorly, remove great plot points and characters, etc.. There's more to it than just the ending.Not really, just because it doesn't stick to the original source doesn't mean it automatically sucks, it usually sucks because the made up ending is total shit. |
Mammoth said: They can also get the atmosphere wrong, screw up the pacing, animate poorly, remove great plot points and characters, etc.. There's more to it than just the ending. True... Hellsing (TV) comes to mind with that statement of yours. All five flaws were present in that adaption (atmosphere, pacing, animation, plot and characters) which they rectified in Hellsing Ultimate. The most common problem, as far as I personally feel, is the usual attempt at squeezing the entire plot of volume-loads of a manga into a ~20 episode anime; Rush something up like that and it's hard to NOT screw up. |
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Mammoth said: They can also get the atmosphere wrong, screw up the pacing, animate poorly, remove great plot points and characters, etc.. There's more to it than just the ending. Aye, I saw that I missed that afterwards, there's a lot that can be messed up with the transition between manga and anime, on top of altering the storyline. I've become a manga fan over anime just because the pacing in most anime seems terribly off to me, it's just nicer for me to sit down and read, because when I put an anime episode on it feels like forever. It's not like I'm against tv either, I love sitcoms and the like, and they don't have the pacing issues that quite a lot of anime do. |
| As long as the series isn't marginally worst than the manga, I could care less. Nothing annoys me more than some jackass waltzing into an anime forum and saying ,"so and so's anime adaptation strayed a little from the manga, so it obviously sux." That's ridiculous. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| @Shima_XIX: You can only screw up the atmosphere so much with a soundtrack like that. It was different, but that part of Hellsing TV worked somehow. Everything else, not so much. Then again, I don't really care since Ultimate is so awesome. And yeah, rushed adaptations are awful. I really love fast pacing (I was practically traumatized by Bleach), but you can't just decide to start leaving bits out halfway through. Turning an intense manga (like Bakuman, for example) into a sluggish anime is just as bad, if not worse though. @BakaKawaii: Yeah, I think I'll start shifting towards manga myself. Reading it at my own pace is just better. |
Nyuu3Oct 18, 2010 10:56 AM
| Where's the "I don't care as long as the anime is good" choice, because that's what I would pick. |
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| Eh, to some degree it depends on the situation for me, but overall I do think they need to mix up something, otherwise what's the point of watching the anime if you've already read the manga or vice versa? Give them both a strong point! But also make them both good. Also, the anime can be a good opportunity to improve over faults in the manga, like Yu Yu Hakusho for example cuts out a lot of fluff stuff in the manga that was apparently kinda bad to make the anime be a lot more streamlined awesome. Since YYH was a good anime, I'm for that choice, especially when it somehow avoided dragging like a lot of long running shonen today seem to. |
| I think that an any adaptation should try to be original somewhat. Its easy for a company to slap a couple voice actors to a pre-determined script, but its a lot more interesting to see one that tries to create new ideas from the old ones; build up the show from the pre-existing base plot of the original source. It may end up going bad, and your new plot might be a load of giblets, but hey if it works, then you can get really respected for it. A couple good examples I can think of are of course FMA, tengen toppa gurren lagann the manga (its pretty similar so far, but there have been a fair few variances, and the author has pledged to add his own charm into the already great plot), and elemental gelade (a lot of people hated how the anime turned out, but I found the twist with the villains at the end was a bit cleverer than what the manga is going for) |
leingodf8Oct 18, 2010 12:41 PM
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PockyBebop said: Where's the "I don't care as long as the anime is good" choice, because that's what I would pick. This is what I go with. I just want it to be enjoyable. |
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