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Oct 31, 8:15 PM
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Does anyone else find Prince Julius and the way he teases and physically strokes Scarlet to be creepy stalker like?

I get he is supposed to be toying with her, because he is surrounded by manipulative nobles and that warped his mindset; but the anime keeps playing it up like it is a budding romance and endearing. It really isn't a good chemistry between the characters and is just weird and bad vibes. I hope Julius does not end up as Scarlet's love interest.
Oct 31, 8:39 PM
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You're deluding yourself if you think Julius isn't the love interest, it's as clear as day. Now, I can agree with you that the vibe feels a bit awkward, because you have the duality of his teasing/personality pissing her off, and then his forwardness seems to catch her off guard in vulnerable moments, but it definitely feels like it undermines her as this badass character. Personally, I think he just needs to get his ass kicked on occasion to balance things when he crosses the line, because last episode ended with her threatening to pummel him, and then just... this?
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Oct 31, 9:26 PM
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I wonder if he has some kind of secret? Just messing with people like Scarlet is very frustrating.
Oct 31, 11:42 PM
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If he wasn't the prince he would of been team rocketed. Also it is very obvious he is the love interest.
Oct 31, 11:48 PM
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That's probably because right now he doesn't really seem to see her as a love interest, but more like a treasure that relieves his boredom. I do actually adore personalities like his because they're fun, but he definitely isn't acting like a love interest yet. I don't think they're really going overboard with making it seem like it's supposed to be cute - we get to see Scarlet be pissed about it every time and that's kind of a cue for how we should see it. She wasn't pissed during the one time she thought he was serious (until after learning he wasn't), so I don't think she'll react the same when he's being genuine down the road, which will be the switch into actual chemistry beyond a comedy duo.
Nov 1, 12:41 AM
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That's probably because right now he doesn't really seem to see her as a love interest, but more like a treasure that relieves his boredom. I do actually adore personalities like his because they're fun, but he definitely isn't acting like a love interest yet. I don't think they're really going overboard with making it seem like it's supposed to be cute - we get to see Scarlet be pissed about it every time and that's kind of a cue for how we should see it. She wasn't pissed during the one time she thought he was serious (until after learning he wasn't), so I don't think she'll react the same when he's being genuine down the road, which will be the switch into actual chemistry beyond a comedy duo.
@amentet I think it's pretty clear that he's teasing her because he likes her, but obviously it is too soon for either to be in love, etc. The real problem is that she is too passive whenever he touches her face or grabs her hand etc. in some arrogant/protective display. I can sense that the author is trying to strike a balance between her as an unstoppable force, and a woman who is vulnerable, but it's very uneven so far. Like, in the carriage she just lets him hold his hand to her face, even while casually looking out of the window, just waiting for him to get bored or something, it's weird. Maybe the LN would provide needed context here, but I want some playful banter, or maybe she affectionately embraces his hand with her own, before revealing a threat to break all of his fingers, etc. just give me anything to work with here. This feels like the kind of setup where it only works if he (comically) gets his ass kicked every now and then.
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Nov 1, 2:45 AM
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lol, sorry, mate. personally, I don't like him too cause of his personality but it's as clear as day that he's the love interest and he'll eventually end up with Scarlett.
Nov 1, 3:23 AM
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I think they do have chemistry, but I get what you mean about him being a bit creepy. But I like that about him, normally the princes in these stories are always pretty straight laced and on the level, so it's nice to have a character that at least seems to have a bit of a sinister side to him.

I personally think he teases her on purpose to get her to admit that she likes him first, something like that at least.
I doubt he would spent a lot of time with her if he wasn't actually interested in her.

But who else could be the love interest? Leo is her brother (okay, that's not stopping anyrhing I suppose...) and what other male characters are there even?
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Nov 1, 4:04 AM
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@amentet I think it's pretty clear that he's teasing her because he likes her, but obviously it is too soon for either to be in love, etc. The real problem is that she is too passive whenever he touches her face or grabs her hand etc. in some arrogant/protective display. I can sense that the author is trying to strike a balance between her as an unstoppable force, and a woman who is vulnerable, but it's very uneven so far. Like, in the carriage she just lets him hold his hand to her face, even while casually looking out of the window, just waiting for him to get bored or something, it's weird. Maybe the LN would provide needed context here, but I want some playful banter, or maybe she affectionately embraces his hand with her own, before revealing a threat to break all of his fingers, etc. just give me anything to work with here. This feels like the kind of setup where it only works if he (comically) gets his ass kicked every now and then.
@LostSpectre Yeah, this is a better explanation why it just feels so off to me. She crumbles when he creepily strokes her face, it feels overly vulnerable for a character they are trying to convince us is badass (especially for someone the story is going out of its way to say she isn't in a relationship with yet).
Nov 1, 5:30 AM
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Pacing wise I think they will explain why he acts the way he does around the last episode.
Nov 1, 10:09 AM
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> Save woman
> Call her a toy

- Can he get more based
Nov 1, 10:12 AM

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Why are snowflakes now getting offended by Julius😭😭

Yeah he is annoying and that's the point. He supposed to balance out Scarlett and their back and forth is great and it needs to stay this way.
Nov 1, 11:02 AM

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Unlike the prince from that Stockholm Syndrome-type anime (which we both agreed was terrible), Scarlet is written as a strong character who doesn’t seem traumatized or powerless in the same way. She pushes back, so the dynamic doesn’t feel as one-sided.

Also, if you've finished watching Kusuriya no Hitorigoto, it's weird if you couldn't notice how creepy Jinshi was toward Maomao x
Nov 1, 11:02 AM

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Teasing is fine. Touching is a little annoying.

But I think it's your typical "anime flirting." I don't think he's doing anything out of the ordinary, especially for this kind of villainess show.

Also, he's the only character in this show who's getting under her skin and having her make faces (usually irritated face), so I hope he sticks around.
Nov 1, 12:46 PM
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At first, I thought he was only teasing and just saw her as a way to relieve boredom. But after he almost died saving her, combined with his teasing and putting the rose crown on her, it was they he did everything in that conversation that made me start to think he actually is in love with her, but continues teasing because either he isn't ready to change the dynamic between them yet, or because he thinks she may not feel the same way about him.

Yes, it's clear she has some kind of attraction to him, but that's not enough to believe she'd want to be with him romantically if he proposed. So I think he's masking his true feelings towards her. He'll show her a glimpse and then pretend it wasn't real. Guess that's kind of toxic but in their society and with his personality, I can see why he'd do that to try to protect himself from the pain of her rejection.

In conclusion, I don't find his displays of affection creepy, because I believe they're real, he just doesn't want her or anyone to know it.
Nov 1, 1:48 PM
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@WaterMage

Agreed, it’s like they think this isn’t a fantasy, needing to follow current soft ideals, and that they’ve forgotten what royalty means, literally next in line to RULE the people.

A King has many pawns, how he uses them, is his choice, which will alter their perception of him.
Nov 1, 2:16 PM

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Why are snowflakes now getting offended by Julius😭😭

Yeah he is annoying and that's the point. He supposed to balance out Scarlett and their back and forth is great and it needs to stay this way.
@WaterMage What back and forth? She gets annoyed by things he says, but then behaves passively whenever he invades her personal space.
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Nov 1, 2:42 PM

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Unlike the prince from that Stockholm Syndrome-type anime (which we both agreed was terrible), Scarlet is written as a strong character who doesn’t seem traumatized or powerless in the same way. She pushes back, so the dynamic doesn’t feel as one-sided.

Also, if you've finished watching Kusuriya no Hitorigoto, it's weird if you couldn't notice how creepy Jinshi was toward Maomao x
@dazedcowcow62 Scarlet is a near superhuman level character in terms of strength, but she's closer to the "toy" that the prince calls her, because despite frequently getting annoyed by him, she also either reacts passively or shows vulnerability whenever the prince is being too forward/touching her. I'm not saying the prince is some monster, far from it, but the exchange here isn't even, while Scarlet could in fact punch him to the moon, that doesn't change whether or not her character is being undermined in this dynamic.
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Nov 1, 3:06 PM

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@WaterMage What back and forth? She gets annoyed by things he says, but then behaves passively whenever he invades her personal space.
@LostSpectre if she was that annoyed and hated it she could have easily avoided him entirely. Even he was Prince. But she plays along with it.

I like how people presume "this charcter must be hating it" when they actually don't.
Nov 1, 3:16 PM

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I think they do have chemistry, but I get what you mean about him being a bit creepy. But I like that about him, normally the princes in these stories are always pretty straight laced and on the level, so it's nice to have a character that at least seems to have a bit of a sinister side to him.

I personally think he teases her on purpose to get her to admit that she likes him first, something like that at least.
I doubt he would spent a lot of time with her if he wasn't actually interested in her.

But who else could be the love interest? Leo is her brother (okay, that's not stopping anyrhing I suppose...) and what other male characters are there even?
@uselessDM Honestly, the prince having a rough personality is perfectly fine, he's just been getting away with murder. Scarlet gets visibly annoyed by his personality and some of the things he says, but then she folds like a lawn chair when he performs an abrupt physical display of affection. Whether ironic or not, she is painted more like the "toy" that the prince teases her as, the balance is completely off.
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Nov 1, 3:23 PM

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@uselessDM Honestly, the prince having a rough personality is perfectly fine, he's just been getting away with murder. Scarlet gets visibly annoyed by his personality and some of the things he says, but then she folds like a lawn chair when he performs an abrupt physical display of affection. Whether ironic or not, she is painted more like the "toy" that the prince teases her as, the balance is completely off.

I get what you mean, but the way I see it the tough woman persona she displays is also just a front she puts on and her actual persona is probably much closer to a normal girl/woman and hence I don't really have a problem with her being flustered when the prince shows her affection in that way.

I also think that she acts the way she does towards the prince because she wants to keep her distance to him, precisely because she knows that she does or at least could feel affection for the prince and she does want to stay somewhat professional towards him. And him acting like he is in love with her breaks that down momentarily.

Of course this is all knowing that this is a romance anime and that I want them to be together, so my opinion is biased, but that's how I see it anyway.
Nov 1, 3:29 PM

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@LostSpectre if she was that annoyed and hated it she could have easily avoided him entirely. Even he was Prince. But she plays along with it.

I like how people presume "this charcter must be hating it" when they actually don't.
@WaterMage The irony, when you clearly don't possess any media literacy skills. Did I say she hates him? The problem is that she's written as being too receptive to his affection, given his semi-rotten personality, and it just makes her look bad. Of course, if you're typically viewing female characters from the perspective of a cute "toy" for a male love interest, then I can understand the disconnect.
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Nov 1, 3:33 PM

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@uselessDM Honestly, the prince having a rough personality is perfectly fine, he's just been getting away with murder. Scarlet gets visibly annoyed by his personality and some of the things he says, but then she folds like a lawn chair when he performs an abrupt physical display of affection. Whether ironic or not, she is painted more like the "toy" that the prince teases her as, the balance is completely off.

I get what you mean, but the way I see it the tough woman persona she displays is also just a front she puts on and her actual persona is probably much closer to a normal girl/woman and hence I don't really have a problem with her being flustered when the prince shows her affection in that way.

I also think that she acts the way she does towards the prince because she wants to keep her distance to him, precisely because she knows that she does or at least could feel affection for the prince and she does want to stay somewhat professional towards him. And him acting like he is in love with her breaks that down momentarily.

Of course this is all knowing that this is a romance anime and that I want them to be together, so my opinion is biased, but that's how I see it anyway.
@uselessDM There's nothing wrong with her having a vulnerable side, I didn't mean to imply otherwise. The problem is that the prince is lowkey trash at this point lol, and she's too passive about it. I would love for there to be a cat and mouse game here, but right now she's written more like the toy, and that's not atypical for the medium by any stretch, but it is why some people find their whole dynamic off-putting. I mentioned it already, but I wonder if there's important context missing from her monologue, etc.
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@WaterMage The irony, when you clearly don't possess any media literacy skills. Did I say she hates him? The problem is that she's written as being too receptive to his affection, given his semi-rotten personality, and it just makes her look bad. Of course, if you're typically viewing female characters from the perspective of a cute "toy" for a male love interest, then I can understand the disconnect.
@LostSpectre ok Mr. Media literate how come you are judging a medival story from your 21st century perspective. And when tf I said Scarlett have to be a toy to be good. Putting words in others word is A way to win arguments.

"A semi rotten" people without him

- She would treated as slave
- Executed for beating up prince and nobles
- killed multiple times

All he does is "tease" him (scarlett's word as she describes it to Diana). If people have problem with these that's their narrow mind. I and many doesn't have that sort of mindset. Ofc I wouldn't mind if he gets punched for it.

And she gets flustered becz obviously she probably has hidden feelings for him. And so does Julius for her, he's just being a troll becz he is gets flustered probably. And that's why they still accompany each other after all his remarks.

But obviously it MAN problem as everything is to nowadays..
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Eventually, Prince Julius lets his feelings for Scarlet escape; they may form an eccentric couple in the future. Scarlet already showed she is able to defend herself...

Terenezza is the creepy one.
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Nov 1, 5:34 PM

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@LostSpectre ok Mr. Media literate how come you are judging a medival story from your 21st century perspective. And when tf I said Scarlett have to be a toy to be good. Putting words in others word is A way to win arguments.

"A semi rotten" people without him

- She would treated as slave
- Executed for beating up prince and nobles
- killed multiple times

All he does is "tease" him (scarlett's word as she describes it to Diana). If people have problem with these that's their narrow mind. I and many doesn't have that sort of mindset. Ofc I wouldn't mind if he gets punched for it.

And she gets flustered becz obviously she probably has hidden feelings for him. And so does Julius for her, he's just being a troll becz he is gets flustered probably. And that's why they still accompany each other after all his remarks.

But obviously it MAN problem as everything is to nowadays..
@WaterMage You're whining about shit that I never even brought up. I'm not the one who said he's a creep or a stalker, he's just too haughty and overbearing, so Scarlet comes off the worse in their exchanges, there's nothing interesting about them in any romantic context. Of course, I seem to have quickly forgotten she was basically tortured from the time she was a child, so it stands to reason she would be unfazed by Julius' mere over familiarity, but I digress.
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Nov 1, 6:09 PM

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@LostSpectre Yeah, this is a better explanation why it just feels so off to me. She crumbles when he creepily strokes her face, it feels overly vulnerable for a character they are trying to convince us is badass (especially for someone the story is going out of its way to say she isn't in a relationship with yet).
@broodwarjc Sadly, there's no WN translation past the first chapter, but that alone makes things much clearer to me. Remember, that she's been a victim of abuse since she was a child and has developed a cold exterior personality because of it. Often, it is only through her inner monologue that we see how she really feels, and when this is missing in anime form it can make their interactions feel awkward. When all we see is Scarlet's outward passivity toward his behavior, it tells the audience that even if he's toying (pushing boundaries) with her, it's romantically justified.
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it's literally a common trope in media targeted towards women

you guys are snowflakes
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it's literally a common trope in media targeted towards women

you guys are snowflakes
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There is resistance/persistence transforming into romance, but in this anime it is just not well written or shown. It is not being a snowflake to call out poor character development.
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Yeah Julius feels creepy and seeing how the other characters are, then Scarlet doesn't have too many worthy options available.
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@Saimatsu_Fan
There is resistance/persistence transforming into romance, but in this anime it is just not well written or shown. It is not being a snowflake to call out poor character development.

what poor character development ? you're just bitching that he's creepy lol
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Saimatsu_Fan said:
it's literally a common trope in media targeted towards women

you guys are snowflakes

Can't Argue With That 🤝
Nov 3, 1:16 AM
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Well...I Enjoy Him And His Teasings Cause I Love Scarlett's Reactions 😂 I Would Appreciate It If He Was More Open With His Real Feelings Towards Her Tho, Cause She's Definitely Not Picking Up On It, I Do Love Their Banter Tho
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He's basically the

"Stalker turn Lover"

Trope

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Which works great and has high success before modern time that invented Restraint Orders.

Since Forcing people to become lovers is what the old society (and still to an extend today) tends to do, especially with "arranged marriages" (which is literally the start of this series, lol)

This is the same concept why some people like "NTR".

.

There are other series with this, quite a bit too. Such as "Guild Receptionist" (where the dude stalks MC since the start and ends up being pretty much MC's lover). And this whole trend in anime is mostly popularized by "Mirai Nikki" (which is also a violent Yandere, especially with the girl's "head tilt" being a commonly used meme and concept for bunch of other series fanarts).

Similar eh? The "Stalker turn Lover" tends to have one of the pair be violent and loves to beat up stuff.

And the audience/ viewers ends up loving these weird and awkward stalker plots.
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Nothing Written Here But Us Anime Bunnies *boing boing boing*
Nov 5, 5:50 AM

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Julius is a massive troll, but creepy? - I don't think so.

Scarlet should've punched him a few times though, for sure. Episode 5 end in particular deserved a punch. It was a perfect romantic moment yet he ruined it with "my favorite - TOY". Made me wonder if he actually intends to marry her one day or not. He's going to kill all the chances with pranks gone too far.
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i don't think he's creepy, but he's arrogant and annoying so i'd like to see him being taken down a peg. i do love seeing those arrogant types suffer lol. which is why i liked watching him getting jealous of scarlet with that flirty guy (also annoying as hell, even more than julius, but at least he served that noble purpose) from episode 6.

julius is the typical guy that doesn't know how to express his feelings so he just annoys the person he likes. i can accept these types of characters as long as they grow out of this eventually and show a genuine vulnerable side to their loved ones.

also, i think he touches her inappropriately just because he can being a prince and all. also, because he want others to see him as a jerk. a defense mechanism and all that.

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