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this anime is cute and enjoyable and everything, but after episode 5 idk if i can keep watching anymore

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Oct 5, 10:05 PM
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it's not as simple as "if you don't like don't watch" because i really did like the first episodes, even though there was still drama and bad things happening in them

and there's a difference even with how mai basically tried to violate renako's consent, because at least she immediately realizes the problem and doesn't keep continuing to do the action through multiple episodes

but like, satsuki is mai's long time friend, and she's acting like manipulating her partner into cheating on her is some kind of silly haha petty revenge not something that would be soul crushing to a lot of people, and renako is even worse for being the person actually in the relationship and agreeing to it, and this action of cheating, of being in a relationship with someone else besides your partner without telling them, is gonna continue presumably through multiple episodes

presumably whatever happens all of the characters are gonna end up okay with everything that happened and not traumatized or anything, but these things are still wrong because the characters in story don't know they're in a universe where everyone is written that way

like i'd be more comfortable watching some show about an actual evil character cheating on their partner to hurt them because it's portrayed as wrong and evil, because even though that would probably also be unpleasant, at least i'm not being told or implied by author through the narrative that its some casual acceptable thing to do (or even if it's going to be called out in later episodes, it will be something like "oh haha renako you baka!")

really i'm just ranting because i think the only answer to this is just that i can't keep watching but it's sad cause it was cute
Oct 5, 10:40 PM
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Oh yeah Mai is easily my least favorite part of this show, the focus shifts away from her in the later episodes so I'd still suggest you to continue watching this if it isn't too much to ask

Edit: I can't really say much more since it'll delve into spoilers
Oct 5, 11:08 PM
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ReXiRa said:
Oh yeah Mai is easily my least favorite part of this show, the focus shifts away from her in the later episodes so I'd still suggest you to continue watching this if it isn't too much to ask

Edit: I can't really say much more since it'll delve into spoilers

I agree, OP should keep going, it’s only 12 episodes, then you can really form your opinion.
Oct 6, 12:10 AM
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as much as i agree with u, cheating culture in japan is normalized so much that the partners actually make agreements about it so ig thats how this anime is portrayed
Oct 6, 1:16 AM
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Same here. I dropped this show around ep 4 or 5 for the exact same reasons. The way Mai kept pushing her luck, thinking it was all rizz and not harassment or whatever. Also the way Renoke replied with that silly “I forgive you” in a later scene. It's irritated me even more

me and who?
Oct 6, 6:29 AM
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I don’t like cheating, but neither do I like violence, murder or many other elements of popular entertainment. But fortunately the stories are made up and the uncomfortable parts are plot points designed to steer the characters in the direction set out by the writer. Nobody was hurt or cucked in the making of this anime but the girls are ALL genuinely likeable and their actions fit well to their personalities and back stories. Everyone who has a villain element at the start gets explained later to some degree. It’s a shame to drop out and deny yourself a good conclusion.
Oct 6, 6:54 AM
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TENSHl said:
i'd be more comfortable watching some show about an actual evil character cheating on their partner to hurt them

If you are sure about that, then you should try to watch https://myanimelist.net/anime/3306/Aoki_Honoo 😂
*kappa*
Oct 6, 7:03 AM
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In my case I thought the same when I first read the manga, but I concluded thinking that there's no total black nor white, this show is full of greys in the end for me.
In the beginning Rena didn't set any kind of limit because she doesn't even know how to feel about Mai, neither how to respond and that late answer is kinda what made Mai just act that way. What I mean is that Rena wasn't clear enough, and she wasn't that decided about what she wants or expects of her.
It wasn't correct either for Mai to just assume and believe what Rena wanted, pushing her that way was just not correct.
None of them were correct and none of them were wrong either, I think of this show as the perspectives of each girl and think the way they would think in the position and situations they're going through.
Oct 6, 7:38 AM
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If you’re triggered by this then please stop watching/reading it. But the non serious title says this is a non serious watch / read which is just trying to push situations and relationships for comic effect. My view is there’s nothing to take too serious.
Oct 6, 11:05 AM
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FutoiOtaku said:
I don’t like cheating, but neither do I like violence, murder or many other elements of popular entertainment. But fortunately the stories are made up and the uncomfortable parts are plot points designed to steer the characters in the direction set out by the writer. Nobody was hurt or cucked in the making of this anime but the girls are ALL genuinely likeable and their actions fit well to their personalities and back stories. Everyone who has a villain element at the start gets explained later to some degree. It’s a shame to drop out and deny yourself a good conclusion.

It’s sad that this needs to be explained, but always glad to see you doing so.
Oct 6, 11:16 AM
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@Old_Greggu thanks for that, I just like to help point folks in the direction of anime enjoyment. That’s all it’s about really. No point anyone getting triggered. Every time I get a reply notification I feel stressed because there’s a significant chance of it being a scathing put down from some **** trying to prove their superior credentials in anime through the medium of hate.
BTW I’m drinking Baileys from a shoe right now.
Oct 6, 11:21 AM
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I think I know what you mean but without spoiling anything it's worth watching it to the end if you liked Rena, there are more interesting plot lines ahead.
Oct 6, 11:22 AM
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@FutoiOtaku

I know what you’re thinking, ‘Here comes Old Gregg, he’s a scaly man-fish.’ You don’t know me. You don’t know what I got. I got something to show ya. You know what that is? It’s Old Gregg’s vagina! I got a mangina! I’m Old Gregg!

Respect, fuzzy little man-peach.
Oct 6, 11:24 AM
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@FutoiOtaku

I know what you’re thinking, ‘Here comes Old Gregg, he’s a scaly man-fish.’ You don’t know me. You don’t know what I got. I got something to show ya. You know what that is? It’s Old Gregg’s vagina! I got a mangina! I’m Old Gregg!

Respect, fuzzy little man-peach.

I forgot that sketch on purpose! Thanks in advance for tonight’s nightmare
Oct 6, 11:35 AM
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FutoiOtaku said:
Old_Greggu said:
@FutoiOtaku

I know what you’re thinking, ‘Here comes Old Gregg, he’s a scaly man-fish.’ You don’t know me. You don’t know what I got. I got something to show ya. You know what that is? It’s Old Gregg’s vagina! I got a mangina! I’m Old Gregg!

Respect, fuzzy little man-peach.

I forgot that sketch on purpose! Thanks in advance for tonight’s nightmare

*head nod* Happy to obliged.
Oct 6, 12:00 PM
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Wow, this thread took an unexpected turn. Ollllld Greeeggggg!!
Oct 6, 12:05 PM
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I totally agree, it happened the same to me but the plot was interesting so I don't want to dropped it. Something that works for me was stop thinking about seeing a beautiful Yuri love story and start to say I want to see the biggest drama, and it works because that is what this anime is
Oct 6, 1:06 PM
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I agree that was a very rough patch. It does get better though.

And in Rena's defence she's fairly consistently stated that she just wants to be friends and not in a full exclusive relationship, despite moments of doubt.
Oct 6, 1:26 PM
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That makes a lot of sense. I too was uncomfortable with the things mentioned, however my enjoyment of the show was enough to make me want to keep watching. I’d say things don’t get that low again, unless I’m forgetting. Of course, whether or not you continue watching is up to you
Oct 6, 3:37 PM

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I mean I suppose it’s just personal preference really, I enjoy all the drama personally and while I like Ajisai I found her dull compared to the rest of the characters.

I don’t hate her but she’s just a bit more plain, she’s basically your typical romance protagonist where every other character has something generally more unique about them.

Particularly Rena and Mai stood out in that regard. The whole thing with Satsuki was a kinda weird plot line to delve into but I could put up with it personally.

And the thing with Rena and Mai in the earlier episodes I honestly loved. Seeing them act how they did and Mai eventually overstepping leading to Rena finally speaking up which obviously split them apart for a bit but they eventually work through it all and both come out a lot more mature. Or at least Mai mainly did.

That kind of stuff for me was so much more interesting since all that kinda romantic struggles is realistic.

Ajisai’s nice but she follows the typical romance formula imo. Again not that that’s bad but it’s just not as interesting.



Ranting aside I recommend to try stick through the episodes the whole situation does blow over
Oct 6, 8:33 PM
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TENSHl said:
it's not as simple as "if you don't like don't watch" because i really did like the first episodes, even though there was still drama and bad things happening in them

and there's a difference even with how mai basically tried to violate renako's consent, because at least she immediately realizes the problem and doesn't keep continuing to do the action through multiple episodes

but like, satsuki is mai's long time friend, and she's acting like manipulating her partner into cheating on her is some kind of silly haha petty revenge not something that would be soul crushing to a lot of people, and renako is even worse for being the person actually in the relationship and agreeing to it, and this action of cheating, of being in a relationship with someone else besides your partner without telling them, is gonna continue presumably through multiple episodes

presumably whatever happens all of the characters are gonna end up okay with everything that happened and not traumatized or anything, but these things are still wrong because the characters in story don't know they're in a universe where everyone is written that way

like i'd be more comfortable watching some show about an actual evil character cheating on their partner to hurt them because it's portrayed as wrong and evil, because even though that would probably also be unpleasant, at least i'm not being told or implied by author through the narrative that its some casual acceptable thing to do (or even if it's going to be called out in later episodes, it will be something like "oh haha renako you baka!")

really i'm just ranting because i think the only answer to this is just that i can't keep watching but it's sad cause it was cute

To be fair, it's not cheating because Mai and Renako aren't in a relationship. I do agree that Satsuki is a horrible friend and needs to be called out because Mai has been nothing but kind to her.
Oct 7, 6:38 AM
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@Royalty459 I think I might be misunderstanding the events. I thought they showed that Mai did something extremely unkind and soul crushing to Satsuki at the beginning of episode 5. And as they say, "Hurt people, hurt people." Mai was hurting and in trying to feel better hurt Satsuki and Satsuki having been hurt by her friend tried to hurt Mai in the way she knew how. Satsuki is dead wrong for that, but it's a little hard for me to say Mai was nothing but kind to Satsuki, right?
Oct 7, 6:52 AM
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@FutoiOtaku As someone who argues hard in the comment section, please don't be stressed by us. Most of us should have less real impact on your life than an anime you choose to drop. Just counter their arguments (or not If they make ones you think make sense), and if they devolve into insults, you know your arguments won the exchange.

If you find someone who is comment-section aggressive in real life, though, run the other way.
Oct 7, 7:21 AM
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TENSHl said:
at least i'm not being told or implied by author through the narrative that its some casual acceptable thing to do

I think this part is really important to remember. It's all orchestrated by an author. However, the lowest actions of a character within the narrative isn't necessarily the author's position or what they want you to take away. After all, they wrote all the actions, from the highest highs to the lowest low and everything in between. Cheering at the positive emotions the story evokes and grappling with the negative emotions the story evokes can be a really enjoyable part of watching anime, as well (despite the negative emotions).

Being able to do what you did here and put into words that "This action made me uncomfortable because..." and reaffirm your stance on a topic or even potentially change your stance on a topic is part of the beauty of art. It allows us to have these visceral emotional reactions and work through them in the safety of fake situations with no one's heart, safety, freedom, etc. actually on the line. And at the end, you can decide if that experience resulted in something you felt was on the whole (art, animation, sound, storytelling, pacing, lessons, arguments, high points, low points, tears, cheers, and everything else positive or negative), was something you enjoyed or or of value to you on a helpful scale of 1-10.

Of course, if the negative parts early on are so impactful or you don't believe they'll have a payoff (narratively or personally) that's worth going through them, you're well within reason to disengage with them. I watch an isekai many people really enjoy, but struggled with the torture it puts the protagonist through at the beginning. It's visually awful and detailed by the character. I was close to dropping, but finally started to see the value in the protagonist's growth. (Thankfully, they also, slowly reduced the suffering the protagonist goes through a little.) That one happened to work out for me, and based on how you described your feelings on the earlier episodes, I think you'll enjoy future ones of this show, but this arc you're in still has a few episodes to go. The payoff here was worth it for me and some others, but YMMV.
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Oct 7, 12:35 PM
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TENSHl said:
it's not as simple as "if you don't like don't watch" because i really did like the first episodes, even though there was still drama and bad things happening in them

and there's a difference even with how mai basically tried to violate renako's consent, because at least she immediately realizes the problem and doesn't keep continuing to do the action through multiple episodes

but like, satsuki is mai's long time friend, and she's acting like manipulating her partner into cheating on her is some kind of silly haha petty revenge not something that would be soul crushing to a lot of people, and renako is even worse for being the person actually in the relationship and agreeing to it, and this action of cheating, of being in a relationship with someone else besides your partner without telling them, is gonna continue presumably through multiple episodes

presumably whatever happens all of the characters are gonna end up okay with everything that happened and not traumatized or anything, but these things are still wrong because the characters in story don't know they're in a universe where everyone is written that way

like i'd be more comfortable watching some show about an actual evil character cheating on their partner to hurt them because it's portrayed as wrong and evil, because even though that would probably also be unpleasant, at least i'm not being told or implied by author through the narrative that its some casual acceptable thing to do (or even if it's going to be called out in later episodes, it will be something like "oh haha renako you baka!")

really i'm just ranting because i think the only answer to this is just that i can't keep watching but it's sad cause it was cute

To be fair, it's not cheating because Mai and Renako aren't in a relationship. I do agree that Satsuki is a horrible friend and needs to be called out because Mai has been nothing but kind to her.
@Royalty459 i think i originally misinterpreted or remembered wrong the end of episode 4, they definitely both agreed that they weren't in a relationship anymore, just that they will be rena friends and mai will still try to make it a relationship eventually

it does make this like 90% less bad honestly, it's still like kinda mean to start dating someone else in that kind of situation and not tell the person, but it goes from completely immoral to a little inconsiderate

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