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Ineffa beta v3 is out, and she seems more or less done, considering very little about her was changed from v0.



Ineffa TL;DR:

She's a sub-DPS that converts Electro-Charged to a new reaction called Lunar-Charged. This reaction, unlike EC, scales with EM and crit of every Hydro/Electro character in the team combined, assuming they contributed to the reaction.

Damage-wise, she's closer to Escargot than Chiori and Emillie, while also providing a shield. Unlike Nescafe, however, she doesn't buff, she just does damage.
And yes, Ineffa is yet another Neuv buff. As well as a Varesa/Clorinde/Raiden buff.
Except for Varesa and Neuv, Ineffa is likely to outdamage your Hydro/Electro carry at the same con level.

To put a number to the claim, Clorinde/Ineffa/Yelan/Kazuha is a 20~25% increase over Clorinde/Chevy/Fischl/Thoma.

My opinion:

Every once in a while, Genshin releases a character that truly excites me and revitalizes me interest in the meta. The last 2 characters that managed to do this were Chevy and Coffee. Skirk was the opposite of that, despite how powerful she is.

Ineffa, however, is a weird case because she should excite me greatly, on paper. A new reaction and a straight-up buff to so many Hydro and Electro characters and all, but... she's ends being kinda boring. Her exciting mechanics end up just being a damage buff. She ends up being a midway between Chevy and Skirk, in terms of excitement for me.

There's also the elephant in the room. The main mechanic of Nod-Krai, like Natlan's Nightsoul, will be the Lunar reactions. If the Nod-Krai are designed similarly to Ineffa, expect Lunar variations creating new "exclusive" teams that are likely to leave even more older characters behind.

Oh well, I'll take my Clorinde buff for now. Ineffa having a shield kinda makes Clorinde's C2 obsolete in a way, so she's a 2 in 1 summon for any Clorinde/Raiden fan. She also loves Staff of Scarlet Sands, which is a huge plus specifically for my account.

She also shortens Clorinde's rotation, which was a much-needed QoL thanks to Clorinde's awkward 7.5s skill duration and Thoma's painful 21s burst cooldown. Now her rotations will flow as smoothly as can be.



ShinsoPriest said:
Cool trailer, now make sure you whale for him, don't think about how he'll be powercreeped later

Funny thing is, Genshin is probably getting there with Nod-Krai, if Natlan is anything to go by.
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astroprogs said:
ShinsoPriest said:
Cool trailer, now make sure you whale for him, don't think about how he'll be powercreeped later


Funny thing is, Genshin is probably getting there with Nod-Krai, if Natlan is anything to go by.

I don't know, pretty sure casuals can still tackle everything with just 1.0 character team of Bennett/Xiangling/Fischl/Sucrose without much issue. Just ignore Abyss and Stygian Bait since that's for try hards. Can't say the same for HSR.

Speaking of this new reaction and Nod Krai, I'm hoping the Bennett tease is hinting at a new buffed 5* Bennett.
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Yes, this is C0 Ineffa outdamaging C4 Raiden...

And since LC can be considered a part of Ineffa's damage profile, C0 Ineffa is also outdamaging C2R1 Yelan...

"There's no powercreep in Ba Sing Se."

ShinsoPriest said:
I don't know, pretty sure casuals can still tackle everything with just 1.0 character team of Bennett/Xiangling/Fischl/Sucrose without much issue. Just ignore Abyss and Stygian Bait since that's for try hards. Can't say the same for HSR.

But that's the same as HSR, if I understand correctly. Just like Genshin, story and events are very easy in HSR. It's the endgame that shows the sharp HP inflation to incentivize the new characters.

Maybe @Kaiser-chan will correct me if I'm wrong, as someone who actually plays HSR.

ShinsoPriest said:
Speaking of this new reaction and Nod Krai, I'm hoping the Bennett tease is hinting at a new buffed 5* Bennett.

I find it hilarious that amidst the rampant powercreep in Natlan, and when they wanted to create an overtuned ATK buffer for the new busted characters, they ended up creating a unit that's still inferior to Bennett lmao
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Yeah, it's Hoyogame. They are all the same, in term of endgames. Don't fix what's not broken.

Jun 30, 8:39 PM

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Can finally preload on SEA



What did they put in this game to make it so big?

Jun 30, 9:12 PM

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The Subway Slammer apparently

Jun 30, 11:14 PM

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> The Subway Slammer apparently

I've always kinda wondered which is worse, P5's writing or the average gacha's.

Turns out, you don't gotta compare two bad bitches. You can always go lower.



And the memes are hilarious

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Sooooo... apparently the region lock is on the client-side (Steam/Google Play) and not server-side.

So if you get your hands somehow on the launcher, you can download and play the game just fine, since the server itself doesn't check for your location lol

Jul 1, 7:10 AM

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Sus leak but if it's true I'll join Wuwa just for Rebecca.
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Adam Smasher weekly boss so we can smash him again and again?

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Totally not inspired by Evangelion



CBT2 starts in a couple days
Jul 1, 11:35 PM

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Oh Gura is bac- I mean this new Vtuber sounds very familiar

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Never bothered subbing to the reincarnations. Dooby, Nimi, Ruka. It's not the same really.
And especially with this one. It's all over the place that it's hard not to see it. I still don't like Gura and will continue to resent her for getting ahead of Korone in reaching 1M subs.
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I'm super casual when it comes to this, I don't regularly watch vtubers besides Gura once in a blue moon, so seeing her come back is nice. Reaching 1M subs in 3 days is crazy though, and I just found out we share the same birthday so now I feel a strange connection. I know Korone is the doggy vtuber, was never really into that one. There's also that one rabbit vtuber whose mom recently got some spotlight, but I forget her name lol
Jul 2, 10:24 PM

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The Akasha Skirk Leaderboards are out.



ShinsoPriest said:
There's also that one rabbit vtuber whose mom recently got some spotlight, but I forget her name lol

You don't just disrespect Kojima's oomfie like that, bro...



MFer made Norman Reedus say "Peko" at every action.

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The face of a woman who desperately wants people more normal to talk to.

Jul 3, 4:32 PM

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Damn I really need some ATK substats. My crit rolls are similar but having only a single 15% ATK substat leaves me at a 44% percentile with my Skirk

Jul 3, 6:18 PM

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Try going with ATK Goblet like astro if you don't have enough ATK substats
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Yup, ATK and Cryo Goblets are pretty close, so substats will be the deciding factor for which is better for your Skirk.

Though in my case, I have C2 Furina who gives a crap ton of DMG%, so ATK% is just a lot more likely to be better in my specific scenario.
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Damn
https://x.com/animecorner_ac/status/1940973843545252004
Gigguk was a mistake after all



Also p5x is pretty fun

Shocker not starting your game where your mc is inimplicitiy public enemy no 1 everyone hates trust is better
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Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Jul 4, 12:47 AM

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literally that one meme skit youtubers love to make vids about
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Jul 4, 3:47 AM

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bro
persona gacha somehow has a wrose weapon pity than genshins
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/885095340418686998/1390644248142942379/Screenshot_2025-07-04-18-09-12-79_a78f5ab2b8046b5b25d9c3e3e402d509.jpg?ex=686901e1&is=6867b061&hm=2fda9d248c6fac2b9d1a15f061c45195c2e2d906cbb347476dd09819612fb627&
holy

its 100 per pull instead of 150 but u get weapon ex currency sometimes but also
THIS shit
3 way 50%
holy
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
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Jul 4, 9:42 AM

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Gay Bulge solos DBZ

Jul 5, 8:03 AM

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NTE CBT2 impressions are starting to come out.



I don't understand, how does this game look both pretty flashy and incredibly cheap at the same time?


Bro is living his best life.

Look me in the eyes and tell me you wouldn't want to create an anime about the mythology of your country with some (non-blood related, surely) incest on top.
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astroprogs said:
NTE CBT2 impressions are starting to come out.



I don't understand, how does this game look both pretty flashy and incredibly cheap at the same time?

Tower of Fantasy is the same too, very cool concepts but really cheap looking. I guess that's just how Hotta Studios does things.
Jul 5, 6:30 PM

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"Male character don't sell"



No top reset and Fate's banner hasn't even started yet.

Jul 5, 6:38 PM
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"Male character don't sell"



No top reset and Fate's banner hasn't even started yet.
Males
Cringe
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
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Oh hey, I have internet outage in my entire city. Fun.

I had to refresh this page on and off for 3 hours just to be able to post this.

EDIT: Imagine finally having a stable internet, to be hit instantly with the news of my girl getting gutted.

Ineffa had a huge 10~15% nerf to her personal damage. This translates to 3~7% nerf to team DPS.

So, what does that mean for the Hydro/Electro characters she supports?

Well, she's no longer the undisputed BiS to Neuv anymore, now she's as good as Coffee.

For Raiden/Clorinde, she's still a buff, just a bit less now.

Today was a sad day...

EDIT 2: *sigh*



Better not get nerfed again...



SoSS is skewing my stats far into EM which makes the stat lines look bad, but with Ineffa's crit ascension + SoSS's EM>ATK conversion, she actually looks like a 5*.
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3 day Countdown Illustration to the Honkai: Star Rail × Fate [UBW] collaboration event ft. '86: Eighty-six' illustrator Shirabii



Better take place in Moon Cell or else




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Mfw
https://www.reddit.com/r/personaphantomx/comments/1lqb8wl/comment/n11fk7a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


This fgo ass ripoff

7 singularity/palaces

Fckinh ew
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Got C6 Iansan.



All that just to shave 1 second from Stygian Onslaught Tulpa from 31 down to 30 seconds after replacing Zhongli. Yay...



Oh and I ended up with C2 Emilie, don't even know what to do with her tbh.
Jul 8, 9:19 PM

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The plot thickens

Jul 8, 9:59 PM

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Phanes is gonna end up being Kevin/Phainon's expy for sure.

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so yea paimon:tm: is asmodeus

thx shaoji
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I've been checked out of lore for a while.

Are these basically the Honkai or Emanator equivalents in this universe?

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I've been checked out of lore for a while.

Are these basically the Honkai or Emanator equivalents in this universe?
@-Sherou- theyre the 4(picutred 3 cause)
shades of celestia yes
basically the final boss strongest god 2nd to PO himself

one of them is the EYE in natlan
other is the time god that helped ei in her SQ 2

last one created first hydro archon

andn ot pictured is kiana ripoff who seperated the mcs when they were at full pwoer so
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I'm actually incredibly surprised they did this.

Hinting at the appearance of one of the shades is one thing, but actually FULLY showing THREE of them feels like endgame type shit for the story.

They even did it before the freaking Cryo Archon...

Mei-o_Scarlett said:
so yea paimon:tm: is asmodeus

They're certainly hinting at it, aren't they.

Would be pretty funny if this was just a red herring tho lol

-Sherou- said:
I've been checked out of lore for a while.

Are these basically the Honkai or Emanator equivalents in this universe?

Quick rundown:

Phanes AKA The Primordial One.
Guy came to Teyvat, found it filled with dragons. Wiped them out. Put humanity on it instead. Called it Teyvat (or Ark).
Then created 4 beings that are an extent of his powers. These are called the Four Shades of Phanes.
All 5 of them are what is called The Heavenly Principles.
Once Phanes killed the strongest dragons (AKA the Dragon Sovereigns), he converted their powers into Gnosis, and gave them to the powerful being now known as Archons. This is why Neuv hates their guts.

They're represented by the 5 Artifacts pieces.
Naberius, the Shade of Life, is represented by the Flower piece.
Ronova, the Shade of Death, is represented by the Feather piece.
Istaroth, the Shade of Time/Eons, is represented by the Sands piece.
Asmoday, the Shade of Space, is represented by the Goblet piece.
Finally, Phanes is the Circlet piece.

Istaroth gave Ei and Makoto the tree of Inazuma (that time paradox to defend it after the cataclysm) and saved the oldest Teyvat civilization by creating Enkanomiya.
Istaroth is theorized to be the creator of Venti and the original god of Mondstadt.

Ronova is the one that cursed all the Khaenri'ahns and turned them into immortal Hilichurls.
Ronova helped stabilize Natlan after the cataclysm by establishing the Night Kingdom and the seat of the Pyro Archon.
Ronova made a deal to help Mavuika against the abyss at the price of Mavuika's life after the deal is fulfilled. Capitano took Mavuika's place at the end of Natlan's Archon Quest.

Both Istaroth and Ronova have been foreshadowd very early in the game.



Naberius created Egeria, the creator of Focalors/Furina, to be the new heart of the Primordial Sea after the cataclysm.
Rhinedottr AKA Gold, the mother and creator of Albedo, ate their heart and fused with them.

Asmoday is the Sustainer, the one with the cubes power who fought the siblings at the intro of the game.

So yeah, these guys can manipulate the fabric of reality, including time and causality, at least within Teyvat.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/personaphantomx/comments/1lnt17q/in_a_deleted_twitter_post_yusuke_nitta_revealed/

Nice glad to know p5 writer is the type of schizo egomaniac I'll hate


Bro wrote p5 which had an insanely over the top beginning of yea bro everyone just hates MC bro wake up Japan but then suddenly not a problem once the teacher is gone trust

And think thats good writing
Not yo mention the shitty adult bad themes

https://www.reddit.com/r/personaphantomx/comments/1lnt17q/in_a_deleted_twitter_post_yusuke_nitta_revealed/

But bro thinks a low stake but actually make sense plot is stupid and fired thw writer lol



Imagine if fcking nasu did that the shitstorm will be insane



Yea we saw and even i admit sakuria was horrible with septem and prototype so we fired her and shamed her in public


Fcking amazing
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Did he? I thought P5 was cowritten by Hashino and Yamamoto, not this guy. This guy came later for Strikers and Tactica.

I haven't meaningfully played any of the games he was the lead writer for, so I can't criticize his body of work, but I thought P5X's beginning was so widely hated, that Atlus had to step in and changed the writers.

I don't know how the game's story carries on after the first few chapters, but honestly... yeah, I'd also fire the guy who thought this was good enough:


But hey, I'd also fire a lot of P5's OG team while I'm at it, so what do I know.

ShinsoPriest said:
Oh and I ended up with C2 Emilie, don't even know what to do with her tbh.

She's great for all the 2 bosses hoyo is being a dick about in SO, Lava Dragon in v5.7 and Papilla in v5.8. Otherwise, she makes for a fine cup coaster.

Maybe she'll have more teams in the future, but for now, she's both incredibly niche and highly susceptible to powercreep because all she does is damage.

We haven't even started Nod-Krai, and we've already gotten a Fischl/Yae powercreep, Ineffa, who can do more damage than both AND have a shield.

The standard for sub-DPS is just vastly different now from how it was pre-Natlan. Emilie and Chiori are expected to dip in value even more when their Lunar counterparts are out.
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Mean yea even if it'd bad
Again

Imagine if nasu did something like this outright
And went on Twitter and shat on sakurai and said they got fired and no longer working for her horrible writing in Septem

I mean that's why tweet was deleted but damn

Also yea the antag was bad but I didn't wanna kill myself from the game besting u over the head omg mc is soooooo bad kid everyone afraid of him uwu which they magically forget about


At least here I can laugh at how stupid the no one fcking does anything to a guy that is shoving ppl because le sheeples
Much more believable in an anime context and not some mari okada bullshit


But yes can tell the writer changed because I saw the plot twist for palace 3 and damn

3 is also when the main villain first mamed their voiced cameo so ofc
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Even in trailer, Lancer still dies.

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The Persona 6 website domain has been renewed ahead of time.



Mei-o_Scarlett said:
Mean yea even if it'd bad
Again

Imagine if nasu did something like this outright
And went on Twitter and shat on sakurai and said they got fired and no longer working for her horrible writing in Septem

I mean that's why tweet was deleted but damn

Haha yeah, that's not a good look, especially in JP dev circles where they try to avoid criticizing another colleague as much as possible.

Mei-o_Scarlett said:
At least here I can laugh at how stupid the no one fcking does anything to a guy that is shoving ppl because le sheeples

To be fair, that's a pretty lazy plot point as well. The writer basically wants to justify whatever bullshit they pull out of their ass, so they're making the public selectively not care about what they don't want to bother writing about.

Not saying that the writing in P5 is leagues better or anything, but P5X is not making its case either.

Kaiser-chan said:
Even in trailer, Lancer still dies.

Well, they're certainly not half-assing it, so kudos for that. Not enough to get to play the game, especially when the route's deuteragonist herself isn't there, but I appreciate the effort.

Also, as a non-HSR player, can I just say that I appreciate Sparkle? That's all.
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tldr
stop writing plot about le evil menace to society taht needs to have the collective iq of the public be room tempurture

we get it
le society bad

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anyways damn theres artifact farming in this
fcking CHINA

well still better than uma/GBF/shadowverse grind
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