| I think bleach had amazing writing and character development and it isnt talked ab enough |
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Reply to ExternalWorld
I completely agree with you that Bleach has amazing writing and character development, but I think there are a few reasons why some people might not enjoy it or might not have finished it. Firstly, the anime's pacing can be quite slow and uneven at times, which can make it hard to keep up with the story. Additionally, the filler arcs can be quite frustrating, especially if you're invested in the main storyline.
Another reason people might not like Bleach is that the characters can be quite one-dimensional at times. While some characters like Ichigo and Rukia have really compelling backstories, others like Orihime and Yasutora can feel a bit flat and lack depth.
Furthermore, some fans might not appreciate the anime's reliance on tropes and clichés. The "chosen hero" storyline, the "evil organization" villain, and the "hero's journey" arc can feel a bit overused and predictable.
Lastly, I think some fans might be put off by the anime's lack of consistency in terms of its tone and themes. At times, Bleach can be very serious and dark, while at other times it can be quite lighthearted and humorous. This can make it hard to get invested in the story.
However, I do agree that Bleach has some amazing writing and character development, especially when it comes to its portrayal of themes like friendship, sacrifice, and redemption. The relationships between the characters are often really well-developed and emotionally resonant, and the anime's exploration of its world and mythology is often fascinating.
Ultimately, I think Bleach is a bit of a polarizing anime, with some people loving it for its unique blend of action, drama, and fantasy elements, while others might find it too slow or predictable. But for those who do enjoy it, it's definitely an anime that rewards close attention and dedication.
Another reason people might not like Bleach is that the characters can be quite one-dimensional at times. While some characters like Ichigo and Rukia have really compelling backstories, others like Orihime and Yasutora can feel a bit flat and lack depth.
Furthermore, some fans might not appreciate the anime's reliance on tropes and clichés. The "chosen hero" storyline, the "evil organization" villain, and the "hero's journey" arc can feel a bit overused and predictable.
Lastly, I think some fans might be put off by the anime's lack of consistency in terms of its tone and themes. At times, Bleach can be very serious and dark, while at other times it can be quite lighthearted and humorous. This can make it hard to get invested in the story.
However, I do agree that Bleach has some amazing writing and character development, especially when it comes to its portrayal of themes like friendship, sacrifice, and redemption. The relationships between the characters are often really well-developed and emotionally resonant, and the anime's exploration of its world and mythology is often fascinating.
Ultimately, I think Bleach is a bit of a polarizing anime, with some people loving it for its unique blend of action, drama, and fantasy elements, while others might find it too slow or predictable. But for those who do enjoy it, it's definitely an anime that rewards close attention and dedication.
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Reply to Volkose
as much as I love Bleach, I can't deny that it has flaws. They are in the plot, for many people this can be a big reason not to like it. Although I also noticed these flaws, I still liked Bleach. It is wonderful the style of the characters, the combat properties of the characters, the construction of the world and the music. I think that if someone helped Kubo with the written manga, and specifically with the plot, then maybe there would not be so many haters
| @Volkos94 I think that the hueco mundo arc and TYBW was where kubo started taking it up a notch tbf, he also stated he wished that he had done alot different, and hopefully this will apply with the |
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NessieMAL said: I think bleach had amazing writing and character development and it isnt talked ab enough Because bleach isn’t well written and actually kinda mid thats why. Characters are good. |
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Reply to Cyrose
NessieMAL said:
I think bleach had amazing writing and character development and it isnt talked ab enough
I think bleach had amazing writing and character development and it isnt talked ab enough
Because bleach isn’t well written and actually kinda mid thats why. Characters are good.
| @Cyrose You can't just throw out the word mid with no reason behind it, Bleach was well written and it shows off in the hueco mundo arc all the way up until the end, the beginning wasn't supposed to explain everything to you off the bat, there was many things Ichigo didn't even know about himself until the Fake Karakura Town arc that were crucial to the story. The only thing mid that would make sense is the pace of the story changing a lot but after the the hueco mundo arc was coming to a close it started to be way more consistent, Bleach isn't Naruto where a lot of things are explained and you can just sit there and understand everything, you have to pay attention. with the last remark, I totally agree they all had very good writing behind them. |
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Reply to Axaban
I don’t really understand where you’re coming from? Bleach is one of the big 3 due to it being one of the most influential shonen series during the 2000s. Not only that but its new continuation (TYBW) was ranked number 1 on MAL for a while and currently shifts in and out of the top 10. I definitely wouldn’t define it as underrated. It’s certainly talked about more than most ~20 year old series.
| @Axaban sadly the only time its massively talked about and credited is when someone brings it up in a argument or a big conversation, One piece and Naruto are way more talked about and its not even close, Bleach deserves alot more recognition that what it gets but people like easy to understand anime more like Naruto or One piece where everything is thoroughly explained instead of being things that get revealed late or barely covered. Bleach has amazing writing and its not like I havent tried OP or Naruto, I tried both first and never could get with it, Bleach on the other hand was the shine of light in the dark room to me. |
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Reply to paomiau90
I honestly believe it's the excess of non canon episodes... I don't mind them, but I do know a bunch of people who stopped due to these episodes.
| @paomiau90 there is alot of non canon episodes but I mean you can also just skip it lol |
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| Fillers may be the main problem or new fans are just used to 12 episodes format. |
Reply to Shinpei106
Cuz it's mid 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
| @Shinpei106 not an answer, I may be mistaken but I don't see any evidence of you proving to me how its mid, also if its so mid why did u rate tybw and the original series a 9? hmmm idk man sounds like you don't know what ur saying. 🥱 |
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Reply to Vampire_Lord
Fillers may be the main problem or new fans are just used to 12 episodes format.
| @Vampire_Lord probably that and most people don't want to take the time to pay attention to detail instead of everything being explained to them. |
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Reply to Thk9225
Probably slow pacing in starting arcs, too many fillers and animation issues (og series).
| @Thk9225 tbf slow pacing arcs in the beginning are very popular things that other big animes have but people don't complain. Fillers is odd too when you consider OP have 94 and Naruto having 90 with shippuden having 200+. animation issues is not much of an answer, the only thing that would make sense is the style. |
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| It just feels like a fight simulator similar to demon slayer even if it's marginally better. Kubo just introduces characters then tosses them in the trash when they finish fighting. Very little long term story telling relative to how long it is so it just doesn't feel as fulfilling as better things. Nothing about it is really awful, but not being bad doesn't mean it's amazing it means it's just kind of good for what it is |
| my reason is that for me bleach its a story driven mostly by its action, the battles tend to push the plot forward most of the times, which for me its really boring. I find really boring having to watch 10 eps straight of just fighting or battles. So when i am bored, its hard to pay attention on the good things of the anime. |
| cuz they don't wanna admit to themselves that Bleach is by far the best show out of the big 3 |
| Obviously, why would I watch Blitch if I watched Naruto as a child? I think these anime are quite similar in concept to each other and there is no point in watching |
| @_avis someone didnt see tybw |
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Reply to Tulleha
there's only 4 arcs in the og bro
| @Tulleha uhh no? 1 Agent of the Shinigami Arc 1- 20 2 Soul Society: The Sneak Entry Arc 21 - 41 3 Soul Society: The Rescue Arc 42 - 63 4 Arrancar: The Arrival Arc 110 - 131 5 Arrancar: The Hueco Mundo Sneak Entry Arc 132 - 151 6 Arrancar: The Fierce Fight Arc 152 - 167 7 Arrancar vs. Shinigami Arc 190 - 205 8 The Past Arc 206 - 212 9 Arrancar: Decisive Battle of Karakura Arc 213 - 229 10 Arrancar: Downfall Arc 266 - 316 11 The Lost Substitute Shinigami Arc 343 - 366 |
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| I actually like Bleach quite a bit but it's on my hold list after 80 episodes. I decided I wanted to give the show a shot front to back watching all of the filler. I made it about half way through the Bounts and I had to stop. I'm weirdly motivated to watch every episode an anime has to offer. I did that to myself lol. If I was watching weekly it would've been a different story, but watching all of these years later it is truly like being stuck in the mud. I'll come back to it eventually and watch it all, but I just don't have that in me right now. |
| One of the reasons is probably due to the filler arcs, not to mention that the show itself is hundreds of episodes long. |
| As for me i think the characters or story not fun enough. I watch bleach just until ichigo winning battle with rukia's brother. I don't have any problem watching one piece including with the filler so i doubt the pace is the problem. The story and interraction also more fun. While in bleach... Idk i feels like too serious and everytime just about male char parts that get screen time unlike in one piece where both robin and nami get screen time and both of them also funny with their personality. In bleach case i like inoue but i heard people hate her. |
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| In anything, you can't expect every person to enjoy what you like, and it cannot be generalised to everyone based on that selected group. Personally I have watched and read the series, and I enjoyed it. If someone says he/she like it, then we share the same sentiment. If another person says no, he does not like it. Then it's fine too. Let's hear about the whys - like, dislike, or neutral. |
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Reply to Tulleha
NessieMAL said:
@Tulleha uhh no?
1 Agent of the Shinigami Arc 1- 20
2 Soul Society: The Sneak Entry Arc 21 - 41
3 Soul Society: The Rescue Arc 42 - 63
4 Arrancar: The Arrival Arc 110 - 131
5 Arrancar: The Hueco Mundo Sneak Entry Arc 132 - 151
6 Arrancar: The Fierce Fight Arc 152 - 167
7 Arrancar vs. Shinigami Arc 190 - 205
8 The Past Arc 206 - 212
9 Arrancar: Decisive Battle of Karakura Arc 213 - 229
10 Arrancar: Downfall Arc 266 - 316
11 The Lost Substitute Shinigami Arc 343 - 366
@Tulleha uhh no?
1 Agent of the Shinigami Arc 1- 20
2 Soul Society: The Sneak Entry Arc 21 - 41
3 Soul Society: The Rescue Arc 42 - 63
4 Arrancar: The Arrival Arc 110 - 131
5 Arrancar: The Hueco Mundo Sneak Entry Arc 132 - 151
6 Arrancar: The Fierce Fight Arc 152 - 167
7 Arrancar vs. Shinigami Arc 190 - 205
8 The Past Arc 206 - 212
9 Arrancar: Decisive Battle of Karakura Arc 213 - 229
10 Arrancar: Downfall Arc 266 - 316
11 The Lost Substitute Shinigami Arc 343 - 366
bro first of all you added all the filler arcs which no one is going to watch
and secondly your breaking down the main arcs into smaller arcs. here's the actual list imo
1. Soul society arc
2. Arrancar arc
3. fullbringer arc
4. tybw arc
| @Tulleha nope those aren't filler i literally removed all of the filler ones out u might be slow |
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