I Got a Cheat Skill in Another World and Became Unrivaled in The Real World, Too (light novel)
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Mar 30, 3:34 PM
#51
Tybaby51 said: _otaku_man00 said: yeah ,I have and i will give 7 / 10 because I like isekai stuff. me too. i’m just a sucker for isekai, good bad, i pretty much like em all well ,.same bro, i don't know maybe they are my weakness, even if isekai uses same troupe again and again i will never get bored like , i reincarnated with my smart phone,i really like it. |
Apr 1, 6:41 AM
#52
sekaistar said: I’m usually a fan of isekai but this one just sucked. The first episode got me kinda hyped, then it fell apart so quickly. Like, there was either no consistent plot (either that or it was too all over the place to follow) and not even in the ‘Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon Maid’ or ‘Dropkick on my Devil’ way. It was also just super cringe for most of it. in all fairness, kobyashi is a slice of life |
Apr 1, 6:43 AM
#53
namazuFish said: sekaistar said: I’m usually a fan of isekai but this one just sucked. The first episode got me kinda hyped, then it fell apart so quickly. Like, there was either no consistent plot (either that or it was too all over the place to follow) and not even in the ‘Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon Maid’ or ‘Dropkick on my Devil’ way. It was also just super cringe for most of it. in all fairness, kobyashi is a slice of life Yeah, fair point. I think my point still stands though. You can make a show work without a central plot is what I was trying to say. Even though it’s usually not done in isekai, it’s possible. |
Apr 1, 6:48 AM
#54
Reply to sekaii-of-starz
namazuFish said:
in all fairness, kobyashi is a slice of life
sekaistar said:
I’m usually a fan of isekai but this one just sucked. The first episode got me kinda hyped, then it fell apart so quickly. Like, there was either no consistent plot (either that or it was too all over the place to follow) and not even in the ‘Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon Maid’ or ‘Dropkick on my Devil’ way. It was also just super cringe for most of it.
I’m usually a fan of isekai but this one just sucked. The first episode got me kinda hyped, then it fell apart so quickly. Like, there was either no consistent plot (either that or it was too all over the place to follow) and not even in the ‘Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon Maid’ or ‘Dropkick on my Devil’ way. It was also just super cringe for most of it.
in all fairness, kobyashi is a slice of life
Yeah, fair point. I think my point still stands though. You can make a show work without a central plot is what I was trying to say. Even though it’s usually not done in isekai, it’s possible.
@sekaistar still agree w u tho lol |
Apr 1, 7:40 PM
#55
verbinflection said: You can find positive reviews here. I recommended it (8/10), and my review is here. Apart from that, I would just say that you need a certain degree of literacy to get the most out of a work of fiction. A cat can look at the screen and see the bright lights and hear the loud noises, but it can't get much more out of an anime than that. Let's all try to do better than a cat. the lack of a legitimate story A story is a sequence of events. When you add causation, you get a plot. " 'The king died and then the queen died,' is a story. 'The king died, and then the queen died of grief' is a plot" (E. M. Forster, Aspects of the Novel). Therefore, Isekai Cheat Skill has a story and a plot. essentially nothing happened A high school student finds a portal to another world and acquires extraordinary power that changes his life profoundly. A motorcycle gang attacks a school. An assassin attacks a princess. Two people go on a date. More than two people propose marriage. Does any of that sound familiar? Did you watch the show? the main character… experienced absolutely no development In multiple scenes over multiple episodes, he either thinks back on an experience from the fantasy world and uses it to overcome obstacles, such as self-doubt, in the regular world, or thinks back on an experience from the regular world and uses it overcome obstacles, such as goblins, in the fantasy world. Most people would want some sort of inner conflict. "Why did I get this", "I don't deserve this". That's exactly what happens in the show. It happens over and over again, in episode after episode. It happens immediately after he acquires his power. It happens in the climax of the final episode. It is the main theme of the show. It's even implied in the title. Suddenly, he's really hot and pulls all these girls, but what was the significance of that to the plot? First of all, it allows for scenes of light-hearted comedy where Yuuya's low self-esteem and social anxiety lead him to expect something bad to happen, but it is revealed to the audience, through other characters' internal monologues, that something good is about to happen instead. Second of all, it is revealing of Yuuya's character when he struggles to accept praise, or when he chooses not to exploit people using his overpowered abilities. You asked for internal conflict: here it is, with a side of light romantic comedy. I wouldn't usually stoop to this level of analysis, but here we are. Have you ever seen a sitcom? the linear and dense characters If it takes the form of a straight line, it's linear; if it packs a lot of substance into a small volume, it's dense; if it lacks depth, it's flat or two-dimensional, and if it also lacks breadth, it's one-dimensional, which also happens to be the form of a straight line. Characters can be described as one- or two-dimensional; plots can be linear; and various things can be literally or figuratively dense; but it doesn't really mean anything for a character to be "linear and dense," so I don't know that you understand your own complaint. Now, in a comedy, it's not unusual for some characters to be oblivious to other characters' feelings, particularly romantic feelings, and in that sense Yuuya might be considered dense, but again, this is hardly a problem in a comedy. If you were looking for depth in a character, Kaori is an obvious example. On the surface, Kaori has it all: she's attractive and popular; she does well in school; her family is supportive and well-off. However, Kaori is also isolated by her superficially positive traits: she tells Yuuya as much in episode two, and we see in multiple scenes over multiple episodes that other people are intimidated by her and won't approach her, or they assign an uncomfortable level of elegance and brilliance to everything she says and does. And yet, through scenes of light comedy, it becomes clear to the audience that Kaori is actually a huge dork, which is not just a funny juxtaposition: in light of her awkward, dorky nature, it is highly significant that Kaori never judges people based on their own superficial traits, which is taken to a comic extreme when she fails to notice that Yuuya's appearance has completely changed overnight. I could go on. I'm curious if I looked at it from the wrong perspective, or if I missed things in the story. Yes. Well written. I’m trying to respond to each of the replies to my post, but to be honest with you, I hardly remember anything from this show at this point. I do however disagree with you. That said, I think that there is merit to what you said, despite my lack of memory. Looking at all these replies, I think it’s a matter of perspective. For me, every plot point (for instance, his fighting with the bikers) felt so generic and basic that it didn’t have the effect it had for you. Everything I thought would happen happened, which is not to say that being predictable is bad, more so that it was written in a way I thought was plain, boring, and just overall not good. Moments that should’ve had an effect didn’t, like reconciling with his siblings. Lots of things felt out of nowhere and had no buildup. Additionally, the plot didn’t feel connected much at all. It more felt like separate side stories set in the same world, with no connection to the others. I don’t want to trash the plot too much (because I don’t remember it) but I do stand by my opinion that it is poorly written. Now, about the plot, I will say that even though a lot of stuff happened, it didn’t really connect or feel like there was overarching growth or change. Despite the condescension (I get it LOL, people have passion for the shows they like), the fact that many things happened doesn’t affect the quality of the writing. It felt more slice-of-Lifey, except that it tried not to be that, if that makes sense. All the other responses claiming that these deep underlying themes occurred upset me a little, because the show felt like it was too flat for the themes to have any impact. For example, a character can say “I’m sad”, but otherwise act the same. That’s completely different from a character saying “I’m sad” and continuing to have a change to his personality and his interactions with others. There’s also another side to that, which also happened in this show. A character goes through a change, and just like that, everything’s different. There’s no realistic transition between the state of a character, it just happens and the watcher has to say “oh, yep that makes sense”. I can’t site an example in the story (I literally don’t remember), but I hope you understand what I’m getting at. That gets me to Yuuya. I think talking about Yuuya like he has amazing development is just reading too far into it, simple enough. He changed, but it wasn’t amazing. It’s all “huh, guess I shouldn’t be scared” then instant change. It felt like everything Yuuya said was unrealistic to the point of being inhuman. His interactions with other characters felt veryyyy forced. The writing didn’t invoke anything in me, didn’t make me feel any way. His entire character left me annoyed and overall confused, thinking “what was the point of what just happened” (this ties in to lots of the plot. Things just happened for the point of happening) Regardless, I won’t shit on your opinion because it’s your own. I might’ve seen it in a better light if I watched it at a different time, or I might’ve hated it more. I think in the end it all comes down to perspective, and how deep you read into it, or how much you believe what is shown to you. Some peope cried at the end of Gurren Lagann, and some people shrugged and went on with their lives. I think it’s just the way you look at shows that dictates how it affects you. (Also, I just didn’t find the show funny or find the characters charming :p. And, I didn’t proof read this at all so please reply with any rebuttals to stupid points I made) |
Apr 1, 7:42 PM
#56
Piromysl said: I would also like to know, because this show honestly felt like an insult. There is a good way and a bad way to do a wish fulfilment, but in this case it wasn't even subtle, that author was just throwing preverbial shit at the wall and seeing if it sticks, because what he made is so soulless and generic, it honestly seems to be AI generated. There is honestly nothing good in it. All characters are shallow and one dimensional. Especially protagonist, who is such a Gary Stu, that makes Kirito look like complex and deep character in comparison. Yeah, it all felt kind of generic, and all the “growth” felt forced, like the author wanted things to have depth that really didn’t. The characters felt really fake to me, I’m just curious about the mindset of people who thought the characters flowed well together |
Apr 1, 7:44 PM
#57
tonitoni8 said: Hmm I rated it 7/10 it has +1 because of my favorite VA Matsuoka Yoshitsugu the VA of Kirito Inosuke Petelguese and many other characters. I like Isekai anime and i just thought it was ok from animation to story. I didn’t really like the 3d animation but I get it. I love the petelgeuse va, really talented. What kind of isekai do you like? I’m just trying to understand the mindset and perspective of people who liked this show :p |
Apr 1, 7:51 PM
#58
DragyG said: I gave it 8 stars, read the whole thing till last volume published and used it for a presentation in my classes. So I guess I kinda enjoyed it. If I should explain why I would say that's precisely the reason you disliked it. Yuuya is dense and an abnormally average highschooler in his thoughts. He is basically what anyone here would be like if we got to be in his place and I really think the author was smart to make him overpowered but not some kind of the guy the world was waiting to have before even starting like you can see in most fantasy animes where a war has been raging for decades but no one actually seems to have beaten some shit before the MC awake to their power and start saving the world. Let's now have a look at the beginning of the story since it's what seems to annoy you. The anime starts with an obese Yuuya being rejected by everyone for that despite him being a good guy in his heart. Just right here the anime is already challenging what is called the halo effect and representativeness heuristic. In most animes an obese character is either a pervert (Like Rudeus in Mushoku tensei) or a bad guy (Like most giant villains in One Piece) just by this fact the author got a really smart way to write against social norms and it's the first thing I like here. One might argue that if the main objective was really to have an obese but kind protagonist then Yuuya could have remained obese but that's where Kaori comes. When Yuuya first try to help Kaori he fails ridiculously but gives the proof to the people living in that story that yes an obese guy can be nice (which was already proven to the watcher but not yet to the characters) and got rewarded for his goodwill by Kaori's father letting him join the school. Here the author tries to show that's not because people are bad with you or assume you are a bad person that you should necessarily conform to it and that being a nice guy with people around you is a good thing. Yes this one seems like total toddler moral but it actually has a moral unlike most Isekai shows where the guy basically reincarnate and live their best life just because they can without any sense of moral or ethics. So the second thing I liked here is that the author actually wanna transmit some kind of moral. And that's something they repeat throughout the whole story with the concept of forgiving despite having been the victim. Lexia forgives her brother for having tried to kill her acknowledging he too was suffering. Yuuya forgive his siblings for having tried to attack him and his classmates at school acknowledging it's legitimate be frustrated to not be granted what you desired despite having worked really hard to have it. And here that's really forgivenness it's not like Fairy Tail alike stories where the bad guys turns into good ones because they got hit hard enough. All characters in Iserebe know and say the villains acted badly but wan to understand them and maybe (if they deserve it cuz some actually got killed in what follows the anime) forgive them. Third is about the slow paced beginning. Just as I said previously Yuuya got to be able to live things in a completely new world where he doesn't know anything and where he is (supposedly) unknowned of anyone. Suppose you were moving to a new city next week. Do you think there will be anyone guessing you are new knocking at your door saying "Hey buddy, your life is starting now. You got your future wife waiting you at the bar over there"? Probably not and that's exactly what happens to Yuuya. He is in a place he doesn't know and to which he first needs to acclimate. That's why he first fears to fight and go out. There is no such a thing coming like "Hey I'm the plot. can you come over to the castle we got a story for you". I think the author was really smart to not give us a character knowing everything about wherever they might go and let us through their eyes experience what we would feel like if we were to be able to travel between worlds. So in short what I liked is that Iserebe go against norms, has some kind of moral and let us relate to Yuuya. Sure if that's not what you were looking for before watching it I understand your disappointment but I think people saying this anime was thrash because it didn't match their expectations are a bit narrow minded. You should read my other long response, but basically I think a lot of things you’re mentioning are just forced. It’s like, the show SAID Yuuya grew, but we didn’t really see much of it. He remembers a scene, but it feels forced and unnecessary. Lots of it was just themes that felt thrown onto the flat story, and none of them were built upon or flowed. And I really don’t think it’s that deep with Yuuya (seriously, read my other response because I can’t type that out again) I see what you mean with an overall theme, but for me it felt really bland and linear. I think that the way you described it is a glittered up version of what actually happened. He did a nice thing, and the other people were nice too. I just think it doesn’t go past that, and the story didn’t build on that theme enough for me to believe it. There was never really build up if that makes sense. The change itself made sense, but not the build up into it. I think if you look at the story from the base it was good, but if you look deeper (what the actual character interactions were and what the actual actions were) it becomes a lot less glittered up and more bland and predictable. |
Apr 1, 7:56 PM
#59
EmoDante said: Well... Iwatched anime during the period when I was preparing for my Baccalaureate Exams, which was a very stressful time. During this period, when you know you have to stop wasting time and study instead, both your heart and brain are in agreement on one thing. You will find enjoyment in anything, no matter its quality. I used to study for around 10 hours a day, allowing 7 hours for sleep at night, 2 hours for a mid-study nap, and 2 hours for sports, with the rest reserved for daily activities. Amidst these 10 hours, I took 5 minute breaks after every 25 minutes of studying. One of my daily activities was to watch an episode or 3 of an anime on rest days from sports. I distinctly remember watching Goblin Slayer and the anime featuring a red haired magic girl who was Taken by an elegant, tall creature with a goat skull for a head and red eyes named Elias. Although I can't recall the name, it was the best anime I watched during that period, alongside This anime. Lets go back tk our main subject. The story of the anime wasn't good, and only lowlife losers might enjoy it because it's their dream to live a life where everything is like a game. You level up in a magical world where getting stronger is as simple as drinking water. Without providing any background on who his Grandpa was or how he got all that, or where he got that portal. +The character was soo dump and as stupid as a stone, I still didn't understand what was the meaning from the intelligence points he recieved when he leveled up. I thing the problem was how the writer understood intelligence,thinking it is just being good at studying xDDD. Literary no character development at alllll. The writer totally ignored the fact that the appearance plays a great role in defining someone's personality. Maaaaybe his personality didn't change at all because he suddenly became a greak god at one night, and didn't have tk work his a** for a year to just lose fat. The writer was sooo lazy to write down this story, I might do better than him, I won't even right this from the beginning. I didn't understand why Stories like tgis are getting animated instead of other hidden gems. (Edited after remembering it again) To be honest, even I dreamt about something like that, but here is the difference. My dream was having a portal that takes me to another realm like the Dragon Ball time place, where spending years there does not count in real life, and you also don't grow older. You might be asking why I had a dream about that? Because I suffer from a lack of time, and sometimes I abandon my entertainment time to get things done, and sometimes worse when I have to abandon my sport and writing times, which were sacred. Therefore, I said I wish I had a place where I can train freely like in Dragon Ball. From what I said you could tell that I enjoyed the anime for two main reasons. 1- I was going through hard times, when the least fun thing becomes fun. 2- I had similar dreams but different goals. And the third reason which has nothing to do with what I said, is The Art style. I liked how characters are designed. And I wrote all this just to practice writing and see if I improved a little. If you see any writing or grammar mistakes, please let me know ^^ Anything specific you enjoyed, or any other anime you like? I want to understand the perspective and tastes of people that liked this Yeah, I get being in stressful situations changes how you view what you watch. I was going through a very tough relationship, and when I watched re zero the pain I felt made the trauma of the show feel all the more real to me, and it’s my favorite anime of all time. Studying really is the worst though😮💨 a basic cookie cutter isekai is sometimes the best escape |
Apr 1, 7:58 PM
#60
Tamzer said: I did enjoy this. It was fun and I’m looking forward to season 2. I like the MC. He’s a really nice guy who had bad things happen to him and then something magical happened that helped change his life and gave him the power to improve himself. Sometimes you just like an anime because. I don’t always feel a need to psychoanalyze why I enjoyed it. I just did. I want to understand the perspective of people that enjoyed it so do you have any anime you like in particular or genres of anime in general? |
Apr 1, 8:07 PM
#61
KuyaC said: EmoDante said: Well... Iwatched anime during the period when I was preparing for my Baccalaureate Exams, which was a very stressful time. During this period, when you know you have to stop wasting time and study instead, both your heart and brain are in agreement on one thing. You will find enjoyment in anything, no matter its quality. I used to study for around 10 hours a day, allowing 7 hours for sleep at night, 2 hours for a mid-study nap, and 2 hours for sports, with the rest reserved for daily activities. Amidst these 10 hours, I took 5 minute breaks after every 25 minutes of studying. One of my daily activities was to watch an episode or 3 of an anime on rest days from sports. I distinctly remember watching Goblin Slayer and the anime featuring a red haired magic girl who was Taken by an elegant, tall creature with a goat skull for a head and red eyes named Elias. Although I can't recall the name, it was the best anime I watched during that period, alongside This anime. Lets go back tk our main subject. The story of the anime wasn't good, and only lowlife losers might enjoy it because it's their dream to live a life where everything is like a game. You level up in a magical world where getting stronger is as simple as drinking water. Without providing any background on who his Grandpa was or how he got all that, or where he got that portal. +The character was soo dump and as stupid as a stone, I still didn't understand what was the meaning from the intelligence points he recieved when he leveled up. I thing the problem was how the writer understood intelligence,thinking it is just being good at studying xDDD. Literary no character development at alllll. The writer totally ignored the fact that the appearance plays a great role in defining someone's personality. Maaaaybe his personality didn't change at all because he suddenly became a greak god at one night, and didn't have tk work his a** for a year to just lose fat. The writer was sooo lazy to write down this story, I might do better than him, I won't even right this from the beginning. I didn't understand why Stories like tgis are getting animated instead of other hidden gems. (Edited after remembering it again) To be honest, even I dreamt about something like that, but here is the difference. My dream was having a portal that takes me to another realm like the Dragon Ball time place, where spending years there does not count in real life, and you also don't grow older. You might be asking why I had a dream about that? Because I suffer from a lack of time, and sometimes I abandon my entertainment time to get things done, and sometimes worse when I have to abandon my sport and writing times, which were sacred. Therefore, I said I wish I had a place where I can train freely like in Dragon Ball. From what I said you could tell that I enjoyed the anime for two main reasons. 1- I was going through hard times, when the least fun thing becomes fun. 2- I had similar dreams but different goals. And the third reason which has nothing to do with what I said, is The Art style. I liked how characters are designed. And I wrote all this just to practice writing and see if I improved a little. If you see any writing or grammar mistakes, please let me know ^^ Anything specific you enjoyed, or any other anime you like? I want to understand the perspective and tastes of people that liked this Yeah, I get being in stressful situations changes how you view what you watch. I was going through a very tough relationship, and when I watched re zero the pain I felt made the trauma of the show feel all the more real to me, and it’s my favorite anime of all time. Studying really is the worst though😮💨 a basic cookie cutter isekai is sometimes the best escape Well if you ask me about my favorite type? It is most likely an anime like Death Note or monster, where you have A dark cat and mouse Conflict. specially when it is as good as DN and Monster, Add to that the psychological touch. Something else hmmm yeah mystery and horror, like Another, and When they cry Specifically When They Cry, they did it well. |
Apr 1, 9:00 PM
#62
KuyaC said: tonitoni8 said: Hmm I rated it 7/10 it has +1 because of my favorite VA Matsuoka Yoshitsugu the VA of Kirito Inosuke Petelguese and many other characters. I like Isekai anime and i just thought it was ok from animation to story. I didn’t really like the 3d animation but I get it. I love the petelgeuse va, really talented. What kind of isekai do you like? I’m just trying to understand the mindset and perspective of people who liked this show :p Well SAO (I know that it's not Isekai but I believe because SAO appeared that Isekai genre began being productive and so many started) but if u want a proper Isekai genre anime answer then Eminece in Shadow, Arifureta, Trapped in a dating Sim , Tate no Yushaa season 1 ,Black Summoner and others. The main reason for me to like a Isekai anime is The personality of the Protagonist then the story and other reasons. |
Apr 6, 9:35 AM
#63
It's average for isekais, just search for isekais and u will find hundrets of the same kind |
Apr 7, 12:17 PM
#64
currently im on episode 5, i wanted to watch some isekai and something easy to kinda ignore a little and your post made me realize this anime is perfect for that. just ocasionally glance and and for now i followed whatever happened until now (saving some girls and not much more tbh). the animation was decent until the first fight scene, it was an absolute garbage. i have no idea whats the point of anything that is going on, so i think all i can do is leave it as background noise to watch while i do anything else |
Apr 24, 2:20 AM
#65
isekai, that's it xD Wasn't a banger, but I also enjoy the ones where I don't have to take in so much, like after a hard day at school. Definetly not in my tops though. |
Apr 25, 4:02 PM
#66
I'm currently in the process of re-watching it as I never got past episode 9 when watching it weekly and I'm once again reminded why I stopped. Every single thing in this series exists solely for the purpose of propping the MC up. Its a through and through power fantasy fanfic. Like the episode I'm on at the moment he's taking his dog for a walk and theres a robber with a knife. Theres never any normal scene where he doesnt save the day. I'm genuinely curious if this continues for the rest of the season that I have yet to watch. |
DarknessRealityApr 25, 4:31 PM
Yuritopia FTW!!!!!!!!! BANZAI TO YURI !!!!!!!!!!!! |
May 2, 3:04 PM
#67
Franklr_D said: Isekai Reddit has such an insane hard on for this anime while hating on The Eminence in Shadow with equally as much passion. People are weird Eminence was good imo because not only was the world-building/plot pretty interesting, but the sheer comedy of the oblivious MC's theatrics was extremely amusing. This show had little desirable qualities. No real comedy, weak romance themes that felt forced and unrealistic, iffy power scaling, boring but cute oppai-onna harem, and it was just too pure with every villainous character being redeemed at the drop of a hat. It just feels like a fat hikikomori's self-fulfillment fantasy, but the visuals were good so I gave it a 6/10. |
May 12, 9:14 PM
#68
I just finished and gave it a 7/10 because I enjoy isekai. To be honest, I enjoyed the story line but the animation was not all in there. It looked very clunky on some fights or when characters would turn around. I’m looking forward season 2, to see if there’s any improvement! |
May 22, 12:28 AM
#69
It's mid. Yuuya has to be the most annoying and frustrating isekai MC I have ever come across. I did like the animation though plus the waifus. Other than that, it was mid. It's a 5/10 for me. |
Jun 18, 4:04 PM
#70
I went ahead and had a thorough read through of every positive response about the anime. All responses fell into one of two categories: - Gave a detailed response, but contained frequent basic grammar/spelling issues. - Were short/surface level that could describe any isekai and not specifically this one. Although we didn't get any good answers explaining the strong points of the anime, the quality of the answers is indicative to who the target audience for this show is. |
Jun 26, 12:42 AM
#71
Jul 5, 10:11 AM
#72
Reply to DragyG
I gave it 8 stars, read the whole thing till last volume published and used it for a presentation in my classes. So I guess I kinda enjoyed it.
If I should explain why I would say that's precisely the reason you disliked it.
Yuuya is dense and an abnormally average highschooler in his thoughts. He is basically what anyone here would be like if we got to be in his place and I really think the author was smart to make him overpowered but not some kind of the guy the world was waiting to have before even starting like you can see in most fantasy animes where a war has been raging for decades but no one actually seems to have beaten some shit before the MC awake to their power and start saving the world.
Let's now have a look at the beginning of the story since it's what seems to annoy you.
The anime starts with an obese Yuuya being rejected by everyone for that despite him being a good guy in his heart. Just right here the anime is already challenging what is called the halo effect and representativeness heuristic. In most animes an obese character is either a pervert (Like Rudeus in Mushoku tensei) or a bad guy (Like most giant villains in One Piece) just by this fact the author got a really smart way to write against social norms and it's the first thing I like here.
One might argue that if the main objective was really to have an obese but kind protagonist then Yuuya could have remained obese but that's where Kaori comes.
When Yuuya first try to help Kaori he fails ridiculously but gives the proof to the people living in that story that yes an obese guy can be nice (which was already proven to the watcher but not yet to the characters) and got rewarded for his goodwill by Kaori's father letting him join the school. Here the author tries to show that's not because people are bad with you or assume you are a bad person that you should necessarily conform to it and that being a nice guy with people around you is a good thing. Yes this one seems like total toddler moral but it actually has a moral unlike most Isekai shows where the guy basically reincarnate and live their best life just because they can without any sense of moral or ethics.
So the second thing I liked here is that the author actually wanna transmit some kind of moral. And that's something they repeat throughout the whole story with the concept of forgiving despite having been the victim. Lexia forgives her brother for having tried to kill her acknowledging he too was suffering. Yuuya forgive his siblings for having tried to attack him and his classmates at school acknowledging it's legitimate be frustrated to not be granted what you desired despite having worked really hard to have it. And here that's really forgivenness it's not like Fairy Tail alike stories where the bad guys turns into good ones because they got hit hard enough. All characters in Iserebe know and say the villains acted badly but wan to understand them and maybe (if they deserve it cuz some actually got killed in what follows the anime) forgive them.
Third is about the slow paced beginning. Just as I said previously Yuuya got to be able to live things in a completely new world where he doesn't know anything and where he is (supposedly) unknowned of anyone. Suppose you were moving to a new city next week. Do you think there will be anyone guessing you are new knocking at your door saying "Hey buddy, your life is starting now. You got your future wife waiting you at the bar over there"? Probably not and that's exactly what happens to Yuuya. He is in a place he doesn't know and to which he first needs to acclimate. That's why he first fears to fight and go out. There is no such a thing coming like "Hey I'm the plot. can you come over to the castle we got a story for you". I think the author was really smart to not give us a character knowing everything about wherever they might go and let us through their eyes experience what we would feel like if we were to be able to travel between worlds.
So in short what I liked is that Iserebe go against norms, has some kind of moral and let us relate to Yuuya.
Sure if that's not what you were looking for before watching it I understand your disappointment but I think people saying this anime was thrash because it didn't match their expectations are a bit narrow minded.
If I should explain why I would say that's precisely the reason you disliked it.
Yuuya is dense and an abnormally average highschooler in his thoughts. He is basically what anyone here would be like if we got to be in his place and I really think the author was smart to make him overpowered but not some kind of the guy the world was waiting to have before even starting like you can see in most fantasy animes where a war has been raging for decades but no one actually seems to have beaten some shit before the MC awake to their power and start saving the world.
Let's now have a look at the beginning of the story since it's what seems to annoy you.
The anime starts with an obese Yuuya being rejected by everyone for that despite him being a good guy in his heart. Just right here the anime is already challenging what is called the halo effect and representativeness heuristic. In most animes an obese character is either a pervert (Like Rudeus in Mushoku tensei) or a bad guy (Like most giant villains in One Piece) just by this fact the author got a really smart way to write against social norms and it's the first thing I like here.
One might argue that if the main objective was really to have an obese but kind protagonist then Yuuya could have remained obese but that's where Kaori comes.
When Yuuya first try to help Kaori he fails ridiculously but gives the proof to the people living in that story that yes an obese guy can be nice (which was already proven to the watcher but not yet to the characters) and got rewarded for his goodwill by Kaori's father letting him join the school. Here the author tries to show that's not because people are bad with you or assume you are a bad person that you should necessarily conform to it and that being a nice guy with people around you is a good thing. Yes this one seems like total toddler moral but it actually has a moral unlike most Isekai shows where the guy basically reincarnate and live their best life just because they can without any sense of moral or ethics.
So the second thing I liked here is that the author actually wanna transmit some kind of moral. And that's something they repeat throughout the whole story with the concept of forgiving despite having been the victim. Lexia forgives her brother for having tried to kill her acknowledging he too was suffering. Yuuya forgive his siblings for having tried to attack him and his classmates at school acknowledging it's legitimate be frustrated to not be granted what you desired despite having worked really hard to have it. And here that's really forgivenness it's not like Fairy Tail alike stories where the bad guys turns into good ones because they got hit hard enough. All characters in Iserebe know and say the villains acted badly but wan to understand them and maybe (if they deserve it cuz some actually got killed in what follows the anime) forgive them.
Third is about the slow paced beginning. Just as I said previously Yuuya got to be able to live things in a completely new world where he doesn't know anything and where he is (supposedly) unknowned of anyone. Suppose you were moving to a new city next week. Do you think there will be anyone guessing you are new knocking at your door saying "Hey buddy, your life is starting now. You got your future wife waiting you at the bar over there"? Probably not and that's exactly what happens to Yuuya. He is in a place he doesn't know and to which he first needs to acclimate. That's why he first fears to fight and go out. There is no such a thing coming like "Hey I'm the plot. can you come over to the castle we got a story for you". I think the author was really smart to not give us a character knowing everything about wherever they might go and let us through their eyes experience what we would feel like if we were to be able to travel between worlds.
So in short what I liked is that Iserebe go against norms, has some kind of moral and let us relate to Yuuya.
Sure if that's not what you were looking for before watching it I understand your disappointment but I think people saying this anime was thrash because it didn't match their expectations are a bit narrow minded.
DragyG said: Iserebe go against norms Is this a joke? Like... for real? The most soulless, generic and unoriginal schlock imaginable, that honestly feels like something ChatGPT would make "goes against the norms"? |
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