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Nov 9, 2023 7:39 PM
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I wanna know what you guys feel of the studio now that they've finished animating aot. Poor working conditions and staff misuse aside, what do you think of the artists of the studio? Do you think they've done a very good job? Do you think they can do better? Let me know :)

Note: You may compare the studio's work with the animation of the previous seasons and even compare individual artists if you want, but I request to make them non toxic, and you must explain at least one positive and one negative point of both sides if you compare.












MonsterSkasNov 9, 2023 8:39 PM
Nov 9, 2023 8:02 PM
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As had been said said multiple times, the way the staff is being treated is truly abhorrent. But speaking just quality wise, I think it's safe to say Mappa has become synonymous with quality at this point. Sure, there are a few companies like ufotable,Kyoto, ect, who can rival or even exceed mappa, but none can be as consistent with releases as mappa has been and retain this level of quality. I'm just wondering how long they can keep this up before everyone working there gets burned out.
Nov 9, 2023 8:05 PM
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MAPPA is known for producing great quality animes for a reason.

AOT is no exception now, especially with the love given to S4 P3 and P4.
Nov 9, 2023 8:12 PM
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They make gorgeous art. There great at what they do.

Although I hear bad things about there work conditions.
Nov 9, 2023 8:15 PM
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Zprotu said:
MAPPA is known for producing great quality animes for a reason.

AOT is no exception now, especially with the love given to S4 P3 and P4.

Truly, but I think they did a wonderful job with p2 aswell.
Nov 9, 2023 8:25 PM
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Still not really a fan, as I have not yet seen one of their animes that I absolutely love without exception, sure they have great animation, but that also does not take away from the fact it's one of the worst animation studios when it comes to treating their employees right
Nov 9, 2023 8:27 PM
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CrunchyCrobat said:
Still not really a fan, as I have not yet seen one of their animes that I absolutely love without exception, sure they have great animation, but that also does not take away from the fact it's one of the worst animation studios when it comes to treating their employees right

Agreed, they should really know how to treat their employees right.
Nov 9, 2023 8:29 PM
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TheLastCrusaders said:
As had been said said multiple times, the way the staff is being treated is truly abhorrent. But speaking just quality wise, I think it's safe to say Mappa has become synonymous with quality at this point. Sure, there are a few companies like ufotable,Kyoto, ect, who can rival or even exceed mappa, but none can be as consistent with releases as mappa has been and retain this level of quality. I'm just wondering how long they can keep this up before everyone working there gets burned out.

Agreed. But it seems like Kyoani is on a whole different level with animation and beauty, their stuff looks so beautiful that it feels like mappa can't even come close to them even if given full time and resources, the artists at Kyoani are at a whole different level. But yes I think they really should work on some action anime.
Nov 9, 2023 8:52 PM
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Mappa like most studios are hit or miss.
It's Morbin' Time!
Nov 9, 2023 9:02 PM
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MonsterSkas said:
TheLastCrusaders said:
As had been said said multiple times, the way the staff is being treated is truly abhorrent. But speaking just quality wise, I think it's safe to say Mappa has become synonymous with quality at this point. Sure, there are a few companies like ufotable,Kyoto, ect, who can rival or even exceed mappa, but none can be as consistent with releases as mappa has been and retain this level of quality. I'm just wondering how long they can keep this up before everyone working there gets burned out.

Agreed. But it seems like Kyoani is on a whole different level with animation and beauty, their stuff looks so beautiful that it feels like mappa can't even come close to them even if given full time and resources, the artists at Kyoani are at a whole different level. But yes I think they really should work on some action anime.

because kyoani has full in-house team working on their projects same as ufotable they make 90% of their projects in-house
Nov 9, 2023 9:06 PM
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It's the best looking Attack on Titan has ever looked
It felt so real
Nov 9, 2023 9:15 PM
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Phantom_373 said:
They make gorgeous art. There great at what they do.

Although I hear bad things about there work conditions.

They never miss at making the art great, that's a plus point about mappa.
Nov 9, 2023 9:30 PM
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Amazing studio with talent but goddamn, they need to chill on their animators ffs and the ceo needs to stop being money minded and picking up multiple projects (even if there are different teams assigned for each of them).

I know it's kinda common work culture in Japan but the animators working at MAPPA definitely deserve a lot better working conditions and paycheck.

Though I absolutely loved the AoT S4, JJK (S1 & S2 both), CSM, Dorohedoro, Vinland Saga S2 adaptations. Hell's Paradise was kinda inconsistent but still looked good imo and I know we'll get a much better S2 of it with more consistency. The God of Highschool also had great animation imo but I wasn't a huge fan of the story, but that's a different discussion.
dk107_Nov 9, 2023 9:37 PM
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Kinda overhated. Some people are just never happy. They just have to complain about everything. :C

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I won't talk about Mappa as a whole because I have not seen nearly enough of their Animes.

So I will talk about their work in AoT.

And I will say that Mappa(Mostly team Hayashi) really showed their dedication and appreciation for AoT.

Yes the Animation quality wasn't the best in S4P1 due to scheduling restrictions. But they really tried and did improve with each part.
To the point that in my opinion S4P4 is the best animated part of the whole show.

I mean honestly they could have easily half assed it.
They got a show right at it's end and didn't have much to gain from it.
But they really gave it the best treatment they could under the circumstances. And I appreciate that.

As for their capabilities. Going by AoT clearly when given enough time they can make great looking action. But I would like to point out 3 things I was really impressed with.

1. Their backgrounds. They are so beautiful and realistic.

2. Use of color. Season 4 had such an amazing use of color. I can't explain it. But you would go from this completely orange/red color pallette to a purple color palette to a blue color palette and I just loved it.

3. Goddam can these guys do facial expressions. Seriously Mappa is so good at conveying emotions through facial animations. In AoT atleast.
Nov 9, 2023 11:36 PM
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Fuhrer_Wrath said:
I won't talk about Mappa as a whole because I have not seen nearly enough of their Animes.

So I will talk about their work in AoT.

And I will say that Mappa(Mostly team Hayashi) really showed their dedication and appreciation for AoT.

Yes the Animation quality wasn't the best in S4P1 due to scheduling restrictions. But they really tried and did improve with each part.
To the point that in my opinion S4P4 is the best animated part of the whole show.

I mean honestly they could have easily half assed it.
They got a show right at it's end and didn't have much to gain from it.
But they really gave it the best treatment they could under the circumstances. And I appreciate that.

As for their capabilities. Going by AoT clearly when given enough time they can make great looking action. But I would like to point out 3 things I was really impressed with.

1. Their backgrounds. They are so beautiful and realistic.

2. Use of color. Season 4 had such an amazing use of color. I can't explain it. But you would go from this completely orange/red color pallette to a purple color palette to a blue color palette and I just loved it.

3. Goddam can these guys do facial expressions. Seriously Mappa is so good at conveying emotions through facial animations. In AoT atleast.

Really well written, never saw anyone explaining so dedicatedly their love for mappa's work, I appreciate it. Our opinions match very much, we can be buddies really 🤝. (btw cool pfp)
Nov 10, 2023 12:18 AM
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I've seen alot better, mappa just is average.
You should take a look on studio shaft's works, ufotable, Kyoto, WIT, MADHOUSE, PRODUCTUON IG, bones, even pierrot's bleach 2022

All these studio have alot awesome made works and so much great artists

Like puella magic maddoka, garden of sinners, vanitas, vinyl and... more

These studios in term of almost everything are better than mappa

Mappa is an Average studio,
And has 2 years for working on 7eps of part 3, it's obvious you should expect these quality and animation, but in term of drawing quality is still bad
Nov 10, 2023 1:30 AM

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I've seen alot better, mappa just is average.
You should take a look on studio shaft's works, ufotable, Kyoto, WIT, MADHOUSE, PRODUCTUON IG, bones, even pierrot's bleach 2022

All these studio have alot awesome made works and so much great artists

Like puella magic maddoka, garden of sinners, vanitas, vinyl and... more

These studios in term of almost everything are better than mappa

Mappa is an Average studio,
And has 2 years for working on 7eps of part 3, it's obvious you should expect these quality and animation, but in term of drawing quality is still bad
@Zero01guard Have you seen JJK, Chainsaw man, or other MAPPA animes? They're very good too.
Nov 10, 2023 6:35 AM

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Simply bad working conditions and a really good work.

Nov 10, 2023 6:40 AM

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The studio producing the highest quality in the industry right now bar none
Nov 10, 2023 7:40 AM
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@Zero01guard Have you seen JJK, Chainsaw man, or other MAPPA animes? They're very good too.
@Zprotu yeah I have seen all of them.
Chaisaw man and jjk are good but like i said I have seen better.
Imo only vinland s2 was made incredible
That's because they brought back almost same s1 stuff
But even with same stuff, wit' vinland s1 was a little bit better, or a level higher.
Nov 10, 2023 8:47 AM
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Mappa is a good studio. The only problem I have with them is that their shows don't really have any contrast and there's kinda a blurry or dull filter on it.

Other than that everything's just fine. There isn't really any problem with it. Their animation is pretty fluid and their CGI is really good and unnoticeable most of the time.

In short, I think they could work a bit on the visual quality. Animation is great.
Nov 10, 2023 9:59 AM
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A lot of people don’t say good because they don’t need to but people who don’t like something just want to say it because it’s against popular opinion
Nov 10, 2023 3:54 PM
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people hate for the wrong reasons. the animation is amazing, the working conditions are not.
Nov 11, 2023 10:02 PM

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people hate for the wrong reasons. the animation is amazing, the working conditions are not.
@Raine0 tbf the working conditions are basically the same throughout all anime studios
Nov 15, 2023 7:02 AM
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Crap studio, with very arrogant and incompetent management. I'm glad to see that their poor decisions are finally catching up to them. You know what they say, pride comes before a fall. It's going to be funny seeing all the MAPPA dick riders turn around and become a hatemob once the general opinion on them changes.
Nov 15, 2023 7:16 AM

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I think i probably would like older mappa anime if i watch them, but I don’t really like how mappa only focuses on making already popular stuff with their newer projects and their bad management made me loose interest in AOT(it seems jjk is currently facing similar problem), so definitely an overrated studio for me.
Nov 15, 2023 7:27 AM
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Anime fans blindly supporting MAPPA studio INSTEAD of the staffs working in harsh conditions.

You know it's something when the anime staffs working on JJK are starting to voice their opinion on twitter while risking their career in anime industry because of MAPPA.

Anime is AMAZING because of the workers NOT the studio.
Management needs to change.
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It's a great studio with great staff but they need to work on improving their working conditions.


Nov 15, 2023 10:14 AM
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Mappa figured out a formula to do decent animation very efficiently, which is why they are animating a lot of the promising action stuff right now, at the cost of everything looking exactly the same. So obviously Wit did a better job at the first 3 seasons, than Mappa did with final season. I know many fans despised Mappa after S4P1, but personally I think that this was because the production team took too long to partner up with another studio after Wit called quits, which had Mappa working on a schedule too tight for any studio too handle.
Nov 15, 2023 12:58 PM
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in my opinion they ruined the ending hype and excitement of aot
i barely remmber what happened in last part which came out on march
and the animation quailty it was average for the amount of time they took to finish the part 3 4 ,
it would have been alot alot better if they had just released whole final part now or as 2 or 3 hour movie
Nov 15, 2023 8:37 PM
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They did fantastic job on AoT, CSM and JJK S1, extremely high quality of animation and production, but the working conditions and managment obviously suck
Nov 19, 2023 12:50 AM
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Anime fans blindly supporting MAPPA studio INSTEAD of the staffs working in harsh conditions.

You know it's something when the anime staffs working on JJK are starting to voice their opinion on twitter while risking their career in anime industry because of MAPPA.

Anime is AMAZING because of the workers NOT the studio.
Management needs to change.
@xkazutox Pls get it, I stated "Poor working conditions and staff misuse aside" which means I was talking about the artists and not the CEO or anyone else. Also, Manabu Otsuka does put a lot of pressure on the employees, but that does not mean we have to hate MAPPA, why? because a studio is made up of not just the CEO, but also the artists and the resources they work with, hating a studio also means hating on their artists and resources which aren't bad by any means. Yes I do agree that we should thank the staff and I do thank the staff only, but since people have concentrated a lot of hate towards mappa for some years now and because of their artists' work and not staff misuse, I had to state 'MAPPA' and not 'AoT staff'. Just as fans should not thank 'mappa' which is the company building and should rather thank living humans that being the 'artists', haters of Manabu should not concentrate their hate towards 'mappa' and rather just state the name of the ceo. The studio is good, the ceo is not. Also, pls, do not randomly call out anyone 'blind' its depressing to look at as it seems like its some sort of crime nowadays to be a fan of anything, I have already given up on being die-hard on many things because of that as I constantly got attacked.
Nov 19, 2023 10:58 AM
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savagejo said:
I just hope the director chooses to go back to dorohedoro after this snk detour. Mappa did a great job with s1 of that

I wanna see some top tier adaptations done by their artists with better schedules.

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