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Aug 1, 2023 8:00 AM
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The goal is just to express a feeling that I have. Am I the only one feeling like some anime are trying to produce weirdly organized episodes just to follow a trend ? Don't get me wrong, I love Jujutsu Kaisen and I read the manga since a long time, I just feel like this season 2 is so weird for no reason : extremely random OSTs, sudden cuts, unconventional camera angles, completely out off topic scenes...
Is this maybe the influence of the very popular Chainsaw Man, known for breaking the rules of story telling, or am I completely wrong with my analysis ? 
Aug 1, 2023 8:16 AM
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no, your imagination, the cut off dialogue are in many anime, not because It was the influence of CSM, the Angles are perfect, they are doing It to make the anime more cinematographic and Better.
Aug 1, 2023 8:17 AM
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I think you're so used to what the genre has been doing for more than 20 years that when it tries to innovate you feel uncomfortable. I'm not a big fan of Jujutsu Kaisen (I loved the movie though) but I think the artistic approach of this season is spectacular, especially the soundtrack. You call it random but to those of us who are tired of the same thing, it seems perfect and not only that, but I think objectively speaking it's very good. But that's just my opinion.
Aug 1, 2023 8:22 AM
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The animation and soundtracks are pretty great.
Aug 1, 2023 8:26 AM
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the direction of the series is different but it feels and looks amazing idk what you are on.. it feels cinematic and the soundtrack fits
Aug 1, 2023 8:36 AM
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the soundtrack is amazing and the cinematography is perfect in season 2
Aug 1, 2023 9:24 AM
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mirefong said:
the direction of the series is different but it feels and looks amazing idk what you are on.. it feels cinematic and the soundtrack fits
"you don't have the same opinion as me, you must be taking drugs"
lol, ok dude, sorry for criticizing your favorite anime
Aug 1, 2023 9:29 AM
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Tristanteken said:
mirefong said:
the direction of the series is different but it feels and looks amazing idk what you are on.. it feels cinematic and the soundtrack fits
"you don't have the same opinion as me, you must be taking drugs"
lol, ok dude, sorry for criticizing your favorite anime

Nah i wasnt insulting him, sorry if it came out that way
Aug 1, 2023 10:24 AM
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Weird equals good when it is done right. And so far I fell like this one has been acing it.
Aug 1, 2023 10:43 AM
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They're just trying to achieve a certain level of cinematic appeal, which is a good thing imo. Animation innovation had stagnated in the industry for years, with most anime using the same boring techniques that have existed since the 90's. MAPPA trying out all these different styles and techniques is gonna have a lot of long-term benefits if other popular shows on the level of Jjk and Csm follow the same example.
Aug 1, 2023 12:13 PM

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Tristanteken said:
I just feel like this season 2 is so weird for no reason : extremely random OSTs, sudden cuts, unconventional camera angles, completely out off topic scenes...

You are too polite in the manner in which you word your question. In my opinion, S2 is a far-cry from the masterpieces that were S1 and the movie. This is MAPPA over-burdening themselves with projects and delivering sloppy end-products as a result. What you are alluding to is incoherent trash peddled as "modern art" and the fans will go "oh....such cinematic....much compositing". The total lack of fight choreography and decent OST in S2 is as clear as day....and the reason for this is they simply didn't have the time or dedication to pour their hearts in S2 as they had done with S1 and the movie. This season, upto this point, has simply not been immersive...and I don't believe it ever will because the original director left MAPPA. 
Aug 1, 2023 12:35 PM
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btech2009 said:
Tristanteken said:
I just feel like this season 2 is so weird for no reason : extremely random OSTs, sudden cuts, unconventional camera angles, completely out off topic scenes...

You are too polite in the manner in which you word your question. In my opinion, S2 is a far-cry from the masterpieces that were S1 and the movie. This is MAPPA over-burdening themselves with projects and delivering sloppy end-products as a result. What you are alluding to is incoherent trash peddled as "modern art" and the fans will go "oh....such cinematic....much compositing". The total lack of fight choreography and decent OST in S2 is as clear as day....and the reason for this is they simply didn't have the time or dedication to pour their hearts in S2 as they had done with S1 and the movie. This season, upto this point, has simply not been immersive...and I don't believe it ever will because the original director left MAPPA. 

ok, so I guess what you are trying to say is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". also, WHAT. I respect your opinion of not liking it, but how is this in any way a sloppy end product?? This season so far has better animation and soundtrack than some movies have.
Aug 1, 2023 5:49 PM
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btech2009 said:
Tristanteken said:
I just feel like this season 2 is so weird for no reason : extremely random OSTs, sudden cuts, unconventional camera angles, completely out off topic scenes...

You are too polite in the manner in which you word your question. In my opinion, S2 is a far-cry from the masterpieces that were S1 and the movie. This is MAPPA over-burdening themselves with projects and delivering sloppy end-products as a result. What you are alluding to is incoherent trash peddled as "modern art" and the fans will go "oh....such cinematic....much compositing". The total lack of fight choreography and decent OST in S2 is as clear as day....and the reason for this is they simply didn't have the time or dedication to pour their hearts in S2 as they had done with S1 and the movie. This season, upto this point, has simply not been immersive...and I don't believe it ever will because the original director left MAPPA. 

Sunghoo Park is a fantastic action director. When there is a fight on screen, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who can choreograph and animate it at the quality he can. Not to mention the speed at which he pumps it out. You cant out-action Park.

But outside of action Park JJK S1 suffered in almost every other area. As noted by pretty much the entire community atp, bad compositing/effects/nearly any background in the show that moves. It was sloppy and awkward.

Gosso is a much more stylistic director compared to Park. He uses fantastic angles and atmosphere and color to convey the tone of scenes much better than Park does. His willingness to try new things at least once, just to see if they work, shows that he is someone who is still trying to learn more to get even better.

I'm terms of fight choreography, idk what y'all want, cause sometimes you want things to be 1:1 with the manga and other times you don't. the fights were adapted perfectly. And besides that. 90% of the fights were just people throwing out their long distance powers. What choreography do you want out of that. Round 2 was never supposed to be a fight anyway. This isn't Yuji where all he has is hands.

I can't dispute your taste in music personally i don't see much difference between seasons besides less rap. And I also pray you aren't one of the ones who thinks the "hollow purple" ost should've played during the honored one moment. Worst possible musical tone choice for that moment.

Anyway i like park when he's in more of an action storyboard and animator role. Season 2 of JJK is a much more visually sound product than even the movie was and definitely season 1. Probably won't change your mind but i like discussion.
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Aug 1, 2023 6:02 PM

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Weird can equal to good, but not all times. However, Jujutsu Kaisen S2 is not doing anything weird, it just stopped looking like a complete mess like the first season and started looking like a regular anime.
Aug 1, 2023 7:30 PM

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I agree the music is a downgrade or at least is going in a different approach. Probably due to to the loss of collaboration from Hiroaki Tsutsumi who imo did some of the best tracks in Season 1.

As far as action animation goes, I think it's been great. Gosso's directorial style makes more interesting and varied action set pieces. And the storyboarding and direction in general is way more fun to watch than Season 1. Take Yousuke Takada's episode 2. He transitions in his storyboard using the background as the lense and vehicle for playing a scene out.

People should really watch the first 5 episodes of season 1 again. They were nothing special aside Kenichiro Watanabe's action cut from episode 2(Gojo v Sukuna). And tbh K1RO's cut from Episode 3 was cooler than the one he did in season 1 too!


Aug 1, 2023 7:44 PM

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No, both Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man belong to the same landfill as Naruto, Bleach or One Piece
If you want to reply to my posts, come up with valid arguments instead of ad hominem HIGHER LEVEL THINKERS ONLY
Aug 1, 2023 8:18 PM
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btech2009 said:
Tristanteken said:
I just feel like this season 2 is so weird for no reason : extremely random OSTs, sudden cuts, unconventional camera angles, completely out off topic scenes...

You are too polite in the manner in which you word your question. In my opinion, S2 is a far-cry from the masterpieces that were S1 and the movie. This is MAPPA over-burdening themselves with projects and delivering sloppy end-products as a result. What you are alluding to is incoherent trash peddled as "modern art" and the fans will go "oh....such cinematic....much compositing". The total lack of fight choreography and decent OST in S2 is as clear as day....and the reason for this is they simply didn't have the time or dedication to pour their hearts in S2 as they had done with S1 and the movie. This season, upto this point, has simply not been immersive...and I don't believe it ever will because the original director left MAPPA. 

And why is this a sloppy, bad season? What part was it bad! That it's different than the previous season and 90% of other anime?
Or the fact the art style has changed? Or the fact the animation quality is now better at the cost of being more creative and cinematic? Or the fact the music isn't that same thing we have been getting for all the time?

Just cuz you don't like the style doesn't mean it's sloppy or bad. Don't say shit about anything if you don't have any knowledge..
Aug 2, 2023 12:26 AM
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Tristanteken said:
The goal is just to express a feeling that I have. Am I the only one feeling like some anime are trying to produce weirdly organized episodes just to follow a trend ? Don't get me wrong, I love Jujutsu Kaisen and I read the manga since a long time, I just feel like this season 2 is so weird for no reason : extremely random OSTs, sudden cuts, unconventional camera angles, completely out off topic scenes...
Is this maybe the influence of the very popular Chainsaw Man, known for breaking the rules of story telling, or am I completely wrong with my analysis ? 

Well, in Chainsaw Man they were trying to go for a cinematic Hollywood take on anime, and it didn’t succeed at all, cause the direction was really mediocre, but at least the animations were good
Aug 2, 2023 2:08 AM

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DIA133 said:
btech2009 said:

You are too polite in the manner in which you word your question. In my opinion, S2 is a far-cry from the masterpieces that were S1 and the movie. This is MAPPA over-burdening themselves with projects and delivering sloppy end-products as a result. What you are alluding to is incoherent trash peddled as "modern art" and the fans will go "oh....such cinematic....much compositing". The total lack of fight choreography and decent OST in S2 is as clear as day....and the reason for this is they simply didn't have the time or dedication to pour their hearts in S2 as they had done with S1 and the movie. This season, upto this point, has simply not been immersive...and I don't believe it ever will because the original director left MAPPA. 

Sunghoo Park is a fantastic action director. When there is a fight on screen, you'd be hard pressed to find someone who can choreograph and animate it at the quality he can. Not to mention the speed at which he pumps it out. You cant out-action Park.

But outside of action Park JJK S1 suffered in almost every other area. As noted by pretty much the entire community atp, bad compositing/effects/nearly any background in the show that moves. It was sloppy and awkward.

Gosso is a much more stylistic director compared to Park. He uses fantastic angles and atmosphere and color to convey the tone of scenes much better than Park does. His willingness to try new things at least once, just to see if they work, shows that he is someone who is still trying to learn more to get even better.

I'm terms of fight choreography, idk what y'all want, cause sometimes you want things to be 1:1 with the manga and other times you don't. the fights were adapted perfectly. And besides that. 90% of the fights were just people throwing out their long distance powers. What choreography do you want out of that. Round 2 was never supposed to be a fight anyway. This isn't Yuji where all he has is hands.

I can't dispute your taste in music personally i don't see much difference between seasons besides less rap. And I also pray you aren't one of the ones who thinks the "hollow purple" ost should've played during the honored one moment. Worst possible musical tone choice for that moment.

Anyway i like park when he's in more of an action storyboard and animator role. Season 2 of JJK is a much more visually sound product than even the movie was and definitely season 1. Probably won't change your mind but i like discussion.

Thank you for your detailed reply....and for making an attempt to understand where I am coming from. The others outright attack me...but they too have the right to do so because I am criticizing their beloved JJK S2.

Your comment really made me introspect. Maybe it's partly a problem with myself that I am still searching for S1 (and the movie) in S2. The changes are too drastic for me to handle. I love JJK and its characters...its ranked 1 in my favourites...the love for the franchise is bringing forth such a violent reaction within me to the changes introduced.
Maybe S2 is not meant for me...maybe I am too blind to appreciate these changes which the rest of the community has whole-heartedly welcomed.

I will nevertheless complete it (because its JJK)...but will refrain from ranting about it in the forums henceforth.

Thanks again for your comment...I am grateful.
Aug 3, 2023 5:25 AM
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It is weird but whatever it is i absolutely love it. Very cool and immersive. Not sure ab the osts i always skip those
Aug 3, 2023 8:29 AM
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Tristanteken said:
The goal is just to express a feeling that I have. Am I the only one feeling like some anime are trying to produce weirdly organized episodes just to follow a trend ? Don't get me wrong, I love Jujutsu Kaisen and I read the manga since a long time, I just feel like this season 2 is so weird for no reason : extremely random OSTs, sudden cuts, unconventional camera angles, completely out off topic scenes...
Is this maybe the influence of the very popular Chainsaw Man, known for breaking the rules of story telling, or am I completely wrong with my analysis ? 

Tell me you've never watched a GoHands production without telling me you've never watched a GoHands production. :)

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