Who is stronger between katakuri and king?

Jul 18, 2023 8:31 AM

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Zoro just defeated king with a handicapped, while luffy barely wins against katakuri. If katakuri and king are equal, does it mean pre-wano zoro is stronger than pre-wano luffy? Unless, katakuri is stronger than king.

Jul 18, 2023 8:40 AM

Timothy_Zlk3

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King 1000% is stronger than Katakuri

Jul 18, 2023 8:41 AM

OReafano

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Zoro got stronger during his fight with King.

And yeah King 100% is stronger, Katakuri was only a problem for Luffy because of his higher levels of haki. His durability was realllly bad.

King 100% beats Katakuri

Jul 18, 2023 8:41 AM

Timothy_Zlk3

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Also Luffy and Zoro (also Sanji but not as much) got huge buffs through Wano, so you can‘t even really compare them to Wholecake anymore.

Jul 18, 2023 8:42 AM

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pre wano luffy >> pre wano zoro
post wano luffy >> post wano zoro
King > katakuri (mid diff)

Jul 18, 2023 8:47 AM

SukuReal

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i really disagree with most people who say king is stronger than katakuri

i think katakuri is pretty stronger because higher level of haki ... we should stop judging only by bounty number

Jul 18, 2023 8:56 AM

G_L_N_H

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I think current arc zoro will always be stronger than luffy of previous arc.. that's how it's supposed to work right? I mean if captain has already defeated a enemy and if he shows himself again vice captain should be enough to defeat them.

Jul 18, 2023 10:15 AM

Manta130

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obviously King is stronger than Katakuri, they are not equals

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Jul 18, 2023 10:25 AM

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Jannie7 said:
Zoro just defeated king with a handicapped, while luffy barely wins against katakuri. If katakuri and king are equal, does it mean pre-wano zoro is stronger than pre-wano luffy? Unless, katakuri is stronger than king.

Here are my thoughts:-
1. King is a Zoan type DF user which is considered as strongest than any other type while Katakuri is a paramecia type.
2. Katakuri mastered the Advanced Observation Haki and can also manipulate his body kind of like a Logia user. King is fast ASF but downside is when his flames on his back goes out he is defenseless plus he has durable body which can withstand raging fire.
3. Both are super strong.
4. Size difference goes brrr....
So here is my final thoughts. In terms of tactics and observation, Katakuri slaps King but if straight up 1V1, King slaps Katakuri if he will use his man-beast form.

Jul 18, 2023 10:30 AM

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Manta130

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SukuReal said:
i really disagree with most people who say king is stronger than katakuri

i think katakuri is pretty stronger because higher level of haki ... we should stop judging only by bounty number

It's not judging only by bounty number, it's judging only by facts, King is faster than him because he's lunarian, stronger than him and more durable than him. when Luffy fought Katakuri, 10 hits was enough to defeat him but no matter how mamy times Katakuri would hit King he wouldn't do any damage and his future sight would be kinda useless when fighting with opponent who can move faster than he can look into the future.

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Jul 18, 2023 10:37 AM

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i would say that if we are talking about power king could be stronger, nevertheless he has a distinctive weakness that zoro was able to detect throughout the battle and I think katakuri would have got it too.
With his future sight level of observation haki he would be able to dodge the attacks until king would be open and then attack him.
We need to remember that katakuri has mastered all types of haki, and has awakened his devil fruit.
Even though it is not classified as logia he can still transform himself into mochi and create it freely, not only that but also change different object through the awakening.
So yeah unless king firepower is so strong to instantly burn katakuri mochi I don't think he would win in a standard fight.
We haven't really seen how good mochi deals with really powerfull flames so it is hard to tell.
Again it would need to be his most powerful attack with so big range that it couldn't been dodge and as powerful to go through strong armament haki and mochi defence.
If this attack wouldn't burned katakuri then he wins.

Jul 18, 2023 10:48 AM

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People forget for some reason Zoro unlocked Conquerors coating during the king fight and that's the entire reason why he won. Without it he wasn't able to significantly damage King's Lunarian body.

Since I don't think Katakuri has it, King probably wins but it's still high diff most likely. People act like Katakuri is a bum but he really was stronger than WCI Luffy

Jul 18, 2023 11:19 AM

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ItzMcrizzle

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I’d say post pre wano Luffy > Zoro, but Wano Zoro = g4 Luffy

Jul 18, 2023 12:43 PM

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Why people are comparing in terms of win or defeat .
katakuri had advanced observation haki and Luffy hadn't , that's why he was struggling.

in Katakuri v/s zoro , Zoro doesn't stand a chance unless he unlocks Advanced O. haki

in Katakuri v/s king , definitely King will win

Jul 18, 2023 12:44 PM

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Sports_Friday said:
People forget for some reason Zoro unlocked Conquerors coating during the king fight and that's the entire reason why he won. Without it he wasn't able to significantly damage King's Lunarian body.

Since I don't think Katakuri has it, King probably wins but it's still high diff most likely. People act like Katakuri is a bum but he really was stronger than WCI Luffy

Katakuri does have it

Jul 18, 2023 1:32 PM

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Jamil10

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The recently bias is crazy, Katakuri is stronger. Katakuri only lost to snakeman due to plot.

Jul 18, 2023 2:01 PM

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Sports_Friday

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steph_holyfield said:

Katakuri does have it

We've never seen him use it have we? unless im forgetting when it was shown later or mentioned in sbs.

Considering we didnt even learn about it until we were on the roof I think Katakuri only has regular conquerors, we only know like a very few number of top tiers that can use conqueror's coating

Jul 18, 2023 2:05 PM

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Sports_Friday said:

steph_holyfield said:

Katakuri does have it

My bad, i read it as conquerors instead of conquerors coating. You’re correct he doesn’t have it.

Jul 18, 2023 3:05 PM

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yea I feel like this isn't a hard question. Katakuri had hours on hours of fighting base Luffy and couldn't take him down, and gets damaged by him. Later in Wano base Luffy gets destroyed by Kaido, whereas Zoro was able to cut his skin. Later Zoro defeats King. So I mean there's your power scaling right there

Jul 18, 2023 4:24 PM

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I think Katakuri is stronger than King. Kat has few strong feats that puts him above King for me such as conquers haki, awakened df and future sight. Those feats puts Katakuri way over King. But King is a lunarian which gives him alot of durability plus he ate a zoan type df which gives him even better durability, but i dont think thats enough to make up for what Kat has. Also I saw people say that Zoro beat King because he awkened conquers when fighting king and was able to use conquers coating. I believe that Kat can also use conquers coating since Zoro learned it mid fight, which means Kat should be able to beat King.

Jul 18, 2023 5:35 PM

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Probably King based on his DF and the fact that he's part of a super rare tribe and was sought after by the WG. I'm not even taking bounties into account, because that's not an accurate way to judge power levels.

Jul 19, 2023 12:30 PM

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Sairollen

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King absolutely slaps Katakuri

Jul 19, 2023 3:58 PM

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Suzeray87

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Katakuri is probably stronger we all have to remember that fight with Luffy was merely training for Luffy to learn observation Haki. Look at crocodile… compare him in Alabasta vs Marineford and look at him now. He was nerfed in Alabasta. I think King went all out and gave 100% in his fight. I would say Katakuri probably put 60-70% of his max into his fight with Luffy. Considering he made a massive self-wound when frumpy interfered with their fight. If katakuri fight King… conquers Haki vs King’s engine. I’ll put all my money on Katakuri. Double or nothing.

Jul 19, 2023 4:07 PM

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OReafano said:
Zoro got stronger during his fight with King.

And yeah King 100% is stronger, Katakuri was only a problem for Luffy because of his higher levels of haki. His durability was realllly bad.

King 100% beats Katakuri

Well katakuri’s durability was fine… until he stabbed himself. Not a single fucking person is bringing up the fact that katakuri respected Luffy so much as a man… that he stabbed himself because of Flampe interference. If you’re using katakuri’s fight with Luffy as a baseline… then I’ll argue that katakuri was only at 60-70% max.

Jul 20, 2023 4:26 PM

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I love donut boi but I feel like king would pull ahead. it wouldn't be a stomp tho. Katakuri's biggest things are his future sight and special paramecia so if Zoro can figure out king's weakness then Kat for sure can. I just think King has better durability regardless, with his ancient zoans on top of being a lunarian, but it would probably end up being a long ass fight like Luffy vs Kat. Imo it just comes down to endurance and outlasting each other, and I think King would inch ahead.

Jul 20, 2023 6:03 PM

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Wafflexd978

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King for sure. Considering that during Zoro’s fight with King he advanced observation and armament haki and awakened his conquerors haki and still barely defeated him. While Pre-Wano Luffy only had basic forms of haki then awakened future sight to defeat Katakuri. So with that in mind I think that Post-Wano Zoro could beat Pre-Wano Luffy who beat Katakuri so that means that King could beat Katakuri as well. Although if they ever fought it would be really cool.

Jul 27, 2023 8:54 AM

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Probally Katakuri

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