One Piece Filler Leads to a Plot Hole.

Feb 15, 2023 10:39 AM

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do you know what filler is

Feb 15, 2023 10:41 AM

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ForgedSteel said:
I am only on ep 74ish so no spoilers please.

But I seem to have found a plot hole during the Apis arc. (Yes I know its filler) The Straw hats cross the calm belt with seemingly no trouble. Why is this a plot hole you may ask? Because if they can easily cross the calm belt, they can circumvent and ignore the entire grand line until they are parallel to Lodestone island and then cross the calm belt and land directly on it.

Am I missing something or is this a plot hole?

Yes that is a plot whole, but it’s filler so it is not counted as canon to the main story.

Feb 15, 2023 10:51 AM

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This ain't a plot hole because they didn't advance far on the Calm Belt. They were there for a minute and immediately attacked by Sea Kings.

There's no wind and they would also need to cross the Red Line(which isn't possible without being on the Grand Line)

Besides, they don't even have much knowledge of these waters. Furthermore, even if it was possible to take the route, Luffy would never roll with it. He loves his adventure too much to take a shortcut.

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Feb 15, 2023 10:54 AM

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I don't think that they traveled clam belt without any issue first as there are no winds they can't sail secondly. because of sea kings they can't even travel properly
Thus i think it's not a plot hole

Feb 15, 2023 11:09 AM

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SparCy said:

ForgedSteel said:
I am only on ep 74ish so no spoilers please.

But I seem to have found a plot hole during the Apis arc. (Yes I know its filler) The Straw hats cross the calm belt with seemingly no trouble. Why is this a plot hole you may ask? Because if they can easily cross the calm belt, they can circumvent and ignore the entire grand line until they are parallel to Lodestone island and then cross the calm belt and land directly on it.

Am I missing something or is this a plot hole?

Yes that is a plot whole, but it’s filler so it is not counted as canon to the main story.

You know this is a page for the anime right? Filler still counts towards the main story in the anime, this isn't a page for the manga just saying. They're two different versions of the story.

Feb 15, 2023 11:23 AM

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Black60Dragon said:

SparCy said:

Yes that is a plot whole, but it’s filler so it is not counted as canon to the main story.

You know this is a page for the anime right? Filler still counts towards the main story in the anime, this isn't a page for the manga just saying. They're two different versions of the story.

No the reason it’s called filler is cause the author has little to no involvement in it and it not counted as part of the canon material and doesn’t play any part into it later. There is such thing as anime canon though, which are episodes that were not originally in the manga but the author was involved in making, for one piece they were the following episodes, 50-51, 93, 213-216, 418-420, 453-456, 497-499, 506, 737, 775.

Feb 15, 2023 3:53 PM

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SparCy said:

Black60Dragon said:

You know this is a page for the anime right? Filler still counts towards the main story in the anime, this isn't a page for the manga just saying. They're two different versions of the story.

No the reason it’s called filler is cause the author has little to no involvement in it and it not counted as part of the canon material and doesn’t play any part into it later. There is such thing as anime canon though, which are episodes that were not originally in the manga but the author was involved in making, for one piece they were the following episodes, 50-51, 93, 213-216, 418-420, 453-456, 497-499, 506, 737, 775.

That has literally nothing to do with the anime. The anime and the manga have two entirely separate canons, so you saying it's not canon to the manga which this thread had nothing to do with is irrelevant. Your idea that there's this one grand canon across all adaptations simply isn't accurate.

Feb 15, 2023 4:14 PM

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In other news, water is wet.

Feb 15, 2023 4:41 PM

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Black60Dragon said:

SparCy said:

No the reason it’s called filler is cause the author has little to no involvement in it and it not counted as part of the canon material and doesn’t play any part into it later. There is such thing as anime canon though, which are episodes that were not originally in the manga but the author was involved in making, for one piece they were the following episodes, 50-51, 93, 213-216, 418-420, 453-456, 497-499, 506, 737, 775.

That has literally nothing to do with the anime. The anime and the manga have two entirely separate canons, so you saying it's not canon to the manga which this thread had nothing to do with is irrelevant. Your idea that there's this one grand canon across all adaptations simply isn't accurate.

For a anime/manga like one piece where everything is connected, filler is not important to the over arching story. At the end of day the anime IS adapting the manga, and anything outside of that material won’t be important to the story, as it would be in the manga if it was.

Feb 15, 2023 5:09 PM

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You know you could just look up what filler is. Then you wouldn’t have to fight so hard that “even if it’s filler it’s canon”.

You have to realize how big of a contradiction that is.

Feb 15, 2023 6:01 PM

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It’s just a filler, don’t worry about it. The team just made an oversight which doesn’t even effect the story because it’s not canon. It’s not significant unless it’s one of the anime canon episodes, which this was not.

Also, the One Piece manga story is the exact same as the anime, only difference being fillers which, again, are not ever canon.

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Feb 15, 2023 8:23 PM

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SparCy said:

Black60Dragon said:

That has literally nothing to do with the anime. The anime and the manga have two entirely separate canons, so you saying it's not canon to the manga which this thread had nothing to do with is irrelevant. Your idea that there's this one grand canon across all adaptations simply isn't accurate.

For a anime/manga like one piece where everything is connected, filler is not important to the over arching story. At the end of day the anime IS adapting the manga, and anything outside of that material won’t be important to the story, as it would be in the manga if it was.

"to the overarching story..._

in the manga 🙃 This isn't the manga. Secondly you just said the key word, adapting. It's an ADAPTATION, it's not the same story. Every fictional universe has its own canon, they are not bound by the same rules. With One Piece there are 3, yes 3 completely separate, different canons. The manga canon (the "main" one if you want to say that), the anime canon and the soon-to-be released Netflix one. They all exist within their own canon that does things slightly different from one another AND THAT'S OKAY.

I don't understand why so many people act like it's not. It's okay for the anime and the manga to be slightly different.

Feb 15, 2023 8:26 PM

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Usagi-san-chan said:
You know you could just look up what filler is. Then you wouldn’t have to fight so hard that “even if it’s filler it’s canon”.

You have to realize how big of a contradiction that is.

It's actually not, they're not antonyms they don't even refer to the same concept. Canon/Continuity is what happens in a fictional universe. Filler refers to episodes that don't progress the plot. Filler episodes still technically happen (IN THE ANIME NOT THE MANGA) whether you watch them or not, so they are in fact canon (IN THE ANIME NOT THE MANGA).

Adaptations have different canons from one another.

Feb 15, 2023 8:26 PM

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They didn’t cross the calm belt they accidentally floated into it and almost died but were saved by a sea king sneezing

Feb 16, 2023 2:04 AM

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Black60Dragon said:

SparCy said:

For a anime/manga like one piece where everything is connected, filler is not important to the over arching story. At the end of day the anime IS adapting the manga, and anything outside of that material won’t be important to the story, as it would be in the manga if it was.

"to the overarching story..._

in the manga 🙃 This isn't the manga. Secondly you just said the key word, adapting. It's an ADAPTATION, it's not the same story. Every fictional universe has its own canon, they are not bound by the same rules. With One Piece there are 3, yes 3 completely separate, different canons. The manga canon (the "main" one if you want to say that), the anime canon and the soon-to-be released Netflix one. They all exist within their own canon that does things slightly different from one another AND THAT'S OKAY.

I don't understand why so many people act like it's not. It's okay for the anime and the manga to be slightly different.

I am not saying fillers don’t happen. I am just saying they do not matter to the overall story, which you literally say in another post on this forum.
“Fillers refer to episodes that don’t progress the plot”. THAT WAS MY WHOLE GOD DAMN POINT. So this whole thing could be avoided if you actually understood what I was saying.

Feb 16, 2023 7:32 AM

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SparCy said:

Black60Dragon said:

"to the overarching story..._

in the manga 🙃 This isn't the manga. Secondly you just said the key word, adapting. It's an ADAPTATION, it's not the same story. Every fictional universe has its own canon, they are not bound by the same rules. With One Piece there are 3, yes 3 completely separate, different canons. The manga canon (the "main" one if you want to say that), the anime canon and the soon-to-be released Netflix one. They all exist within their own canon that does things slightly different from one another AND THAT'S OKAY.

I don't understand why so many people act like it's not. It's okay for the anime and the manga to be slightly different.

I am not saying fillers don’t happen. I am just saying they do not matter to the overall story, which you literally say in another post on this forum.
“Fillers refer to episodes that don’t progress the plot”. THAT WAS MY WHOLE GOD DAMN POINT. So this whole thing could be avoided if you actually understood what I was saying.

And yet, them still happening is what leads to the plothole 🙃 That was my point. Progressing the plot or not, like you said they happen and them happening contradicts something. It's just an interesting little trivia, relax.

Feb 16, 2023 12:44 PM

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Actually the whole part with the Calm Belt isn't even filler, it's in the manga but without Apis being there.

Feb 17, 2023 9:44 AM

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Raikou239 said:
In other news, water is wet.

thanks for the information

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