SakolE said: Okay, let's play a little game we will ask questions regarding Monster's plot and scenes with Johan that is illogical or realistically implausible and the answer should be "Because he is Johan" . Let's start; How did Johan escape from a burning building completely unharmed when all exists were blocked and the fire was spreading all around? Because he is Johan. Exits were not blocked, you saw Tenma shoot the dor and save a lot of people |
That...is actually a good question. How did he do that? |
SakolE said: Okay, let's play a little game we will ask questions regarding Monster's plot and scenes with Johan that is illogical or realistically implausible and the answer should be "Because he is Johan" . Let's start; How did Johan escape from a burning building completely unharmed when all exists were locked and the fire was spreading all around? Because he is Johan. Better question is how tf Roberto survived two gunshot wounds and a fall from like 30 feet in a burning building. |
n7pidgey said: Wasnt the candy wrapper just the kind that has the ends twisted, like a jolly rancher? its pretty easy to open those and retwist them closed. Ah that makes sense. But in that case, he probably replaced all the candies with poison, which means he knocked out more than 3 people in the hospital, off camera obviously. |
| How was Jesus born from a virgin woman? Because he is Johan. Not related to the topic, but I felt like I had to do this. |
 𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘺 𝘦𝘺𝘦𝘴, 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯’𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦. |
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| Been a long time since I read Monster, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember they said Johan founded and operated a bank at a very young age (like 13, 14). How was he able to do that? Because he's Johan |
DarkTitan007 said: PikaboyTK said: Better question is how tf Roberto survived two gunshot wounds and a fall from like 30 feet in a burning building. Because he is Roberto Understandable, have a nice day. |
| Why is Johan because? Because he is Johan. |
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| How did Johan manage to rock a dress and heels better than his sister? Because he is Johan. And because Monster's writing is weak af. |
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How did Johan manage to rock a dress and heels better than his sister?
Because he is Johan.
And because Monster's writing is weak af.
Because he is Johan.
And because Monster's writing is weak af.
SouthRzVa said: And because Monster's writing is weak af. True, and people act like Urasawa is the second coming of Jesus because of his genius writing. |
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SouthRzVa said:
And because Monster's writing is weak af.
And because Monster's writing is weak af.
True, and people act like Urasawa is the second coming of Jesus because of his genius writing.
| @Islesidrat Urasawa is great at writing antagonists , theyre not shown regularly , but you feel them is the shadows. Do you want a story to just spoon feed you every thing? Nothing is left for imagination then , straightforward stories can be a bit boring sometimes. |
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@Islesidrat Urasawa is great at writing antagonists , theyre not shown regularly , but you feel them is the shadows. Do you want a story to just spoon feed you every thing? Nothing is left for imagination then , straightforward stories can be a bit boring sometimes.
| @vinnywizanime It's one thing that they are not shown regularly (which is true and tbh I like this aspect of his works) but leaving plot holes up to the reader/watcher's imagination is another. You can't justify a plot hole by saying that you should just imagine what happened. |
Islesidrat said: @vinnywizanime It's one thing that they are not shown regularly (which is true and tbh I like this aspect of his works) but leaving plot holes up to the reader/watcher's imagination is another. You can't justify a plot hole by saying that you should just imagine what happened. can you give examples of these "purposely hidden plot holes". The way I saw monster, it seems to give you a pov of you being a detective trying to figure out johan. That's really fun to do. Isn't it amazing how much of a fanfav johan became without having much screentime? It's the mysteriousness about him that makes the public beg to see him. If everything is shown, it spoils what makes the character well written in the first place. Johan isnt perfect by any means, no human is. He made some mistakes if you allow me to write...Cuz I'm not one of those fans who think johan is invincible. |
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Islesidrat said:
@vinnywizanime It's one thing that they are not shown regularly (which is true and tbh I like this aspect of his works) but leaving plot holes up to the reader/watcher's imagination is another. You can't justify a plot hole by saying that you should just imagine what happened.
@vinnywizanime It's one thing that they are not shown regularly (which is true and tbh I like this aspect of his works) but leaving plot holes up to the reader/watcher's imagination is another. You can't justify a plot hole by saying that you should just imagine what happened.
can you give examples of these "purposely hidden plot holes". The way I saw monster, it seems to give you a pov of you being a detective trying to figure out johan. That's really fun to do. Isn't it amazing how much of a fanfav johan became without having much screentime? It's the mysteriousness about him that makes the public beg to see him. If everything is shown, it spoils what makes the character well written in the first place. Johan isnt perfect by any means, no human is. He made some mistakes if you allow me to write...Cuz I'm not one of those fans who think johan is invincible.
| @vinnywizanime It has been quite some time since i saw Monster, but just look back at some of the previous comments and I'm pretty sure you will be able to find something that is borderline impossible to explain. |
Islesidrat said: @vinnywizanime It has been quite some time since i saw Monster, but just look back at some of the previous comments and I'm pretty sure you will be able to find something that is borderline impossible to explain. hmm, surviving after two headshots is highly improbable, which Is what i thought too and still do but it won't be a plot hole as it is possible but just too improbable. But I'm guess you're objecting to him escaping the library? Or not showing how he killed Richard braun? Well first about Richard, it's one of the best decisions to now show what happened, it has become a debate and so fun to argue, I personally think johan didn't push him, I believe there was someone else there who killed Richard like johan did with the prostitute. Don't know if it was roberto but I don't think johan was armed with a gun , but my interpretation could change,it changes all the time, its so fun to interpret it in your own way tho. About the library, well clearly he had the staff dancing to his tunes, he obv wouldve pre planned this, notice how he stopped pointing his finger at his head when anna also came to the library, I think thats when he escaped. Probably an underground passage imo. Your interpretation? Or do you still think its a cover up for plot holes? |
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Islesidrat said:
@vinnywizanime It has been quite some time since i saw Monster, but just look back at some of the previous comments and I'm pretty sure you will be able to find something that is borderline impossible to explain.
@vinnywizanime It has been quite some time since i saw Monster, but just look back at some of the previous comments and I'm pretty sure you will be able to find something that is borderline impossible to explain.
hmm, surviving after two headshots is highly improbable, which Is what i thought too and still do but it won't be a plot hole as it is possible but just too improbable. But I'm guess you're objecting to him escaping the library? Or not showing how he killed Richard braun? Well first about Richard, it's one of the best decisions to now show what happened, it has become a debate and so fun to argue, I personally think johan didn't push him, I believe there was someone else there who killed Richard like johan did with the prostitute. Don't know if it was roberto but I don't think johan was armed with a gun , but my interpretation could change,it changes all the time, its so fun to interpret it in your own way tho. About the library, well clearly he had the staff dancing to his tunes, he obv wouldve pre planned this, notice how he stopped pointing his finger at his head when anna also came to the library, I think thats when he escaped. Probably an underground passage imo. Your interpretation? Or do you still think its a cover up for plot holes?
| @vinnywizanime I guess it just depends on the person. I, personally like if these kind of plot elements are shown, especially if a show's major selling point is good plot |
Islesidrat said: @vinnywizanime I guess it just depends on the person. I, personally like if these kind of plot elements are shown, especially if a show's major selling point is good plot Monster isn't your average show tho is it? Someone has to try and take a risk with new ideas. It's better if there's variety in the way stories are told, I guess we could atleast agree on this. Each to their own tho obv |
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Islesidrat said:
@vinnywizanime I guess it just depends on the person.
I, personally like if these kind of plot elements are shown, especially if a show's major selling point is good plot
@vinnywizanime I guess it just depends on the person.
I, personally like if these kind of plot elements are shown, especially if a show's major selling point is good plot
Monster isn't your average show tho is it? Someone has to try and take a risk with new ideas. It's better if there's variety in the way stories are told, I guess we could atleast agree on this.
Each to their own tho obv
| @vinnywizanime Yeah I guess you are right,it's true that it's narrative is kinda unique and I guess it just wasn't for me then |
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