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Apr 9, 2008 8:17 PM

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Well... there's a new character to introduce in Monster and it's Grimmer, I wonder if his a friend or foe? Overall this episode was good.
Apr 10, 2008 12:41 PM

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I wonder what kind of character Grimmer will turn into. From what we saw he seems to be a good guy, since he was investigating about the orphanage where Johan was. But what I found strange, was that he was able to track Tenma so quickly.

Dec 3, 2008 10:38 PM

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I'm pretty sure the scene with the shoeless kid was just so we know Grimmer is a good guy. He doesn't turn off his friendly face when important people stop looking.

Tenma is beating himself up too much about shooting Roberto. It was total self-defense. Nobody blames him.
Dec 27, 2008 6:03 PM

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Grimmer is totally a good guy :|

He gives of a kind of Mushishi vibe...
Mar 8, 2009 8:37 PM

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Tenma's emotional situation is so unstable now...Of course it was self-defense when he shoot Roberto was the first time he shot someone,and killed him.He used to save lives and now he took one.It's only natural to be all messed up...however,he doesn't have the luxury to worry about it,he has a target to focus on as he has decided...
Wow,Prague really is a city like a fairy-tale country...
Mar 14, 2009 5:55 AM

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I like Grimmer, a very resourceful man.
Aug 12, 2009 1:47 PM

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Damn they've slowed the pace right back down again and gone back to the side-stories and characters :(
Oct 14, 2009 1:59 PM

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wasn't this just an useless episode?
Feb 3, 2010 12:12 PM

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Very interesting episode indeed. We are introduced to another character. And it seems that we will stick with him for quite a few episodes. Maybe even until the end. He is highly related to the story.

Grimmer's character is really interesting. He seems to be such a good guy. Helping everyone. Maybe even naive. But he has a really strange aura around him. As if he is evil inside. Although, evil sensation could only be a reflection of his genius. He seemed really smart. I am quite sure that Tenma's and Grimmer's paths will cross again in near future.

Tenma's emotional state so screwed after the incident with Roberto. His inside is all messed up and we can see that it affects his rationalism. His actions seem to be a little less illogical than what we are used to see in Tenma.
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Mar 1, 2010 11:52 PM

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Watching it on Scifi.
Grimmer is such a bro.

Sounds like Patrick Seitz is voicing him.
Sep 2, 2010 2:50 PM

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I guess for all the bad people that Temna attracts, good people also manage to find him.
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Nov 13, 2010 5:49 PM

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grimmer is such an interesting character for the most part he is a reall
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May 17, 2011 11:57 PM

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Feb 14, 2012 1:42 PM

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arnxx said:
wasn't this just an useless episode?

every second episode in monster is useless

unclesnapple said:
I'm pretty sure the scene with the shoeless kid was just so we know Grimmer is a good guy. He doesn't turn off his friendly face when important people stop looking.

i agere, they purposely introduced him as a great guy
Mar 4, 2012 9:22 PM

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Lol the bag trick worked to help Tenma.
Mar 15, 2012 1:22 PM

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good guy grimmer
Sep 24, 2012 8:16 AM

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man I really though Kinderheim would come up when Tenma and Grimmer were talking, he would have gotten everything he needed to know... Although not sure citing a serial killer as your source for information about child abuse in orphanages is a good idea. Also while I don't think Grimmer is a bad guy, I don't think he is going to be a completely good guy either.
Dec 18, 2012 9:03 AM

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Episode was good.

About Episode:

So we have again new character this time young guy named Grimmer. He seems to have same kind of hobby like Gin form Bleach. keeping his eyes closed.

Also funny part was that looks like he is also investigating kinderhaim 511 and also is interested about Tenma that's why he helped him in that train. It was also pretty weird that those guards notices right away that passport is fake with was in Tenma.

So Grimmer is also against Evil and don't like bad people. At least I got that kind of image of him in this episode. He will also I believe to be connected to current plot line. I am pretty sure he learns about Johan while staying in Praha.

I kind of hate Tenma's character now because he don't talk much and is really angry for most of the time. But I guess this can be considered as shock.

Haha that guy in station told lie to Grimmer and he fell for it. There goes his money haha.

Now we finally are going to heard what really happened in Kinderhaim 511 and saw Reinhard Biermann director which is been missing and looks like his been living in Prague quite long time now.

Jan 29, 2013 4:41 AM

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Grimmer is a very interesting character. Also he is researching 511 Kinderhaim so I guess we should learn something new soon.

Mar 4, 2013 6:58 AM

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Pocketasces said:
arnxx said:
wasn't this just an useless episode?

every second episode in monster is useless

Unfortunately I find this to be extremely true. Alot of people seem to like throwing the word "filler" around
Mar 19, 2013 9:01 AM
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I wonder on what purposes they created Grimm character?...He's acting good now..but sometime I feel he's creepy deep inside. More important finally russians appeared in this tv series...
Apr 27, 2013 3:05 PM

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I wonder if Grimmer is going to be a friend of a foe. But the way he helped the kid shows that he is has a good personality.
Aug 20, 2013 11:02 AM
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I wonder if Grimmer is really a good guy he acts like he doesn't know but he really knows.
Oct 19, 2013 1:17 AM

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Grimmer seems like a nice guy.

despite being tricked by that scammer, he doesn't mind it for some reason :P

man i'm glad Tenma is being easily identified in the episode. there's not really a lot of Japanese people during this period other than business and foreign interests.

so Grimmer knows the director of 511 Kinderheim ^^

slow episode since we just finished the library incident.

i hope they move forward the plot more!
Dec 9, 2013 12:59 PM

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Hm, I wonder if something grim will happen later on...
Dec 23, 2013 10:23 PM
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Apr 29, 2014 2:17 PM

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The introduction of yet another fascinating character. I really hope Grimmer gets plenty of attention, it seems like he's going to be an intriguing one.

billng said:
Pocketasces said:
arnxx said:
wasn't this just an useless episode?

every second episode in monster is useless

Unfortunately I find this to be extremely true. Alot of people seem to like throwing the word "filler" around

Given the way this story has been carrying itself, I think both "useless" and "filler" are inaccurate. Slow and careful build ups, character introductions, and plot development is exactly what's making this so addicting and why I've enjoyed nearly every episode so far.
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Jun 4, 2014 6:46 PM

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arnxx said:
wasn't this just an useless episode?

what?? am i watching the same show? lol

tenma won't refer to himself as a doctor anymore because he shot someone that would have otherwise killed him? that's self defense. my prediction is by the end tenma's character will develop to where his actions can be twisted and worded to make him the "monster", but unless it somehow turns out that johan is tenma in some form, i won't be satisfied with that conclusion.

i wonder if grimmer's fairy tale comment about prague an the end is foreshadowing a piece of johan's history that took place (in prague) referenced in the picture book. excited to hear about the 511 director
Nov 19, 2014 10:53 PM

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I really should watch Monster more often.

Grimmer seems like another potentially fascinating character. He seems to be a good judge of character. Given his comment to Tenma that he can tell the difference between who's really innocent or guilty, I don't think he was scammed in the train station. Beyond that, he seems somewhat pleasant, though there must be some sort of drive for him to be investigating Kinderheim.

Tenma's reaction is pretty realistic, although it was only self-defense. Shooting someone is a traumatic experience; though his guilt may be ill-founded, it's understandable. I just hope, as vibskov above, that the narrative doesn't end up framing Tenma as a monster for his actions. He's done nothing wrong up until now.

It was a very interesting episode.
Jan 6, 2015 8:36 AM

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Very nice episode. Grimmer seems like a cool guy.
Feb 3, 2015 1:26 AM

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Looks like we have a new character! Grimmer seems like an intriguing character. Quite an upbeat guy from what I can tell. I like him so far.

The way Grimmer smiled when he said that his child was dead was slightly creepy. I'm really wondering if Grimmer is able to feel any other emotion besides happiness?

I wonder what kind of role Grimmer will play in the story?

This episode was a nice change of pace. I liked it.

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Feb 17, 2015 2:27 AM

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Grimmer seems to be an interesting character, definitely has sharp eyes.
Mar 31, 2015 7:03 AM

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Nice episode, had dat SoL feeling into it.

Grimmer looks nice.

That director's face at the end lel.
Jul 20, 2015 8:08 AM

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Refreshing episode. Grimmer's an interesting character, not too sure on his motives. Definitely excited, as now, while Tenma finds the twin's mother, Grimmer can investigate what happened in Kinderheim 511. The pieces are moving!
Jul 30, 2015 10:28 PM

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Aug 31, 2015 9:59 PM

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Grimmer is pure greatness!!! I really hope that we see plenty more of him in the future.
Sep 15, 2015 4:55 AM

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Liking Grimmer, can't wait to find out his true motives, could his dead son be connected Kinderheim 511? and by finding the director he's certainly pushed the plot quicker than Tenma ever could have. The train scene was pretty cool too.

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Sep 24, 2015 5:09 PM
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I like this Grimmer guy.
Dec 15, 2015 11:42 AM

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Grimmer definitly looks like an interesting character. I hope he can contribute more to the plot.
Jan 10, 2016 11:01 AM

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I really like Grimmer! I hope he is a friend. At least this is what he seems to be. He always has a smile but I believe he is a tortured and complicated soul.

I feel sorry for Tenma, his whole philosophy is ruined from shooting Roberto but I believe he will understand what Grimmer said about things you have to do.

Interesting relaxing episode with a new character!
Jun 1, 2016 2:04 PM

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Grimmer is a really interesting fellow, being tricked like that at the station, that was so obvious, I wonder how did he believe that guy.
He was funny when he gave that kid his shoes.
I wonder how can he laugh like that when he talks about his dead son.
Jul 12, 2016 4:32 AM

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This guy (Grimmer) has a lot of favorites for a supporting character in a show with great cast and not so popular, so i think he has a lot to show in the next episodes.
Good introduction.
Good Episode.
Jan 26, 4:35 PM

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grimmer seems great, I like him.
Jan 29, 9:18 PM

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I think you could make a strong case for Grimmer being one of the best supporting characters in anime. So, yeah, there is definitely a good reason for his introduction.
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Jan 31, 10:44 AM
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i really like Grimmer as a character and as a journalist, he lets things on their own and investigates without interfering
Jun 14, 12:21 AM

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I wonder if Grimmer will play a big role in this story in terms of he is gonna survive until the end of this story...
Jun 18, 3:26 AM

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Grimmer seems like a good guy, might be a solid ally
He might have bigger sins than Tenma but... It's all in the past xD

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Jun 20, 10:22 AM

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A new charecter. Hope he's a good guy. He seems to know a lot more than he should.
Aug 8, 9:50 AM

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I like Grimmer so far; seems like a genuinely nice guy
Nov 1, 7:26 AM

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Another new guy character we had in this episode. He helped Tenma to escape the train. He seems a good guy, huh? I hope he's not one of those frenemies of the main character.