Orsted vs Reinhard ( both full power ) | LN Spoilers

opDYNO said:
I have read LN quite a bit , but i don't know this another person yet , CAN SOMEONE SPOIL/ introduce a bit (+_+), wait is he from re zero by chance ?

DIA133 said:

ah so u not understand the pure amount of hacks that Reinhardt possesses allow me to list some along with what they do.

Sword Saint: Reinhard is the current Sword Saint as the current holder of the Divine Protection of the Sword Saint, which he inherited when he was 5 years old. Swordsmanship maxes out, and become able to draw Reid, the Dragon Sword. The blessing of being able to "break the unbreakable".

Arrow Avoidance: He cannot be hit by projectiles and long-distance attacks won’t hit Reinhard as the blessing causes thrown weapons such as knives to change their trajectory, effectively making it impossible for them to hit him, as shown in episode 3 of the anime, the trajectory of Elsa's thrown weapon was changed when aimed at him.

Arrow Guarantee: Any projectile he uses is guaranteed to hit the target.

Magic Resistance: No curses, debuffs, or buffs can affect him.

Earth Resistance: Earth magic has an 80% reduced effect on him.

Water Reflection: 80% of water magic is reflected.
Darkness Immunity: 80% of dark magic is nullified.

Light Sharing: 80% of light magic is shared to another target.

Swiftness: He can move at superhuman speed. This affects mounts as well.

Riding Mastery: He can ride any animals.

Initiative: He cannot be ambushed, and all initial attacks from Reinhard connect.

First Attack Immunity: The first time an attack is performed at Reinhardt, it always misses.

Proceeding Attack Immunity: The second attack and all following attacks miss him.

Rain Blessing: He gains power in rain.

Sun Blessing: He gains power in sunny weather.

Fire Avoidance: 80% reduction from fire damage.

Wind Absorption: 80% of wind magic is absorbed.

Night's Blessing: He gains power during the night.

Morning Blessing: He gains power during the morning.

Mind Reading: Vague understanding of what's on other people's mind.

Item Mastery: Able to know how to use any item he holds.

Unarmed Mastery: Very strong even without any weapons. He can use a swordless style of fighting in which he uses his hand like a sword

AND THIS IS ONLY LIKE HALF OF IT. SO NEEDLESS TO SAY, HE'S PRETTY BROKEN

notsofamousxD said:
He is our dream game character

DIA133 said:

ah so u not understand the pure amount of hacks that Reinhardt possesses allow me to list some along with what they do.

Sword Saint: Reinhard is the current Sword Saint as the current holder of the Divine Protection of the Sword Saint, which he inherited when he was 5 years old. Swordsmanship maxes out, and become able to draw Reid, the Dragon Sword. The blessing of being able to "break the unbreakable".

Arrow Avoidance: He cannot be hit by projectiles and long-distance attacks won’t hit Reinhard as the blessing causes thrown weapons such as knives to change their trajectory, effectively making it impossible for them to hit him, as shown in episode 3 of the anime, the trajectory of Elsa's thrown weapon was changed when aimed at him.

Arrow Guarantee: Any projectile he uses is guaranteed to hit the target.

Magic Resistance: No curses, debuffs, or buffs can affect him.

Earth Resistance: Earth magic has an 80% reduced effect on him.

Water Reflection: 80% of water magic is reflected.
Darkness Immunity: 80% of dark magic is nullified.

Light Sharing: 80% of light magic is shared to another target.

Swiftness: He can move at superhuman speed. This affects mounts as well.

Riding Mastery: He can ride any animals.

Initiative: He cannot be ambushed, and all initial attacks from Reinhard connect.

First Attack Immunity: The first time an attack is performed at Reinhardt, it always misses.

Proceeding Attack Immunity: The second attack and all following attacks miss him.

Rain Blessing: He gains power in rain.

Sun Blessing: He gains power in sunny weather.

Fire Avoidance: 80% reduction from fire damage.

Wind Absorption: 80% of wind magic is absorbed.

Night's Blessing: He gains power during the night.

Morning Blessing: He gains power during the morning.

Mind Reading: Vague understanding of what's on other people's mind.

Item Mastery: Able to know how to use any item he holds.

Unarmed Mastery: Very strong even without any weapons. He can use a swordless style of fighting in which he uses his hand like a sword

AND THIS IS ONLY LIKE HALF OF IT. SO NEEDLESS TO SAY, HE'S PRETTY BROKEN

DIA133 said:

ah so u not understand the pure amount of hacks that Reinhardt possesses allow me to list some along with what they do.

Sword Saint: Reinhard is the current Sword Saint as the current holder of the Divine Protection of the Sword Saint, which he inherited when he was 5 years old. Swordsmanship maxes out, and become able to draw Reid, the Dragon Sword. The blessing of being able to "break the unbreakable".

Arrow Avoidance: He cannot be hit by projectiles and long-distance attacks won’t hit Reinhard as the blessing causes thrown weapons such as knives to change their trajectory, effectively making it impossible for them to hit him, as shown in episode 3 of the anime, the trajectory of Elsa's thrown weapon was changed when aimed at him.

Arrow Guarantee: Any projectile he uses is guaranteed to hit the target.

Magic Resistance: No curses, debuffs, or buffs can affect him.

Earth Resistance: Earth magic has an 80% reduced effect on him.

Water Reflection: 80% of water magic is reflected.
Darkness Immunity: 80% of dark magic is nullified.

Light Sharing: 80% of light magic is shared to another target.

Swiftness: He can move at superhuman speed. This affects mounts as well.

Riding Mastery: He can ride any animals.

Initiative: He cannot be ambushed, and all initial attacks from Reinhard connect.

First Attack Immunity: The first time an attack is performed at Reinhardt, it always misses.

Proceeding Attack Immunity: The second attack and all following attacks miss him.

Rain Blessing: He gains power in rain.

Sun Blessing: He gains power in sunny weather.

Fire Avoidance: 80% reduction from fire damage.

Wind Absorption: 80% of wind magic is absorbed.

Night's Blessing: He gains power during the night.

Morning Blessing: He gains power during the morning.

Mind Reading: Vague understanding of what's on other people's mind.

Item Mastery: Able to know how to use any item he holds.

Unarmed Mastery: Very strong even without any weapons. He can use a swordless style of fighting in which he uses his hand like a sword

AND THIS IS ONLY LIKE HALF OF IT. SO NEEDLESS TO SAY, HE'S PRETTY BROKEN

GreiLugaj said:
With curse, I'd say Reinhard wins. Orsted without curse...he'd probably one shot Reinhard.

Anilegos said:


Hope you've also read Mushoku Tensei as well. Orsted is pretty much broken at that level and has list of hacks too. The first dragon god destroyed 6 planets but Orsted is said to be even stronger than him. He have all the light speed and time hacks as well. Curses lifted Orsted might probably have a chance against him. I don't know Orsted's full power so I'm going with Reinhard. That's why I'm actually looking for someone who had read both novels😅

Anilegos said:

Didn't he say Orsted is the strongest Dragon God?🤔 where does Orsted scales from what you think?

Anilegos said:


Hope you've also read Mushoku Tensei as well. Orsted is pretty much broken at that level and has list of hacks too. The first dragon god destroyed 6 planets but Orsted is said to be even stronger than him. He have all the light speed and time hacks as well. Curses lifted Orsted might probably have a chance against him. I don't know Orsted's full power so I'm going with Reinhard. That's why I'm actually looking for someone who had read both novels😅

Anilegos said:

Which Mushoku Tensei novel volume I can find about it?

DaJickey said:

Can you give the other half of it for scientific purposes?

SmilingIceCube said:

You can't one shot something that you can't hit. Even if it somehow worked once, Reinhard would revive and it wouldn't work again.

GreiLugaj said:

Orsted without the curse can destroy the entire world easily, one moving target ain't gonna stop him. And I'm talking in a neutral dimension, so Reinhards revival won't work.

RioFS said:
Copypasta from a similar thread but in Re: Zero:

Reinhard shit-stomps even if you remove the curses from Oersted. He wouldn't even need any Divine Blessings except the Sword Saint one.
Stick-Swinger Reid is a more fair match.



That wasn't even the full list. Additionally, the Dragon Sword can restructure continents and he automatically absorbs mana in the air so most magic attacks are rendered useless, as if they weren't already.

DKDiabloLicht said:
So ridiculous, If Subaru was smart he would make up with Reinhart, be BEST friends with him(he's a great guy anyway) and he can solve 99.9% of his problems. Still curious of how tf anyone could kill Pandora.

RioFS said:

Firstly, they are friends.

Secondly, Reinhard serves the Felt Camp. He would need Echidna's help to get Reinhard to his camp but that brings its own set of problems.

DKDiabloLicht said:
Well according to the show he was a dick the last time, and I'm pretty sure he could bring him around for problems. Reinhart could have destroyed the bunnies I'm sure.

RioFS said:

By the time he goes to fetch Reinhard and comes back, it would already be over though.

DKDiabloLicht said:


Yeah I guess, and wouldn't want a solve all in a story, just saying realistically of you had someone like 90s Mike Tyson around who would punch everyone for you, would be nice to lean on them realistically lol

KevinzMal said:
If you don't know, if you remove Orsted's curse and give him full power. Simply put, the world can be destroyed instantly by him. He also can manipulate gravity, power, even time.

JustGabe20 said:

Sorry but the way reinhardt was even written was to be absolutely crazy OP his blessings can basically make him invincible to any type of attack or environment and he can literally resurrect from death

DIA133 said:

Yup here's more

Blessing of War God: Able to use any weapons masterfully, this extends to even things like iron pipes or disposable chopsticks, he can easily use them as weapons to cut through things.

Blessing of Lake: Can walk on water, can also be used to submerge himself in water if he wishes.

Blessing of Mist: Mist does not hinder his view.

Blessing of Cloud: Can walk on clouds.

Blessing of Lightning: Lightning will never strike him.

Sodium Knowledge: He will never get salt and sugar mixed up.

Taste King: No matter how or what he cooks, the food will come out delicious.

Blessing of Frying, Steaming, Boiling: Complete mastery of all the cooking methods.

Clothes Designing: Can design fabulous clothes that will surely start a fad.

Master Teacher: His students become successful in learning.

Training Mastery: Can train not only his body but also other people, to their maximum potential.

Poison Immunity: Immunity to all poisons.

Illness Immunity: Immunity to all diseases.

Power Bleeding: Bleeding actually makes him stronger.

Blessing of the Phoenix: Upon death, he is granted a "continue?" once. He has already used this blessing in his fight with Regulus. However, while it has been stated he can't receive the same blessing endlessly after he uses Blessing of the Phoenix, he will acquire Blessing of the Phoenix continued, and so on and so forth. In other words, HE CAN RESURRECT ENDLESSLY.

Judgment: Enables Reinhard to know of any Divine Protections his opponents have.

Unknown Blessing: It has been stated that if a tactical nuke was used on Reinhard it wouldn't go off.

Wind Evasion: A blessing that only ground dragons should have, it enables Reinhard to be unaffected by the wind and not encounter any wind resistance while running.

Telepathy: Allows Reinhard to tell other people his thoughts telepathically. While it's normally used to tell close friends certain thoughts, it can be combined with singing to increase the strength and effect range.

Precognition: He has a super sense which through his intuition alerts him of danger, and distinguishes all attacks in advance

he also has the power to wish for any Divine blessings. meaning anything that he doesn't have he can have.

I think that's it

Anilegos said:
Curious to see who's winning this fight?