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Apr 19, 2022 12:39 AM
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So I just finished Shadows House and I must say I really enjoyed it, but I did notice the overall quality dip in the final three episodes, now that season 2 is on the way I was just wondering how exactly was the anime ending changed compared to the manga, was this a completely filler arc that can simply slot in between season 1 and 2, if that's the case was there anything massively spoiled that could effect the future (like them finding out they are human) or was this something that completely threw out future development and will cause issues or be outright ignored when it comes to season 2?
Apr 19, 2022 3:47 AM
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I will try to make it quick, the anime made a very bad approach, like ignoring 90% of the original personality the characters had in the manga. For example, in later chapters it becomes very clear that Edward would never kidnap someone so lightly, not because he is too kind to do so, rather because there is too much that can go wrong and will damage him in the aftermath. But wait, there is more! You thought the last 3 episodes were the only thing the anime changed and made so much worse? Well, in the episode were Emiliko and the other 2 are searching for the culprit behind the soot-sickness accident in the middle of the night, they skipped Rope-sama, a character that should have been very important for the next arc, but you guessed it, this arc isn't gonna happen in the anime because the last 3 episodes skipped way too much to return to the manga route again.
If I had to guess, they are trying to go that Promised Neverland S2 route again with Shadows House. I mean, the manga is still running after all. I really don't want to be that guy, but read the manga. First, catch up on the missing character in chapter 18-20 and then read from chapter 47 onward. I would advise you to do so, the manga is always in full color and the art is amazing. But if you don't want to, than this is fine too. Important is that you enjoy the experience.
Apr 19, 2022 4:03 AM
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Deku251 said:
I will try to make it quick, the anime made a very bad approach, like ignoring 90% of the original personality the characters had in the manga. For example, in later chapters it becomes very clear that Edward would never kidnap someone so lightly, not because he is too kind to do so, rather because there is too much that can go wrong and will damage him in the aftermath. But wait, there is more! You thought the last 3 episodes were the only thing the anime changed and made so much worse? Well, in the episode were Emiliko and the other 2 are searching for the culprit behind the soot-sickness accident in the middle of the night, they skipped Rope-sama, a character that should have been very important for the next arc, but you guessed it, this arc isn't gonna happen in the anime because the last 3 episodes skipped way too much to return to the manga route again.
If I had to guess, they are trying to go that Promised Neverland S2 route again with Shadows House. I mean, the manga is still running after all. I really don't want to be that guy, but read the manga. First, catch up on the missing character in chapter 18-20 and then read from chapter 47 onward. I would advise you to do so, the manga is always in full color and the art is amazing. But if you don't want to, than this is fine too. Important is that you enjoy the experience.


I take it from that this was a completely anime original ending and not taken from some point in the manga, though considering that, how much harm has been done if they just continue on as is, like how would plot points like knowing they are human, and figuring out the Soot Tea brainwashes people influence the story going forward?
Apr 19, 2022 6:34 AM
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From what I understand the last 3 episodes are completely anime original and are probably gonna be ignored a la Black Butler in season 2

I don't think they're doing the same thing as TPN since the manga isn't finished yet and they don't have an ending to rush towards

During the airing of season 1, the author said that they helped to write a story that could be told in one season (including skipping that one character) and that they would try to figure out a way to write them back in if it ever got a second season. So I don't think there's anything to worry about.
Apr 19, 2022 6:39 AM
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MoltenFlame said:
Deku251 said:
I will try to make it quick, the anime made a very bad approach, like ignoring 90% of the original personality the characters had in the manga. For example, in later chapters it becomes very clear that Edward would never kidnap someone so lightly, not because he is too kind to do so, rather because there is too much that can go wrong and will damage him in the aftermath. But wait, there is more! You thought the last 3 episodes were the only thing the anime changed and made so much worse? Well, in the episode were Emiliko and the other 2 are searching for the culprit behind the soot-sickness accident in the middle of the night, they skipped Rope-sama, a character that should have been very important for the next arc, but you guessed it, this arc isn't gonna happen in the anime because the last 3 episodes skipped way too much to return to the manga route again.
If I had to guess, they are trying to go that Promised Neverland S2 route again with Shadows House. I mean, the manga is still running after all. I really don't want to be that guy, but read the manga. First, catch up on the missing character in chapter 18-20 and then read from chapter 47 onward. I would advise you to do so, the manga is always in full color and the art is amazing. But if you don't want to, than this is fine too. Important is that you enjoy the experience.


I take it from that this was a completely anime original ending and not taken from some point in the manga, though considering that, how much harm has been done if they just continue on as is, like how would plot points like knowing they are human, and figuring out the Soot Tea brainwashes people influence the story going forward?
I don't think that they will follow the manga with how much they have done in the last 3 episodes. As you pointed out, a lot of plot twists from future arcs were already explained, so even if they follow the manga from here, it wouldn't make any sense story wise.
Apr 19, 2022 7:35 AM
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Deku251 said:
MoltenFlame said:


I take it from that this was a completely anime original ending and not taken from some point in the manga, though considering that, how much harm has been done if they just continue on as is, like how would plot points like knowing they are human, and figuring out the Soot Tea brainwashes people influence the story going forward?
I don't think that they will follow the manga with how much they have done in the last 3 episodes. As you pointed out, a lot of plot twists from future arcs were already explained, so even if they follow the manga from here, it wouldn't make any sense story wise.


I see, well thank you for confirming that it indeed was completely anime original, both of you, I suppose now only time will tell what they do with the second season, I hope they choose to ignore the final three episode like MagicPolly there suggested
Apr 19, 2022 9:08 AM
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Deku251 said:
I will try to make it quick, the anime made a very bad approach, like ignoring 90% of the original personality the characters had in the manga. For example, in later chapters it becomes very clear that Edward would never kidnap someone so lightly, not because he is too kind to do so, rather because there is too much that can go wrong and will damage him in the aftermath. But wait, there is more! You thought the last 3 episodes were the only thing the anime changed and made so much worse? Well, in the episode were Emiliko and the other 2 are searching for the culprit behind the soot-sickness accident in the middle of the night, they skipped Rope-sama, a character that should have been very important for the next arc, but you guessed it, this arc isn't gonna happen in the anime because the last 3 episodes skipped way too much to return to the manga route again.
If I had to guess, they are trying to go that Promised Neverland S2 route again with Shadows House. I mean, the manga is still running after all. I really don't want to be that guy, but read the manga. First, catch up on the missing character in chapter 18-20 and then read from chapter 47 onward. I would advise you to do so, the manga is always in full color and the art is amazing. But if you don't want to, than this is fine too. Important is that you enjoy the experience.

Even with the cut content and the three episodes of filler mixed with major points such as their late night reunion, Edward soot power and the mysterious shapeshifting morph, they are trying to make it return to the manga route.

As for Kate and John realizing the living dolls are humans is ok because it does happens right after the debut, but they can't tell the others because they must earn their trust first.

The reason for all the changes is because Somato were told to fit a provisional ending for the anime because they were unsure of a second season happening.

However, it did happen and second season will adapt Robe-sama arc which is too important to ignore, it even has a confirmed visual and their appearance can be included either with a flashback of the first soot incident or with the addition of a third soot incident.
Apr 19, 2022 11:41 AM
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Deku251 said:
I will try to make it quick, the anime made a very bad approach, like ignoring 90% of the original personality the characters had in the manga. For example, in later chapters it becomes very clear that Edward would never kidnap someone so lightly, not because he is too kind to do so, rather because there is too much that can go wrong and will damage him in the aftermath. But wait, there is more! You thought the last 3 episodes were the only thing the anime changed and made so much worse? Well, in the episode were Emiliko and the other 2 are searching for the culprit behind the soot-sickness accident in the middle of the night, they skipped Rope-sama, a character that should have been very important for the next arc, but you guessed it, this arc isn't gonna happen in the anime because the last 3 episodes skipped way too much to return to the manga route again.
If I had to guess, they are trying to go that Promised Neverland S2 route again with Shadows House. I mean, the manga is still running after all. I really don't want to be that guy, but read the manga. First, catch up on the missing character in chapter 18-20 and then read from chapter 47 onward. I would advise you to do so, the manga is always in full color and the art is amazing. But if you don't want to, than this is fine too. Important is that you enjoy the experience.
you ignoring that sequel is gonna adapt that missing character. Your assumption are all baseless that has no evidence whatsoever. Are you new anime watcher or just manga elitist? And you just comapared it to TPN s2 which invalidates your all points making your doompost nonsense as starters. And changes in last 3 episodes are not major dont make your own narrative that its exxaggerated as heck


Apr 19, 2022 11:55 AM
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Bearan said:
Deku251 said:
I will try to make it quick, the anime made a very bad approach, like ignoring 90% of the original personality the characters had in the manga. For example, in later chapters it becomes very clear that Edward would never kidnap someone so lightly, not because he is too kind to do so, rather because there is too much that can go wrong and will damage him in the aftermath. But wait, there is more! You thought the last 3 episodes were the only thing the anime changed and made so much worse? Well, in the episode were Emiliko and the other 2 are searching for the culprit behind the soot-sickness accident in the middle of the night, they skipped Rope-sama, a character that should have been very important for the next arc, but you guessed it, this arc isn't gonna happen in the anime because the last 3 episodes skipped way too much to return to the manga route again.
If I had to guess, they are trying to go that Promised Neverland S2 route again with Shadows House. I mean, the manga is still running after all. I really don't want to be that guy, but read the manga. First, catch up on the missing character in chapter 18-20 and then read from chapter 47 onward. I would advise you to do so, the manga is always in full color and the art is amazing. But if you don't want to, than this is fine too. Important is that you enjoy the experience.

Even with the cut content and the three episodes of filler mixed with major points such as their late night reunion, Edward soot power and the mysterious shapeshifting morph, they are trying to make it return to the manga route.

As for Kate and John realizing the living dolls are humans is ok because it does happens right after the debut, but they can't tell the others because they must earn their trust first.

The reason for all the changes is because Somato were told to fit a provisional ending for the anime because they were unsure of a second season happening.

However, it did happen and second season will adapt Robe-sama arc which is too important to ignore, it even has a confirmed visual and their appearance can be included either with a flashback of the first soot incident or with the addition of a third soot incident.


So I take it from what you are saying is that while yes the last three episodes were completely anime original not to much was spoiled in them and now that season 2 has been greenlit they plan to rectify that?
Apr 19, 2022 12:44 PM
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MoltenFlame said:
Bearan said:

Even with the cut content and the three episodes of filler mixed with major points such as their late night reunion, Edward soot power and the mysterious shapeshifting morph, they are trying to make it return to the manga route.

As for Kate and John realizing the living dolls are humans is ok because it does happens right after the debut, but they can't tell the others because they must earn their trust first.

The reason for all the changes is because Somato were told to fit a provisional ending for the anime because they were unsure of a second season happening.

However, it did happen and second season will adapt Robe-sama arc which is too important to ignore, it even has a confirmed visual and their appearance can be included either with a flashback of the first soot incident or with the addition of a third soot incident.


So I take it from what you are saying is that while yes the last three episodes were completely anime original not to much was spoiled in them and now that season 2 has been greenlit they plan to rectify that?
Yeah, pretty much
Apr 20, 2022 3:47 AM
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Bearan said:
MoltenFlame said:


So I take it from what you are saying is that while yes the last three episodes were completely anime original not to much was spoiled in them and now that season 2 has been greenlit they plan to rectify that?
Yeah, pretty much


Alright, thank you
Apr 22, 2022 5:24 PM
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Deku251 said:
I will try to make it quick, the anime made a very bad approach, like ignoring 90% of the original personality the characters had in the manga. For example, in later chapters it becomes very clear that Edward would never kidnap someone so lightly, not because he is too kind to do so, rather because there is too much that can go wrong and will damage him in the aftermath. But wait, there is more! You thought the last 3 episodes were the only thing the anime changed and made so much worse? Well, in the episode were Emiliko and the other 2 are searching for the culprit behind the soot-sickness accident in the middle of the night, they skipped Rope-sama, a character that should have been very important for the next arc, but you guessed it, this arc isn't gonna happen in the anime because the last 3 episodes skipped way too much to return to the manga route again.
If I had to guess, they are trying to go that Promised Neverland S2 route again with Shadows House. I mean, the manga is still running after all. I really don't want to be that guy, but read the manga. First, catch up on the missing character in chapter 18-20 and then read from chapter 47 onward. I would advise you to do so, the manga is always in full color and the art is amazing. But if you don't want to, than this is fine too. Important is that you enjoy the experience.

Thank you so much for telling this
Jun 3, 2022 12:41 PM
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The changes where intentional as they didn’t know if they would get a 2nd season , the 2nd is supposedly going to go back on track

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