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NO MANGA SPOILERS PLEASE!!

ymir gets the power from "root of titans" , she becomes fritz's slave, like before and helps him with stuff so when she "dies" he cuts her into pieces and feeds her to her kids.
(super f**ked up btw)

and the cycle continues and all her grand daughter and family tree gets titan powers..

BUT THERE WERE PEOPLE IN "eldian empire" BEFORE/while SHE DIED.
so won't their kids be just normal people unlike subjects of ymir.

considering war with marley and stuff its not reasonable to think all of them migrated to differnt parts of the world hence only subjects of ymir making up the eldian empire..

or did she have power to make normal people (not her bloodline) titans?

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the Eldians who are not Subjects of Ymir are the people shown with the king in season 3, they aren't subjects of Ymir so the Founding Titan cannot control them, for example the Ackermans were me of these families.
Apr 4, 2022 1:26 PM
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The real question is why did her daughters gain Titan power even though they were humans ?

Only Ymir knows
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Apr 4, 2022 1:45 PM
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eldians can't turn into Titan,subject of Ymir can,and rn most of the eldian race is jst subject of ymir
Apr 4, 2022 1:58 PM
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One thing I can think of is that, Mr. Xaviour mentions that once a disease affected the Majority of the Eldians.
So the King used the Founder Titan to change the Physiology of the Subjects of Ymir so they would survive.
Majority of the non Subjects of Ymir Eldians probably died at that time.

Leaving the Eldians as mostly Subjects of Ymir.
Apr 4, 2022 2:32 PM
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aktiwkunn said:
The real question is why did her daughters gain Titan power even though they were humans ?

Only Ymir knows

Because they ate her dude have you watched the show?
Apr 4, 2022 2:35 PM
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aktiwkunn said:
The real question is why did her daughters gain Titan power even though they were humans ?

Only Ymir knows

Huh? They're her children? What do you mean? They're not humans.
Apr 4, 2022 8:33 PM
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WalterBlack59 said:
aktiwkunn said:
The real question is why did her daughters gain Titan power even though they were humans ?

Only Ymir knows

Because they ate her dude have you watched the show?

I know.
The question I was asking was why could they gain Titan powers without turning into a Titan but in the present people need to go through being a dumb Titan to eat a Titan shifter to gain powers?
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Apr 4, 2022 9:12 PM
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aktiwkunn said:
WalterBlack59 said:

Because they ate her dude have you watched the show?

I know.
The question I was asking was why could they gain Titan powers without turning into a Titan but in the present people need to go through being a dumb Titan to eat a Titan shifter to gain powers?

don't know if it's ever really been stated that someone needs to be a pure titan first in order to gain the power of the 9, just that one of the 9 needs to be eaten. And be a subject of ymir of course.

It's also easier for a hulking man eating giant to gobble a human than to dismember one into pieces and feed it to children...plus the initial memory wipe kinda helps with that trauma.
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DarkGamerA said:
NO MANGA SPOILERS PLEASE!!

ymir gets the power from "root of titans" , she becomes fritz's slave, like before and helps him with stuff so when she "dies" he cuts her into pieces and feeds her to her kids.
(super f**ked up btw)

and the cycle continues and all her grand daughter and family tree gets titan powers..

BUT THERE WERE PEOPLE IN "eldian empire" BEFORE/while SHE DIED.
so won't their kids be just normal people unlike subjects of ymir.

considering war with marley and stuff its not reasonable to think all of them migrated to differnt parts of the world hence only subjects of ymir making up the eldian empire..

or did she have power to make normal people (not her bloodline) titans?


I came up with 2 possible explanations (just speculation, not official facts):

1. Eldians were actually another race/species from the very beginning, npt some just ethnic group.
So only someone of that race could have came in contact and creating "a bond" with the symbiote/parasite.
2. The king made ymir breed with other eldians, so in this scenario ymir's subjects are actually descendants of ymir, without royal blood. The only way their numbers increases is a fast and/or well developed breeding program.
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CuminExpensive said:
the Eldians who are not Subjects of Ymir are the people shown with the king in season 3, they aren't subjects of Ymir so the Founding Titan cannot control them, for example the Ackermans were me of these families.
so can ackermans get power of titans if injected with zeke's spinal fluid like pixis
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DarkGamerA said:
CuminExpensive said:
the Eldians who are not Subjects of Ymir are the people shown with the king in season 3, they aren't subjects of Ymir so the Founding Titan cannot control them, for example the Ackermans were me of these families.
so can ackermans get power of titans if injected with zeke's spinal fluid like pixis

Ackermans already have the power of pure titans in their human form. Ackerman clan is a products of Subjects of Ymir being experimented on. They cannot transformation into pure titans, however it is unsure whether they can receive the power of one of the 9 titans.


๐˜š๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ ๐˜ค๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฎ๐˜บ ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด, ๐˜ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ’๐˜ต ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ฆ.


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Remember, King Fritz told his people to keep the blood of Ymir going, so they most definitely breeded with their daughters and then their descendants and continued that till most of them had subjects of Ymir blood.

Remember the plague that killed most of the people in the world but not subjects of Ymir because the King decided to alter their genetics so they become immune to it. Many eldians who didn’t have Ymir’s blood, died to that plague.

Remember the nobles, from season 1-3 of Aot. Those people are most likely the original eldians who didn’t breed with any subject of Ymir and the King couldn’t control, so to shut them up about the outside world, he gave them riches and nobility.


๐˜š๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ ๐˜ค๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฎ๐˜บ ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด, ๐˜ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ’๐˜ต ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ฆ.


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MeVike said:
Remember, King Fritz told his people to keep the blood of Ymir going, so they most definitely breeded with their daughters and then their descendants and continued that till most of them had subjects of Ymir blood.

Remember the plague that killed most of the people in the world but not subjects of Ymir because the King decided to alter their genetics so they become immune to it. Many eldians who didn’t have Ymir’s blood, died to that plague.

Remember the nobles, from season 1-3 of Aot. Those people are most likely the original eldians who didn’t breed with any subject of Ymir and the King couldn’t control, so to shut them up about the outside world, he gave them riches and nobility.
thank you very much

its a shame that i couldnt understand these even though i rewatched 7 times
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MeVike said:
DarkGamerA said:
so can ackermans get power of titans if injected with zeke's spinal fluid like pixis

Ackermans already have the power of pure titans in their human form. Ackerman clan is a products of Subjects of Ymir being experimented on. They cannot transformation into pure titans, however it is unsure whether they can receive the power of one of the 9 titans.

Wait really? Then why did Kenny try to inject himself ?
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mapleter said:
MeVike said:

Ackermans already have the power of pure titans in their human form. Ackerman clan is a products of Subjects of Ymir being experimented on. They cannot transformation into pure titans, however it is unsure whether they can receive the power of one of the 9 titans.

Wait really? Then why did Kenny try to inject himself ?


The thing is, it was never outright said by anyone, even though the fans generally agree than ackermans can’t turn into titans. It was simply implied and the biggest evidence from it are:

1. Ackermans already possessing some Titan power from the experiments made by other subjects of Ymir at the request of the King in order to have a strong military “group” that can protect solely him.

2. Neither Ymir or the founding Titan can’t alter a Ackerman’s memories.

We also know that in order for them to turn into titans, Ymir has to built a body for them first (from sand), and since Ymir simply can’t control them any more than she can control Marleyans. The explanation to that is probably that Ymir already knows that ackermans have a Titan percentage In them, so ti her it would be like she already made them their bodies.

Now as for Kenny, he simply didn’t know probably. Ackermans are eldians whose genetics have been modified enough (not by Ymir, but people) to the point that they cannot be regarded as Subjects of Ymir who can Be controlled.


๐˜š๐˜ฐ๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฎ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ฏ ๐˜ ๐˜ค๐˜ญ๐˜ฐ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ ๐˜ฎ๐˜บ ๐˜ฆ๐˜บ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด, ๐˜ ๐˜ค๐˜ข๐˜ฏ’๐˜ต ๐˜ด๐˜ฆ๐˜ฆ.


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MeVike said:
mapleter said:

Wait really? Then why did Kenny try to inject himself ?


The thing is, it was never outright said by anyone, even though the fans generally agree than ackermans can’t turn into titans. It was simply implied and the biggest evidence from it are:

1. Ackermans already possessing some Titan power from the experiments made by other subjects of Ymir at the request of the King in order to have a strong military “group” that can protect solely him.

2. Neither Ymir or the founding Titan can’t alter a Ackerman’s memories.

We also know that in order for them to turn into titans, Ymir has to built a body for them first (from sand), and since Ymir simply can’t control them any more than she can control Marleyans. The explanation to that is probably that Ymir already knows that ackermans have a Titan percentage In them, so ti her it would be like she already made them their bodies.

Now as for Kenny, he simply didn’t know probably. Ackermans are eldians whose genetics have been modified enough (not by Ymir, but people) to the point that they cannot be regarded as Subjects of Ymir who can Be controlled.

Thanks for the explanation. This makes alot of sense !

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