Is Mirai Kakehashi really a bad MC?

Mar 19, 2022 12:09 PM

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I'm curious about your opinions on him, because I don't think he's a bad MC at all. I'm down for a nice discussion, so let's see.

Mar 19, 2022 12:24 PM

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I'm too lazy to write just now. But in short I don't think he is bad, I see him as a boy with very strong "principles" about life, due to the strong influence of his parents and tragic events. That leads him to be the way he is, and I don't see him as a badly written character, on the contrary I see him as a very respectable one. In the end I did write a little bit hahaha.

Mar 19, 2022 12:24 PM

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Mirai developed a lot from the beginning of the story. He gains confidence and courage but stays strong in his beliefs. He also overcomes the ideas that he had to do things because of his parents. And decided his own choices. So he’s not a bad MC IMO

Mar 19, 2022 12:28 PM

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No i don't think so, i have seen people calling him brain dead or not cool because he doesn't want to kill anyone but i think his calmness is not bad. Not every mc should be overpowered or smart enough to be mc.

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Mar 19, 2022 12:42 PM

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Im_A_Fox said:
I'm curious about your opinions on him, because I don't think he's a bad MC at all. I'm down for a nice discussion, so let's see.

I personally thought he was one of the weakest characters usually when characters go through trauma like he did they show how it effected him and how he’s life is different because of the trauma but beside him attempting suicide he was just a very blan seeming character his morals made him boring I like almost every character more then him

Mar 19, 2022 12:49 PM

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His dad taught him a pretty toxic view of happiness which in turn caused unhappiness for him and the people around him.

I’m not even a hater of the show but MC before ep 18 maybe was pretty annoying. I think it’s fine to have an arc about whether killing is wrong or not or to be indecisive, but that’s just his whole character. I think from a narrative point he isn’t terrible, but not great either. It’s just his dumb view of happiness, especially in the beginning, what what is annoying.

His character archetype relies to heavily on Dues Ex Machinas and other plot devices to keep him from being killed off.

I think for the last 2-3 eps he has been decent, but not enough to make up for the rest of the time.

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Mar 19, 2022 1:01 PM

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Im_A_Fox said:
I'm curious about your opinions on him, because I don't think he's a bad MC at all. I'm down for a nice discussion, so let's see.

Well, I get your point, but I think his morals didn't make him weaker. Like, he was raised to be a kind and caring human being by his parents, and after their death, he was basically abused and bullied by his family, classmates and even his 'love', Saki for years. And even though they did all this shit to him, he still believed in his morals and parents' teachings. That's pretty epic, I mean, it's really hard to stay the same as your environment changes. And just imagine that you wanna die, and when you're finally able to, a white creature saves you, gives you basically superpowers and now you have to kill or be killed. That's just too much, and the fact that this happened to a 15 year old, sad, depressed boy is pretty terrifying. Also, I like how at the beginning, he was really confused, afraid and sad, but at the end he was much calmer and he finally found happiness (Saki). So that being said, I think Mirai didn't only fight with his enemies, but with himself, too.

Mar 19, 2022 1:04 PM

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He isn't bad MC. Main reason is, i think, expectation that we will get second DN were high so meek Kakehashi wasn't welcomed warmly. Overall not bad anime and MC. You don't need to go full Yagami Light with every MC.

Mar 19, 2022 3:06 PM

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He was fine at the beginning. Bland, but fine. Then, as the Metropoliman Arc progressed, his stubborn “no killing” policy got more annoying, and when it killed Sokotani I was just like. Bruh.
The problematic aspect of his character is what other people say. Bro is so against killing that he lets murderers go free and kill others. He gets more people killed by letting them go free. Though yes, he’s gone through a lot and he can be pretty sympathetic. Him being written as a coward is relatable and makes him somewhat likeable, but his character is ruined by how far Ohba took his “No killing” policy and with just that. He’s kinda bland for a main character. He just doesn’t have anything remarkable about him. Even without the “no killing” policy, he’d still be pretty bland.
In the second arc, he’s better but primarily really because of circumstance, I feel. The fact that he’s not going up against a mass murderer but rather someone who’s still a sociopath but isn’t killing left and right. Those “kill or don’t kill” dilemmas pretty much vanished from the story, making his character more tolerable. But he was still bland.
So yeah. He’s not awful but he’s not a good character. Ohba should’ve given him more depth to make him less bland, and should’ve executed his “no killing” policy differently.

Mar 19, 2022 3:28 PM

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PhantomPoupe said:
He was fine at the beginning. Bland, but fine. Then, as the Metropoliman Arc progressed, his stubborn “no killing” policy got more annoying, and when it killed Sokotani I was just like. Bruh.
The problematic aspect of his character is what other people say. Bro is so against killing that he lets murderers go free and kill others. He gets more people killed by letting them go free. Though yes, he’s gone through a lot and he can be pretty sympathetic. Him being written as a coward is relatable and makes him somewhat likeable, but his character is ruined by how far Ohba took his “No killing” policy and with just that. He’s kinda bland for a main character. He just doesn’t have anything remarkable about him. Even without the “no killing” policy, he’d still be pretty bland.
In the second arc, he’s better but primarily really because of circumstance, I feel. The fact that he’s not going up against a mass murderer but rather someone who’s still a sociopath but isn’t killing left and right. Those “kill or don’t kill” dilemmas pretty much vanished from the story, making his character more tolerable. But he was still bland.
So yeah. He’s not awful but he’s not a good character. Ohba should’ve given him more depth to make him less bland, and should’ve executed his “no killing” policy differently.

Good point. I agree, Ohba should have given more depth to his character, that would have really helped in Mirai's case. I think we got a little too much useless information, action in the beginning of the series, around episode 3-7 (in anime), also, the pacing was all over the place. If we would have gotten more Mirai - Saki moments, I think we would've become more sympathetic towards Mirai. Also, I didn't really get annoyed by Mirai's "no killing" speeches and morals, because I felt bad for him, like, Ohba, just please let the guy rest a little 😂
Actually, with his morals, Mirai was more of an angel than the angels themself. Imo, how cool it would have been, if there was a twist and Mirai would have become an angel, like the Angel of Life or something? I would actually be very surprised.

Mar 19, 2022 5:17 PM

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Im_A_Fox said:

truth999 said:

I agree with this. It's not as easy as most people think it is. I admire the fact that he got out of some pretty dicey situations without having to kill anyone.

Mar 19, 2022 7:18 PM

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lazily written and has the personality of a damp towel. hard to say anything good about him.

Mar 19, 2022 7:18 PM

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Being unlikeable doesn’t mean he’s badly written. He’s actually a well written mc. You don’t see any fluctuations on his character. You don’t see any uncharacteristic thing about him. He’s a kid who grew up with a very unique sense of justice and kindness to say the least. As time passes and do to circumstances he learns the hard way that his way of thinking is very flawed so evolves for the better.

He stays true to his character and just evolves over time. That’s good writing.

However that doesn’t make him interesting and his nature is the reason why many people don’t like him. It’s all just opinions and everyone is allowed to have one.

I personally don’t mind him, especially after he comes to accept that some things need happen for the greater good.

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Mar 19, 2022 10:58 PM

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He was weak, whiny, and annoying. He took his Dad’s words as the be all and end all, even though his Dad was saying them to a small child. Small children get taught dumbed down black and white (no grey area) morals/advice that aren’t realistic for a teenager or an adult. Never ever lie, if you’re nice to people they will always be nice to you back, work hard and you will succeed, you should never hate someone, etc. We grow out of these. Mirai does not.

Mar 19, 2022 11:39 PM

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Im_A_Fox said:
I'm curious about your opinions on him, because I don't think he's a bad MC at all. I'm down for a nice discussion, so let's see.

He is a terrible mc and he need to die ,that is when this story will be a masterpiece

Mar 19, 2022 11:57 PM

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no way people are saying he is a good mc

Mar 20, 2022 3:59 AM

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He was weak, whiny, and annoying. He took his Dad’s words as the be all and end all, even though his Dad was saying them to a small child. Small children get taught dumbed down black and white (no grey area) morals/advice that aren’t realistic for a teenager or an adult. Never ever lie, if you’re nice to people they will always be nice to you back, work hard and you will succeed, you should never hate someone, etc. We grow out of these. Mirai does not.

I see your point. I think how his Dad raised him was partly right, but he shouldn't have taught Mirai to be kind in every situation. Of course, that is a really great way of thinking, but in this cruel world, that just gives you a miserable life. Also, I think the abuse he experienced for years have also made a huge impact on him, too. Like, okay, he was weak and whiny, but how should he grow up normally, if his parents were killed in front of his own eyes, and no one taught him anything, except for violence etc. At this point, I'm just happy he didn't become a seriel killer or something.

Mar 20, 2022 4:04 AM

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Im_A_Fox said:
I'm curious about your opinions on him, because I don't think he's a bad MC at all. I'm down for a nice discussion, so let's see.

He is a terrible mc and he need to die ,that is when this story will be a masterpiece

Well, I don't think he 'needs' to die, but the ending was really nice in my opinion. It showed how your prescence can affect the ones who are close to you, even if you don't think so. Also, it gave a great answer to professor Yoneda, so I liked it. Which part of Mirai did you find unpleasent or bad?

Mar 20, 2022 4:16 AM

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He is not bad, simply has own precious things he care about.

Mar 20, 2022 7:22 AM

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I don't think he's badly written, I just hate everything about him 🤷‍♀️
(I took a break after episode 14 because I couldn't endure his dumbass views anymore, so if he actually developed a bit since, good for him).

The thing is - it's not unrealistic for a teenager to still be stuck at the mental capacity of a 5 year old who just unquestioningly follows the black and white morality taught by their parents (I'd say it's rare because being a teen is all about setting yourself apart from your parents and figuring out who you are yourself, but rare doesn't mean it doesn't exist). People like that DO exist. But that doesn't mean that kind of person is interesting or pleasant to follow, and in a story that is so loaded with morally grey questions, an MC who refuses to see the world in anything but black and white just feels out of place and like he is intentionally used to slow down the plot.

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Mar 20, 2022 9:11 AM

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The first half was pretty annoying but he did developed well so he's not the worst atleast

Mar 20, 2022 10:53 AM

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It really depends your enjoyment of the series honestly. I honestly thought the first ep was pretty good, but then the next few eps were just...Bleh. Tat's more down to how boring and awkward the MCs were. While I disagree with the notion that 'not killing = bad MC' vibe, as I see that with so many damn shows, and people act like they'd go guns blazing, when they don't think of the so many other factors that would come into question for you. But I did find him to be pretty bland for most part. Idk, I feel he lacks...Energy? It's as if he is a robot at times. So it's middle of the table for me.

Mar 21, 2022 11:09 PM

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He isn't a bad MC, it's just that the side characters like

outshine him.
There are worse MCs out there and Kakehashi is not one of them

Mar 22, 2022 3:51 AM

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He isn't a bad MC. He isn't a good & extraordinary MC either. He is just an average typical lonely MC you will find in many mid core animes . I think Mirai is a perfect character for an anime like this but the overall story of this anime itself is trash. And I think its not fair to dislike him just because he is not the next Light Yagami.

Just quit anime.

Mar 24, 2022 6:37 PM

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He is not awful, but he could have been better in my opinion though.

Mar 24, 2022 7:02 PM

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No-Kill protags are already pretty hit-or-miss (mostly miss) to write anyway, and this is probably one of the worst examples of this where the writing refuses to acknowledge when he fucks shit up with his nonsense (remember when he got that one dude killed) and has to come up with ways to bypass his stupidity (Red Arrow making him let Metropoliman get killed) not to mention having to asspull shit to crowbar the story in a way that compensates for his overall incompetance (The Kid shooting Metropoliman so he can't just peace out like any smart person would).

He's also just pretty whiny and sanctimonious, kinda feels like a Mecha protagonist who never grew past the first 5 episodes

TL,DR: Yeah, pretty shit and singlehandedly dragged down and ruined what could have been a pretty fun and interesting show

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Mar 25, 2022 5:41 AM

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Im_A_Fox said:
I'm curious about your opinions on him, because I don't think he's a bad MC at all. I'm down for a nice discussion, so let's see.

Murai starts from a person wanting to die ,to accepting that he still has a chance to live in this world,and he does have saki to comfort him and give him reason ,that is a very unique motivation for a shounen story

Also his morals are really story,and he does gets challenged ,but the way he answers back is really logical and not direct

Mar 25, 2022 7:40 PM

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TBH, Mirai isn’t a bad MC, but he is one which is easily hated. He never changed to fit in to the story, always doing nothing particularly helpful, so many died because he just couldn’t kill a single person, he kept acting like a saint, even though he had inadvertently killed his aunt. Most of what he did wasn’t really bad, it just wasn’t what most of us didn’t want. He grew courage and determination, and found his happiness, and found a better reason to stay alive. He is a good example of a well written MC, but I really hate him.

Mar 26, 2022 3:15 AM

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Well ... he is a pretty generic/boring main character. So in terms of quality I'd say "bad". (But I often tend to dislike main characters.)

They guy with cancer and the Poliman guy were the most interesting chars lol. :D

Mar 27, 2022 9:33 AM

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He is not bad, he has own ideals, strong sense of justice, can understand what is important for him.

Mar 27, 2022 1:28 PM

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He's not a bad MC. I think it's only natural that he has such a naive character because he is a victim of a broken home and doesn't have a life like normal people. I'm just disappointed with the character development, I think it was too rushed. Suddenly he became a person who has a high opinion, even though nothing happened that was good enough to change him.

Mar 29, 2022 2:08 PM

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He's not a bad MC. Just not the type of MC I like.

These nullified what I could have liked about him:
Must not hate.
Suicide is bad.
If god, I would change nothing.

What I liked, but was ultimately nullified:
He helped Mukaido kill Uryuu
He chose Saki over the people
And that's about it really.

Mar 29, 2022 7:14 PM

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Im_A_Fox said:
I'm curious about your opinions on him, because I don't think he's a bad MC at all. I'm down for a nice discussion, so let's see.

its not argument anymore, he don't know common sense about self defence.

kill someone that want to kill your family or friends.

he become god ? hell no

imagine if he become god, and never punish killer or criminal as a law or imagine a world without police that he can make is problely him can do that.

the worst in the world.

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