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Oct 3, 2014 5:59 AM

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first off your missing the point....he straight out said he is just using the 11s for his own benfit ...so of course he wasn't fighting for them.....if it came to it he would sacrifice the 11s to save nunnally if it called for it......lelouch was using the knights and the 11s....but you fail to see that...you may think hes fighting for the 11s but really hes just using them.

but look at tomaki he almost had them killed and against zeros wishes

but look at the very first thing we see...he wanted euphy to shoot him so the 11s would side with zero........hell even before the stadium he said he used to like her and the reason he said this was because it went against his plans and no lelouch really was using the 11s.

not civilians no....I mean look at lelouches friends .......do they look like evil britannians have they done anything wrong im talking about civilians who was killed by the 11s out of rage of what happened at the stadium ...and went out and tried to kill Britannia's enemy or not.

light had no other choice they was trying to find out if light was kira and capture him......are you suggesting that light should just roll over and say im kira.

and about rolo......rolo killed shirly out of jealously and intended to kill anyone who would take away his false happiness and was also willingly to kill nunnally when he had the chance ........if lelouch didn't keep rolo around then shirly wouldn't had to die it is his fault because he kept him around




-_- really .....are you ill or something......light use people as pawns ........ok he did that to a few people but lelouch used millions of millions of people and lelouch did kill not only his sister but his brother too who he had a good relationship with.......not a strong bond but they wasn't on hated terms..............but people who phrased him as a hero, people who fought for him, civilians bystaders allies friends family ......and those wasn't his
enemies........lelouch is willingly ready to use anyone for .......

3 REASONS

1 FOR NUNNALLLY
2 KILL DADDY
3 FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO MOMMY...

these are his main motivations and again doesn't care who he has to kill to atchive his gaols ...........and again he didn't care about the 11s ...only about these 3 things only
light used few people to make the world a better place while lelouch used loads of loads of loads of people and disposed of them when he was finished with them disregarding them as nothing.........

its only after he beats his father and finds out about his mother and thinking he lost nunnally and had a angry suzaku ready to kill him, he decided to make the world hate him for all the horrible things he has done....cause he had nothing left in the world except regret.

so he decided his new plan would be to spill so much blood that everyone would forget what euphy did.........which is very fucking stupid .....I mean come on of course people are going to remember what euphy did people are going to know that lelouch is part of the royal family same as euphy.......I call LAZY LAZY WRITING HERE.

he plan to make the world hate him and deplete there hatred is only a temporary thing ..........you cant ried the world of war and hate .......just because of he killed him self by suzakus hands ...........people will find reasons to go to war and kill each other, lelouchs gaols and reasons are all pointless ....he is too obsessed and should of taken a chill pill and told the world the truth

ok first off about ray pember and the agents....light got it in to his head that they was on his trail and decided to hit two birds with one stone ........he told the police not to get in his way,,,,he warned them first hand......but they went and snooped on him and was trying to find out who kira was........he killed them because they was trying to figure out who kira was and the other thing is that it would make the police to scared to find kira

that's yours two birds with one stone

light doesn't just kll anyone....he kills criminals or people who is trying to stop him or kill anyone who would link him to being kira............not just anyone....

lelouch killed his sister and brother and killed millions of innocent used people gave false hope stired the hatred in peoples hearts lied why he started the rebellion and his reasons wasn't to save area 11 or the 11s.


are you fucking serious............he said to her face to shoot him ....he even said to her that it would make people side with him if she did.......I THINK THE ONE WHO SHOULD REWATCH THE SERIES IS YOU CAUSE YOU OBVIUSLY HAVENT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION

it was after they had a little chat he dicided to side with her before the gaess kicked in...................>_>.............AGAIN GO REWATCH THAT EP WHERE LELOUCH AND EUPHY WAS TALKING.................



that he will hold her captive for negation
geekfreak17aOct 3, 2014 6:21 AM
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Oct 26, 2014 12:04 PM

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Code Geass was more childish than Death Note, and had many more plot-holes. Light was a symbolic metaphor for mankind's nature who many people don't like because they don't understand. Meanwhile Lelouch was just a perfect hero that was created to appease the viewers. Furthermore, a lot of people including me hate mecha. With that said, I actually love both anime (Death Note's my favorite anime all time).

Oct 26, 2014 3:28 PM

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Blue-Keyz said:
Because Code Geass is shit unlike Death note.


so true!!!
Oct 26, 2014 3:29 PM

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mfw just because both shows are on toonami, you have to like both of them
Nov 17, 2014 12:27 AM

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I liked both of the shows but found Code Geass to be much, much better. There are lots of awesome characters in Code Geass while in the Death Note I didn't really like any. I kinda did root for Light but it's not like I really liked him. On the other hand Lelouch is a really cool character and so are C.C. and Kallen.
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When introducing someone to Code Geass, I say it's a bit like Death Note, but with giant fighting robots.

I think the reason some dislike CG compared to DN is CG's diversity can be jarring at times. Mastermind wit-battles followed by mechas followed by school rom-com. The Pizza Hut advertising also adds to the idea that the series doesn't take itself seriously.

There are obvious parallels between the two main characters, and for those who see DN first, Lelouch seems to be less motivated, constantly outwitted, and isn't nearly as competent with his powers. I always felt it was odd that Lelouch didn't command everyone he met to obey him, for example.

Some might like the occasional comic relief in CG, but DN is a more concentrated, consistently dark series. There are less characters in DN, but each of them leaves a lasting impression. Some can lose track of the CG characters, and even the mechas (where every other mecha is an upgrade which impresses everyone). In terms of the women they're more independent in CG (especially Kallen), though in both the main women are all inexplicably attracted to the main characters (Misa, C2, Takeda and Kallen come to mind).

Of course, this is my personal speculation - I actually like both, though I prefer DN.
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Supernatural Horror + Crime Thriller is better than toned down politics.

Celestrial2 said:
Blue-Keyz said:
Because Code Geass is shit unlike Death note.


so true!!!

Speak on it gawd

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Nov 25, 2014 3:59 PM

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Both were great
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Ok, I'm going to say from the start that I liked both shows. Both were in depth analyses of human beings with abnormal intelligence and powers. However, it must be said that Light is the lesser of the two characters. I know a lot of people will argue with me. To you guys, I say come. Why is it so? Here's why. Light tries to rule the world and tries to prolong his life to do so. Lelouch abdicates power by dying (whether you believe it or not. I personally don't think he's dead. I think Bandai and Sunrise just ran out of money to make any more seasons)

If you really think that one man has the right to rule over others is fine, go live in North Korea. Here's the thing, whilst Lelouch kills more people than Light to defeat a few villains, those villains were far more powerful. They weren't criminals. They were dictators with WMDs. Still with that said, I know a lot of you will argue oh he shouldn't have killed that many. I say, how naive are you? It's war. People die. Ok we don't have to fight each other. Then we'd be ruled by Nazis. The only difference between CG and WWII is that Lelouch abdicated power and left it to capable people who were battle tested and wanted to create a better world. Light wanted to rule. Lelouch was far less selfish and he understood that he was a hypocrite. Light was blinded by power. If you still want to argue, I'd happily battle, but there is one requirement. Go read some books on world history before you do.
Dec 18, 2014 3:42 PM

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I liked both shows but Death Note is way more amazing. It was just more realistic with more believable characters. The art of Code Geass is strange and most of the characters are annoying too. Death Note's soundtrack is one of the best things I've ever heard and it's one the best animes I've ever seen. Death Note made me think what was right and wrong while Code Geass didn't. Death Note had more quality in the story and characters and caught my attention more.
Dec 18, 2014 3:50 PM
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Mecha, plus CLAMP body.
Dec 22, 2014 1:20 PM

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They're quite different. Death Note's strong point is that it's smart; the plot is fairly well structured and all events work well in the big picture. Everything seems to have had a lot of thought put into it It features fewer plot elements (fewer notable characters, only one "special power", no mechas) but it makes very good use of what it does have.

Code Geass just pursues various kinds of entertainment (often successfully) in an almost episodic manner. All big plot changes come out of the blue, and no real, consistent "big picture" is evident. It features a lot of plot elements that it ends up not giving enough spotlight, and even adds new ones randomly whenever "necessary" (Gefjun disturber for example). In this way, by not making the "rules" of the series clear from the beginning, it ends up with a bad story structure. Simply put, it's just not that intelligent.

Both have a similarly high pace, but in Code Geass, it ends up crushing the possibility for all kinds of interesting interactions or potential events. This is partly remedied by Lost Colors, but having more stuff animated would be better. On the other hand, for Death Note, the high pace comes very naturally, since with few plot elements there's little fear of moving too fast to cover everything that's important.
May 28, 2015 10:59 AM

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endless-time said:
Death Note is way more amazing. It was just more realistic with more believable characters. The art of Code Geass is strange and most of the characters are annoying too. Death Note had more quality in the story and characters and caught my attention more.


Well said!
I didn't like CG at all. It did not take itself seriously even though it was trying to impress the audience with Lelouch's intelligence. Action sequences has too many flaws and execution was too easy: no suspense.

My conclusion:
CG is for Shounen (accept everything and ignore flaws)
DN is for Seinen (supremely written plot with believable characters)
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May 30, 2015 11:18 PM

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F3lito said:
I think if you like Death Note you will like Code Geass too and reverse.


Probably half wrong, me and many others did not like it.
May 30, 2015 11:19 PM

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CG - the damn necks are too long, a bit edgy art




But you'll still take damage!
May 31, 2015 1:33 PM

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F3lito said:
GrimorumInvoke said:


Probably half wrong, me and many others did not like it.


Oh really? And why? Cause I watchec both and for me both were awesome.

Well I mean they are similar but at the same time there are also differences, mainly characters and how the story develops.

CG is more action packed while DN is more psychological. Comes down to your own preference I guess, I don't see why one should dislike CG just because they like DN.
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So why you who like death note still dislike code geass?
Is it because you dislike main character?, art?, mechas? or what :o?

1 - Originality : Death note started in 2003, Code geass in 2006. Most people also discovered DN before CG, a lot of story structure and characters felt "new" the first time, then felt déjà-vu and like a redo in CG.

2 - Incoherences & plot flaws : Code geass is one of the show with the most inconsistencies. Really. To a point it's obvious the creators didn't take their story seriously. Death Note have also incoherences, but it's not on the same level, often Code geass feel just like the studio is trolling. Ridiculous twist from episode 22 season 1, or the 1 millions Zero of season 2 are good examples.
One of the most stupid thing is that near the end he just orders people to "obey him", being free to order anything afterward. It was obvious from the start he could do that, but he didn't, just because a 5-episode anime wouldn't do it.
I'm not even speaking of the battles, 90% of them are always the same pattern, either lelouch using the field, or some deus ex machina Mecha destroying everything. At some points each battle had his new overpowered mecha/weapon destroying all possible strategy.

3 - Other : many other little things, like the groundless use of mecha just because sunrise is used to mecha, the pizza sponsor making CC act out of character just for the sake of sponsoring, the chaotic story building (like the china arc, wtf ?).
And also the fact they're always using chess as metaphor but they make impossible moves like a king moving next to another king, the inconsistency of characters like Lelouch (for example the way he acts towards women just does a backflip from an episode to another because the writer feels like it), the odd Clamp character design just to get the Clamp fanbase, etc etc etc.


Lot of reaons for someone to like DN and not CG.
Of course DN is not perfect, but CG is not just in the same world, you can take DN seriously, you can't take CG seriously without wearing huge blinders.
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Ziassan said:
Chill_ said:

So why you who like death note still dislike code geass?
Is it because you dislike main character?, art?, mechas? or what :o?

1 - Originality : Death note started in 2003, Code geass in 2006. Most people also discovered DN before CG, a lot of story structure and characters felt "new" the first time, then felt déjà-vu and like a redo in CG.

2 - Incoherences & plot flaws : Code geass is one of the show with the most inconsistencies. Really. To a point it's obvious the creators didn't take their story seriously. Death Note have also incoherences, but it's not on the same level, often Code geass feel just like the studio is trolling. Ridiculous twist from episode 22 season 1, or the 1 millions Zero of season 2 are good examples.
One of the most stupid thing is that near the end he just orders people to "obey him", being free to order anything afterward. It was obvious from the start he could do that, but he didn't, just because a 5-episode anime wouldn't do it.
I'm not even speaking of the battles, 90% of them are always the same pattern, either lelouch using the field, or some deus ex machina Mecha destroying everything. At some points each battle had his new overpowered mecha/weapon destroying all possible strategy.

3 - Other : many other little things, like the groundless use of mecha just because sunrise is used to mecha, the pizza sponsor making CC act out of character just for the sake of sponsoring, the chaotic story building (like the china arc, wtf ?).
And also the fact they're always using chess as metaphor but they make impossible moves like a king moving next to another king, the inconsistency of characters like Lelouch (for example the way he acts towards women just does a backflip from an episode to another because the writer feels like it), the odd Clamp character design just to get the Clamp fanbase, etc etc etc.


Lot of reaons for someone to like DN and not CG.
Of course DN is not perfect, but CG is not just in the same world, you can take DN seriously, you can't take CG seriously without wearing huge blinders.


Not forgetting the Lord of the rings eagle gods moment..... yeah just walk all the way and while your walking all the way .. millions are dying........ It's the same with Lelouch..... He he became the king just by geassing everyone near the end and took over Britannia like it was nothing.... talk about poor.
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Code Geass was an entertaining and pretty well written show, definitely as well written as Death Note (which, had some pretty dumb writing that people tend to ignore lol.)

Like.
1 Ryuk lying
2 Light entrusting Mikami (Really Raito?)
3 Light even revealing Kira existed at all by killing Lind L. Tailor on live TV?????????
??????????????
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
???????????????????????

Why did he do this if he was smart????????????????? <- Big problem DN fans like to ignore.

Truthfully, and to be fair, it's because if he didn't the series wouldn't be interesting because nothing would happen. Not fun to watch. So he had to for the series to go anywhere.

I call lazy writing there.

But anyway, saying all this, I like Death Note and Code Geass a lot.
They're both extremely entertaining and not garbage. That's all that really matters.

Anime is just entertainment, you know.


Before I go, I can't help but say hi to a certain someone.
It's been a while.

Animefreak17a said:
first off your missing the point....


lol. Looks like that's what you're doing, once again. You're such a... 'unique' uh.. 'person'. lol..
You sure see things from a different perspective than most people.. I'll give you that.. haha.

Animefreak17a said:
light doesn't just kll anyone....he kills criminals or people who is trying to stop him or kill anyone who would link him to being kira............not just anyone....

He killed Lind L. Tailor for no reason.
Kira would have won if he had NOT killed Lind L. Tailor.
There was no reason to kill Lind L. Tailor.
Killing Lind L. Tailor proved Kira existed, gave L a lot of help, and eventually led to Kira's downfall.
Yes, Kira did kill more than just criminals or people who would link him to being Kira.

Once again.. as usual, you're wrong. lol.

Animefreak17a said:
I THINK THE ONE WHO SHOULD REWATCH THE SERIES IS YOU CAUSE YOU OBVIUSLY HAVENT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION


You got a lot of things wrong, like..
Euphy.
Rolo.
Lelouch's reasons.

But hey, at least you were worth a laugh.

I've argued with you before, and I know you're a very unreasonable person who doesn't follow uh.. logic.. so uh, I'd rather not get into THAT again, but uh, yeah, have a good one.


Oh, and to anyone else, Death Note and Code Geass are excellent. Give both a chance.
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Code Geass was an entertaining and pretty well written show, definitely as well written as Death Note (which, had some pretty dumb writing that people tend to ignore lol.)

Like.
1 Ryuk lying
2 Light entrusting Mikami (Really Raito?)
3 Light even revealing Kira existed at all by killing Lind L. Tailor on live TV?????????
??????????????
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
???????????????????????

Why did he do this if he was smart????????????????? <- Big problem DN fans like to ignore.

Truthfully, and to be fair, it's because if he didn't the series wouldn't be interesting because nothing would happen. Not fun to watch. So he had to for the series to go anywhere.

I call lazy writing there.

But anyway, saying all this, I like Death Note and Code Geass a lot.
They're both extremely entertaining and not garbage. That's all that really matters.

Anime is just entertainment, you know.


Before I go, I can't help but say hi to a certain someone.
It's been a while.

Animefreak17a said:
first off your missing the point....


lol. Looks like that's what you're doing, once again. You're such a... 'unique' uh.. 'person'. lol..
You sure see things from a different perspective than most people.. I'll give you that.. haha.

Animefreak17a said:
light doesn't just kll anyone....he kills criminals or people who is trying to stop him or kill anyone who would link him to being kira............not just anyone....

He killed Lind L. Tailor for no reason.
Kira would have won if he had NOT killed Lind L. Tailor.
There was no reason to kill Lind L. Tailor.
Killing Lind L. Tailor proved Kira existed, gave L a lot of help, and eventually led to Kira's downfall.
Yes, Kira did kill more than just criminals or people who would link him to being Kira.

Once again.. as usual, you're wrong. lol.

Animefreak17a said:
I THINK THE ONE WHO SHOULD REWATCH THE SERIES IS YOU CAUSE YOU OBVIUSLY HAVENT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION


You got a lot of things wrong, like..
Euphy.
Rolo.
Lelouch's reasons.

But hey, at least you were worth a laugh.

I've argued with you before, and I know you're a very unreasonable person who doesn't follow uh.. logic.. so uh, I'd rather not get into THAT again, but uh, yeah, have a good one.


Oh, and to anyone else, Death Note and Code Geass are excellent. Give both a chance.


You know your probably the most ignorant fan boy I have ever seen on here......

Oh yeah point out death notes supposed ploy holes...... that wasnt a plot hole that was a mistake

Code geass has alot of plot holes....

Like his zero plan he clams by making himself the most hated person in the world will make everyone forget euphy and all the hatred in the world will disappear......... how fucking stupid do you have to be to believe this shit....... of course people will remember euphy..... the whole world will remember her...... And the hatred everyone feels for Britannia will still be there .......

Everyone hated Charles
And when everyone believed euphy wanted to help them and she attacked them they would never believe in a royal again.
And then when Lelouch attacked everyone ....at this point everyone would hate the royals and would want them dead including nunnaly........

He didn't get ried of hatred he intensified it.....

Of course people will remember euphy.....If you don't see the reasons why then your just a ignorant fanboy.

And about light

He killed L because L was after him and he did away with him so light would never get caught.

It was an accident that light killed lind L tailor . He didn't know how Smart L was so it's fine ...... ....you just a fanboy who points out ridiculous reasons to put down light.

He killed people who would he him caught and who was trying to get him...And criminals so your the one wrong here not me.

No I'm right about everything your just too fanboy to get it though your thick head.

Your the unreasonable one here not me..... I mean come on you give stupid reasons to point out stupid plot holes that aren't plot holes.

Lelouch is a mommies boy that deserved to die
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Feb 22, 2016 8:27 AM

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Code Geass > Death Note.
I use to adore Death Note until I found major flaws like Light being a heartless killer at the end, killing off a certain character too early, I despise the second half, Near and Mello are terrible characters and the ending was bad.
Monster and Psycho Pass are better thriller anime than Death Note.
Also the manga is way better.
R1 10/10
R2 9/10
DN 4.5/10
Feb 22, 2016 1:41 PM

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For those obsessed with things looking "mature", Death Note is the clear winner.

Thankfully, most people over 20 outgrow that phase.
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Code Geass > Death Note.
I use to adore Death Note until I found major flaws like Light being a heartless killer at the end, killing off a certain character too early, I despise the second half, Near and Mello are terrible characters and the ending was bad.
Monster and Psycho Pass are better thriller anime than Death Note.
Also the manga is way better.
R1 10/10
R2 9/10
DN 4.5/10

Code Geass is a complete mess and we both know it. Death Note is far more logical than CG and sticks to its established rules from the very beginning until the very end. In Code Geass you get a newer, more powerful, better-looking mecha every fucking episode and that's the only way thrill is created throughout the entire series. Death Note didn't need that, fortunately.

And the plot holes... I don't even know where to begin. The whole Marianne backstory felt like a cop-out, as if Code Geass was supposed to be one season only and then suddenly they got popular and wanted a continuation. Lelouch finally reunited with her, but she decided to act like a 15 year old brat instead.

The worldbuilding is not thought-out very well either. The high eunuchs were laughable. Etc, etc.

How is Light being a heartless killer a major flaw? He's a piece of shit, yes, but those were the consequences of toying with the Death Note. Even though I do like Lelouch better than Light, since he really is a good human being, Light is better written and you can witness him developing his sociopathic nature as the series progresses.

I've noticed many people dislike Death Note simply because they killed L, which I believe it's the same with you too. Don't kill me, but Near > L.

Oh, and Code Geass' OPs/EDs are crap.
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I used to like CG, but now I don't. Nowadays, It just feels like some Saturday morning cartoon with anime drawings. Far from what people say that this anime is (masterpiece-_-)

The fanservice amount is just crazy. I thought war, mecha, Lelouch's intelligence being overly exaggerated and flying lands were already enough. But they also thought of making pointless shoved-up fanservice. I mean, this is supposed to be a war/mecha anime, not an anime about girls showering and school girl bewb shots.

The characters are NOT believable and when they are, they became annoying and generic. Honestly, the only one I liked was C.C. she was wise, and while her setting and concept is far from believable, she turned from a cold and selfish girl into a more caring one(kind of like Homura akemi from PMMM who was first cold and doesn't want to cooperate with others into a more caring person who also works with the other magical girls at the new world by the end). While everyone else is annoying, especially Shirley! Gosh, she was so annoying..

Like what someone said once, CG just makes things complicated to make it look "smart", just like solving 1+1 with algebra. But it does ridiculous plot twists like someone was about to fall from a plane that was falling on the sea, but somehow, the said person landed on a float and the person got all right without injuries . Seriously?


Like most shows I dislike, It has a CRINGEY fanbase. Here they usually go all "THIS IS BETTER THAN DEATH NOTE AND THAT LEGEND OF THE GALACTIC HEROES ANIME!!!!" Or "!!!!!!BEST ANIME OF THE CENTURY!!! UR JUST JEALOUS IF U DON'T LIKE IT!!!!! MASTERPIECEMASTERPIECEMASTERPIECEMASTERPIECEMASTERPIECE". And when you criticize about CG, you always get attacked

While Death note, Well I'm still watching It, but It's better than CG. Obviously. CG was only a rip off of better anime, same like YuYuYu, Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku,Digimon, etc..But like CG, they also fail badly!

Now Code geass fans can go and call me a "traitor"(I only changed my mind!) And bash on me, but my opinion is my opinion.
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As we grow our world view changes, saying that you do not care about other people calling you a traitor is a means to quench ones own feeling of having betrayed his past self.

Personally i think that the amount of fanservice in CG was pritty much ideal, but then i guess his conclusion requires one to admit to oneself that a moderate and well placed amount of fanservice is one of the many things that makes anime great.

Also, while this is greatly a matter of opinion, CG isn't really about the mecha and not even that much about the war but more about the characters and character interactions, in which regard as far as i can remember all of the shower scenes provided an excellent balance between fanservice and character development.

Could you provide clear examples of what you mean by characters not being believable?

Someone falling out of a plane and landing on a float? i'm not sure what are you referring to.

Being smart is usually about looks, making simple appear complicated is fairly valid tactic to achieve that end, a tactic that isn't always that easy to pull off mind you .. perhaps a better way of saying this is that complexity is relative and subjective, fixing a mobile phone would probably look complex to a customer but to a skilled and practiced technician it would usually be a fairly simple and straightforward proccess, if said technician needs to impress friends or employers she could achieve good results by presenting basic and trivial stuff that they can actually understand in a cool and complex way, on the other hand if she needs to train a new recruit she would need to break the advanced and complex stuff into simple and easy to understand instructions that the new recruit could use as reference as they learn the job.

No matter how brilliant LotGH is, watching it won't make you a capable politician and neither will Death Note make you a brilliant detective / mastermind criminal.
The purpose of anime is to entertain and to provide you with fantasy characters / fantasy world to occasionally think about / escape to in your mind.
As such what anime you like and what anime you don't like is obviously a matter of personal taste that will naturally change little by little as you grow.

Hearing someone call this or that anime (or any story in general ) a ripoff always feels silly because even if our technology has greatly advanced our basic nature hasn't really changed that much from ancient times, with a bit of effort by someone well versed in litrature all modern stories can be shown as a ripoff of ancient Greek drama.
In the case of anime in particular, all anime reshuffle and reuse a limited set of basic plot elements and themes that haven't changed that much since the first anime appeared in the beginning of the previous century and that themselves inherited existing elements from the manga and novels of the time.

Finally on a more on topic (or rather reverse of the topic) note:

Like about CG:

  • Leuluch has clear trauma induced overpowering motives:

    • His extended family murdered his mother, exiled him and his sister and then started a conflict that was likely to get them killed as well => a strong hatred and desire for revenge against his family.
    • Spending a significant portion of his life taking care of and literally carrying his blind and crippled sister on his back => a highly excessive sister complex.

  • Despite the above Leluch cares about other people close to him ( the best example is when he inwardly apologizes when not answering the phone during the sakuradite conference hostage episode) .
  • Leuluch is humanly flawed and inconsistent.
  • Even if not from the very beginning he comes to understand the evil and wrongness of his actions and comes to seek and achieve a measure of atonement for his actions by sacrificing himself in the end.

Dislike about DN:

  • Light doesn't have any really strong trauma or personal motive to seek changing the world through extreme means.
  • As far as i can remember the story made it rather clear that putting aside his claims for acting for the greater good, Light was shown to genuinely not care about anyone beside himself.
  • Light losing his dignity and cool at the very end.
  • Being somewhat of an "L" fan, more than anything else, what ruined both Lights character and DN as a whole for me was that when he finally outmaneuvered "L" his parting expression was a malicious smile rather than a sad face and a sub-vocalized "Sorry, good game, it would have been good if we could work together".


Also, while i can't say that the mystical element in CG couldn't have been handled any better, in DN it really felt like a heavy handed plot device, every time that Ryuk went outside i couldn't help but expect him to run into something along the lines of a Bleach shinigami, while this might simply be a fault in my memory, but did the DN story address the issue of "L" spending time researching history and occult to get more info on the deathnote?


... * looks at the empty courtyard with everyone else being at the Fukkatsu planed construction site *
that will be all, thank you for your attention
* bows and walks away *
Mar 21, 2022 4:07 AM
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Simply because death note is wayyyy better
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because code geass is shit and does everything worse than death note
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I guess just to protect their favorite series which has the almost same qualities/story as code geass. Butthurt, i think (not all ofc, just some peeps). Afterall, code geass has higher score in mal than death note. For me, i like it very much since I grew up watching this. Haven't watched death note yet but it's already in my ptw. IDK about the others but im sure we have different taste but to defend your fav series that is similar to code geass and give it a bad review, it's pride.
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Probably because many people say it's better than death note. When they really watch it they find it mess cause of plot holes, plot armour, fan service and bad writing
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because it is very bad
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There is a lot of things I don't like about Code Geass:
-mechas tropes: I'm already not a big fan of mechas; And when you always add a very much stronger new mecha than others, it rubs me in the wrong way; Technology evolution don't work like that, it's progressive with small steps.
-strategy: it doesn't exist, Lelouch only shouts some random codes (P3,P1, ...), and they do want he says. But where they are spatially?
- bad use of powers: Lelouch's Geass stops the person while he is speaking, he is able to only use one time per person, but those orders are forever active. But he never uses it for it's favor, he always uses for small actions. He never tried: "Obey everything Lelouch says, don't die protect Lelouch and Nunally, and join Zero's rebellion"
- CC: she simply doesn't do anything (only is a body double for Lelouch at times). Comparing with Ryuk, Ryuk was used as an exposer. He was the one that would make Light expose his plans to the readers. Also he gave the basic rules of death note, helped Light to try loopholes and he could always give him more power in the form of shinigami eyes.
- Code Geass has slice of life that almost never connect to Zero's story line.
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