Who would Actually win? (Possible Spoiler)

KiR4T said:
I don't understand how people still believe that Gojo can beat Sukuna.
I mean... Its obvious 20 finger Sukuna > Gojo.

Though, if current Sukuna can beat Gojo or not is debatable.
I think its gonna be a tie.

angelon_official said:
15 fingers sukuna would be enough for gojo but it won't be an easy fight.Sukuna with 15fingers claps gojo extreme diff and sukuna with 20 fingers destroys gojo mid diff.

SaiboT789 said:


Yes, I agree with you. I find it irritating since Gojo was pretty confident about winning against 20 Finger Sukuna, but Sukuna was wayyy to impressive for me to believe that.

angelon_official said:

Gojo has god complex no wonder he said that also he wanted to impress his student too.I said it many times gojo doesn't even have a clue about sukuna's strength.Sukuna fought thousands of gojo's ancestors in the great war so why he won't clap another one but with better hax and abilities.I can agree with you sukuna is impressive

SaiboT789 said:


Oh yea that's true, how should Gojo even know how strong Sukuna exactly is... I can't believe Gojo is underestimating the King of Curses that much..

angelon_official said:

He will realise his mistake sukuna sadly for me will keep his promise and take gojo's head.This fight is not even debatable.I'm thinking about probably the final fight between yuji and sukuna.That fight would be epic and close

SaiboT789 said:
Hey Guys, I read Jujutsu Kaisen until the newest Chapter and Since I finished the Shibuya Arc I wondered,
Can Gojo really beat Sukuna? Lots of Spoilers incoming.

I mean..

I really wanna know what you think though so, please let me know..

Mayora_oji13 said:

A slight correction it was a 140-meter radius domain.

Your first argument doesn't hold much value, the first time he lost he was exhausted and couldn't use infinity, after that fight, he mastered it completely, and the second time he lost because Geto was there.


Sukuna was more impressive in Shibuya because he didn't have to worry about his surroundings, if Gojo was as ruthless as Sukuna he could've killed everyone in the station if he wanted. The only advantage Sukuna has over Gojo, for now, is regeneration. You can bypass hi infinity by using Domain amplification, but by doing so you also won't be able to use your CT, so what's the point? Even without his infinity activated he was beating the shit out of Jogo and Hanami at the same time. Plus, his mastery over infinity is so high that he can switch between activating and deactivating it without any time lag.

Sukuna's domain is strong but it won't work against Gojo's, or it would be safe to say both of their domains won't work against each other. Sukuna brings his domain to the real world, while Gojo creates a separate space so it will be just like Megumi and Dagon's domain.

Speed-wise Sukuna is fast but Gojo can warp so again not much of an advantage, and Gojo also has speed feats that many people overlook, he destroyed 1000 transfigured humans in 5 mins, which imo is an insane speed feat, considering that he could only use hand to hand combat to do so.

So, in my opinion Gojo=Sukuna(20)>Sukuna,

angelon_official said:
Probably only gojo will lose his life.Sukuna will keep megumi alive no matter what till he used him to somehow get out of yuji's body,yuta I doubt that he would die.Nobara's death wasn't confirmed so for me she's still alive.Yuji got the potential to be the strongest in the end of his series.In the manga he's menace to society,real strong.So my theory is that sukuna will kill gojo and somehow get megumi and use him since sukuna saw something special In megumi.About Yuji he might be the only one who could challenge full powered sukuna and even defeat him after all they're both related

SaiboT789 said:

I guess both are very powerful in their respective ways, I do like both of them too, but seeing Sukuna in the Shibuya Arc made it seem like he could rival Gojo already, and would be stronger than him with all 20. Also, I'm curious about how Sukuna managed to use Fire against Jogo, was the Fire another technique of his, or does he have something like a copy ability. If it'll be revealed as a copying abilty, that would turn the tables easily, I think.

Mayora_oji13 said:

I don't think it will be something as simple as copying CT, it will be like "Hey, he is the OP antagonist, guess what. he can copy CT", it will be taking the easy way out. Even if it is something related to copying it won't be simple copying. And also Yuta can copy CT so I don't think Gege will give two of the most OP characters similar CTs.

My theory is that since Sukuna was a cannibal, he could steal CT of those he ate and store them inside a box since before using flames against Jogo he said "open ⬛". But I sincerely want my theory to be wrong otherwise, it will be awfully similar to AFO's quirk, Geto's CT, and Chrollo's nen.

I want Sukuna to have one of the most unique powers in anime. Creating a really unique CT will be hard, there will always be some inspiration involved, but I believe the guy who made some of the most interesting powers like Projection Sorcery, Higuruma's DE, Kirara's CT, etc. I think that Gege won't disappoint us.

Mayora_oji13 said:

I don't think it will be something as simple as copying CT, it will be like "Hey, he is the OP antagonist, guess what. he can copy CT", it will be taking the easy way out. Even if it is something related to copying it won't be simple copying. And also Yuta can copy CT so I don't think Gege will give two of the most OP characters similar CTs.

My theory is that since Sukuna was a cannibal, he could steal CT of those he ate and store them inside a box since before using flames against Jogo he said "open ⬛". But I sincerely want my theory to be wrong otherwise, it will be awfully similar to AFO's quirk, Geto's CT, and Chrollo's nen.

I want Sukuna to have one of the most unique powers in anime. Creating a really unique CT will be hard, there will always be some inspiration involved, but I believe the guy who made some of the most interesting powers like Projection Sorcery, Higuruma's DE, Kirara's CT, etc. I think that Gege won't disappoint us.

troilus_05s said:
20 finger Sukuna is likely to be the strongest character in the series.

SaiboT789 said:
Hey Guys, I read Jujutsu Kaisen until the newest Chapter and Since I finished the Shibuya Arc I wondered,
Can Gojo really beat Sukuna? Lots of Spoilers incoming..

I mean..

I really wanna know what you think though so, please let me know..

yobeinnif said:



Gojo Will prob lose. In the manga gojo told megumi that in the past 6 eyes users and 10 shadow shikigami users were able to kill each other (if I’m correct) and in the past a 6 eyes user must have been even in terms of strength with Gojo. The thing about this is that megumi also said in the manga that no shikigami user has ever been able to kill the 8 handled divine general mahoraga (don’t know the full correct name) but sukuna was able to clap him with 15 fingers. So if you do some quick maths: Sukuna > Gojo (prob a stupid theorie but this is how I interpret it)

AndreCraft_012 said:
I mean, Sukuna never really show his true strength so we can decide that just yet, but I'm rooting for Sukuna. Maybe even after 1 or 2 finger more he'll be unstoppable, fuck 20 finger, 15 finger is already comparable to Gojou so imagine just 16 or 17, but again we never really see his true strength so yea ¯_(ツ)_/¯

FMmatron said:
The fact that Gege sealed Gojo says everything. If it wasn't for that he would've clapped Sukuna in Shibuya.

FMmatron said:
The fact that Gege sealed Gojo says everything. Taking out an OP character on the good side is one of most popular shounen clichés. If it wasn't for that he would've clapped Sukuna in Shibuya.

SaiboT789 said:


Also I think the fact that Gojo was sealed was only because Kenjaku's plan wouldn't stand a chance with Gojo there.

FMmatron said:


Gojo is too broken in general for the story. Characters like him tend to get taken out in an underhanded fashion by the enemy or because they sacrifice themselves.

SaiboT789 said:


I know what you mean really! But I really think in this case he gets taken out for Kenjaku not for Sukuna.. I think he'll come back before Sukuna reaches 20 Fingers!

FMmatron said:


It's pretty convenient how Sukuna came out to play right after Gojo got sealed.

SaiboT789 said:


Yea I know but on the other hand if Gojo wouldn't have been sealed and fought sukuna I'm sure both would've died or get fatally injured, maybe even long-term

FMmatron said:


Arguably if it was 20 fingers Sukuna, but I don't think 15 would have been enough. From a storytelling pov it just seems unlikely that a not full strength Sukuna could best the currently strongest.

FMmatron said:


It's pretty convenient how Sukuna came out to play right after Gojo got sealed.

SaiboT789 said:


But think about it, back in his time Sukuna fought many sorcerers at the same time. So If we replace all those sorcerers back then with One six eyes user who's currently the strongest sorcerer, I really think they shall be around even with 15 fingers, if not 15 then maybe as one of the people above stated with 16-17, but I think with 20 there would already be a gap between Sukuna and Gojo..

Sanjii_1234 said:
that all was the part of the plan
Nothing convenient here
It's Just like, geto is tooo genius

FMmatron said:
It's pretty convenient how Sukuna came out to play right after Gojo got sealed.

troilus_05s said:


It isn't convenient because Gojo's sealing was the reason Sukuna came out. After Gojo was sealed, Mahito and Jogo went to complete their own motives. Jogo fed Itadori all those fingers, thus making Sukuna take control in the process. If Gojo wasn't sealed, Sukuna would not have come out . The two events are not independent. If they were independent of each other, then yes, it would have been convenient. But that is not the case here.

FMmatron said:


Gojo was feared by the jujtusu society and curses alike, I take it that his existence was something else. He was hyped way too much to lose against a not full strength Sukuna + his feats speak for itself. He was insane even handicapped against 4. Well, I hope we will get this question answered eventually.

SaiboT789 said:


Well I don't think those 4 would've stood against Sukuna either. Also Sukuna was feared during his time just as much if not even more. You see I highly doubt that all the sorcerers during Sukuna's time were all that weak. But yea, maybe Gege will surprise us completely after all! :D

FMmatron said:



> If Gojo wasn't sealed, Sukuna would not have come out

That's precisely the point which makes it narratively convenient how these two didn't have to face off back then. For sure it wouldn't have been favorable for any of the two to take a L at that point.

FMmatron said:


The point is that he did it so easily while being handicapped. This wasn't even the full extent of his ability, so if we keep that in mind it wouldn't make storytellingwise not much sense to make an unrestraint Gojo weaker than a Sukuna who wasn't at full power

SaiboT789 said:


True but we know Gojo's abilities already, on the other hands we yet don't know all of Sukuna's powers. And I do think that he's like verrry impressive.. So if we assume that there aren't any civilians and Yuji can't interfere, so both can fight with everything they have.. I would assume that they'd be at least even at the moment. But we have never seen Sukuna going all out since he reached 15 fingers, so we can't even say this for sure. Let's assume he collects 2 more fingers, I think he'd win, maybe dying himself in the process, but I think he'd win even without 20 Fingers, ecxept if Gojo also has an ability we don't know yet, but I highly doubt that-

FMmatron said:

That's precisely the point which makes it narratively convenient how these two didn't have to face off back then. For sure it wouldn't have been favorable for any of the two to take a L at that point.

FMmatron said:


We haven't seen him go all out yet either, like he either played with his opponents or fought with a crazy handicap, so that argument doesn't hold much water. I stand by that Shibuya Sukuna(15 fingers) wouldn't have been enough to beat Gojo until proven otherwise.

troilus_05s said:


Jogo's motives were explained as early as around chapter 32. So the scene perfectly played out as it should have. It isn't like the author introduced something new or changed someone's motives to prevent the fight.
Did Gege not want Sukuna and Gojo to fight in Shibuya? Probably.
Does it matter? Nah. Because the author skilfully prevented it. Because the story progressed naturally and logically, that is, according to a character's previously established motives.

If we assign this as convenience, then I can find hundreds of convenient moments in every story ever.



Anyway, do you consider this as a flaw? If yes, then I disagree with you. If you don't, then we don't particularly disagree. You just have a different definition of what narratively convenient is and that is, of course, fine.

Also, IMO you are correct about 15F Sukuna and Gojo. Gojo wins against 15F Sukuna but he will suffer some damage.

SaiboT789 said:


Sorry my mistake, I was talking about Gojo's abilities. Like I believe that we already got to know all Gojo's Abilities, but on the other hand we don't know what Sukuna still has to offer. If we talk about Power then yes, we haven't seen both of them go all out yet. After all I think.. I think if they fought now both would die or end up fatally wounded (Even though I don't think Sukuna can suffer any long-term damage). But at the end I won't be disappointed, whoever of the two wins in the end, as long as their win makes sense of course.. Let's see what Gege has planned.. I believe the final fight will follow after they dealt with Kenjaku..

FMmatron said:


I understood that, lol. I was referring to Gojo in my reply too. We haven't really seen him go all out as well, quite the opposite. Considering that I can't imagine that he would go down against 15 fingers. 20 are a different matter.

Right. What matters is an epic face off worthy of something that has been teased since the very beginning. I have expectations for both characters.

SaiboT789 said:


Oh alright then! Yea I just meant that I don't think Gojo has more than the Six eyes and his infinity.. Since those are already OP Abilities. Easily the most Powerful ones amongst the Sorcerers I'd say.

Yes exactly! I'm looking forward to an Amazing Battle! :D

Faozan_ said:
Sukuna has shown no way for now to win against Gojo, 20F Sukuna might have something but that's just speculation, IMO Gojo will probably die to Sukuna later on in the series but for now Gojo easily defeats 15F Sukuna no damage taken