My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected (light novel)
| For a while I found it odd with S2, it is successfully adapting the scenes from the LN, as in, characters are expressive, good camera angles and all, but some spice was missing. Recently I have seen two other series (have yet to finish S2, since I m finishing the LN first), Taimadou Gakuen 35 Shiken Shoutai & Masamune Revenge... I think it is safe to say they pale in comparison in plot and drama to Oregairu S2, they are of course very different, I don't think many that have seen the 3, would put them at the same level of quality at all. Yet the first two, having scenes going for them that turn into absolute highlights solely because the soundtrack used brings it to life, like crazy. Two examples: They are from the same composer, this man is pretty much an underdog doing quality and unique sounds, never heard his name before, I can assure you both of these tracks made for awesome scenes that were my personal favorites among all episodes for both series. In Masamune's case, the amazing usage of the OST brings to life an arc that was mostly cliche drama, making it so much better than the source material (the director also knew wtf he was doing). edit: Actually they are from different composers, MAL just didn't care to give proper info: https://vgmdb.net/album/55671 https://vgmdb.net/album/64647 Not the same composer but my point stands, awesome dude out here, doing much better for far lesser good anime. Just to make sure, I went through most episodes of Oregairu S2 again, and even the final ones (don't give a damm, already finished most of volume 10 anyway), and realized how soulless the OST is was being, nothing that pops out at all. A quick search on youtube gives me this: Generic enough? This composer is no novice either, he has made beautiful tracks such as: (this last one works great for drama) He can do GOOD stuff, both epic but also drama, the 3 pieces above do prove it, and they have life to themselves, unlike that track of Oregairu Zoku, then again, there could be actually decent stuff, but I m not about hearing the whole OST, because S1 and S2 had many changes to, and they never made good usage of them. Have people been addressing this? IMO Oregairu is top quality drama, especially coming from the LN, S2 does a much better job in showing the characters' emotions, episode 8 talk was great, much due to the actual quality of the scene in the LN, adapted to the anime it could have been even better, but the track on the background has no life to it, barely sets a good mood, just there for your brain to realize this is drama, you could make the argument that parts of that scene would have been more dramatic with no OST and the cast just fully displaying all their emotions with their great VA, hell you could have sounds picking up here and there in specific points, to sell the drama even more. Am I wrong here? I have been enjoying S2, it does a decent job, all the more when compared to S1, but once I realized what was missing, aside from skipping some scenes I wanted to see adapted, I just had to let this out and hear others thoughts on it, because I feel no one is properly addressing this. Sound matters, ALOT, in a drama like this, seems a waste to bring such qualities out of the adaptation and they fail so much with something as critical as soundtrack... It annoys me a lot that Masamune and Taimadou, while enjoyable experiences here and there, but with way worst plot and drama, had such good OST that elevated everything else, meanwhile this retarded director for Oregairu S2 could not bring A tier soundtrack... I don't think the composer is bad, he has talents, I think I may prefer the one from both shows I mentioned above more, but Shinsekai did not fuck around with its OST either. What do you guys think? Either way, it is the director's fault, he chooses who is the composer, but maybe it was the composer that just couldn't live up to his previous works? Or did the director fails in conveying to the composer the emotions he wanted, the kind of OST that he wanted, that would have worked the best for a drama of this level? I mean, high school drama OST doesn't need to be generic! Masamune's is a rom-com high school with some drama and had an amazing score... Again, am I wrong here and the OST and sound aspects for S2 were fucking amazing? Opinions, please. It frustrates me to no end just a critical thing is missing on these adaptations and seems S3 may suffer from it too. |
PlaycoolJan 17, 2022 4:19 AM
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| Bruh, the OST was in fact fitting into the show, and the entire genuie thing that Wataru WatariHachiman Hikigaya was looking for... And I experienced both adaptations and source material... Bruh... |
SgtBateManJan 17, 2022 3:52 AM
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Mrzyndex_ said: I understand where you're coming from but in my opinion it isn't something that affected how much I loved this series, I tend to focus on story, animation, and voice acting first other than soundtracks which don't get me wrong they are definitely something I love too, but at least for me if they do great on everything else but the soundtrack is lacking that won't affect how much I enjoy a series as much as for example bad animation or crappy voice acting will. ( Well that's at least my opinion and I understand where you're coming from) The thing with the OST is that a great one will always, if used properly by the director, enhance the material it is being used on, my point being S2 could have delivered way better if had such, and when you realize the OST is actually bleak and is just doing the minimum necessary, and go to other shows less good but with outstanding OST. Granted the OST is not terrible, if it was, it would go against the drama mood like you will be seeing drama, but then a comedy track played up, it just very uninspiring here, had the chance to bring the material to heights people would ONLY realize if it had a better OST and then compared. uhboof said: I usually see long text and skip but yea, its crazy cs I actually never realized but when I think about it you’re right. Understandable and good argument I haven’t ever seen anyone talk about but there’s nothing you can do about it, show is finished. S2 imo was the best season of them all and was one of the most enjoyable things ever, s3 from what I remember will suffer from sound aspect AND plot aspect, i hate the 3rd season, its alright its not bad but I just hate it, s1 pretty good Yeah, it is crazy I never realized either, and no one else seemed to, but once you are aware and try to look back, it is like you can't unsee it, feels like a wasted opportunity to do something better, which baffled me was comments and lots of views on the oregairu ost, calling very emotional and all, like wtf, soo bland, so monotonous... It is no excuse because you have shows with the less good overall quality, doing a lot better. uhboof said: ´just searched up oregairu soundtrack and I came back to say “Seishun Love Como no Kami sama” HIT DIFFERENT, and the other ones sound good to me too but I think its just nostalgia hitting me and I think it sounds catchy, compared to other anime this soundtrack is pretty bland but I don’t think it makes or breaks a show, COULD be better tho It is like I said, I was enjoying S2 myself, but the source material is definitely superior, a lot more details, but what S2 does right, is expressing the characters with whatever they got, so it had me wondering, outside skipped scenes, what could they have used to improve S2 to be better? Then I noticed the OST, I couldn't recall a single time I felt like I was listening to a good track, and since two of the last anime, I finished elevated themselves much further, solely from the soundtrack... To further give my point: Shigatsu has a drama with an OST that was up to what they were trying to do, you spent the whole show conscious that it has really good OST and you are aware when it is playing and like the anime more for it, it sets the mood just right. I think many people would have felt even more impact because Oregairu source has the raw potential to deliver that if we had OST that lived up to the name of this series. The big advantage that anime has over manga and LN, aside from seeing animation, is that the soundtrack can deliver a lot of immersion, sad to see such a missed opportunity. |
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SgtBaitMan said: Bruh, the OST was in fact fitting into the show, and the entire genuie thing that Wataru WatariHachiman Hikigaya was looking for... And I experienced both adaptations and source material... Bruh... Soo genius that is falls completely under the radar. The proof of a really good soundtrack is when you can listen to it alone later and just have lots of fun doing so, because it has deep to it, like a rollercoaster, it gives you the lows and then can amplify itself and deliver lots of emotion through the sound alone. Again, I checked S2 and have yet to find a track that fits it. |
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Playcool said: Soo genius that is falls completely under the radar. The proof of a really good soundtrack is when you can listen to it alone later and just have lots of fun doing so, because it has deep to it, like a rollercoaster, it gives you the lows and then can amplify itself and deliver lots of emotion through the sound alone. Again, I checked S2 and have yet to find a track that fits it. The numbers truly hit that. The drama is superfical, the pain is artificial, nothing is real, and nothing to get hung about... There was a line of the OP, as 'michi o kaeru no nara ima nanda' means do it right now, or immediately, or whatever, but they still needed another anime season of nothingness to finish it. Genius... |
SgtBateManJan 17, 2022 12:22 PM
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| I liked the soundtrack |
SgtBaitMan said: Playcool said: Soo genius that is falls completely under the radar. The proof of a really good soundtrack is when you can listen to it alone later and just have lots of fun doing so, because it has deep to it, like a rollercoaster, it gives you the lows and then can amplify itself and deliver lots of emotion through the sound alone. Again, I checked S2 and have yet to find a track that fits it. The numbers truly hit that. The drama is superfical, the pain is artificial, nothing is real, and nothing to get hung about... There was a line of the OP, as 'michi o kaeru no nara ima nanda' means do it right now, or immediately, or whatever, but they still needed another anime season of nothingness to finish it. Genius... You can still have OST conveying at for sure, you don't need a bland OST to showcase the superficiality the series goes to length to display. r3su said: I liked the soundtrack I have nothing against to someone that has liked it, but my question became, which other OST do you like? Have you heard Your Lie in April soundtrack for example? If not, I would urge you to go and listen to it, you will definitely like this, probably way more. To me music is about conveying emotion, and there is nothing better for that than having a track that oscillates marvelously between giving you calmer moments that then build up to dramatic heights. This song here is one of the biggest examples I can come with right now: The crescendo is tremendous, this shit is pure emotional fuel. |
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Playcool said: You don't need a bland OST to showcase the superficiality the series goes to length to display. Well, it's just that the series was indeed bland. The OST truly hit its mark, mission accomplished, so it's kinda strange to criticise of its purpose of existence. |
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SgtBaitMan said: Playcool said: You don't need a bland OST to showcase the superficiality the series goes to length to display. Well, it's just that the series was indeed bland. The OST truly hit its mark, mission accomplished, so it's kinda strange to criticise of its purpose of existence. Well, my opinion is really subjective since I m coming from having read the LN first, I will disagree it is bland, but if you are anime only I can kinda see your point. But there is a lot more going around than what the anime can show up, far from bland to me. You gave both Taimadou and this season the same score, so I wont bother trying to argue, because from the start we see it differently, that show to me isn't quite close to this one. |
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Playcool said: Well, my opinion is really subjective since I m coming from having read the LN first, I will disagree it is bland, but if you are anime only I can kinda see your point. But there is a lot more going around than what the anime can show up, far from bland to me. You gave both Taimadou and this season the same score, so I wont bother trying to argue, because from the start we see it differently, that show to me isn't quite close to this one. Yeah, we should agree to disagree, but it seems that you have misconceived something, since I had stated very clearly from the beginning where I came from, and numbers on MAL are just temporary. Regarding to Taimadou 35, it's the same trashy harem fan service, so of course they should receive the same treatment... Still, 35 was kinda better at what it wanted to be... |
SgtBateManJan 20, 2022 8:50 AM
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Nevermind52 said: You're probably right about most of the s2 soundtrack being very 'soulless' I didn't really notice tbh, and I loved the Op and the 3 different ED versions (yes there's 3) so much that I can't complain. Soulless and generic. Souless by itself isnt exactly bad, if they could have given an hollow feeling to it, as in making you feel like shit inside, haunting... yet far from what we got, honestly I dont want this director to be in charge of any future dramas that I would like to watch, OST is essential, and he seems to be one of those that doesnt care for it. |
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