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Does this series need the fans service?(explain why)
Jan 22, 2022 9:29 PM
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I know this series has such an amazing plot and drama. But sometimes, the fans service (ecchi stuff) really ruin my enjoyment while watching it (in both part). So what do you guys think about it?
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Jan 22, 2022 9:31 PM
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Personally, I really dont mind it. Also, fan service is like the staple of any issekai lol
Jan 22, 2022 9:37 PM
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I don't mind it lol my brother and I always argue about this he says its trash because of the fanservice while I say the opposite its in my top 10 and it doesn't bother me at all, glad they didn't remove it from the anime would've made it worse imo.
Jan 22, 2022 9:39 PM
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It's not required, it's not necessary, it doesn't add anything to the story because it never does unless it's kill la kill, but I don't mind it at all. It's a nice bonus to have actually. hehe


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Jan 22, 2022 9:49 PM
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Stop being so weird. Ur not 10, whats wrong with a little fanservice
Jan 22, 2022 9:51 PM
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Tphoenn said:
Stop being so weird. Ur not 10, whats wrong with a little fanservice
You liking it doesn't makes it for everyone


Jan 22, 2022 9:51 PM
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I don't mind it until they add pedo stuff


Jan 22, 2022 9:54 PM
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Chota_Itachii said:
Tphoenn said:
Stop being so weird. Ur not 10, whats wrong with a little fanservice
Not being weird for you doesn't makes it for everyone

Okay that came off a little wrong so let me rephrase. Ecchi ruining ones enjoyment doesnt make any sense. If its abundant and pointless sure i guess but in mushoku tensei’s case it happens once every episode or even less. If that is enough to make a mature person uncomfortable then idk what to say man. This aint porn but people dont have to be so sensitive about it. Its just a bonus fun.
Jan 22, 2022 9:58 PM
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Most people who don't like fanservice don't dislike it because they don't like sexual content, in fact it is usually the opposite. It can be very hard to entertain something very nuanced and deep while also entertaining something erotic because the erotic thing is usually far more powerful than anything else in a show. If an anime wants to include "fanservice" aka erotic, titillating sexually suggestive material in their show, especially the kind that anime finds itself adding to shows that aren't about sex, it has to do so with extreme delicacy.

The way I see it is that if you are going to try to titillate viewer he or she is going to have a harder time focusing on subtleties in the story than if there were no fanservice. Sure, he or she may not be completely distracted but it is almost guaranteed to be harder to pay attention. Obviously, the degree to which the anime excites the individual will also have an effect and that is different for everyone.

Another factor is that perhaps you really don't care that much about the subtleties of the story and you just want to be titilated. Well, of course you won't have an issue.

The only thing that gets me is people who pretend like fanservice has NO negative effects. I'm sorry. I'm a warm blooded male and anime tiddies excite me. Lol

Oh, I guess I didn't answer your question. The show goes through periods of time with a lot of fanservice and others with very little. There are times where it is unnecessary and others where I'm not bothered as much. In general I wish the show woild use it much more sparsely. Usually I find then an anime is trying to mix sex and humor together in a show that is mostly dramatic it makes the show worse. To me cheapens the story. For me the saving grace of the anime is that it has some good drama at all and the fanservice is just there for people who don't or can't appreciate everything else the show has to offer.
Jan 22, 2022 10:00 PM

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Tphoenn said:
Chota_Itachii said:
Not being weird for you doesn't makes it for everyone

Okay that came off a little wrong so let me rephrase. Ecchi ruining ones enjoyment doesnt make any sense. If its abundant and pointless sure i guess but in mushoku tensei’s case it happens once every episode or even less. If that is enough to make a mature person uncomfortable then idk what to say man. This aint porn but people dont have to be so sensitive about it. Its just a bonus fun.
Bonus feels like it if it's once per season , bonus in every episode is called FaNsErViCe , again i don't have any problem with it but there are people out there who do , doesn't matter Mature or Not


Jan 22, 2022 10:04 PM
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I personally like the ecchi humor and other humor in Mushoku Tensei, it’s actually funny and wholesome imo
Jan 22, 2022 10:06 PM

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It's from a pervert pedo pov, how do we know he got chara development if he doesn't sexually harassed people here & there making fanservice for us?
Jan 22, 2022 10:13 PM
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Just saying,its staying truthful to the source material
Jan 22, 2022 10:16 PM
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BetaMaleUltra said:
It's not required, it's not necessary, it doesn't add anything to the story because it never does unless it's kill la kill, but I don't mind it at all. It's a nice bonus to have actually. hehe


Funny thing is, KLK has so many fanservice moments that are unnecessary and cringe as fuck and as cringe as Mokushu, like mako's family constantly trying to grope Ryoko, random panty shots, and the Ragyo x Satsuki scene.............
Jan 22, 2022 10:17 PM
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People who dislike shows because of fanservice are extremely superficial imo
Jan 22, 2022 10:18 PM
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Tphoenn said:
Chota_Itachii said:
Not being weird for you doesn't makes it for everyone

Okay that came off a little wrong so let me rephrase. Ecchi ruining ones enjoyment doesnt make any sense. If its abundant and pointless sure i guess but in mushoku tensei’s case it happens once every episode or even less. If that is enough to make a mature person uncomfortable then idk what to say man. This aint porn but people dont have to be so sensitive about it. Its just a bonus fun.
dude c'mon. The drama itself is enough to make people enjoy the show. Envenmore, there are many adult shows which don't contain some ecchi stuff. I mean it's okay if a show has some adult contents, but not too many. I didn't meant to be sensitive, it is just my personal preference.
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Jan 22, 2022 10:28 PM
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It’s kinda annoying. It’s just cringy.
The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10
Jan 22, 2022 10:29 PM
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Mokuzai-kun said:
Personally, I really dont mind it. Also, fan service is like the staple of any issekai lol


Not really, Re:Zero
The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10
Jan 22, 2022 10:29 PM
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Dinxama said:
Just saying,its staying truthful to the source material
then it goes for the source as well, which is the LN. Does it need the ecchi?
Jan 22, 2022 10:42 PM
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I mean, im usually a big fan of ecchi (and nudity in R+ animes), but this one is more of an "im tolerating it" kind of ecchi. Its vibes are close to the line between fanservice and 'fanscarring'
Jan 22, 2022 10:44 PM
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Hard to answer because there isn't a series that has a plot that NEEDS ecchi in it, but it can still be nice to see, however usually not having it makes the series overall better
Jan 22, 2022 10:44 PM

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I don't really mind them, as long as they don't affect the show in a bad way.
Jan 22, 2022 10:49 PM
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Honestly doesnt really matter.
Would it be better without it? Maybe
But I don't think it affects the show that much.
Jan 22, 2022 10:58 PM
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I hated it because they were all children. It made me so uncomfortable.
Jan 22, 2022 11:02 PM
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Chota_Itachii said:
I don't mind it until they add pedo stuff
that’s what Im waiting for
Jan 22, 2022 11:03 PM

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asscheeqe said:
Chota_Itachii said:
I don't mind it until they add pedo stuff
that’s what Im waiting for
bruh bruh bruuuuuuh


Jan 22, 2022 11:05 PM

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yeah, the series honestly needs more ecchi fan service
Jan 22, 2022 11:08 PM

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Actually it's the best part of the show, quite overrated anyway this show
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Jan 22, 2022 11:13 PM
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EyeLowView said:
I know this series has such an amazing plot and drama. But sometimes, the fans service (ecchi stuff) really ruin my enjoyment while watching it (in both part). So what do you guys think about it?
it's annoying
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Jan 22, 2022 11:18 PM
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One piece, naruto, bleach, black clover, jujutsu kaisen, attack on titan, demon slayer…. All of this masterpiece anime doesn’t have ecchi scene but still great show… i like romance scene but not ecchi scene
Jan 22, 2022 11:34 PM

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Feq_Eybal02 said:
One piece, naruto, bleach, black clover, jujutsu kaisen, attack on titan, demon slayer…. All of this masterpiece anime doesn’t have ecchi scene but still great show
Either its sarcasm or you're too ignorant , Naruto is literally carried by hinata and Tsunade's boba , same goes with one piece and the latest episode of demon slayer isn't far behind to be called fanservice


Jan 22, 2022 11:47 PM
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Mushoku Tensei doesn't have any fanservice,if the author really wanted to involve fanservice in it,he would have Rudy a blank self insert mc.
Jan 22, 2022 11:47 PM
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Like every anime, fanservice is usually welcomed and is a nice addition to a degree but the fanservice here is too much IMO.
Jan 23, 2022 12:35 AM

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Why dont you explain why you dont like fanservice before telling us to explain why we like it,if we do?
Jan 23, 2022 12:42 AM

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twinktaro said:
I hated it because they were all children. It made me so uncomfortable.
Bro its just children from a childs pov (yeah rudy) and its an anime. Anime are made for the children/teenagers
Jan 23, 2022 12:50 AM
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renz330 said:
twinktaro said:
I hated it because they were all children. It made me so uncomfortable.
Bro its just children from a childs pov (yeah rudy) and its an anime. Anime are made for the children/teenagers


Anime absolutely isn't just for children and teens and mushoku tensei especially is not for children lmfao. Also, Rudy is not a child's POV because mentally he is in his 40s. There is no way to make it not creepy and uncomfortable. I'm fine with fanservice, but them being such young children is extremely uncomfortable.
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twinktaro said:
renz330 said:
Bro its just children from a childs pov (yeah rudy) and its an anime. Anime are made for the children/teenagers


Anime absolutely isn't just for children and teens and mushoku tensei especially is not for children lmfao. Also, Rudy is not a child's POV because mentally he is in his 40s. There is no way to make it not creepy and uncomfortable. I'm fine with fanservice, but them being such young children is extremely uncomfortable.
So ofc anime is for everyone, the age doesnt metter but its defenately made for teenagers since most of the characters are young. Also, about Rudy, yeah he is 30 something but mentally he is still just a child because he closed himself in his room when he was in high school. Mushoku tensei isnt a story about a 40 years old pedo which got reincarnated and is taking advangate of the young girls. When he got reincarnated did yall expect him to make no interaction with any girl under18? He needs these bonds with eris and sylphy because they will help him later. He just got a chance at another life and is trying his best in making it better than the previous one
Jan 23, 2022 1:12 AM
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I don't know really. I do not mind it and I think it fits the anime well, after all, all that ecchi stuff makes a big part of protagonists character and his bad morality. It is a part of problems he has to overcome. Rudy is supposed to be that way and I do not see other way of showing it than by what you call fanservice. I'd even go as far as to say it is necessary. Have you read the authors interview and what he feels about all this? I do not get why people are so offended by this. Sure, I expect it from a cesspool of Twitter snowflakes but I am hoping they are in the minority.

I mean is it really fanservice?

It's not over the top like in most anime that would make me cringe. No point other than to draw attention to say the last. I feel like here it actually makes sense.
Jan 23, 2022 1:13 AM
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Okay I'm going to be clear this show needs a little fan service. And let me explain why . It's important to show that the person rudy was before reincarnation remains the same person after reincarnation. He doesn't miraculously becomes the purest and the best guy in the world . Only his body is reincarnated but his personality remains the same . It shows that he is still trash . But it also shows that he despite being trash was a good person before and after reincarnation as we were shown the reason why he became a shut-in . His personality did improve but did not change. So the fan service is important to show his character.
Jan 23, 2022 1:20 AM
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EyeLowView said:
Dinxama said:
Just saying,its staying truthful to the source material
then it goes for the source as well, which is the LN. Does it need the ecchi?


The LN was written when the anime/LN industry was still a wild west and ecchi/harem was still the thing that atract people most like Index having alot of ecchi sence,it just following the trend of its time since as long as it doesnt interfere with the story the author can write what ever the fuck he wants
Jan 23, 2022 1:20 AM
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Okay I'm going to be clear this show needs a little fan service. And let me explain why . It's important to show that the person rudy was before reincarnation remains the same person after reincarnation. He doesn't miraculously becomes the purest and the best guy in the world . Only his body is reincarnated but his personality remains the same . It shows that he is still trash . But it also shows that he despite being trash was a good person before and after reincarnation as we were shown the reason why he became a shut-in . His personality did improve but did not change. So the fan service is important to show his character.


I agree. It is a big part of his character and I also agree with the point of him not immediately becoming the best and noblest of all beings. He has his problems and he is working towards fixing then albeit in some ways very slow. But still going forward.

*Spoiler*

Another point I'd like to add is the part of the episode when Rudy and Eris are having sex. I mean if anything, you would expect fanservice there and then but instead we got nothing (a good thing). Which in my mind shows that in this anime it is not fan service but something else, and again necessary. It would've taken away the emotion from that event and made it purely sexual which would pretty much ruin the whole thing.
Jan 23, 2022 1:56 AM
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Of course it needs but not as much as there is
Jan 23, 2022 1:58 AM
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Yes it needs more fanservice.
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Jan 23, 2022 2:28 AM

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I personally disliked the fan service-y jokes and the fanservice in general; really brought down an otherwise good series.




Jan 23, 2022 2:43 AM
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renz330 said:
Why dont you explain why you dont like fanservice before telling us to explain why we like it,if we do?
haven't I said it in the first place? It just feels so awkward whenever the fans service came while I was watching the show. It ruins my enjoyment, like my focus on the plot just got distracted and it really annoyed me. I don't mean to be a hypocrite here, tbh I am also a normal guy who sometimes is interested on that kind of stuff, but not when I was watching some shows which I think don't need that kind of stuff. And the fact that they use children characters, it really makes the things worse. Again it's all just my personal preference tho, I just wanna know whether you people have the same or different opinion as me.
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Yes.
Reason? : character development.
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EyeLowView said:
renz330 said:
Why dont you explain why you dont like fanservice before telling us to explain why we like it,if we do?
haven't I said it in the first place? It just feels so awkward whenever the fans service came while I was watching the show. It ruins my enjoyment, like my focus on the plot just got distracted and it really annoyed me. I don't mean to be a hypocrite
Well my opinion on fan service is that studios who want to add fanservice should just make one version of the anime which is censored/no fanservice and the other one,they make it however they want, something like the blue ray version of some animes. They really should that because people like you get offended way to easily from the slightest bullshits ever. Also when did they show fanservice during an important scenes to the plot? Tell me one scene like that
Jan 23, 2022 2:52 AM
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I think that this anime need fans service, becose it showing the intim side of characters. Basically the anime is based on fans service, but i also think that is the only reason why it isnt 10/10 for me
Jan 23, 2022 3:32 AM
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Yeah I had to drop this because the ecchi fanservice and pedo antics of the MC were both making me too uncomfortable. To the OP and anyone who feels similarly: I recommend checking out "The Beginning After The End." It's a very highly rated webnovel (also has a full color manwha/webcomic) and its premise + initial setup is nearly identical to Mushoku Tensei minus the ecchi fanservice.

Instead of a perverted, virgin, NEET, the MC of TBATE was an honorable king in his past life. The author does a great job of handling a character who has the mental maturity and experiences of an adult man but the hormones of a teenage boy. The MC views girls his own "age" as the children that they are and thus doesn't want to take advantage of them, so he chooses to keep his distance romantically. Of course, this causes some drama since he can't explain himself. He compromises by promising the potential love interest to make his heart available to her in a few years if she'll wait on him.

FULL SUMMARY:
The Beginning After The End follows the life of the late King Grey after his untimely and mysterious death. Reborn as Arthur Leywin, he seeks to correct his past mistakes in the vibrant new continent of Dicathen, a world of magic and fantastical creatures. Equipped with the knowledge of a powerful king in his mid-thirties, Arthur navigates his new life as the magic-wielding child of two retired adventurers and gains purpose through each of his experiences—something he lacked in his previous life. When a kind dragon sacrifices her life to protect him, Arthur resolves to live a sincere, kind, and courageous life with those he loves. With the help of a lost elf princess and the Elven Kingdom of Elenoir, Arthur begins his long journey to find his true place in the world.

As the years pass, Arthur becomes more and more comfortable in this world, positioning himself as a young but respected figure. However, deja-vu strikes as a war brews between Dicathen and the Vritra, a clan of banished deities now ruling over a faraway continent. Arthur must rise as a leader, despite his fear of becoming the war-hardened monster he once was in his past life. As the war rages on, Arthur discovers that he was not reborn to this world by chance… nor was he the only one.
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There isn't much in what I would call fan service in the traditional sense, rather the MC is perv.

It's all required for character development, the thing is though his inner thoughts are as messed up as anyone's could be, imagine if your inner thoughts where pasted on screen how it would look, there is plenty of things people think about that is messed up but it's okay because it stays in your head.
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