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Jul 12, 2021 3:38 AM

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*sips tea while hearing sparrows chirping*
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Jul 12, 2021 3:48 AM

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thulindar22 said:
i mean, i think technically new people could join it, but organizing it would have to be via DM? i know the thread says to talk with mem-chan about joining the tree, so i thought you were the one running it imouto-chan. that said, the cafe is join by invite only, and i don't think we do much recruiting. maybe that can be fixed at some point? might also make the cafe more lively again too?

Only admins can invite other people, so we can't do that. and even if we convinced people to join, their request still goes through Hime ^^
MemorJul 12, 2021 4:33 AM
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Jul 12, 2021 9:55 AM

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@memor i had a feeling that was the case for getting new cafe goers, it was basically me thinking maybe they'll do some recruiting at some point, or maybe it'll just be a hideout for those few that are still active here to say hi from time to time.
the thing i mentioned about you was for the family tree, not joining the cafe. but without new cafe members at some point it's also a moot point XD
Jul 12, 2021 10:04 AM

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I'm thinking probably the latter (hideout), at least for now xD I would love new members but I'm not sure that'll happen.
but yeah, technically I can still add people to the tree I didn't forget the password but there's no-one to add =w=
Jul 12, 2021 10:26 AM

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i think so too, i have seen monia-hime talk with kai-kun in the forums in the last day or so, but she's pretty busy from what i can guess so i would assume she can't spend hours on end looking for possible new members. i wouldn't have that kind of time to spend myself either so i definitely can't blame her XD
Jul 12, 2021 4:16 PM

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That's probably the case. She said she's releasing a new char design soon :3
Jul 12, 2021 5:23 PM

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Oh? That's pretty cool, hopefully I'll get to see it ^_^
Jul 12, 2021 11:55 PM

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The reason why this café is dead is complicated. I literally need to write a very huge wall of text to explain it, but I will keep it short.

To be honest. This café is mainly dead because I was so disappointed by it. Everyone wanted it to be active, but very very few people were willing to contribute, even by a little. That's not how a good & vibrant should operate in my opinion. Not to be arrogant, but I was literally the only reason it was kept alive, which you can see with how it died quickly the moment I stopped supporting it (besides other reasons). It wasn't a self-sustained community at all.

When it comes to the activity, it turned a bit dull at the end, even though it was very active in theory. Members in general weren't that cooperative in addition to that. I tried to fix some of that by locking the games threads, which we had quite a lot of. The issue is, locking these threads also requires that I spend some time to create replacements for them, which I simply wasn't willing to do due to my lack of motivation (my mistake). It was given that at least some members were going to leave, but I still did it, and I totally stand behind that decision. This café stayed successful for a long time because it managed to reinvent itself over & over. I don't mind tweaking my decisions here & there, but those who oppose change are explicitly against the culture of this place. Hard to explain the whole situation without writing much more, so I will stop here.

Also, the kind of drama I had to deal with wasn't acceptable. I totally understand that owners have to deal with such things, and I am not a weak person who can't endure them. Most of the situations I had to deal with were quite silly, and could have been easily avoided. On the top of that, many people placed the blame on moi in such cases, without knowing what actually happened.

Running this café doesn't really require a lot of time as some of you may imagine. As lot of the stuff here run on auto-pilot. It just wasn't fun trying to deal with a lot of stuff, all alone, and mostly without any appreciation. It's not that I get paid to do this, so I easily stopped. XD

I think I did the right choice leaving this place behind (for now). I still left some things open to the future, and I still have many plans for this place, but right now, I am just happy spending my time on Genshin Impact. :)

Since you guys want to see it. I will post my Alyssia design in my SweetMonia Gallery~ :3
SweetMoniaJul 13, 2021 12:19 AM
Jul 13, 2021 8:26 AM

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@sweetmonia I can understand that, and that's fair. By the way if I came across like I was complaining that wasn't the intent, more hoping for the future, of at some point reviving it maybe. While I've never ran a website or club or anything I get that it can be demanding, and that no matter what decisions you make not everyone will be happy with it, and the ones that aren't are going to make sure you know it while the ones that appreciate it see it as just doing as you should and don't actually thank you or help out often if at all. That's unfortunately human nature in modern times, and unfortunately I'm probably guilty of not thanking you enough for the hard work in the past too. It's good to see you by the way ^_^

Sorry, accidentally hit submit before I was done. I probably would have offered my help if I knew how you felt about it before, though realistically I know it probably wouldn't have changed anything. I'm not particularly good at being social or extroverted, and when I end up in a depressed mood I often will stop showing up on the site for months at a time. And with MAL having been down for so long and a bunch of people leaving for other things when it happened and just never coming back. I feel like the club was legitimately self sustaining before that, but even at the most active point afterwards it hadn't quite felt the same, and I know personally I don't know of anything that could have actually fixed it.
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A community is a group in which everyone pitches in to make something great, right? So it makes sense that you'd feel disappointed >.< I definitely also owe you a thank you for all the work you've done here. We tend to take it for granted but there's a reason why this is one of the very few clubs left standing.

well, you already know I'd help out if you decided to promote this club again ^^ like thuly-chan, I'm not good at social proactivity (frankly, that's what led me here initially) so I'd find it tough to make threads and whatnot, if that's the sort of thing you're talking about. but I'd do my mure best xD
Jul 14, 2021 1:31 AM

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@thulindar22:- Don't worry, I don't think you were complaining. Even if you were, it's fine as long as a good conversation happened because of it (instead of the silly arguments I often had to go through most all the time). I mostly agree with your description of the situation. People used to be more appreciative in the past though, which is a plus for this place.

Your help may not have changed much on its own, but along with the help of at least 3-4 other people, it would have made a difference. It would have been way better than the passive culture I kept seeing in the last 2-3 years. It would also have made me more willing to continue supporting this place & fix things slowly, which I know is totally doable (since I already have plans for it, ones that are shelved for the time being).
Jul 14, 2021 1:35 AM

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@Memor:- Hmmm, yeah! That's a good way to put it. You don't need to thank moi, since you already did many things for moi, but it makes me very happy you think that way :3

I am totally sure of that, dear Mure... There are many many ways to help, so even if you never made any thread, you can do a lot of other things you may be better at, and only when you have the time. Although if we are to revive this place again, I know I will encourage you to make one or two threads for the fun of it. ^^
Jul 14, 2021 10:49 AM

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@sweetmonia well, if you think i would actually be helpful then consider me open to helping when you do decide to go for it, if i'm not currently active at the time just send me a DM or something so my email sees it and i'll help as much as i'm able. if it's IRL stuff in the way of me being active at the time then i'll at least get back to you explaining why i can't, but i give 90% chance that i could at least try.

*sips root beer*
Jul 14, 2021 2:43 PM

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@SweetMonia you say so, but I'm not sure I could thank you enough, since this club is precious to me ^^

well, making threads could be a nice confidence boost xD just let me know if you ever make the decision, and I'll be there :3
Jul 14, 2021 2:47 PM

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Root beer, huh... I miss that ._.
even more than usual since my mother just arrived in America, and she's probably had some by now... =w=
Jul 14, 2021 4:23 PM

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What's your favorite root beer? or do you have one?
Jul 15, 2021 7:39 AM

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@Memor:-
@thulindar22:-
Awww, thank you two. I will make sure to tell you both about it :3


Thank you:-
Jul 15, 2021 7:40 AM

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I totally love how Cocoa is talking just like moi in that picture, specially with that also
Jul 15, 2021 10:34 AM

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yes, she does seem very similar there ^_^

i still need to get around to finishing that anime too, i have a lot of anime i put on indefinite hold because i liked them but wasn't feeling up to watching anything for a couple months. just never got back to them yet.
Jul 15, 2021 12:14 PM

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This happens to moi at times. There are times I started an Anime, then dropped it like a hard rock because I wasn't into it. Only to get back to it very eagerly. Saki was one of these, and I still remember how good it was.

On the other hand, I am completely fine not finishing an Anime if I didn't feel like it. Specially with how same-y many of them can be
Jul 15, 2021 3:41 PM

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Gochuumon season 4 when?! o3o time to say that every week for the next several years

I wish I could drop anime, but every time I consider it, I think but you've come this far without dropping, you can get through this too! =w=
Jul 15, 2021 9:20 PM

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There's no shame in dropping an anime that isn't any good mem-chan. What would happen hypothetically if you watched the first few episodes of one piece and didn't like it, how many legitimately good anime would you miss out on due to watching over 1000 more episodes of an anime you didn't like?
Jul 16, 2021 2:43 AM

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That actually (sort of) happened with One Piece, so I switched to the manga which is a lot better overall.
but you're right, I don't know what I'd do if I really disliked it. I'm lucky since all the really long anime I've seen (OP, Gintama, Detective Conan & Fairy Tail) turned out to be pretty enjoyable ^^

to answer your question earlier, I didn't think there were multiple types of root beer xD unless you're talking about brands?
Jul 16, 2021 11:22 AM

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Mostly about brands, but many of them have at least somewhat different recipes and ratios of ingredients so they do taste at least a little different.
Jul 16, 2021 1:00 PM

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The one* my family really likes is A&W. That, and it's the only I remember the name of xD how about you?
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A&W is probably my favorite too, although there are a few that I like that are microbrewed sodas. A local bottle shop has some 100 or so flavors of soda from across the country and in some cases neighboring countries, and a good portion of them are different root beers.
Jul 17, 2021 8:22 AM

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What is microbrewing? is it like homemade soda? That's cool though, being able to find so many sodas in one place ._.
Jul 17, 2021 9:29 AM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craft_brewery_and_microbrewery

It's more an alcohol thing. But soda companies have been doing it for a while too. Basically put, where most soda companies focus on making millions of liters of soda, a microbrewed soda company focuses on making far smaller volumes of soda with an emphasis on quality, variety, and/or novelty. They also tend to be the same price or a little higher for a smaller volume so effectively they tend to be more expensive. Think a 12oz bottle for the price of a 2 liter is on the cheap side.

They're nice for a special occasion type of thing.
Jul 17, 2021 1:06 PM

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Like you say, it sounds like a nice treat ^^
and it's cool since I bet you can get flavours that you'd never find elsewhere.

By the way, if you do watch Kanojo mo Kanojo, make sure you take this "who is your type" quiz and tell me your result :3

@Rythme you should do it too ^^
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The quiz result says I'm Naoya... ┬┴┬┴┤(x_├┬┴┬┴

Now Watching

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Jul 17, 2021 1:46 PM

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Rythme said:
The quiz result says I'm Naoya... ┬┴┬┴┤(x_├┬┴┬┴

(I should've mentioned, this is a quiz for which girl is your type, not who you are)

Apparently you get him if your results don't fit into any tropes and are more 'realistic'.
I think it sounds quite flattering xD
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My test result was the same, though I also did it a second time with one changed answer that I was on the fence for and got kiryu shino, she also has a purple color scheme which I like.
Jul 17, 2021 3:52 PM

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That's what I thought you'd get ^^
I got Nagisa, which is what I hoped for, since I like her a lot.


so you watched it already? o_o;
Jul 17, 2021 5:53 PM

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Nope, I haven't yet, I just took that test cus I wanted to take it without any bias, so I have no knowledge about the girl I got, nor the one it gave you XD

Actually I was on the fence for two of the questions not just one of them, but I haven't tried the other combinations yet, probably won't change much though.
Jul 17, 2021 6:14 PM

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The translation is only accurate if you pick cat on the first question though, it asks different things of dog people than cat people, and dog people get 7 questions.
Jul 18, 2021 9:28 AM

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*sips tea*
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earth delights to
feel your bare feet
and the winds long
to play with your
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Jul 18, 2021 9:30 AM

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*sips kvass*
Jul 18, 2021 11:04 AM

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thulindar22 said:
The translation is only accurate if you pick cat on the first question though, it asks different things of dog people than cat people, and dog people get 7 questions.

Huh, I had no idea. Did you pick dog then?
Jul 18, 2021 1:47 PM

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It was one of the ones I was on the fence for, so I picked dog the third time around and found that out.
Jul 18, 2021 2:11 PM

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I see xD
Jul 18, 2021 6:58 PM

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*sips apple peach mango juice*
Jul 19, 2021 1:14 AM

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You're really kicking my butt in the guessing game, huh ._.;
Jul 19, 2021 9:23 AM

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I've kept each of the clues so far fairly vague to encourage more guesses before the next one, they'll start to get more specific now, and you may or may not figuratively beat yourself up over not having gotten it earlier when you do XD
Jul 19, 2021 12:37 PM

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I considered her before, but I thought her hair was black... xD
So you were going to recommend me it, that means you enjoyed it?
Jul 19, 2021 12:51 PM

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It looks to me like a very dark brown, but maybe I'm wrong XD

And yes, I enjoyed it, I appreciated that she had a very realistic reaction to this random old guy propositioning her out of the blue and to him being an overly persistent jerk (jerk because he outright told her he didn't care about if his antics were bothering her or about her feelings on the matter). That said I could see how much of what happened afterwards could realistically come about.
Jul 19, 2021 1:35 PM

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I wasn't sure about it when it started out, but it evolved into a surprisingly realistic drama with very human characters. I felt bad for the other guy who liked her though, he seemed like such a genuinely sweet kid ; -;
Jul 19, 2021 9:51 PM

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he was yes, honestly the story wouldn't have been the same if she ended up with him, but it would've still been a great story, and the two of them also could have worked out quite well IMO. Actually if i'm being honest, i feel like she should've ended up with him. mostly because if i were in her shoes i would've picked the classmate, not because of any age gap, but just because of how persistent the salaryman was with harassing her. It would've left me with a really poor impression that (all else being similar as they are) he wouldn't really ever recover from, but then again i can hold a grudge and if she doesn't hold grudges for long i can see her forgiving him much easier than i would. XD
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SweetMonia said:
The reason why this café is dead is complicated. I literally need to write a very huge wall of text to explain it, but I will keep it short.

To be honest. This café is mainly dead because I was so disappointed by it. Everyone wanted it to be active, but very very few people were willing to contribute, even by a little. That's not how a good & vibrant should operate in my opinion. Not to be arrogant, but I was literally the only reason it was kept alive, which you can see with how it died quickly the moment I stopped supporting it (besides other reasons). It wasn't a self-sustained community at all.

When it comes to the activity, it turned a bit dull at the end, even though it was very active in theory. Members in general weren't that cooperative in addition to that. I tried to fix some of that by locking the games threads, which we had quite a lot of. The issue is, locking these threads also requires that I spend some time to create replacements for them, which I simply wasn't willing to do due to my lack of motivation (my mistake). It was given that at least some members were going to leave, but I still did it, and I totally stand behind that decision. This café stayed successful for a long time because it managed to reinvent itself over & over. I don't mind tweaking my decisions here & there, but those who oppose change are explicitly against the culture of this place. Hard to explain the whole situation without writing much more, so I will stop here.

Also, the kind of drama I had to deal with wasn't acceptable. I totally understand that owners have to deal with such things, and I am not a weak person who can't endure them. Most of the situations I had to deal with were quite silly, and could have been easily avoided. On the top of that, many people placed the blame on moi in such cases, without knowing what actually happened.

Running this café doesn't really require a lot of time as some of you may imagine. As lot of the stuff here run on auto-pilot. It just wasn't fun trying to deal with a lot of stuff, all alone, and mostly without any appreciation. It's not that I get paid to do this, so I easily stopped. XD

I think I did the right choice leaving this place behind (for now). I still left some things open to the future, and I still have many plans for this place, but right now, I am just happy spending my time on Genshin Impact. :)

Since you guys want to see it. I will post my Alyssia design in my SweetMonia Gallery~ :3


Forums as a medium are slowly dying for social media, they don't have the instant content like other sources do in this day and age. Mostly on reddit myself.
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thulindar22 said:
he was yes, honestly the story wouldn't have been the same if she ended up with him, but it would've still been a great story, and the two of them also could have worked out quite well IMO. Actually if i'm being honest, i feel like she should've ended up with him. mostly because if i were in her shoes i would've picked the classmate, not because of any age gap, but just because of how persistent the salaryman was with harassing her. It would've left me with a really poor impression that (all else being similar as they are) he wouldn't really ever recover from, but then again i can hold a grudge and if she doesn't hold grudges for long i can see her forgiving him much easier than i would. XD

This is why the first couple episodes were the worst part for me, it just felt too unrealistic that she'd just let him stalk and harass her. If this were a comedy anime I'd suspend my disbelief, but the author clearly wants us to take it seriously :s
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