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Feb 4, 2021 10:48 AM
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Tbh i really think the story is actually good like a 6/10 good i could be better if the writing was a bit better and also a tinny bit 👌 less of ecchi(but i guess that the point of it so whatev.. ) . But aside from that i see that the score to this juicy anime is droppin' faster than any other "hated" show i have ever seen
Do you think its gonna reach culture anime territory??? cuz most of those have a score of 6.5/10 and below .
Ps: I REPEAT.. i think that the plot is actually good
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Feb 4, 2021 10:57 AM
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I think itwill stay constant around 6.5 though it may go to 6.4. This is due to controversial elemen5s causing 1 and 2/10 reviews by people who have not watched this.
Feb 4, 2021 11:56 AM
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I wouldn't have even touched this if the genre's say mild nudity or Hentai/softporn. It was a misleading by MAL. They should fix this or the score will drop even lower, but I don't care bc it isn't good anyway.
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Feb 4, 2021 12:37 PM
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Lowest it will go is 6.09 I would guess at the pace it's falling
Feb 4, 2021 12:38 PM
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I currently have the anime as a 5/10, but when this anime ends I think it will probably sit around low 6's.
Feb 4, 2021 12:42 PM
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2Fujiwara2 said:
I wouldn't have even touched this if the genre's say mild nudity or Hentai/softporn. It was a misleading by MAL. They should fix this or the score will drop even lower, but I don't care bc it isn't good anyway.
yeh it said 17+ only violence at first, but its fixed now its R+
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Feb 4, 2021 12:46 PM
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Yeah, I noticed too. Anyway it's more than just Ecchines. For me it's too much.

Feb 4, 2021 1:13 PM
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I don't expect it to be lower than 6, so... who knows?
I gave it an 8 unironically tho.
Feb 4, 2021 1:25 PM
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2Fujiwara2 said:
I wouldn't have even touched this if the genre's say mild nudity or Hentai/softporn. It was a misleading by MAL. They should fix this or the score will drop even lower, but I don't care bc it isn't good anyway.
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Feb 4, 2021 1:28 PM
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It depends on the number of people trying it. I dont rate an anime until I finish it, but most people rate after watching the first 2-3 episodes, so that explains the score. Personally, the story is kinda disappointing so far, thus I believe it will reach the 5 score mark (still above 5.5)
Feb 4, 2021 9:57 PM

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Jznh_ said:
2Fujiwara2 said:
I wouldn't have even touched this if the genre's say mild nudity or Hentai/softporn. It was a misleading by MAL. They should fix this or the score will drop even lower, but I don't care bc it isn't good anyway.
You have problems don't you


Less than you I guess

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2Fujiwara2 said:
Jznh_ said:
You have problems don't you


Less than you I guess


Did this person just jump on you for not liking hentai softporn etc? xD
Feb 5, 2021 12:07 AM

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AsunaYuukii said:
2Fujiwara2 said:


Less than you I guess


Did this person just jump on you for not liking hentai softporn etc? xD


Yeah , it looks like it. :)

Feb 5, 2021 12:21 AM

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I wish below 5...!!!
Feb 5, 2021 12:40 AM

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ENG_BOY said:
Tbh i really think the story is actually good like a 6/10 good i could be better if the writing was a bit better and also a tinny bit 👌 less of ecchi(but i guess that the point of it so whatev.. ) . But aside from that i see that the score to this juicy anime is droppin' faster than any other "hated" show i have ever seen
Do you think its gonna reach culture anime territory??? cuz most of those have a score of 6.5/10 and below .
Ps: I REPEAT.. i think that the plot is actually good

The score is dropping for 2 reasons:
1. the "sex" scenes aren't really done very good
2. the sjws are catching word of it and brigading the score.

Less ecchi is not the answer. Done better ecchi is.

EDIT: or maybe 3 reasons:
3. Some creative choices don't flow well.

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I gave it an 8 unironically tho.

Same but subsequently I lowered it to a 7.
Feb 5, 2021 2:49 AM
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2Fujiwara2 said:
Jznh_ said:
You have problems don't you


Less than you I guess
Hmmmmmmmm yes, but I only said that because you said you haven't touched the Anime and yet you said that isn't good, that is okay but at least see one episode before saying that, and I don't know why people are complaining about nudity, sex, and other aspects, the Anime IS about that.
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Jznh_ said:
2Fujiwara2 said:


Less than you I guess
Hmmmmmmmm yes, but I only said that because you said you haven't touched the Anime and yet you said that isn't good, that is okay but at least see one episode before saying that, and I don't know why people are complaining about nudity, sex, and other aspects, the Anime IS about that.



Yeah I seen 3 episodes, it was enough for me.

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2Fujiwara2 said:
Jznh_ said:
Hmmmmmmmm yes, but I only said that because you said you haven't touched the Anime and yet you said that isn't good, that is okay but at least see one episode before saying that, and I don't know why people are complaining about nudity, sex, and other aspects, the Anime IS about that.



Yeah I seen 3 episodes, it was enough for me.
Then Have a great day
Feb 5, 2021 3:36 AM

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Jznh_ said:
2Fujiwara2 said:



Yeah I seen 3 episodes, it was enough for me.
Then Have a great day


Thank you, have a great day to you too!

Feb 5, 2021 4:18 AM

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This is MAL. Most people don't use the full rating system. They use 5-10. If people use the whole scale, this would be lower. They don't. You have to fuck up spectacularly for this to drop below 5 even though it and a whole host of anime shows need to drop below 5. Any botting by one side is typically counteracted by botting by another side. How do you think this is floating at an actual good rating (in a normal rating system) of 6.4?
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Feb 5, 2021 8:46 AM
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It would probably be around 7 or 8 if it wasn't for the review bombing, but MAL doesn't care about true scores.
Feb 5, 2021 11:15 AM

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Voidian said:
It would probably be around 7 or 8 if it wasn't for the review bombing, but MAL doesn't care about true scores.

It would probably be around 4 if it wasn’t for all the people who just scored this a 10 to “own the libs”.
The ridiculous amount of 1 & 10 scores are two sides of the same coin, but the 10s are honestly less justifiable (even if people like it for its sexual content, the animation, art & story are definitely not 10 worthy). There are way more 10s than 1s.
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StormxNightmare said:
Voidian said:
It would probably be around 7 or 8 if it wasn't for the review bombing, but MAL doesn't care about true scores.

It would probably be around 4 if it wasn’t for all the people who just scored this a 10 to “own the libs”.
The ridiculous amount of 1 & 10 scores are two sides of the same coin, but the 10s are honestly less justifiable (even if people like it for its sexual content, the animation, art & story are definitely not 10 worthy). There are way more 10s than 1s.
Hello fellow non-lib, who is for some reason constantly angry on behalf of the libs, despite no one in this thread talking about libs! Man, I sure do hate it when these basement dwellers talk bad about libs (even though I am totally not a lib)!
Feb 5, 2021 6:14 PM

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It will rise to a high 6 or low 7.

The people giving it a 1 or 10 have likely already decided. Users who only have watched one fifth of the episodes get excluded from the score so that biases against the 1/10s. And the majority of people who don't care are likely to only go with 7 due to @Eanki 's perspective.
Feb 5, 2021 6:18 PM
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GreenPlatinum said:
It will rise to a high 6 or low 7.

The people giving it a 1 or 10 have likely already decided. Users who only have watched one fifth of the episodes get excluded from the score so that biases against the 1/10s. And the majority of people who don't care are likely to only go with 7 due to @Eanki 's perspective.
I imagine it will go up after episode 6, which will probably be the craziest episode.
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choochootrain1 said:
GreenPlatinum said:
It will rise to a high 6 or low 7.

The people giving it a 1 or 10 have likely already decided. Users who only have watched one fifth of the episodes get excluded from the score so that biases against the 1/10s. And the majority of people who don't care are likely to only go with 7 due to @Eanki 's perspective.
I imagine it will go up after episode 6, which will probably be the craziest episode.

I'm not sure it will.
Feb 5, 2021 7:21 PM
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GreenPlatinum said:
not sure it will
I’ve read the manga, episode 6 or so should be... interesting.
Feb 5, 2021 7:48 PM
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StormxNightmare said:
Voidian said:
It would probably be around 7 or 8 if it wasn't for the review bombing, but MAL doesn't care about true scores.

It would probably be around 4 if it wasn’t for all the people who just scored this a 10 to “own the libs”.
The ridiculous amount of 1 & 10 scores are two sides of the same coin, but the 10s are honestly less justifiable (even if people like it for its sexual content, the animation, art & story are definitely not 10 worthy). There are way more 10s than 1s.


If you look at the stats for this show excluding 1 and 10 it goes from largest pool: 7/6/8/9
Without bombing from both sides it would probly be a strong 7.
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Dreezo said:
If you look at the stats for this show excluding 1 and 10 it goes from largest pool: 7/6/8/9
Without bombing from both sides it would probly be a strong 7.
You are correct. The 1’s have a bigger impact on the score (even though there’s less of them) because they are farther from the mean score. It’s why an F in school generally affects your grade more than an A.
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Genjurooo said:
ENG_BOY said:
Tbh i really think the story is actually good like a 6/10 good i could be better if the writing was a bit better and also a tinny bit 👌 less of ecchi(but i guess that the point of it so whatev.. ) . But aside from that i see that the score to this juicy anime is droppin' faster than any other "hated" show i have ever seen
Do you think its gonna reach culture anime territory??? cuz most of those have a score of 6.5/10 and below .
Ps: I REPEAT.. i think that the plot is actually good

The score is dropping for 2 reasons:
1. the "sex" scenes aren't really done very good
2. the sjws are catching word of it and brigading the score.

Less ecchi is not the answer. Done better ecchi is.

EDIT: or maybe 3 reasons:
3. Some creative choices don't flow well.

Playay said:
I gave it an 8 unironically tho.

Same but subsequently I lowered it to a 7.


I just watched 4 episodes. those Sjw's this time have a point. this crap shouldn't have been made.

The show isn't bad because of revenge-r@pe and stuff, but how it uses those dark elements in the story. It's an incel revenge fantasy.
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Spiegel_san said:
I just watched 4 episodes. those Sjw's this time have a point. this crap shouldn't have been made.
You probably agree with them because you might be one. They’re the only ones calling for this to “stop getting made”.

Spiegel_san said:
The show isn't bad because of revenge-r@pe and stuff, but how it uses those dark elements in the story. It's an incel revenge fantasy.
“Everything I don’t like is incel!”
I’m sure if you spam this enough times, you’ll finally convince people.
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choochootrain1 said:
Spiegel_san said:
I just watched 4 episodes. those Sjw's this time have a point. this crap shouldn't have been made.
You probably agree with them because you might be one. They’re the only ones calling for this to “stop getting made”.

Spiegel_san said:
The show isn't bad because of revenge-r@pe and stuff, but how it uses those dark elements in the story. It's an incel revenge fantasy.
“Everything I don’t like is incel!”
I’m sure if you spam this enough times, you’ll finally convince people.


I'm really not. I don't like wokescolding, but the label is overused to deflect criticism. I don't think Lolita by Nabokov should've stopped from being made. I even read it and thought it was a good book because the author knew how to approach dark topics, without fetishizing them.

there is a place for dark elements and sex in stories, I'm not against them, but they should be approached with more maturity. Like Himegoto: Juukyuusai no Seifuku did it, but This show is made by an edgy 14-year-old.

Maybe incel is not the right word, but I'm sure they would support shows like this.
But still, it's a fetishized revenge fantasy and really bad at that one, because they try to portray the protagonist as a victim and that he is morally right to do all those things. How I know that just go and read what the watchers of the show comment under episode posts

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Spiegel_san said:

I'm really not. I don't like wokescolding, but the label is overused to deflect criticism. I don't think Lolita by Nabokov should've stopped from being made. I even read it and thought it was a good book because the author knew how to approach dark topics, without fetishizing them.

there is a place for dark elements and sex in stories, I'm not against them, but they should be approached with more maturity. Like Himegoto: Juukyuusai no Seifuku did it, but This show is made by an edgy 14-year-old.

Maybe incel is not the right word, but I'm sure they would support shows like this.
But still, it's a fetishized revenge fantasy and really bad at that one, because they try to portray the protagonist as a victim and that he is morally right to do all those things. How I know that just go and read what the watchers of the show comment under episode posts

Ok, I just don’t think that something should be judged based on its fanbase. If you think the story’s bad, that’s perfectly fine though. However, I do not think the protagonist is portrayed as totally justified. You’ll see that he’ll do more bad stuff, and it won’t only be against his main revenge targets or people that deserve it; he just gets crazier.
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Ok, I just don’t think that something should be judged based on its fanbase. If you think the story’s bad, that’s perfectly fine though. However, I do not think the protagonist is portrayed as totally justified. You’ll see that he’ll do more bad stuff, and it won’t only be against his main revenge targets or people that deserve it; he just gets crazier.


I agree that it shouldn't be judged by its fanbase like I don't judge My Little puny by a 20-year-old watching it, but in this case, it's only confirming my initial thoughts on how the show approaches those topics.

about justifying protagonist's actions
Some authors use third party reactions to tell how we should view some events, or protagonist narrations and flashbacks. This show puts torture flashbacks of the protagonist in before his evil acts. Why did they make that choice? What emotion did showrunners want to rile up in us?
Feb 5, 2021 10:29 PM
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Spiegel_san said:
This show puts torture flashbacks of the protagonist in before his evil acts. Why did they make that choice? What emotion did showrunners want to rile up in us?
To show that the bad guys are even worse and deserve no sympathy. Also, I guess to sympathize with Keyaru a little bit. But you can sympathize with someone without agreeing with them; if a rape victim went and shot the rapist, they should still go to jail, but it is at least a little bit understandable.
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choochootrain1 said:
Hello fellow non-lib, who is for some reason constantly angry on behalf of the libs, despite no one in this thread talking about libs! Man, I sure do hate it when these basement dwellers talk bad about libs (even though I am totally not a lib)!

Lmao, I never claimed to be one of y’all (even tho I wouldn’t call people who like this basement dwellers). And true, no one in this thread does, but the majority of threads here are full of angry people who rant about the evil SJW (the word has fallen even in this thread by now).
That being said, I’m not American, so I wouldn’t identify myself with either side. Morality wise I’m probably more on the lib side, so I guess you’re spot on ;)

Dreezo said:
If you look at the stats for this show excluding 1 and 10 it goes from largest pool: 7/6/8/9
Without bombing from both sides it would probly be a strong 7.

Fair enough.
I’m too lazy to do the actual math, so I’m just gonna trust you on that.

Edit: Nevermind, I did the math with the current stats. If you exclude all the 10s and all the 1s, the overall score is 6,33 - so even lower than it is now. But it's still not a 4, so I was wrong too ^^
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Dreezo said:
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It would probably be around 4 if it wasn’t for all the people who just scored this a 10 to “own the libs”.
The ridiculous amount of 1 & 10 scores are two sides of the same coin, but the 10s are honestly less justifiable (even if people like it for its sexual content, the animation, art & story are definitely not 10 worthy). There are way more 10s than 1s.


If you look at the stats for this show excluding 1 and 10 it goes from largest pool: 7/6/8/9
Without bombing from both sides it would probly be a strong 7.

Because it's MAL. Which sucks at ratings. This is why it needs critics score and audience score, so at least one score can use the full 1-10 system.
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Eanki said:
Dreezo said:


If you look at the stats for this show excluding 1 and 10 it goes from largest pool: 7/6/8/9
Without bombing from both sides it would probly be a strong 7.

Because it's MAL. Which sucks at ratings. This is why it needs critics score and audience score, so at least one score can use the full 1-10 system.

why would we need something so redundant as "critics" score
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Dreezo said:
Eanki said:

Because it's MAL. Which sucks at ratings. This is why it needs critics score and audience score, so at least one score can use the full 1-10 system.

why would we need something so redundant as "critics" score

We have a rating system that ranges from 5 to 10, in a system that allows for from 1 to 10. Its pathetic. The full range needs to be used.
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