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do you romanticize true colors of people?
Jun 21, 2020 2:13 AM
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we all heard that song about true colors being romanticize so why is that?

to me true colors goes like this

its appeal to nature, since true colors relates to natural or be yourself kind and what is the basic nature of us? caveman mentality and even animal instincts since we still have not evolve yet from those cavemen years our ancestors experience, lasting evolutionary changes takes like hundreds of thousands of years to even a million years

its appeal to emotion too since what do people do to check the true colors of someone? they do a stress test and when we are stress we get emotional and emotion overrides reason in this case so we go autopilot mode like instinct mode again, high emotional states are usually negative too like anger and frustration

so ye why do we romanticize true colors again? i like to hear some counter explanations of what i have said right now about this
Jun 21, 2020 4:47 AM
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what's a true colour in the first place ?
Jun 21, 2020 4:48 AM
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Because that's just easier to write about and people like seeing it.
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Jun 21, 2020 4:58 AM
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Damuzen said:
what's a true colour in the first place ?


well this one elaborated on it



maybe its the duality of man stuff
brain vs heart
guardian angel vs villain demon
good vs evil

and the good side is the true colors but like i explained the stress test to show this true colors for example is prone to bring out the negative nature of someone anyway lol
Jun 21, 2020 5:30 AM
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Hm it's a lot more comfortable to believe that all the bad humanity does is just a mask, an act, part of the desire to be accepted.

In reality most good behavior stems from it simply being unacceptable to behave like their true selves, with true selves generally being among the more rotten stuff I've seen in life. Part of it is also wanting to impress those one looks up to. It's difficult to find a balance between "please be yourself" and "don't be a crappy excuse for a human being". In that sense I too am part of the problem.
Jun 21, 2020 5:35 AM
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Semantics matter...
No color is truer than another.
All experience is worth the same, absolute as is.
Color perception happens to be both cultural and determined by birth.
I will not believe there is a true color, it has ever been a global inconscious consensus.


Seems it got clearer with some discussion. Well, then.
First off, I really like your explanation using the word "stress". Because it relates to distress and instinct, effectively.

Appearing true is conforming with the expectations of others. Their trust in you supposedly eases their life.
Being confirmed in your uncontrolled expectations makes one feel prideful.
Being denied uncontrolled trust will hurt your pride, regardless of your trust being ill-placed in the first place.

We romantize "true colors" because most of us lie throughout our life (lives? depending on the number of identities we decide to adopt).
Kind of like how society is a shackle, idealizing the true nature of man will mean a riot against the shackle. Some lone wolf pride.

I do wish to mention the term "true" is misfit and plainly wrong. Nature is existence, existence is coherent.
There is no "false" in existence. "False" is a conception that belongs to the mind. For programming for example, "false" translates to an existence: 0. But 0 is "true" because 0 exists.

If we adopt behavioral traits based on positive output from our environment, it is called adaptation and is a good thing (so long as we can feel pleasure), because it permits our survival and our hedonistic quests.

But, at least to me, being whimsical is part of heroism. Because it means bending reality to your will. Egoism, as far as hedonism is concerned, is the truest humans may ever get.
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Jun 21, 2020 5:53 AM
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I mean, the common argument for the significance of true colors would be that it'll come to light eventually, and it's better to have the full knowledge of it before deciding to have relations with someone to not be misled. This argument of course falls apart if someone can live their whole life in their "fake colors" whatever that means, or idk improve upon themself and have that as their true colors. The term itself is pretty loaded actually, what is a "true color"? I think most people at their core just want to live comfortably without any impediments and will adjust themselves to attain that goal. It's not like a set-in-stone thing that isn't amenable to change.
Jun 21, 2020 6:03 AM
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@Lolsebca
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>We romantize "true colors" because most of us lie throughout our life
>Some lone wolf pride.
>the common argument for the significance of true colors would be that it'll come to light eventually
>improve upon themself and have that as their true colors.

those are interesting quotes

ye i understand that lone wolf is like being an outlier or different than the norm or you are different from the common or lesser men goddamn sphinxter lol

and like fake it until you make it or role play as much as the good guy and you will eventually become one sort of redemption arc i guess

still though the majority will be failures and i find that a tragedy instead

lol reminds me of darwinism again and ye relates to sexual selection stuff of this song on this thread
Jun 21, 2020 1:29 PM
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i still think the stress test that people do (or even god/s do) to see this so called true colors of people is prone to failure since stressful experiences means you will do out of character things (usually bad) most of the times
Jun 21, 2020 5:24 PM

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here i thought this was going to be a ethno nationalist thread

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Jun 22, 2020 7:30 AM

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I've yet to see people eroticize false colors.
Jun 22, 2020 9:01 AM

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Konradikon said:
I've yet to see people eroticize false colors.


thats some proof by contradiction stuff lol i like it
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Jun 22, 2020 12:55 PM

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i think that we’re constantly guessing about other people. humans dislike uncertainty, knowing how someone actually is will help us decide how to handle others, or make sure the self doesn’t get hurt.

“people can never understand each other 100% that’s what makes life interesting”
-kaji

nothing is ever certain, especially when it comes to people.

ralph waldo emerson once said that value or opinion one has on another is based on their last action, thought, deed, etc. as time moves on, this can change as people are constantly changing. it’s useless to be seen as entirely good or entirely bad by others because of this, furthermore advocating the idea of a true or natural self.
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Jun 23, 2020 2:54 AM

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Well, I'm stressed all of the time so my true colours are pretty much always shown if I speak, even if, as you said, it can be out of character. I still see that as an image of my true self to improve on.

I have never seen anyone romanticise someone being true to themselves before, that's a strong word and assumes that the person can do no bad. Obviously, they can do bad, but they won't hide it from you so I can understand why people might accept that.
If that's the case though, then a lot of people also romanticise lies if they are not known to the person, which leads to manipulation and being used for someone's gratification.
Unless you're referring to simply liking someone being themselves, seeing both the good and bad, and there's nothing wrong with that at all if they're true.
Jun 24, 2020 6:45 AM
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I don't think so? I'm not sure if I grasp the meaning of this thread, but I don't think people have a "pure self" underneath their personality. You are what you do, if you're capable of being a better person than just be one. But most people just fool themselves into thinking that they or others have a different personality underneath.

But also, you can't take everything at face value. When you piss someone off enough, they'll say something that hurts you and they won't mean it at all. If you push someone to the breaking point, you can't act as if their broken spirit is who they "truly" are. You can manipulate people into behaving a certain way, in stress situations we don't think things through as much. Our survival instinct isn't our personality.
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"do you romanticize true colors of people?"

Sometimes.
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I trust not in roses that unfurl their petals only in the veil of moonlight, for such beauty is fleeting. Forgive me, my love, for I seek what endures. Yet still, my heart longs for miracles - the kind that reveal true colors even in the light of day.
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I trust not in roses that unfurl their petals only in the veil of moonlight, for such beauty is fleeting. Forgive me, my love, for I seek what endures. Yet still, my heart longs for miracles - the kind that reveal true colors even in the light of day.
@LoveYourSmile perfect for the said romanticization of it
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I didn't even know about that "true color" nonsense until now.
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