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Nov 20, 2018 5:10 PM
#1
| Seeing how someone told me this is AOT material, I want to know if its actually good or garbage? Im leaning on garbage thats overrated like that other Chinese animation called the Chinese SAO. |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
Nov 20, 2018 5:50 PM
#2
| Well, yeah, it's good. The show doesn't treat its audience like idiots, it doesn't spell anything out for us which makes characters and their motivations more realistic. The story itself is engaging, you're just as confused as the main character when you start it and things start to unfold from there, the novel's more consistent with it but animes fine too. The tone is consistent, none of the characters have broken powers even if it seems like they do, but that's spoilers... OST and animation are amazing for a Chinese anime, hell this has better production value than most Japanese anime. It's hard to explain without spoiling the novel, manga, and anime because it's something you have to watch to get. The next season of this anime adapts the stuff which is way better than what this season did, and considering this season was great, next season will be better if they keep the consistency. More then anything this anime is underrated considering no one talks about it. |
Nov 20, 2018 6:45 PM
#3
| Like is it even necessary? why are you even hatefully asking this after dropping it at such low score? like there's no problem if you don't like it. If you're claiming that this is garbage without even listing the logical reasons, then your opinion lies with the typical mindless hating and troll comments that are found everywhere on the internet, I'm not even a bit surprised at this kind of sour behavior. So, then why not bother and put an effort and provide a constructive criticism? |
Nightmare_GrimmNov 20, 2018 7:15 PM
Nov 20, 2018 6:54 PM
#4
BackstageMage said: Well, yeah, it's good. The show doesn't treat its audience like idiots, it doesn't spell anything out for us which makes characters and their motivations more realistic. The story itself is engaging, you're just as confused as the main character when you start it and things start to unfold from there, the novel's more consistent with it but animes fine too. The tone is consistent, none of the characters have broken powers even if it seems like they do, but that's spoilers... OST and animation are amazing for a Chinese anime, hell this has better production value than most Japanese anime. It's hard to explain without spoiling the novel, manga, and anime because it's something you have to watch to get. The next season of this anime adapts the stuff which is way better than what this season did, and considering this season was great, next season will be better if they keep the consistency. More then anything this anime is underrated considering no one talks about it. Yup! all of this!! Can't wait for the second season, as the story indeed gets way better and the introduction of more relatable characters. |
Nov 20, 2018 8:38 PM
#5
| It’s not perfect but definitely deserves more than 3/10. What’s your problem dude? |
Nov 20, 2018 8:47 PM
#6
0nnen said: it's so boring i can barely watch 7 episodes without dreading a long 25+ min episode of nothing happening. It's complete garbage and i can barely understand the 8.68 score (also the several gintama and bnha entries). It’s not perfect but definitely deserves more than 3/10. What’s your problem dude? |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
Nov 20, 2018 8:53 PM
#7
| I'm not finished it yet, but so far it's been quite decent. The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I'm a big Xianxia and Wuxia novel reader, if this were a novel I wouldn't give this series a second glance, the plot itself is just ehh, there's just so much superior competition. I would say, based on what I've read thus far, that this anime is enjoyable for it's technical aspects (animation, sound) rather than its plot and characters. |
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Nov 20, 2018 9:21 PM
#8
| @Backstagemage >this anime< every bit of my bones were triggered by this |
Nov 20, 2018 9:21 PM
#9
| i think it's an average donghua. |
Nov 20, 2018 9:46 PM
#10
Fuchsia said: I'm not finished it yet, but so far it's been quite decent. The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I'm a big Xianxia and Wuxia novel reader, if this were a novel I wouldn't give this series a second glance, the plot itself is just ehh, there's just so much superior competition. I would say, based on what I've read thus far, that this anime is enjoyable for it's technical aspects (animation, sound) rather than its plot and characters. The novel is far better than the donghua, the donghua is still good but it left lots of details and explanations from the novel, and there are quite some changes that were done in the donghua too. Also where is "overemphasis bl" came from? the donghua has absolutely zero BL moments, there's no romance, even in the novel it isn't the whole focus, it takes 5% of the story only, and it progress extremely slowly, it's more like an innocent BL, it's not forced or rushed. The donghua doesn't even show a trace of BL between the MC and the ML, since in China they prohibit from showing BL on TV, due to the Chinese government which is very strict on that stuff. And don't mind if I ask what is "sol"? |
Nov 20, 2018 9:50 PM
#11
| @Xiao_Xingchen wait!, there is actually someone like you in mal?! this is madness, escape while you still can, there is only darkness that gravitate you to it protect your sensible intelligence! but in all actuality, good writing! |
Nov 20, 2018 10:03 PM
#12
Phantomnocomics said: @Xiao_Xingchen wait!, there is actually someone like you in mal?! this is madness, escape while you still can, there is only darkness that gravitate you to it protect your sensible intelligence! but in all actuality, good writing! Right, thanks I guess! I'm not escaping though. XD Sadly there are few people with common sense in MAL. |
Nov 20, 2018 10:58 PM
#13
Botan-Chan45 said: 0nnen said: it's so boring i can barely watch 7 episodes without dreading a long 25+ min episode of nothing happening. It's complete garbage and i can barely understand the 8.68 score (also the several gintama and bnha entries). It’s not perfect but definitely deserves more than 3/10. What’s your problem dude? The conflicts starts happening in episode 8, the first 7 episodes are "the calm before the storm", it gets tense and eventually very tragic |
Nightmare_GrimmNov 20, 2018 11:01 PM
Nov 20, 2018 11:06 PM
#14
Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: I'm not finished it yet, but so far it's been quite decent. The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I'm a big Xianxia and Wuxia novel reader, if this were a novel I wouldn't give this series a second glance, the plot itself is just ehh, there's just so much superior competition. I would say, based on what I've read thus far, that this anime is enjoyable for it's technical aspects (animation, sound) rather than its plot and characters. The novel is far better than the donghua, the donghua is still good but it left lots of details and explanations from the novel, and there are quite some changes that were done in the donghua too. Also where is "overemphasis bl" came from? the donghua has absolutely zero BL moments, there's no romance, even in the novel it isn't the whole focus, it takes 5% of the story only, and it progress extremely slowly, it's more like an innocent BL, it's not forced or rushed. The donghua doesn't even show a trace of BL between the MC and the ML, since in China they prohibit from showing BL on TV, due to the Chinese government which is very strict on that stuff. And don't mind if I ask what is "sol"? I mean, i'm only 4 episodes in and there's already quite a bit of hinting towards this, not to mention the synopsis. From the mutual flirtation along the way, Wei Wuxian slowly realizes that Lan Wangji, a seemingly haughty and indifferent poker-face, holds more feelings for Wei Wuxian than he is letting on. When I said bl I didn't mean the guys are literally fucking, more so that they're flirting and such. Sol is slice of life, something that I believe, and have seen, too much of ruin a wuxia/xianxia. That's not to say it's unneeded in the genres, because it clearly is, but I've just noticed at least so far a bit of an emphasis on it, which is odd given the plot. |
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Nov 20, 2018 11:24 PM
#15
Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: I'm not finished it yet, but so far it's been quite decent. The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I'm a big Xianxia and Wuxia novel reader, if this were a novel I wouldn't give this series a second glance, the plot itself is just ehh, there's just so much superior competition. I would say, based on what I've read thus far, that this anime is enjoyable for it's technical aspects (animation, sound) rather than its plot and characters. The novel is far better than the donghua, the donghua is still good but it left lots of details and explanations from the novel, and there are quite some changes that were done in the donghua too. Also where is "overemphasis bl" came from? the donghua has absolutely zero BL moments, there's no romance, even in the novel it isn't the whole focus, it takes 5% of the story only, and it progress extremely slowly, it's more like an innocent BL, it's not forced or rushed. The donghua doesn't even show a trace of BL between the MC and the ML, since in China they prohibit from showing BL on TV, due to the Chinese government which is very strict on that stuff. And don't mind if I ask what is "sol"? I mean, i'm only 4 episodes in and there's already quite a bit of hinting towards this, not to mention the synopsis. From the mutual flirtation along the way, Wei Wuxian slowly realizes that Lan Wangji, a seemingly haughty and indifferent poker-face, holds more feelings for Wei Wuxian than he is letting on. When I said bl I didn't mean the guys are literally fucking, more so that they're flirting and such. Sol is slice of life, something that I believe, and have seen, too much of ruin a wuxia/xianxia. That's not to say it's unneeded in the genres, because it clearly is, but I've just noticed at least so far a bit of an emphasis on it, which is odd given the plot. Don't judge based of the synopsis because let me tell you it isn't what is going to be presented in the donghua right away, the situation in the donghua is different from that of the novel. The production team of the donghua has to tone down even the innocent cute moments between the MC and ML, and make it look like a bromance. This is no typical BL, when everything is right in your face, and I get what you mean by BL, I didn't assume that you're meaning by "sexual content", even flirting there's none, it's more like the MC teasing to trigger a certain someone (even in the novel it's like that, so basically the BL in the novel is extremely slow), but that's the MC's nature with serious people, and he likes to mess around and joke around. There's no BL, specifically this is not even considered a shounen ai, and shounen ai is the innocent/pure love version of yaoi. That's what I meant there's no romance, meaning that there's no shounen ai elements. |
Nov 20, 2018 11:34 PM
#16
Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: I'm not finished it yet, but so far it's been quite decent. The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I'm a big Xianxia and Wuxia novel reader, if this were a novel I wouldn't give this series a second glance, the plot itself is just ehh, there's just so much superior competition. I would say, based on what I've read thus far, that this anime is enjoyable for it's technical aspects (animation, sound) rather than its plot and characters. The novel is far better than the donghua, the donghua is still good but it left lots of details and explanations from the novel, and there are quite some changes that were done in the donghua too. Also where is "overemphasis bl" came from? the donghua has absolutely zero BL moments, there's no romance, even in the novel it isn't the whole focus, it takes 5% of the story only, and it progress extremely slowly, it's more like an innocent BL, it's not forced or rushed. The donghua doesn't even show a trace of BL between the MC and the ML, since in China they prohibit from showing BL on TV, due to the Chinese government which is very strict on that stuff. And don't mind if I ask what is "sol"? I mean, i'm only 4 episodes in and there's already quite a bit of hinting towards this, not to mention the synopsis. From the mutual flirtation along the way, Wei Wuxian slowly realizes that Lan Wangji, a seemingly haughty and indifferent poker-face, holds more feelings for Wei Wuxian than he is letting on. When I said bl I didn't mean the guys are literally fucking, more so that they're flirting and such. Sol is slice of life, something that I believe, and have seen, too much of ruin a wuxia/xianxia. That's not to say it's unneeded in the genres, because it clearly is, but I've just noticed at least so far a bit of an emphasis on it, which is odd given the plot. Don't judge based of the synopsis because let me tell you it isn't what is going to be presented in the donghua right away, the situation in the donghua is different from that of the novel. The production team of the donghua has to tone down even the innocent cute moments between the MC and ML, and make it look like a bromance. This is no typical BL, when everything is right in your face, and I get what you mean by BL, I didn't assume that you're meaning by "sexual content", even flirting there's none, it's more like the MC teasing to trigger a certain someone (even in the novel it's like that, so basically the BL in the novel is extremely slow), but that's the MC's nature with serious people, and he likes to mess around and joke around. There's no BL, specifically this is not even considered a shounen ai, and shounen ai is the innocent/pure love version of yaoi. That's what I meant there's no romance, meaning that there's no shounen ai elements. You're trying awfully hard to let us know that there's no bl. Sorry buddy, but there might as well be :') |
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Nov 20, 2018 11:38 PM
#17
Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: I'm not finished it yet, but so far it's been quite decent. The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I'm a big Xianxia and Wuxia novel reader, if this were a novel I wouldn't give this series a second glance, the plot itself is just ehh, there's just so much superior competition. I would say, based on what I've read thus far, that this anime is enjoyable for it's technical aspects (animation, sound) rather than its plot and characters. The novel is far better than the donghua, the donghua is still good but it left lots of details and explanations from the novel, and there are quite some changes that were done in the donghua too. Also where is "overemphasis bl" came from? the donghua has absolutely zero BL moments, there's no romance, even in the novel it isn't the whole focus, it takes 5% of the story only, and it progress extremely slowly, it's more like an innocent BL, it's not forced or rushed. The donghua doesn't even show a trace of BL between the MC and the ML, since in China they prohibit from showing BL on TV, due to the Chinese government which is very strict on that stuff. And don't mind if I ask what is "sol"? I mean, i'm only 4 episodes in and there's already quite a bit of hinting towards this, not to mention the synopsis. From the mutual flirtation along the way, Wei Wuxian slowly realizes that Lan Wangji, a seemingly haughty and indifferent poker-face, holds more feelings for Wei Wuxian than he is letting on. When I said bl I didn't mean the guys are literally fucking, more so that they're flirting and such. Sol is slice of life, something that I believe, and have seen, too much of ruin a wuxia/xianxia. That's not to say it's unneeded in the genres, because it clearly is, but I've just noticed at least so far a bit of an emphasis on it, which is odd given the plot. Don't judge based of the synopsis because let me tell you it isn't what is going to be presented in the donghua right away, the situation in the donghua is different from that of the novel. The production team of the donghua has to tone down even the innocent cute moments between the MC and ML, and make it look like a bromance. This is no typical BL, when everything is right in your face, and I get what you mean by BL, I didn't assume that you're meaning by "sexual content", even flirting there's none, it's more like the MC teasing to trigger a certain someone (even in the novel it's like that, so basically the BL in the novel is extremely slow), but that's the MC's nature with serious people, and he likes to mess around and joke around. There's no BL, specifically this is not even considered a shounen ai, and shounen ai is the innocent/pure love version of yaoi. That's what I meant there's no romance, meaning that there's no shounen ai elements. You're trying awfully hard to let us know that there's no bl. Sorry buddy, but there might as well be :') Sigh, the novel is BL but the donghua isn't, it's not my opinion, it's a fact. You can ask anyone who watched this, due to Chinese censorship there's no romance between the MC and ML shown, not even a kiss to consider it a bit shounen ai. Watch the whole thing and you'll see that this is no BL. |
Nov 20, 2018 11:43 PM
#18
Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: I'm not finished it yet, but so far it's been quite decent. The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I'm a big Xianxia and Wuxia novel reader, if this were a novel I wouldn't give this series a second glance, the plot itself is just ehh, there's just so much superior competition. I would say, based on what I've read thus far, that this anime is enjoyable for it's technical aspects (animation, sound) rather than its plot and characters. The novel is far better than the donghua, the donghua is still good but it left lots of details and explanations from the novel, and there are quite some changes that were done in the donghua too. Also where is "overemphasis bl" came from? the donghua has absolutely zero BL moments, there's no romance, even in the novel it isn't the whole focus, it takes 5% of the story only, and it progress extremely slowly, it's more like an innocent BL, it's not forced or rushed. The donghua doesn't even show a trace of BL between the MC and the ML, since in China they prohibit from showing BL on TV, due to the Chinese government which is very strict on that stuff. And don't mind if I ask what is "sol"? I mean, i'm only 4 episodes in and there's already quite a bit of hinting towards this, not to mention the synopsis. From the mutual flirtation along the way, Wei Wuxian slowly realizes that Lan Wangji, a seemingly haughty and indifferent poker-face, holds more feelings for Wei Wuxian than he is letting on. When I said bl I didn't mean the guys are literally fucking, more so that they're flirting and such. Sol is slice of life, something that I believe, and have seen, too much of ruin a wuxia/xianxia. That's not to say it's unneeded in the genres, because it clearly is, but I've just noticed at least so far a bit of an emphasis on it, which is odd given the plot. Don't judge based of the synopsis because let me tell you it isn't what is going to be presented in the donghua right away, the situation in the donghua is different from that of the novel. The production team of the donghua has to tone down even the innocent cute moments between the MC and ML, and make it look like a bromance. This is no typical BL, when everything is right in your face, and I get what you mean by BL, I didn't assume that you're meaning by "sexual content", even flirting there's none, it's more like the MC teasing to trigger a certain someone (even in the novel it's like that, so basically the BL in the novel is extremely slow), but that's the MC's nature with serious people, and he likes to mess around and joke around. There's no BL, specifically this is not even considered a shounen ai, and shounen ai is the innocent/pure love version of yaoi. That's what I meant there's no romance, meaning that there's no shounen ai elements. You're trying awfully hard to let us know that there's no bl. Sorry buddy, but there might as well be :') Sigh, the novel is BL but the donghua isn't, it's not my opinion, it's a fact. You can ask anyone who watched this, due to Chinese censorship there's no romance between the MC and ML shown, not even a kiss to consider it a bit shounen ai. Watch the whole thing and you'll see that this is no BL. Again, sorry bud, but there doesn't need to be scenes with overt bl for something to be considered bl, or at least have bl elements :p |
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Nov 20, 2018 11:51 PM
#19
Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: I'm not finished it yet, but so far it's been quite decent. The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I'm a big Xianxia and Wuxia novel reader, if this were a novel I wouldn't give this series a second glance, the plot itself is just ehh, there's just so much superior competition. I would say, based on what I've read thus far, that this anime is enjoyable for it's technical aspects (animation, sound) rather than its plot and characters. The novel is far better than the donghua, the donghua is still good but it left lots of details and explanations from the novel, and there are quite some changes that were done in the donghua too. Also where is "overemphasis bl" came from? the donghua has absolutely zero BL moments, there's no romance, even in the novel it isn't the whole focus, it takes 5% of the story only, and it progress extremely slowly, it's more like an innocent BL, it's not forced or rushed. The donghua doesn't even show a trace of BL between the MC and the ML, since in China they prohibit from showing BL on TV, due to the Chinese government which is very strict on that stuff. And don't mind if I ask what is "sol"? I mean, i'm only 4 episodes in and there's already quite a bit of hinting towards this, not to mention the synopsis. From the mutual flirtation along the way, Wei Wuxian slowly realizes that Lan Wangji, a seemingly haughty and indifferent poker-face, holds more feelings for Wei Wuxian than he is letting on. When I said bl I didn't mean the guys are literally fucking, more so that they're flirting and such. Sol is slice of life, something that I believe, and have seen, too much of ruin a wuxia/xianxia. That's not to say it's unneeded in the genres, because it clearly is, but I've just noticed at least so far a bit of an emphasis on it, which is odd given the plot. Don't judge based of the synopsis because let me tell you it isn't what is going to be presented in the donghua right away, the situation in the donghua is different from that of the novel. The production team of the donghua has to tone down even the innocent cute moments between the MC and ML, and make it look like a bromance. This is no typical BL, when everything is right in your face, and I get what you mean by BL, I didn't assume that you're meaning by "sexual content", even flirting there's none, it's more like the MC teasing to trigger a certain someone (even in the novel it's like that, so basically the BL in the novel is extremely slow), but that's the MC's nature with serious people, and he likes to mess around and joke around. There's no BL, specifically this is not even considered a shounen ai, and shounen ai is the innocent/pure love version of yaoi. That's what I meant there's no romance, meaning that there's no shounen ai elements. You're trying awfully hard to let us know that there's no bl. Sorry buddy, but there might as well be :') Sigh, the novel is BL but the donghua isn't, it's not my opinion, it's a fact. You can ask anyone who watched this, due to Chinese censorship there's no romance between the MC and ML shown, not even a kiss to consider it a bit shounen ai. Watch the whole thing and you'll see that this is no BL. Again, sorry bud, but there doesn't need to be scenes with overt bl for something to be considered bl, or at least have bl elements :p i like how this is a discussion of something that shouldn't be nice, infinite IQ right there! |
Nov 20, 2018 11:52 PM
#20
| probably the best donghua not that there's much competition if you're comparing it to Chinese SAO I can guess you are talking about King's Avatar right? then this one does a better job at connecting all events the reviews here are bad though because they all sound like someone's blog posts |
Nov 20, 2018 11:52 PM
#21
Phantomnocomics said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: I'm not finished it yet, but so far it's been quite decent. The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I'm a big Xianxia and Wuxia novel reader, if this were a novel I wouldn't give this series a second glance, the plot itself is just ehh, there's just so much superior competition. I would say, based on what I've read thus far, that this anime is enjoyable for it's technical aspects (animation, sound) rather than its plot and characters. The novel is far better than the donghua, the donghua is still good but it left lots of details and explanations from the novel, and there are quite some changes that were done in the donghua too. Also where is "overemphasis bl" came from? the donghua has absolutely zero BL moments, there's no romance, even in the novel it isn't the whole focus, it takes 5% of the story only, and it progress extremely slowly, it's more like an innocent BL, it's not forced or rushed. The donghua doesn't even show a trace of BL between the MC and the ML, since in China they prohibit from showing BL on TV, due to the Chinese government which is very strict on that stuff. And don't mind if I ask what is "sol"? I mean, i'm only 4 episodes in and there's already quite a bit of hinting towards this, not to mention the synopsis. From the mutual flirtation along the way, Wei Wuxian slowly realizes that Lan Wangji, a seemingly haughty and indifferent poker-face, holds more feelings for Wei Wuxian than he is letting on. When I said bl I didn't mean the guys are literally fucking, more so that they're flirting and such. Sol is slice of life, something that I believe, and have seen, too much of ruin a wuxia/xianxia. That's not to say it's unneeded in the genres, because it clearly is, but I've just noticed at least so far a bit of an emphasis on it, which is odd given the plot. Don't judge based of the synopsis because let me tell you it isn't what is going to be presented in the donghua right away, the situation in the donghua is different from that of the novel. The production team of the donghua has to tone down even the innocent cute moments between the MC and ML, and make it look like a bromance. This is no typical BL, when everything is right in your face, and I get what you mean by BL, I didn't assume that you're meaning by "sexual content", even flirting there's none, it's more like the MC teasing to trigger a certain someone (even in the novel it's like that, so basically the BL in the novel is extremely slow), but that's the MC's nature with serious people, and he likes to mess around and joke around. There's no BL, specifically this is not even considered a shounen ai, and shounen ai is the innocent/pure love version of yaoi. That's what I meant there's no romance, meaning that there's no shounen ai elements. You're trying awfully hard to let us know that there's no bl. Sorry buddy, but there might as well be :') Sigh, the novel is BL but the donghua isn't, it's not my opinion, it's a fact. You can ask anyone who watched this, due to Chinese censorship there's no romance between the MC and ML shown, not even a kiss to consider it a bit shounen ai. Watch the whole thing and you'll see that this is no BL. Again, sorry bud, but there doesn't need to be scenes with overt bl for something to be considered bl, or at least have bl elements :p i like how this is a discussion of something that shouldn't be nice, infinite IQ right there! The thing is with discussion, sometimes it doesn't stay on topic, and that's part of the fun! |
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Nov 21, 2018 12:08 AM
#22
Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: I'm not finished it yet, but so far it's been quite decent. The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I'm a big Xianxia and Wuxia novel reader, if this were a novel I wouldn't give this series a second glance, the plot itself is just ehh, there's just so much superior competition. I would say, based on what I've read thus far, that this anime is enjoyable for it's technical aspects (animation, sound) rather than its plot and characters. The novel is far better than the donghua, the donghua is still good but it left lots of details and explanations from the novel, and there are quite some changes that were done in the donghua too. Also where is "overemphasis bl" came from? the donghua has absolutely zero BL moments, there's no romance, even in the novel it isn't the whole focus, it takes 5% of the story only, and it progress extremely slowly, it's more like an innocent BL, it's not forced or rushed. The donghua doesn't even show a trace of BL between the MC and the ML, since in China they prohibit from showing BL on TV, due to the Chinese government which is very strict on that stuff. And don't mind if I ask what is "sol"? I mean, i'm only 4 episodes in and there's already quite a bit of hinting towards this, not to mention the synopsis. From the mutual flirtation along the way, Wei Wuxian slowly realizes that Lan Wangji, a seemingly haughty and indifferent poker-face, holds more feelings for Wei Wuxian than he is letting on. When I said bl I didn't mean the guys are literally fucking, more so that they're flirting and such. Sol is slice of life, something that I believe, and have seen, too much of ruin a wuxia/xianxia. That's not to say it's unneeded in the genres, because it clearly is, but I've just noticed at least so far a bit of an emphasis on it, which is odd given the plot. Don't judge based of the synopsis because let me tell you it isn't what is going to be presented in the donghua right away, the situation in the donghua is different from that of the novel. The production team of the donghua has to tone down even the innocent cute moments between the MC and ML, and make it look like a bromance. This is no typical BL, when everything is right in your face, and I get what you mean by BL, I didn't assume that you're meaning by "sexual content", even flirting there's none, it's more like the MC teasing to trigger a certain someone (even in the novel it's like that, so basically the BL in the novel is extremely slow), but that's the MC's nature with serious people, and he likes to mess around and joke around. There's no BL, specifically this is not even considered a shounen ai, and shounen ai is the innocent/pure love version of yaoi. That's what I meant there's no romance, meaning that there's no shounen ai elements. You're trying awfully hard to let us know that there's no bl. Sorry buddy, but there might as well be :') Sigh, the novel is BL but the donghua isn't, it's not my opinion, it's a fact. You can ask anyone who watched this, due to Chinese censorship there's no romance between the MC and ML shown, not even a kiss to consider it a bit shounen ai. Watch the whole thing and you'll see that this is no BL. Again, sorry bud, but there doesn't need to be scenes with overt bl for something to be considered bl, or at least have bl elements :p I consider it BL if there are lovey-dovey moments, holding hands, flirting mutually, or at most a kiss. However I won't ignore Lan WangJi's feelings for the MC (if you consider that BL that's up to you), it's unrequited and it remains like that for so long due to the MC's death (the present time is when the MC develops feelings in the novel, but it's very slow) |
Nightmare_GrimmNov 21, 2018 12:23 AM
Nov 21, 2018 12:31 AM
#23
Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: I'm not finished it yet, but so far it's been quite decent. The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I'm a big Xianxia and Wuxia novel reader, if this were a novel I wouldn't give this series a second glance, the plot itself is just ehh, there's just so much superior competition. I would say, based on what I've read thus far, that this anime is enjoyable for it's technical aspects (animation, sound) rather than its plot and characters. The novel is far better than the donghua, the donghua is still good but it left lots of details and explanations from the novel, and there are quite some changes that were done in the donghua too. Also where is "overemphasis bl" came from? the donghua has absolutely zero BL moments, there's no romance, even in the novel it isn't the whole focus, it takes 5% of the story only, and it progress extremely slowly, it's more like an innocent BL, it's not forced or rushed. The donghua doesn't even show a trace of BL between the MC and the ML, since in China they prohibit from showing BL on TV, due to the Chinese government which is very strict on that stuff. And don't mind if I ask what is "sol"? I mean, i'm only 4 episodes in and there's already quite a bit of hinting towards this, not to mention the synopsis. From the mutual flirtation along the way, Wei Wuxian slowly realizes that Lan Wangji, a seemingly haughty and indifferent poker-face, holds more feelings for Wei Wuxian than he is letting on. When I said bl I didn't mean the guys are literally fucking, more so that they're flirting and such. Sol is slice of life, something that I believe, and have seen, too much of ruin a wuxia/xianxia. That's not to say it's unneeded in the genres, because it clearly is, but I've just noticed at least so far a bit of an emphasis on it, which is odd given the plot. Don't judge based of the synopsis because let me tell you it isn't what is going to be presented in the donghua right away, the situation in the donghua is different from that of the novel. The production team of the donghua has to tone down even the innocent cute moments between the MC and ML, and make it look like a bromance. This is no typical BL, when everything is right in your face, and I get what you mean by BL, I didn't assume that you're meaning by "sexual content", even flirting there's none, it's more like the MC teasing to trigger a certain someone (even in the novel it's like that, so basically the BL in the novel is extremely slow), but that's the MC's nature with serious people, and he likes to mess around and joke around. There's no BL, specifically this is not even considered a shounen ai, and shounen ai is the innocent/pure love version of yaoi. That's what I meant there's no romance, meaning that there's no shounen ai elements. You're trying awfully hard to let us know that there's no bl. Sorry buddy, but there might as well be :') Sigh, the novel is BL but the donghua isn't, it's not my opinion, it's a fact. You can ask anyone who watched this, due to Chinese censorship there's no romance between the MC and ML shown, not even a kiss to consider it a bit shounen ai. Watch the whole thing and you'll see that this is no BL. Again, sorry bud, but there doesn't need to be scenes with overt bl for something to be considered bl, or at least have bl elements :p I consider it BL if there are lovey-dovey moments, holding hands, flirting mutually, or at most a kiss. However I won't ignore Lan WangJi's feelings for the MC (if you consider that BL that's up to you), it's unrequited and it remains like that for so long due to the MC's death (the present time is when the MC develops feelings in the novel, but it's very slow) Lol. As I said, there doesn't need to be overtly bl moments (kissing etc) for something to be considered bl. I'm not the first one to consider this a bl anime, even if the bl elements are for the themes. |
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Nov 21, 2018 12:45 AM
#24
Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: Xiao_XingChen said: Fuchsia said: I'm not finished it yet, but so far it's been quite decent. The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I'm a big Xianxia and Wuxia novel reader, if this were a novel I wouldn't give this series a second glance, the plot itself is just ehh, there's just so much superior competition. I would say, based on what I've read thus far, that this anime is enjoyable for it's technical aspects (animation, sound) rather than its plot and characters. The novel is far better than the donghua, the donghua is still good but it left lots of details and explanations from the novel, and there are quite some changes that were done in the donghua too. Also where is "overemphasis bl" came from? the donghua has absolutely zero BL moments, there's no romance, even in the novel it isn't the whole focus, it takes 5% of the story only, and it progress extremely slowly, it's more like an innocent BL, it's not forced or rushed. The donghua doesn't even show a trace of BL between the MC and the ML, since in China they prohibit from showing BL on TV, due to the Chinese government which is very strict on that stuff. And don't mind if I ask what is "sol"? I mean, i'm only 4 episodes in and there's already quite a bit of hinting towards this, not to mention the synopsis. From the mutual flirtation along the way, Wei Wuxian slowly realizes that Lan Wangji, a seemingly haughty and indifferent poker-face, holds more feelings for Wei Wuxian than he is letting on. When I said bl I didn't mean the guys are literally fucking, more so that they're flirting and such. Sol is slice of life, something that I believe, and have seen, too much of ruin a wuxia/xianxia. That's not to say it's unneeded in the genres, because it clearly is, but I've just noticed at least so far a bit of an emphasis on it, which is odd given the plot. Don't judge based of the synopsis because let me tell you it isn't what is going to be presented in the donghua right away, the situation in the donghua is different from that of the novel. The production team of the donghua has to tone down even the innocent cute moments between the MC and ML, and make it look like a bromance. This is no typical BL, when everything is right in your face, and I get what you mean by BL, I didn't assume that you're meaning by "sexual content", even flirting there's none, it's more like the MC teasing to trigger a certain someone (even in the novel it's like that, so basically the BL in the novel is extremely slow), but that's the MC's nature with serious people, and he likes to mess around and joke around. There's no BL, specifically this is not even considered a shounen ai, and shounen ai is the innocent/pure love version of yaoi. That's what I meant there's no romance, meaning that there's no shounen ai elements. You're trying awfully hard to let us know that there's no bl. Sorry buddy, but there might as well be :') Sigh, the novel is BL but the donghua isn't, it's not my opinion, it's a fact. You can ask anyone who watched this, due to Chinese censorship there's no romance between the MC and ML shown, not even a kiss to consider it a bit shounen ai. Watch the whole thing and you'll see that this is no BL. Again, sorry bud, but there doesn't need to be scenes with overt bl for something to be considered bl, or at least have bl elements :p I consider it BL if there are lovey-dovey moments, holding hands, flirting mutually, or at most a kiss. However I won't ignore Lan WangJi's feelings for the MC (if you consider that BL that's up to you), it's unrequited and it remains like that for so long due to the MC's death (the present time is when the MC develops feelings in the novel, but it's very slow) Lol. As I said, there doesn't need to be overtly bl moments (kissing etc) for something to be considered bl. I'm not the first one to consider this a bl anime, even if the bl elements are for the themes. I get it, if you want to consider it BL, it's your choice, to each their own I guess. The thing is this isn't even tagged shounen ai in China, if there is romance shown tencent will have to take down the episodes. They're really very picky of what is shown and what shouldn't, this donghua in China was taken down about 20 days ago or so not sure exactly(they re-uploaded the episodes few days ago on their official website ) , due to gore and violence, so they had to redraw some scenes that contains gore in the last episodes to tone it down. So imagine what will happen if they include the same sex romance, it's just an extra info to explain about China being strict about it, but yet I see what you're getting at. I can see subtle hints of feelings (one-sided for now), at best I see it as a very subtle BL. |
Nightmare_GrimmNov 21, 2018 1:13 AM
Nov 21, 2018 12:56 PM
#25
Fuchsia said: The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I loved the SoL bits! I know everybody just wants to watch fights all the time, but those silly and peaceful moments were really charming. Even if you dislike them, they are still needed in the series for a balanced composition (considering how things escalate), please don't call them a waste of time! |
Nov 21, 2018 1:19 PM
#26
chi4ko said: Fuchsia said: The only thing I specifically dislike is the overemphasis on bl and sol elements, this is a complete waste of the wuxia genre. I loved the SoL bits! I know everybody just wants to watch fights all the time, but those silly and peaceful moments were really charming. Even if you dislike them, they are still needed in the series for a balanced composition (considering how things escalate), please don't call them a waste of time! I don't dislike SOL, but as a wuxia and xianxia fan, genres which this series align with, I would like more of the elements that traditionally make up the genre e.g dao, set cultivation levels, realms, exploration, extended lifespans etc. Granted, i'm not finished, but I haven't seen much of this so far, in favor of silly SOL moments. |
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Nov 21, 2018 1:47 PM
#27
Xiao_XingChen said: how bad does your anime need to be that it needs 8 episodes to get good. Botan-Chan45 said: 0nnen said: It’s not perfect but definitely deserves more than 3/10. What’s your problem dude? The conflicts starts happening in episode 8, the first 7 episodes are "the calm before the storm", it gets tense and eventually very tragic |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
Nov 21, 2018 1:53 PM
#28
Botan-Chan45 said: Xiao_XingChen said: how bad does your anime need to be that it needs 8 episodes to get good. Botan-Chan45 said: 0nnen said: it's so boring i can barely watch 7 episodes without dreading a long 25+ min episode of nothing happening. It's complete garbage and i can barely understand the 8.68 score (also the several gintama and bnha entries). It’s not perfect but definitely deserves more than 3/10. What’s your problem dude? The conflicts starts happening in episode 8, the first 7 episodes are "the calm before the storm", it gets tense and eventually very tragic It does not need 8 episode to be good, it is just not your style. |
Nov 21, 2018 2:01 PM
#29
Botan-Chan45 said: BackstageMage said: Type right next time you dolt, and no its not mature understanding like Ashita no Joe or Hajime no Ippo.The show doesn't treat its audience like idiots, it doesn't spell anything out for us which makes characters and their motivations more realistic. Why did you take it personally? I'm not calling you an idiot, I'm just saying the anime expects us to keep up with it, so I don't understand why you're getting so defensive over a single point. Also, you're comparing sports anime to this, the genre is way too different for you to even make that connection. Hell, I didn't even call MoDao mature, all I'm saying is that the characters motivations are justified, so stop twisting my words :/ |
Nov 21, 2018 5:53 PM
#30
Botan-Chan45 said: Xiao_XingChen said: how bad does your anime need to be that it needs 8 episodes to get good. Botan-Chan45 said: 0nnen said: it's so boring i can barely watch 7 episodes without dreading a long 25+ min episode of nothing happening. It's complete garbage and i can barely understand the 8.68 score (also the several gintama and bnha entries). It’s not perfect but definitely deserves more than 3/10. What’s your problem dude? The conflicts starts happening in episode 8, the first 7 episodes are "the calm before the storm", it gets tense and eventually very tragic Too bad your understanding of this donghua is too slow to even understand why it's rated high, such a troll. |
Nov 21, 2018 6:41 PM
#31
| Your hating comments on the donghua and your only reasons are solely "nothing happening", "complete garbage", or "how bad does your anime", such common words used by trolls who aren't capable of giving even a proper explanation, so mindless. You keep using "your blah blah", and on other post your reply "ur chinese propoganda of wxiching" , "Try another time china man" (your assumption of me being "china man" is the epitome of your ignorance, like you got a thing against Chinese people? I'm smelling a racist). Also we're talking about the donghua here not me, and the only thing you're doing here is spewing nonsense everywhere like always, as expected from a low-leveled troll, who lack severely in common sense, can't even give one logical argument, and only knows how to use common words used by trolls and twist words of others, and when someone comment on this donghua you go subjective, ignore their logical point and call them idiot, when you're here the only ignorant one who only knows to call others idiots because it's much easier for you than give a constructive criticism. |
Nightmare_GrimmNov 21, 2018 6:54 PM
Nov 21, 2018 6:55 PM
#32
Xiao_XingChen said: Why are you stalking me? Also if this is the quality of dinhoe then i shouldnt watch anymore should I? Completely boring and tedious to watch, something that even a lowly series like Mars Destruction can beat? Also I harpoon any series that has unjustified scores, not just donhua shit.Your hating comments on the donghua and your only reasons are solely "nothing happening", "complete garbage", or "how bad does your anime", such common words used by trolls who aren't capable of giving even a proper explanation, so mindless. You keep using "your blah blah", and on other post your reply "ur chinese propoganda of wxiching" , "Try another time china man" (your assumption of me being "china man" is the epitome of your ignorance, like you got a thing against Chinese people? I'm smelling a racist). Also we're talking about the donghua here not me, and the only thing you're doing here is spewing nonsense everywhere like always, as expected from a low-leveled troll, who lack severely in common sense, can't even give one logical argument, and only knows how to use common words used by trolls and twist words of others, and when someone comment on this donghua you go subjective, ignore their logical point and call them idiot, when you're here the only ignorant one who only knows to call others idiost because it's much easier for you than give a constructive criticism. |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
Nov 21, 2018 7:02 PM
#33
Botan-Chan45 said: Xiao_XingChen said: Why are you stalking me? Also if this is the quality of dinhoe then i shouldnt watch anymore should I? Completely boring and tedious to watch, something that even a lowly series like Mars Destruction can beat? Also I harpoon any series that has unjustified scores, not just donhua shit.Your hating comments on the donghua and your only reasons are solely "nothing happening", "complete garbage", or "how bad does your anime", such common words used by trolls who aren't capable of giving even a proper explanation, so mindless. You keep using "your blah blah", and on other post your reply "ur chinese propoganda of wxiching" , "Try another time china man" (your assumption of me being "china man" is the epitome of your ignorance, like you got a thing against Chinese people? I'm smelling a racist). Also we're talking about the donghua here not me, and the only thing you're doing here is spewing nonsense everywhere like always, as expected from a low-leveled troll, who lack severely in common sense, can't even give one logical argument, and only knows how to use common words used by trolls and twist words of others, and when someone comment on this donghua you go subjective, ignore their logical point and call them idiot, when you're here the only ignorant one who only knows to call others idiost because it's much easier for you than give a constructive criticism. So if I exposed you being an obvious troll then that's stalking? you're spewing nonsense over and over lmao, and why would I stoop so low as to stalk an ignorant troll? I wouldn't associate myself with such an idiot like you. And you're the one who stalked my profile as to write a pathetic comment, got deleted. And this is my favorite donghua so of course I would comment a lot here, got problem? You really prove nothing but being a waste of space troll. |
Nov 21, 2018 7:06 PM
#34
Botan-Chan45 said: Xiao_XingChen said: how bad does your anime need to be that it needs 8 episodes to get good. Botan-Chan45 said: 0nnen said: it's so boring i can barely watch 7 episodes without dreading a long 25+ min episode of nothing happening. It's complete garbage and i can barely understand the 8.68 score (also the several gintama and bnha entries). It’s not perfect but definitely deserves more than 3/10. What’s your problem dude? The conflicts starts happening in episode 8, the first 7 episodes are "the calm before the storm", it gets tense and eventually very tragic gintama in a nutshell right there in a side note, keep in mind there is a difference between the source material and the adaptation because of regional/cultural restrictions, so there will be some filler-filter for said reason, the other would be that a *bad introduction Start does not translate to a Bad outroduction* and vice versa but some argue that the opposite can ruin a show in a short, if you don't like the the summary of the SM then you will probably not like the adaptation, if you like it, but don't like the changes then you will probably not like the adaptation, and be better off reading the SM, but if you like neither, what are you doing here?!. why waste time when you can watch boku No Pico spiritual successors? |
PhantomnocomicsNov 21, 2018 7:25 PM
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